The new pm sets out bIg reforms to energy, water and the lords, but Is the lesson Of hIs predecessors that he needs more VIsIon And Hope and less paIn . And as thIs generatIon Of students prepare to head Off to unIversIty, wIll some fInd theIr college has gone bust before they even get there . Good evenIng. Welcome to newsnIght InsIght, IntervIews and more Into the storIes Of the day. Later, the crIsIs In our unIversItIes, wIth calls for a massIve rIse In TuItIon Fees as students head back to campus. But before that, a scholarly panel Of PrIme MInIsterIal BIographer SIr Anthony seldon, former tory Mp And Mep VIcky Ford and Baroness Helena Kennedy kc wIll consIder where we are wIth the new Government And Pm two months on from the electIon, wIth a blIzzard Of legIslatIon but a certaIn lack Of Post LandslIde EuphorIa and promIses Of a couple Of months at least Of paIn. Lets brIng In our own prOfessor Of polItIcs, nIck watt. An Important day for the pm . RemovIng saId, Gb Energy and removIng heredItary peers. There was a general feelIng the PrIme MInIster had a very, very quIck start In the fIrst month, and then In august, used hIs experIence to very good effect as the former head Of the cps In response to the rIots, but now, questIon marks about whether Is he hIttIng a bumpy patch . Now, wIllIam hague, who knows all about bumpy patches, and hIs tImes were tImes column thIs week, brought up some InterestIng pollIng, whIch we can look at In a mInute, from the more In common pollIng group, whIch Is that KeIr Starmer s Approval RatIng Is 16 , that KeIr Starmer s Approval RatIng Is I6 , and at the tIme Of the electIon, It was Plus 5 . And If you look at the dIfferent polls from others, Tony BlaIr at the same stage In 1997 was at plus 65, DavId Cameron at the same stage In 2010, plus 31. It Is Important to say, at the tIme Of the general electIon, very dIfferent cIrcumstances. Those two leaders had much hIgher net favourabIlIty ratIngs at the tIme Of the general electIon. That Is pretty excItIng straIghtaway. Two month ago, second bIggest majorIty sInce the second world war, It doesnt really feel lIke that may be rIght now . No, and thIs Is the real challenge, Isnt It . No, and thIs Is the real challenge, Isnt It . I no, and thIs Is the real challenge, Isnt It . I agree wIth nIck, It has been Isnt It . I agree wIth nIck, It has been a Isnt It . I agree wIth nIck, It has been a good start, and now we need to have been a good start, and now we need to have reel been a good start, and now we need to have real leadershIp and a clear sense to have real leadershIp and a clear sense Of to have real leadershIp and a clear sense Of dIrectIon, and all the successful PrIme MInIsters have been ood successful PrIme MInIsters have been good storytellers. They have saId, thIs Is good storytellers. They have saId, thIs Is where we were, thIs Is where we are thIs Is where we were, thIs Is where we are goIng thIs Is where we were, thIs Is where we are goIng to be goIng, and thIs Is how we are goIng to be goIng, and thIs Is how we we are goIng to be goIng, and thIs Is how we wIll get there, and they have Is how we wIll get there, and they have had Is how we wIll get there, and they have had optImIsm In that, and a sense have had optImIsm In that, and a sense that have had optImIsm In that, and a sense that we are all In It together and you sense that we are all In It together and you have got to be on the bus. But were and you have got to be on the bus. But were not quIte gettIng that, and the but were not quIte gettIng that, and the parlIamentary crIsIs next week and the parlIamentary crIsIs next week Is and the parlIamentary crIsIs next week Is goIng to be IllustratIve that, week Is goIng to be IllustratIve that, and week Is goIng to be IllustratIve that, and has he pIcked the rIght battleground . Successful Leaders Battleground . Successful leaders pIck the battleground . Successful leaders pIck the rIght battleground. But he Is not pIck the rIght battleground. But he Is not charIsmatIc lIke harold wIlson. Is not charIsmatIc lIke harold wIlson, no lIke Tony BlaIr. Nor lIke wIlson, no lIke Tony BlaIr. Nor tIke tony wIlson, no lIke Tony BlaIr. Nor lIke Tony BlaIr. He Is more lIke labours lIke Tony BlaIr. He Is more lIke labours most successful PrIme MInIster labours most successful PrIme MInIster clement attlee, studIous. He would mInIster clement attlee, studIous. He would probably settle for that but we wIll come In to hIstorIcal comparIsons In a moment. Clement attlee dId not start that way eIther, by the way the way eIther, by the way the honeymoon appears to be over before It has even started, helena . I dont thInk we were ever talkIng about honeymoons, gIven the state Of the natIon at the poInt where the electIon took place, and people were generally feelIng that they had had enough, and you have got to remember that almost every sIngle InstItutIon In thIs country Is on Its knees, from the nhs to schools to unIversItIes to local authorItIes to the justIce system, whIch unIversItIes to local authorItIes to thejustIce system, whIch I can speak about, but everythIng Is actually groanIng wIth the paIn Of what It has gone through over recent years, and every one Of them Is In fInancIal crIsIs and every one Of them Is hungry for resource, and there Is no resource, so he has InherIted somethIng pretty bloody, and I thInk he knows that. I thInk a lot Of people felt they wanted honesty and lets see whether honesty and lets see whether honesty Is what they really wanted, because he Is a man Of IntegrIty. I mean, I know hIm well and because he Is a man Of IntegrIty. I mean, I know hIm welland I because he Is a man Of IntegrIty. I mean, I know hIm well and I know, because he Is a man Of IntegrIty. I mean, I know hIm welland I know, Of course, he Is talkIng It straIght In sayIng thIs Is goIng to be paInful and warnIng Of a body about the budget, but I thInk you are talkIng about decency, and he Is wantIng to wIn Back Trust In the whole busIness Of governance wIll stop warnIng everybody about the budget. So I do thInk It wIll be hard, but makIng those choIces about what you run wIth wIll be a dIffIcult busIness. But we are talkIng about someone who wants to show he Is tellIng the truth about the sItuatIon. VIcky, If there Is a lack Of honeymoon, that Is maybe because Of the rIots, an extraordInary set Of cIrcumstances, and the InherItance from your party . Yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of people. Yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of pe0ple. And yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of people, and thats yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of people, and thats why yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of people, and thats why we yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of people, and thats why we lost. Yes, clearly, we had lost Trust Of. People, and thats why we lost the electIon. People, and thats why we lost the electIon. And people, and thats why we lost the electIon, and that people, and thats why we lost the electIon, and that trust people, and thats why we lost the electIon, and that trust Is people, and thats why we lost the electIon, and that trust Is really. ElectIon, and that trust Is really Important. ElectIon, and that trust Is really Important. 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Before you get your response In, I thInk nIck has got the latest on thIs ahead Of some votes we wIll get next week . Yes, we may get two votes next week and the Chancellors DecIsIon to wIthdraw the WInter Fuel Allowance for pensIoners not In receIpt Of pensIon credIt, whIch basIcally means, If you have an Income over 12,600 and you are a pensIoner, you wIll not get the WInter Fuel Allowance. It looks lIke we mIght have a rebellIon. So what we have . NeIl duncanjordan, brand new labour mp, has put down an early Day MotIon callIng for thIs to be postponed, whIch has attracted ten Labour Mps are sIgnIng It, plus another fIve Independent Labour Mps, the ones who lost the whIp. Last week, we had rachel maskell, a potentIal Labour Rebel and newsnIght. Rachel maskell, a potentIal Labour Rebeland newsnIght. In rachel maskell, a potentIal Labour Rebel and newsnIght. In the last three mInutes, she has had a pIece up three mInutes, she has had a pIece up on the front Of the daIly telegraph, sayIng that she fears If we wIthdraw WInter Fuel Payment for those In poverty, It wIll lead to excess deaths, and she has talked about how at low temperatures for elderly people, you have a danger In the Increase Of strokes, Heart Attacks and pneumonIa. But I wonder whether the danger to sIr KeIr Starmer Is not so much a rebellIon but a large number Of loyal Labour Mps really unhappy about thIs and havIng to vote for It. It was InterestIng, when RIshI Sunak saId the PoInt VIcky has just been sayIng at PrIme MInIsters questIons, the Labour Benches were pretty quIet, and I spoke to one former Labour Frontbencher who Is a complete loyalIst, and thIs person told me that RIshI Sunak s case was unanswerable. I was speakIng to a former treasury mInIster, and they are sayIng thIs whole thIng has been completely Inept. They are sayIng wIthdrawIng WInter Fuel Allowance Is always on the treasury hIt lIst Of what you should get rId Of, and the Chancellors Person saId had caved. But from your studIes Of PrIme MInIsterIal. TheIr chancellor Is could abIlIty, there Is no Way Rachel reeves can delay thIs, havIng made such a bIg deal about thIs beIng the toughest decIsIon In years . Yes, but a U Turn years . Yes, buta U Turn mIght years . Yes, but a U Turn mIght be InevItable yes, but a U Turn mIght be InevItable at some poInt, because you could InevItable at some poInt, because you could wIn a pyrrhIc vIctory, and then you could wIn a pyrrhIc vIctory, and then It you could wIn a pyrrhIc vIctory, and then It Is you could wIn a pyrrhIc vIctory, and then It Is goIng to make keepIng the party together even harder. So It looks party together even harder. So It looks lIke party together even harder. So It looks lIke thIs Is probably a mIstake. Looks lIke thIs Is probably a mIstake, an act Of bravado. I agree wIth nIck mIstake, an act Of bravado. I agree wIth nIck. ThIs Is absolutely what treasury wIth nIck. ThIs Is absolutely what Treasury OffIcIals wIll be sayIng. You have Treasury OffIcIals wIll be sayIng. You have to show that you mean It. The fIgures you have to show that you mean It. The fIgures are really bad. But It goes the fIgures are really bad. But It does much the fIgures are really bad. But It goes much bIgger than that. We have had a goes much bIgger than that. We have had a crIsIs goes much bIgger than that. We have had a crIsIs In leadershIp. I agree wIth vIcky had a crIsIs In leadershIp. I agree wIth vIcky that It wasnt a trustful. WIth vIcky that It wasnt a trustful, happy perIod Of conservatIve government. Indeed, It was, conservatIve government. Indeed, It was. I conservatIve government. Indeed, It was. I have conservatIve government. Indeed, It was, I have argued In a book, the worst was, I have argued In a book, the worst perIod was, I have argued In a book, the worst perIod Of conservatIve government sInce the party was founded government sInce the party was founded. As helena saId, where do you look founded. As helena saId, where do you look to founded. As helena saId, where do you look to for success but In educatIon. You look to for success but In educatIon, a bIt here and there. But It educatIon, a bIt here and there. But It Is educatIon, a bIt here and there. But It Is bIgger than the PrIme MInIsters but It Is bIgger than the PrIme MInIsters. The global fInancIal crIsIs. MInIsters. The global fInancIal crIsIs, brexIt, coupled wIth covId, coupled crIsIs, brexIt, coupled wIth covId, coupled wIth the ukraIne InvasIon. The Inte