The mirror, and former republican president ial candidatejoe republican president ial candidate joe walsh. Perfect panel for what weve got in store for you. First, the latest headlines. Four people have been killed and nine others injured in a shooting at a High School in georgia, just 50 miles north east of atlanta. Police have said a suspect is in custody. President biden called the shooting another horrific reminder of how Gun Violence continues to tear communities apart. In a statement, he said ending the Gun Violence epidemic was personal to him. Israels prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has addressed foreign Media Injerusalem he said israel will not withdraw its troops from the Border Area between southern Gaza And Egypt until there is a guarantee that it can never be used as lifeline for hamas. Russia has mounted another attack on ukraine, killing seven and injuring a7, in the western city of lviv. The Citys Mayor confirmed three children were among the victims. He said over 50 civillian buildings were damaged, including medical and educational facilities. Hundreds more migrants have been trying to cross the channel from france today, despite the deaths of 12 People Yesterday when their dinghy capsized. Officials in northern france say some of these boats are carrying more than 50 people. Uk ministers have raised fears about people smugglers cramming more and more migrants onto increasingly poor boats to risk the crossing. Some live pictures we are looking at in georgia, we just been telling you the headlines they are about the four people killed in a shooting there this morning. President biden has just spoken about it in the last hour. Those microphones have been set up for a Press Conference that we are expecting from local police in the next few minutes, we will take you to that in just as soon as it happens. What are we supposed to make of the Grenfell Tower Inquiry . It has taken six years to get to this point. The 1,700 Page Report that was published today by the chair of the inquiry, Sir Martin Moore bick, is a catalague of systemic failure at every level. We have known for some time that the cause of the fire was the Flammable Cladding on the outside of the building. But the Question Sir Martin and his colleagues were seeking to answer is why, and why for so long, the warnings about this cladding were ignored . From as early as 1991 to the disaster we witnessed in 2017 so many players, so many oportunities to prevent what happened. Here is Sir Martin outlining just how many organisations and companies bear responsibility for what unfolded. The simple truth is that the deaths that occurred were all avoidable, and those who lived in the tower were badly failed over a number of years, and in a number of different ways by those who were responsible for ensuring the safety of the building and its occupants. They include the government, the tenant management organisation, the royal borough of kensingtOn And chelsea, those who manufactured and supplied to the materials used in the refurbishment, those who certified their suitability for use on high rise buildings, the architect, the principal contractor, and some of its subcontractors in particularly harley Curtain Wall and its successor, harley facades. Some of the consultants, in particular the Fire Engineer Exova warrington fire, the local authorities building control department, and the London Fire brigade. Not all of them bear the same degree of responsibility for the eventual disaster, but as our reports show, all contributed to it in one way or another, in most cases through incompetence, but in some cases through dishonesty and greed. The failings can be traced back over many years, and our efforts to get to the bottom of what went wrong and why account for the length of our report and the time it has taken us to produce it. Successive governments were well aware of the risks. In 1999, the Environment And Transport select committee warned, it should not take a serious fire in which people were killed before steps are taken to minimize the risks posed by some external cladding systems. This afternoon, the prime minister apologised to the families of everyone involved. I want to start with an apology on behalf of the british state to each and every one of you, and indeed to all the families affected by this tragedy. It should never have happened. The country failed to discharge its most fundamental duty to protect you and your loved ones, the people that we are here to serve. And i am deeply sorry. But the families must now wait another year to 18 months before they find out whether any criminal charges will be brought. The Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the met police, stuart cundy, said their investigation is independent of the Public Inquiry. It operates under a different legal framework. Which begs the question, why did they need to wait for the inquiry to finish . Sir michael mansfield, kc represented some of the survivors at the inquiry. Thats exactly what happened in the early inquiries. Zeebrugge, which heralded a free enterprise, roll on, Roll Off there was, in fact, a Public Inquiry which ran alongside public prosecution. But doesnt that stop people speaking freely, because they can say, look, this could be prejudicial to my defence or whatever i say in a Court Case . Well, what happens is they get some sort of undertaking as they all did in this one saying that the evidence that they give cant be used against themselves. But that doesnt preclude evidence from other people being used against them. So the answer is, they may clam up if they want to it doesnt look too good when they do and they refuse to answer questions, for example, or say they cant remember all the time. So the choice becomes theirs. It is the Question Everyone is asking, why did the met weight . Because some people still involved in this are still in place and, arguably, still a threat to the public. It take so long . Threat to the public. It take so [am . � , threat to the public. It take so long . So long . Its different here than it is so long . Its different here than it is in so long . Its different here than it is in the so long . Its different here than it is in the states, so long . Its different here than it is in the states, i i than it is in the states, i dont know quite about your public Inquiry System over there, joe, but here we have something about prejudice in Court Cases, and the idea is that the Publicity And Reporting that will go on around the Public Inquiry would prejudice a jury and what they would decide. So thats why the dose things were always kept separate. And as weve seen, it just doesnt work. All too often we all knew when we saw pictures of that tower going up like a Roman Candle we all knew that there was stuff on the outside of that building that shouldnt have been there, we all knew it wouldve been cut back to be responsible in their be lots of different people and systemic failures that would allow that to all go horribly wrong. Thats exactly whats come out. And if you knew that on day one, theres no reason, seeing as the Police Investigation started on day one, you couldnt have people prosecuted by now. The problem is all too often in this country, we order a Public Inquiry ostensibly to get to the bottom of something but in reality to delayjustice because the public mood changes, people get their lawyers singed place, and it causes things to drag On And on. The people at the centre of it arent something people care about. � , ,. About. Its the systemic failure i about. Its the systemic failure i want about. Its the systemic failure i want to about. Its the systemic failure i want to talk about. Its the systemic failure i want to talk about, we saw in the inquiry on covid, the infected blood scandal, we saw again today public bodies that covered up or ignored the rules and buried mistakes. You worked on the Government Committee for insight and reform. How do you reinvigorate trust in public bodies, especially so after a failure like this one . Like this one . Its difficult, we all believe like this one . Its difficult, we all believe in like this one . Its difficult, we all believe in free we all believe in free enterprise, i do, we all believe enterprise, i do, we all believe in the free market, we wanted believe in the free market, we wanted to believe in the free market, we wanted to work but it Cant Work wanted to work but it Cant Work without regulatiOn And oversight, and it certainly cant oversight, and it certainly Cant Work without accountability. Here in the states, accountability. Here in the states, as im sure over there, there states, as im sure over there, there are states, as im sure over there, there are countless examples where there are countless examples where the government has failed to regulate projects like this, and buildings like this, and then and buildings like this, and then catastrophes happen. It needs then catastrophes happen. It needs to then catastrophes happen. It needs to be constant, and there needs needs to be constant, and there needs to needs to be constant, and there needs to be constant, and there needs to be here in the states, needs to be here in the states, as needs to be here in the states, as im sure over there, government right now, we are going government right now, we are going through a populist moment, government has a bad name moment, government has a bad name irn moment, government has a bad name im a moment, government has a bad name. Im a conservative and i dont name. Im a conservative and i dont believe in an overbearing government, but weve got to et government, but weve got to get back government, but weve got to get back to a place where heapie get back to a place where people believe in Government Regulation to hold accountable when regulation to hold accountable when real mistakes are made. Thats when real mistakes are made. Thats a when real mistakes are made. Thats a really good point, joe, and susie, we have seen that in this country, this disdain for regulation, the bonfire of the Red Tape we talked about post brexit. Maybe now theres more trust in the regulation then in the government itself . I regulation then in the government itself . Regulation then in the covernment itself . ~. , government itself . I think that kind of Conversation Government itself . I think that kind of conversation has government itself . I think that kind of conversation has beenl kind of conversation has been said as a conservative Talking Point in this country, and it isnt, its a populist one. Its not naturally conservative to let there be a free for all for things. To let there be a free for all forthings. Its to let there be a free for all for things. Its really important we try and get this right because one of the things that starmer� s government needs to concentrate on is to find a model that a public Inquiry System could work but deliver justice without slowing it down unnecessarily. fin Justice without slowing it down unnecessarily. Unnecessarily. On that point, do ou unnecessarily. On that point, do you think unnecessarily. On that point, do you think you unnecessarily. On that point, do you think you should unnecessarily. On that point, do you think you should justl do you think you should just accept all the recommendations of the report . Because he said hell take away this report, which has taken seven years to conclude, and he says hell come back and tell us what he might or might not adopt. Shouldnt hejust might or might not adopt. Shouldnt he just adopted in full . I shouldnt he ust adopted in full . ~ shouldnt he ust adopted in full . ~. ,. , full . I think one thing he has to do is make full . I think one thing he has to do is make sure full . I think one thing he has to do is make sure the to do is make sure the prosecutions happen quickly. We hear theres another two years before a decision by the cps, but there repeated scandals like this, whether its the miners strike, windrush, hillsborough, and the nuclear veterans i wrote about for the mirror, and im working with them at the moment to produce a new public Inquiry System. Those men are in their mid 80s, theres no Way Theyve got seven years, let alone waiting 17 forjustice, to wait for stuff. What we are calling for is to have a special one year Public Inquiry with all those powers in resources, but to look at something very specific over a short period of time, bang, get those answers and get things moving. Jae. Bang, get those answers and get things moving things moving. Joe, what about Lobb Inc . Things moving. Joe, what about lobbying . The things moving. Joe, what about lobbying . The families things moving. Joe, what about lobbying . The families here things moving. Joe, what about| lobbying . The families here say the Construction Industry was far too close to the government and regulators we are know that there are vast sums of money of money involved in washington, social media companies lobby, boeing lobbies. Do you worry industry has got too close to government because it props up the Party System . Because it props up the Party S Stem . , because it props up the Party S Stem . ,. , system . Look, lobbying is a fundamental system . Look, lobbying is a fundamental Part System . Look, lobbying is a fundamental part of system . Look, lobbying is a fundamental part of our system . Look, lobbying is a. Fundamental part of our system here, fundamental part of our system here, im fundamental part of our system here, im sure your system there here, im sure your system there as here, im sure your system there as Well Lobbying is every there as Well Lobbying is every bit there as Well Lobbying is every bit as american Apple Pie every bit as american Apple Pie. There are many who can lobby pie. There are many who can lobby the pie. There are many who can lobby the government for what they want. Yes, corporate interests they want. Yes, corporate interests are in bed with government interest, and we have government interest, and we have a government interest, and we have a Revolving Door here where have a Revolving Door here where members of government will leave government and get into the will leave government and get into the lobbying industry, and we always try to improve certain we always try to improve certain rules and regulations, but they certain rules and regulations, but they are constantly abused. Im but they are constantly abused. Im just but they are constantly abused. Im just blown away by the Fact Thatjustice delayed isjustice Denied Thatjustice delayed isjustice denied. My god, its been 6 7 years denied. My god, its been 6 7 years and denied. My god, its been 6 7 years and there is still no public years and there is still no public accountability. We have so much to public accountability. We have so much to get public accountability. We have so much to get to public accountability. We have so much to get to tonight. Public accountability. We have so much to get to tonight. Inl so much to get to tonight. In lesser, a 14 year old boy charged with murder against the 80 year old man in lesser sure, reading some comment from the deputy crown prosecutor, saying they reviewed a file of evidence from lesser police and have authorised the charge of murder against that 14 year old boy, obviously proceedings now are active so we Cant Talk about it much more than that. We are also keeping an eye on the situation in georgia, we will maybe dip into a little bit of that after the break. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. The us Attorney General, merrick garland, says russia is waging an online war to influence the upcoming president ial election. Alonsgide Fbi Director chris wray, the Attorney General told reporters this afternoon that they had mounting evidence pro kremlin groups are targeting specific Voter Demographics and Swing State voters to manipulate the vote. As alleged in