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our panel tonight — from edinburgh, the bbc political correspondent rob watson, and from plymouth, our south west's political editor martyn oates. later in the programme, vladimir putin has just arrived in north korea for a two—day summit with kimjong—un. and we are watching events at the white house tonight — joe biden about to sign an executive order that will grant an amnesty to tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who are married to us citizens. a very warm welcome to the programme. the british billionaire entrepreneur and businessmanjohn caudwell, who gave the conservatives half a million pounds before the last general election, has told the bbc he will vote labour for the first time in his life next month. the founder of the phones au buisness invited our political editor chris mason to his house this afternoon and told him he thought rishi sunak was an "absolute dud" and that the labour leader sir keir starmer is, for him, hitting all the right notes. no, i've no idea how many bulbs there are in those chandeliers either. mayfair and the labour party are not words that often feature in the same sentence, but the party wants to show off their new supporter and invited me to interview him. the last general election, you gave £500,000 to the conservatives, you're now saying "back labour." why? well, the reason, of course, for backing the conservatives was i couldn't possibly stand a corbyn government, and i'm still exactly the same view there. but what i've witnessed, especially over the last couple of years, is a complete change, getting rid of what i would call the loony left, where extreme socialist policies, rather than creating a wealthy britain. tell me about the courtship between the billionaire and the socialist, between you and keir starmer. i don't know whether i'd call it a courtship, to be honest. my thoughts on labour historically were very negative, and what i've seen now, the more and more i've looked at labour, is a transformation. is this going to be the first time you'll have voted labour? first time in 51 years, yes, and honestly it took a lot of me soul—searching. because i guess you voted for the conservatives a lot in the past, is that right? yeah, and it wasn't really because it was the conservative party, it's the conservative principles i believe in. what, in your view, has gone wrong for the conservatives? is rishi sunak a dud? 0h, absolute dud. all the criticisms that i made of rishi during his chancellorship i think were pretty much evidenced in the d—day situation, where... a complete lack ofjudgment. are you going tojoin the labour party? will you consider giving money to them in the way that you have to the conservatives in the past? the labour party, in my estimation, as much i disagree with some of the policies, are the absolute very best for britain going forward. it's quite possible i might support them financially if they needed it next time round, if i think they've done an amazing job. it's nice to talk to you, and thanks for having us. chris mason, bbc news in mayfair. let's get a reaction to that, rob watson was watching. john caudwell i think straightaway from the conservative party a long time ago, but when you have a big business leader like that saying the tory leader like that saying the tory leader is a dud, although chris mason led him into that little bit, that doesn't help, does it? it that doesn't help, does it? it certainly doesn't. i think you could say the on the one hand, does one very rich person, one voter out of 41 million eligible voters make a difference? probably not. on the other hand, if you think about what the labour party's message is, what's your keir starmer has been constantly trying to say, which is, "we are not a classic centreleft party, we won't be immediately reaching for the levers of taxation and taxation, we are all about wealth creation and growth, so it doesn't get you any harm to get you someone who's fab fabulously wealthy on your side." the other thing that looks bad for the governing conservatives is when you've had a whole string of bad news mishaps, to have you another person deserting you even if it's one person doing so very public publicly is not good for the vibes, is it? m0. very public publicly is not good for the vibes, is it?— the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money. _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we don't- the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we don't talk. the vibes, is it? no, in terms of - the money, rob, we don't talk about money in terms of elections when it comes to uk elections — at least pretend to refer to a law and american elections — but when you have a donor of that scale walking away from the party, what is that due to how you run the campaign? we've all been brought up very well, not to be brought up —— not to bring up not to be brought up —— not to bring up money and politics, not like america. but it doesn't help, there have been reports the conservative party is nowhere near as flush as they used to be, and that it's been outspent by the opposition labour party which is amazingly unusual in british elections. doesn't make much difference? i guess it must, otherwise why on earth with the parties be spending this money? so it's one more thing for rishi sunak and conservative headquarters to be worrying about. find and conservative headquarters to be worrying about-— worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, _ worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down _ worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there - worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there in - worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there in the i the lib dems, down there in the southwest, of course as is ever the case in the southwest, you tend to get a number of seats being contested by the conservatives and lib dems. ed davey saying, "if we just get a bit more money out of our donors, we could reach these target seats." , , , . seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared _ seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared to _ seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared to the - resources compared to the conservatives. going into this election. _ conservatives. going into this election, it looked as if — peripherally, we've only got 25 seats _ peripherally, we've only got 25 seats here, so the real focus of the battle _ seats here, so the real focus of the battle was — seats here, so the real focus of the battle was in the midlands and the north _ battle was in the midlands and the north if_ battle was in the midlands and the north. if you make everyone back to the 2015— north. if you make everyone back to the 2015 election where things were very close. — the 2015 election where things were very close, and clearly the conservatives failed to obtain a majority — conservatives failed to obtain a majority in 2010, and managed to get one in— majority in 2010, and managed to get one in 2015, _ majority in 2010, and managed to get one in 2015, in those elections the nationei— one in 2015, in those elections the national result i think it's fair to say did — national result i think it's fair to say did largely hinge on these few seats_ say did largely hinge on these few seats here. the 2015 election comes along, _ seats here. the 2015 election comes along, the _ seats here. the 2015 election comes along, the lib dems coalition collapses completely. so one of the hi i collapses completely. so one of the big questions in this part of the world _ big questions in this part of the world is, — big questions in this part of the world is, can they finally regain some _ world is, can they finally regain some of— world is, can they finally regain some of those seats? now rishi sunak down here _ some of those seats? now rishi sunak down here for the second time today - i down here for the second time today - i get— down here for the second time today - i get the _ down here for the second time today — i get the impression he's revisiting _ — i get the impression he's revisiting those seats previously held revisiting those seats previously hetd tty— revisiting those seats previously held by the liberal democrats. he's concerned _ held by the liberal democrats. he's concerned about that, and conservative mps were telling me leading _ conservative mps were telling me leading up to the that quite late in the day, _ leading up to the that quite late in the day, resources were being switched — the day, resources were being switched to seats here in the southwest — which frankly 2—3 years a-o southwest — which frankly 2—3 years ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats — ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats now. ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats now-— tory seats now. were it not bad enou~h, tory seats now. were it not bad enough. the — tory seats now. were it not bad enough, the statement - tory seats now. were it not bad enough, the statement from i tory seats now. were it not bad i enough, the statement from john caudwell tonight,. the guardian newspaper is leading their coverage tonight with a new ipsos mrp projection that suggests labour is heading for a landslide victory in two weeks' time. the paper say more than 100 conservative—held seats appear to be on a knife—edge, with the result in the hands of millions of undecided swing voters. that poll gives scottish labour real cause for optimism. after a pitiful showing in 2019, the party is now expanding its target to 36 seats north of the border, where today they were unveiling their scottish manifesto. in london, keir starmer was talking to voters on lbc radio. ahead of that appearance, the conservatives attacked him again for some mixed messaging on whether he would reopen the council tax bands. the labour leader told callers that none of his plans require a tax rise, beyond those already set out in the manifesto. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas reports. today is the very last day you can register to vote. these may not be the voters of today, but rishi sunak has been taking his campaign far and wide. this was lincolnshire yesterday. mr sunak, in his search for voters, is sticking to his strategy to subject labour to scrutiny. today in devon, repeating that again. the choice is crystal clear, tax cuts at every stage of your life. if you are in work, setting up a small business and self employed, if you are a young couple wanting to buy a home, if you are a pensioner or have got a young family, the conservatives will deliver tax cuts for you. in contrast, labour willjust put up your taxes, and that will not create any financial security for anyone. the labour leader, meanwhile, keen to slay dragons about his party's plans, was also in the south of england in basingstoke, accompanied by the investor and tv personality theo paphitis. he is highlighting labour plans to set up banking hubs in towns to give people and companies access to banking services. but it is part of the challenge for small businesses — whether it's hospitality, retail, we have just been talking about — and that's why i'm really pleased today to unveil our plan for supporting small businesses, for supporting high streets, to make sure that more people are out using those small businesses on their high street. it is all part of our manifesto, which is a manifesto for wealth creation, growth and making sure people genuinely feel better off with labour. his every move being filmed too, sir ed davey is also in the south of england. today he is up to more genteel stuff, dishing out croissants, but pushing one of the liberal democrats' favourite themes — water quality and their plan to spend £10 million to hire new inspectors to toughen up enforcement. his campaigning in hampshire is another sign the battlegrounds in this election extend into what has long been deep blue conservative territory. across the blue wall seats i have talked about in the home - counties, in surrey, _ sussex, hampshire, hertfordshire, 0xfordshire and cambridgeshire, so many parts of traditional- conservative heartlands, the liberal democrats i are the only party who can beat the conservatives. i i have just been i in the west country. in devon and somerset, i but also dorset and cornwall, we are seeing a revival- of liberal democrat support as people who traditionally have i voted conservative say they can't do it any more. and they will not vote labour, i they will vote liberal democrat. with just over two weeks until polling day, the parties are all fine tuning their campaigns ahead of what will be their final push for your vote in the coming days — if, that is, you register in time. damian grammaticas, bbc news, westminster. martin, i'm looking at this model in the guardian tonight, the first one they've done, and it's only one pole — but it suggests labour would win 453 seats, the conservatives 115, giving labour a majority of 256. do you get the sense, given you've just told us that rishi sunak has been down there twice and quite short order, the actually the campaign is shifting for the conservatives and are now in a defensive crouch? i think that's right. i think there was a — think that's right. i think there was a sense even in the months leading — was a sense even in the months leading up— was a sense even in the months leading up to the election that they ntight— leading up to the election that they might need to be worried about this. in might need to be worried about this. in 2015, _ might need to be worried about this. in 2015, it _ might need to be worried about this. in 2015, it looked as if this was existential for the liberal democrats, and since then they've appealed _ democrats, and since then they've appealed on occasions to take two steps _ appealed on occasions to take two steps forward and three steps back. but on _ steps forward and three steps back. but on the — steps forward and three steps back. but on the last dose might have been three years. — but on the last dose might have been three years, they've made consistent gains _ three years, they've made consistent gains here _ three years, they've made consistent gains here in the region —— 2—3 years — gains here in the region —— 2—3 years in— gains here in the region —— 2—3 years. in devon, the unitary council in dorset, _ years. in devon, the unitary council in dorset, which they took for the first time — in dorset, which they took for the first time ever this year, dorset was always on their wish list but they never— was always on their wish list but they never managed to crack it like they never managed to crack it like they have — they never managed to crack it like they have now, the unitary authority in somerset. always difficult to extrapolate from local elections what _ extrapolate from local elections what will happen in the general — having _ what will happen in the general — having said that, historically the lib dems's pattern of success as they— lib dems's pattern of success as they build — lib dems's pattern of success as they build up strength and local government, and certainly those etection— government, and certainly those election results would point to success — election results would point to success. but the big question remains — success. but the big question remains as to whether they can crack it at the _ remains as to whether they can crack it at the parliamentary level. the other— it at the parliamentary level. the other thing in terms of westminster representation is they did take that safe tory— representation is they did take that safe tory seat, neil parish's seat — remember— safe tory seat, neil parish's seat — remember he resigned in the tractor pawn— remember he resigned in the tractor pawn incident — that was a sea that had never— pawn incident — that was a sea that had never been anything but tory previously, it's disappeared under the changes. again, is that changing in the _ the changes. again, is that changing in the big _ the changes. again, is that changing in the big revival? there's still a bil in the big revival? there's still a big question mark over that. i big question mark over that. wonder big question mark over that. i wonder whether this poll is an entire disaster for the conservatives, obviously the numbers are terrifying for the conservative party, but grant shapps has been out on the airwaves in the last two days warning about a labour super majority, and the report does say that all these seats are dependent on undecided swing voters. so presumably they will get hold of that and say to their own supporters, "this is why you need to come out." supporters, "this is why you need to come out-"— come out." hard to find a silver linin: in come out." hard to find a silver lining in a _ come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll— come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like _ come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like this, - come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like this, but i suppose you're having a little attempt. by the way, greetings to martin, and if it doesn't violate bbc impartiality, i adore devon — but i adore all counties in england. he's coming after yourjob there. i suppose if you really are doing a christian fraser special of you are a political adviser trying to look on the bright side, might this terrify some of your voters coming out to support you? may be — to quote the great goo ruby always use, professorjohn curtis, the pollster from scotland, he wrote this fascinating piece over the weekend based on all the polling, saying it was pretty obvious the conservatives were going to get one helluva kicking — but the question isjust how big a kicking? there was quite a variety in it, and it depends on what the people who were voting conservative in 2019, but now say they don't, what do they do? if they go to reformat, it's bad for the conservatives, if they go to labour, it's bad for the conservatives. fin it's bad for the conservatives. on the it's bad for the conservatives. 0n the manifesto scottish labour put out today and this new target of 36 seats, from the two seats they currently hold, that's an extraordinary uplift — but when you look at the manifesto, is it about this election, or is he looking forward to years to the hollyrood election? �* ., �* , ~ forward to years to the hollyrood election? 1, �*, ~ i. ~ election? both - it's like you knew i would election? both - it's like you knew i would say — election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. _ election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's _ election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's about - election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's about the i i would say that. it's about the message being we need to get rid of the conservatives in westminster, and once we finish them off, we'll take them on in scotland, take the snp alone, and two years for the scottish elections. so it's absolutely both. let scottish elections. so it's absolutely both.- scottish elections. so it's absolutely both. scottish elections. so it's absolutel both. , ., absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures _ absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before - absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before we i absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before we go l absolutely both. let me show you | some live pictures before we go to the break, becausejoe biden has just taken to the stage — there he is, alongside the first lady, jill, who isjust addressing people in the white house, about to sign an executive order that will grant an amnesty to illegal immigrants who are married to us citizens and have beenin are married to us citizens and have been in the country for ten years. that's balancing out an executive order he signed just a couple weeks ago which closed the southern border — we'll talk about that plenty more in the second hour of the programme tonight, so we will keep watching that, but we'll talk plenty more about it in 30 minutes' time. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. it fell a bit like the farm versus the high street today. but shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, has been focusing on the high street today, setting out plans to open 350 "banking hubs" which would allow staff from several banks to share the same space, helping to fill the gaps that have been left around the country with branch closures. and then she was pulling a pint in a pub in southamption itchen. in response to a campaign run by the sun newspaper, she is promising to protect the pubs threatened with closure. it looks likely she will freeze beer duty — but more than that, she is giving communities the right to buy their pubs in those villages and towns were breweries are withdrawing. this really caught my eye because particularly in villages and towns around the southwest, in devon and dorset, the pub is the focal point of the community. it dorset, the pub is the focal point of the community.— of the community. it is, and hospitality _ of the community. it is, and hospitality and _ of the community. it is, and hospitality and tourism i of the community. it is, and hospitality and tourism is i of the community. it is, and | hospitality and tourism is the region's— hospitality and tourism is the region's biggest industry, which i think— region's biggest industry, which i think rob — people like to come here on holiday _ think rob — people like to come here on holiday. there is an annoyance that the _ on holiday. there is an annoyance that the picture postcard villages mask— that the picture postcard villages mask the — that the picture postcard villages mask the reality of life, cornwall and devon— mask the reality of life, cornwall and devon are some of the poorest parts _ and devon are some of the poorest parts of— and devon are some of the poorest parts of the — and devon are some of the poorest parts of the country. but coming back— parts of the country. but coming back to — parts of the country. but coming back to the hospitality, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there's a sense _ restaurants and hotels, there's a sense they've had a very rough time over the _ sense they've had a very rough time over the last — sense they've had a very rough time over the last few years. covid has played _ over the last few years. covid has played a — over the last few years. covid has played a big part in that — and also breaks— played a big part in that — and also breaks it. — played a big part in that — and also breaks it, one of the big concerns is being _ breaks it, one of the big concerns is being able to access the labour, they can't— is being able to access the labour, they can't access domestically, there _ they can't access domestically, there was— they can't access domestically, there was a horrified reaction earlier— there was a horrified reaction earlier this year when the present government increase for the threshold for immigrants workers to -et threshold for immigrants workers to get visas _ threshold for immigrants workers to get visas. they very much like to see a _ get visas. they very much like to see a cut — get visas. they very much like to see a cut on _ get visas. they very much like to see a cut on vat and hospitality — that was— see a cut on vat and hospitality — that was brought up briefly during covid, _ that was brought up briefly during covid, but — that was brought up briefly during covid, but the present government is resolutely— covid, but the present government is resolutely resisted calls for that to return, — resolutely resisted calls for that to return, and as far as i can see there's— to return, and as far as i can see there's no— to return, and as far as i can see there's no offer on that from any other— there's no offer on that from any other countries. it's an important sector— other countries. it's an important sector and — other countries. it's an important sector and it's the only sector that feels _ sector and it's the only sector that feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors _ feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors who— feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors who feel they've had a very rough _ sectors who feel they've had a very rough time — sectors who feel they've had a very rough time since brexit. it�*s sectors who feel they've had a very rough time since brexit.— rough time since brexit. it's one thin to rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give _ rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an _ rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an option... i rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an option... but i rough time since brexit. it's onel thing to give an option... but you have to make a go of that, there've been 80 pubs that called last orders in the first three months of this year, energy costs, spirit taxes, the costs of putting food on the table in pubs it's affordable — there's a whole range of issues that go into hospitality other than the option to buy. go into hospitality other than the option to lony— option to buy. absolutely, i was thinkin: option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about _ option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, _ option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and - option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and i i option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and i thinkl thinking about this, and i think i'm allowed to say this on air — when i firstjoined the bbc over 40 years ago, i used to go into the pub every day, lunch time and evenings. the aood old day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but _ day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the _ day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the news i day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the news was l good old days. but the news was alwa s good old days. but the news was always spot _ good old days. but the news was always spot on- _ good old days. but the news was always spot on. you _ good old days. but the news was always spot on. you are - good old days. but the news was always spot on. you are always l good old days. but the news was| always spot on. you are always so much more _ always spot on. you are always so much more fluent. _ always spot on. you are always so much more fluent. laughter i much more fluent. laughter i think it's probably not my own lifestyle, which has been changing, but there's clearly something about the way in which we live and the cost of going out — but on your point, in my area, oxfordshire, much as i love devon, oxfordshire has my heart, some of these community run pubs have worked and some haven't. i don't know the ins and outs of it but i guess in the end, it depends on how big a solid bunch of people are like rob watson in the 1980—905, rather than in 2020. the are like rob watson in the 1980-90s, rather than in 2020.— rather than in 2020. the levelling u. rather than in 2020. the levelling u- aaenda rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda l _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was all - rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was all about i up agenda i recall was all about breathing new life into towns that were losing the high street, and it's a really important issue — i was listening to voters in rochdale today who said the big stores had pulled out, there was no market, pubs were closing down, this policy of putting banks back into town centres, branches have closed down — our labour onto something here, do we need more creative ideas to bring back a sense of community? is that something that would redress this feeling that nothing is working? it's a cracking question — i think to be fair, you wouldn't find a political party in this country — and what i mean this country, anybody who thought it was a good idea if we let our high streets go to rack and ruin. everyone knows it would be a good idea to try and do something, but the question is what? the more you look at it, if i look where i live in oxford, the amount of effort people put into thinking, "well, how do you keep business as they are? do you cut business rates? what do you do about rent and transporting people in the cities? klitschko it's really interesting that big complex countries like britain with all sorts of transportation challenges, and all towns, places where the roads — this is not a simple thing to solve, and if it had been simple, it would've been solved a long time ago. but when i think about how different life is now compared to when i was younger, everyone would go into the centre of oxford to do their shopping for comestibles — you go there for vegetables and buy clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of— clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what _ clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he _ clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he was - clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he was on i — in terms of what he was on the farm today, we should talk about the policy that rishi sunak is defending, inheritance tax, the environment secretary warning this morning and the telegraph newspaper that labour could scrap the tax breaks that allow farmland to be passed down tax—free. is that a vote winner for the conservatives in these swing you seats they are trying to defend? i these swing you seats they are trying to defend?— these swing you seats they are trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in the _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in the broader- to be seen in the broader context, they said — to be seen in the broader context, they said just now if you look at an industry— they said just now if you look at an industry like which farming, would traditionally be seen as a core conservative stitching at sea desk constituency, the upheaval that followed — constituency, the upheaval that followed from brexit — when we were in the _ followed from brexit — when we were in the eu, _ followed from brexit — when we were in the eu, they were subject to the common— in the eu, they were subject to the common cultural democrat agricultural policy, but there was the subsidy system which gave them a guaranteed income based on the size of their— guaranteed income based on the size of their land—holdings. there'll some _ of their land—holdings. there'll some big — of their land—holdings. there'll some big farms in other parts of the country— some big farms in other parts of the country where that was pocket money, but small— country where that was pocket money, but small family farms in the southwest often relied on that. so they are _ southwest often relied on that. so they are very uneasy about the new system _ they are very uneasy about the new system being brought in to replace it — system being brought in to replace it - and _ system being brought in to replace it — and frankly whether there's enough — it — and frankly whether there's enough money there. so the national farmers' _ enough money there. so the national farmers' union is telling whoever wins _ farmers' union is telling whoever wins this— farmers' union is telling whoever wins this election, they should be doubling — wins this election, they should be doubling that budget. concerns about accessing _ doubling that budget. concerns about accessing labour since brexit again, like the _ accessing labour since brexit again, like the hospitality industry, a lot of disquiet and this is still ongoing, a lot of publicity at the time _ ongoing, a lot of publicity at the time about those trade deals struck with new_ time about those trade deals struck with new zealand and australia, and the fear— with new zealand and australia, and the fear they are at that cheap foreign — the fear they are at that cheap foreign meat produced to lower standards will flow in and undercut their produce. they'll be looking at this, there's a lot of issues. martin, _ this, there's a lot of issues. martin, lovely to have you alongside, we could have organised a job swap with you and robin oxfordshire, i don't know. broad, lovely to see you. we will be right back after this break —— rob in oxfordshire. hello there, good evening. a few heavy, thundery downpours around for some today, but some brighter spells in between. cloudier towards the south than we saw yesterday, so the temperatures not quite as high. but still some long sunny spells around for many spots, including in lancashire — and that really sets the scene for the rest of the week, when it will feel a lot more like summer than it has been of late. drier, a little warmerfor most, but not completely dry. still the chance of some showers, and indeed, some longer spells of rain. but on wednesday, it does look mostly dry — and that's because high pressure continues to build in from the azores — chance of an isolated shower or two, a front moves into the far northwest of scotland. but overnight tonight, well, the showers from today will just continue to fade away. long, clear spells, some areas of cloud at times. locally, across parts of scotland, we could see lows of around 3—4 celsius — ao a little chilly here, but further south, we'll see temperatures stay in double figures. lots of sunshine to start the day on wednesday, a bit more fairweather cloud bubbling up through the afternoon. and that cloud will thicken across northwest scotland, eventually bringing some splashes of rain, perhaps spilling more clouds across northern ireland, too. still chilly for the far north of scotland, elsewhere, the high teens — the low 20s in celsius as temperatures reacting to the sunshine, along with the pollen levels, too — and where we've got the best of the sunshine, those pollen levels will be high or very high across the grass policies and has begun now. thursday marks the summer solstice, a few changes — have to keep an eye on this area of low pressure over the continent, could produce a few showers towards the far southeast of england, and our weather front continues to sink southwards and eastwards. more cloud over the north west or northern ireland and for much of scotland. perhaps a few outbreaks of rain here and there at times — it may not be completely dry. but the best of the brightness and the dry weather will probably be for eastern areas of england — and here, temperatures away from any showers will rise to around 22 celsius. and then, we look out towards the atlantic to find our weather for the rest of the week. now, these weather fronts will be approaching, bringing outbreaks of rain into northwest scotland, northern ireland on friday morning. and then, that rain will continue to track further eastwards as we head through friday afternoon and into the evening. but lots of dry weather developing over the weekend — it will be feeling warmer, and there'll be plenty of sunshine, too. bye for now. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. vladimir putin hasjust arrived in north korea, for a meeting with kimjong—un. live pictures and senior democrats, just about to sign an executive order that will grant amnesty to illegal immigrants married to us citizens, that will help tens of thousands of people who are currently in limbo and let us listen and. �* , . . . . ., and. any fundamental change in our immigration — and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, _ and. any fundamental change in our immigration 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our panel tonight — from edinburgh, the bbc political correspondent rob watson, and from plymouth, our south west's political editor martyn oates. later in the programme, vladimir putin has just arrived in north korea for a two—day summit with kimjong—un. and we are watching events at the white house tonight — joe biden about to sign an executive order that will grant an amnesty to tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who are married to us citizens. a very warm welcome to the programme. the british billionaire entrepreneur and businessmanjohn caudwell, who gave the conservatives half a million pounds before the last general election, has told the bbc he will vote labour for the first time in his life next month. the founder of the phones au buisness invited our political editor chris mason to his house this afternoon and told him he thought rishi sunak was an "absolute dud" and that the labour leader sir keir starmer is, for him, hitting all the right notes. no, i've no idea how many bulbs there are in those chandeliers either. mayfair and the labour party are not words that often feature in the same sentence, but the party wants to show off their new supporter and invited me to interview him. the last general election, you gave £500,000 to the conservatives, you're now saying "back labour." why? well, the reason, of course, for backing the conservatives was i couldn't possibly stand a corbyn government, and i'm still exactly the same view there. but what i've witnessed, especially over the last couple of years, is a complete change, getting rid of what i would call the loony left, where extreme socialist policies, rather than creating a wealthy britain. tell me about the courtship between the billionaire and the socialist, between you and keir starmer. i don't know whether i'd call it a courtship, to be honest. my thoughts on labour historically were very negative, and what i've seen now, the more and more i've looked at labour, is a transformation. is this going to be the first time you'll have voted labour? first time in 51 years, yes, and honestly it took a lot of me soul—searching. because i guess you voted for the conservatives a lot in the past, is that right? yeah, and it wasn't really because it was the conservative party, it's the conservative principles i believe in. what, in your view, has gone wrong for the conservatives? is rishi sunak a dud? 0h, absolute dud. all the criticisms that i made of rishi during his chancellorship i think were pretty much evidenced in the d—day situation, where... a complete lack ofjudgment. are you going tojoin the labour party? will you consider giving money to them in the way that you have to the conservatives in the past? the labour party, in my estimation, as much i disagree with some of the policies, are the absolute very best for britain going forward. it's quite possible i might support them financially if they needed it next time round, if i think they've done an amazing job. it's nice to talk to you, and thanks for having us. chris mason, bbc news in mayfair. let's get a reaction to that, rob watson was watching. john caudwell i think straightaway from the conservative party a long time ago, but when you have a big business leader like that saying the tory leader like that saying the tory leader is a dud, although chris mason led him into that little bit, that doesn't help, does it? it that doesn't help, does it? it certainly doesn't. i think you could say the on the one hand, does one very rich person, one voter out of 41 million eligible voters make a difference? probably not. on the other hand, if you think about what the labour party's message is, what's your keir starmer has been constantly trying to say, which is, "we are not a classic centreleft party, we won't be immediately reaching for the levers of taxation and taxation, we are all about wealth creation and growth, so it doesn't get you any harm to get you someone who's fab fabulously wealthy on your side." the other thing that looks bad for the governing conservatives is when you've had a whole string of bad news mishaps, to have you another person deserting you even if it's one person doing so very public publicly is not good for the vibes, is it? m0. very public publicly is not good for the vibes, is it?— the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money. _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we _ the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we don't- the vibes, is it? no, in terms of the money, rob, we don't talk. the vibes, is it? no, in terms of - the money, rob, we don't talk about money in terms of elections when it comes to uk elections — at least pretend to refer to a law and american elections — but when you have a donor of that scale walking away from the party, what is that due to how you run the campaign? we've all been brought up very well, not to be brought up —— not to bring up not to be brought up —— not to bring up money and politics, not like america. but it doesn't help, there have been reports the conservative party is nowhere near as flush as they used to be, and that it's been outspent by the opposition labour party which is amazingly unusual in british elections. doesn't make much difference? i guess it must, otherwise why on earth with the parties be spending this money? so it's one more thing for rishi sunak and conservative headquarters to be worrying about. find and conservative headquarters to be worrying about-— worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, _ worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down _ worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there - worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there in - worrying about. and it's something the lib dems, down there in the i the lib dems, down there in the southwest, of course as is ever the case in the southwest, you tend to get a number of seats being contested by the conservatives and lib dems. ed davey saying, "if we just get a bit more money out of our donors, we could reach these target seats." , , , . seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared _ seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared to _ seats." the lib dems have limited resources compared to the - resources compared to the conservatives. going into this election. _ conservatives. going into this election, it looked as if — peripherally, we've only got 25 seats _ peripherally, we've only got 25 seats here, so the real focus of the battle _ seats here, so the real focus of the battle was — seats here, so the real focus of the battle was in the midlands and the north _ battle was in the midlands and the north if_ battle was in the midlands and the north. if you make everyone back to the 2015— north. if you make everyone back to the 2015 election where things were very close. — the 2015 election where things were very close, and clearly the conservatives failed to obtain a majority — conservatives failed to obtain a majority in 2010, and managed to get one in— majority in 2010, and managed to get one in 2015, _ majority in 2010, and managed to get one in 2015, in those elections the nationei— one in 2015, in those elections the national result i think it's fair to say did — national result i think it's fair to say did largely hinge on these few seats_ say did largely hinge on these few seats here. the 2015 election comes along, _ seats here. the 2015 election comes along, the _ seats here. the 2015 election comes along, the lib dems coalition collapses completely. so one of the hi i collapses completely. so one of the big questions in this part of the world _ big questions in this part of the world is, — big questions in this part of the world is, can they finally regain some _ world is, can they finally regain some of— world is, can they finally regain some of those seats? now rishi sunak down here _ some of those seats? now rishi sunak down here for the second time today - i down here for the second time today - i get— down here for the second time today - i get the _ down here for the second time today — i get the impression he's revisiting _ — i get the impression he's revisiting those seats previously held revisiting those seats previously hetd tty— revisiting those seats previously held by the liberal democrats. he's concerned _ held by the liberal democrats. he's concerned about that, and conservative mps were telling me leading _ conservative mps were telling me leading up to the that quite late in the day, _ leading up to the that quite late in the day, resources were being switched — the day, resources were being switched to seats here in the southwest — which frankly 2—3 years a-o southwest — which frankly 2—3 years ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats — ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats now. ago would've been viewed as safe tory seats now-— tory seats now. were it not bad enou~h, tory seats now. were it not bad enough. the — tory seats now. were it not bad enough, the statement - tory seats now. were it not bad enough, the statement from i tory seats now. were it not bad i enough, the statement from john caudwell tonight,. the guardian newspaper is leading their coverage tonight with a new ipsos mrp projection that suggests labour is heading for a landslide victory in two weeks' time. the paper say more than 100 conservative—held seats appear to be on a knife—edge, with the result in the hands of millions of undecided swing voters. that poll gives scottish labour real cause for optimism. after a pitiful showing in 2019, the party is now expanding its target to 36 seats north of the border, where today they were unveiling their scottish manifesto. in london, keir starmer was talking to voters on lbc radio. ahead of that appearance, the conservatives attacked him again for some mixed messaging on whether he would reopen the council tax bands. the labour leader told callers that none of his plans require a tax rise, beyond those already set out in the manifesto. 0ur political correspondent damian grammaticas reports. today is the very last day you can register to vote. these may not be the voters of today, but rishi sunak has been taking his campaign far and wide. this was lincolnshire yesterday. mr sunak, in his search for voters, is sticking to his strategy to subject labour to scrutiny. today in devon, repeating that again. the choice is crystal clear, tax cuts at every stage of your life. if you are in work, setting up a small business and self employed, if you are a young couple wanting to buy a home, if you are a pensioner or have got a young family, the conservatives will deliver tax cuts for you. in contrast, labour willjust put up your taxes, and that will not create any financial security for anyone. the labour leader, meanwhile, keen to slay dragons about his party's plans, was also in the south of england in basingstoke, accompanied by the investor and tv personality theo paphitis. he is highlighting labour plans to set up banking hubs in towns to give people and companies access to banking services. but it is part of the challenge for small businesses — whether it's hospitality, retail, we have just been talking about — and that's why i'm really pleased today to unveil our plan for supporting small businesses, for supporting high streets, to make sure that more people are out using those small businesses on their high street. it is all part of our manifesto, which is a manifesto for wealth creation, growth and making sure people genuinely feel better off with labour. his every move being filmed too, sir ed davey is also in the south of england. today he is up to more genteel stuff, dishing out croissants, but pushing one of the liberal democrats' favourite themes — water quality and their plan to spend £10 million to hire new inspectors to toughen up enforcement. his campaigning in hampshire is another sign the battlegrounds in this election extend into what has long been deep blue conservative territory. across the blue wall seats i have talked about in the home - counties, in surrey, _ sussex, hampshire, hertfordshire, 0xfordshire and cambridgeshire, so many parts of traditional- conservative heartlands, the liberal democrats i are the only party who can beat the conservatives. i i have just been i in the west country. in devon and somerset, i but also dorset and cornwall, we are seeing a revival- of liberal democrat support as people who traditionally have i voted conservative say they can't do it any more. and they will not vote labour, i they will vote liberal democrat. with just over two weeks until polling day, the parties are all fine tuning their campaigns ahead of what will be their final push for your vote in the coming days — if, that is, you register in time. damian grammaticas, bbc news, westminster. martin, i'm looking at this model in the guardian tonight, the first one they've done, and it's only one pole — but it suggests labour would win 453 seats, the conservatives 115, giving labour a majority of 256. do you get the sense, given you've just told us that rishi sunak has been down there twice and quite short order, the actually the campaign is shifting for the conservatives and are now in a defensive crouch? i think that's right. i think there was a — think that's right. i think there was a sense even in the months leading — was a sense even in the months leading up— was a sense even in the months leading up to the election that they ntight— leading up to the election that they might need to be worried about this. in might need to be worried about this. in 2015, _ might need to be worried about this. in 2015, it _ might need to be worried about this. in 2015, it looked as if this was existential for the liberal democrats, and since then they've appealed _ democrats, and since then they've appealed on occasions to take two steps _ appealed on occasions to take two steps forward and three steps back. but on _ steps forward and three steps back. but on the — steps forward and three steps back. but on the last dose might have been three years. — but on the last dose might have been three years, they've made consistent gains _ three years, they've made consistent gains here _ three years, they've made consistent gains here in the region —— 2—3 years — gains here in the region —— 2—3 years in— gains here in the region —— 2—3 years. in devon, the unitary council in dorset, _ years. in devon, the unitary council in dorset, which they took for the first time — in dorset, which they took for the first time ever this year, dorset was always on their wish list but they never— was always on their wish list but they never managed to crack it like they never managed to crack it like they have — they never managed to crack it like they have now, the unitary authority in somerset. always difficult to extrapolate from local elections what _ extrapolate from local elections what will happen in the general — having _ what will happen in the general — having said that, historically the lib dems's pattern of success as they— lib dems's pattern of success as they build — lib dems's pattern of success as they build up strength and local government, and certainly those etection— government, and certainly those election results would point to success — election results would point to success. but the big question remains — success. but the big question remains as to whether they can crack it at the _ remains as to whether they can crack it at the parliamentary level. the other— it at the parliamentary level. the other thing in terms of westminster representation is they did take that safe tory— representation is they did take that safe tory seat, neil parish's seat — remember— safe tory seat, neil parish's seat — remember he resigned in the tractor pawn— remember he resigned in the tractor pawn incident — that was a sea that had never— pawn incident — that was a sea that had never been anything but tory previously, it's disappeared under the changes. again, is that changing in the _ the changes. again, is that changing in the big _ the changes. again, is that changing in the big revival? there's still a bil in the big revival? there's still a big question mark over that. i big question mark over that. wonder big question mark over that. i wonder whether this poll is an entire disaster for the conservatives, obviously the numbers are terrifying for the conservative party, but grant shapps has been out on the airwaves in the last two days warning about a labour super majority, and the report does say that all these seats are dependent on undecided swing voters. so presumably they will get hold of that and say to their own supporters, "this is why you need to come out." supporters, "this is why you need to come out-"— come out." hard to find a silver linin: in come out." hard to find a silver lining in a _ come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll— come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like _ come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like this, - come out." hard to find a silver lining in a poll like this, but i suppose you're having a little attempt. by the way, greetings to martin, and if it doesn't violate bbc impartiality, i adore devon — but i adore all counties in england. he's coming after yourjob there. i suppose if you really are doing a christian fraser special of you are a political adviser trying to look on the bright side, might this terrify some of your voters coming out to support you? may be — to quote the great goo ruby always use, professorjohn curtis, the pollster from scotland, he wrote this fascinating piece over the weekend based on all the polling, saying it was pretty obvious the conservatives were going to get one helluva kicking — but the question isjust how big a kicking? there was quite a variety in it, and it depends on what the people who were voting conservative in 2019, but now say they don't, what do they do? if they go to reformat, it's bad for the conservatives, if they go to labour, it's bad for the conservatives. fin it's bad for the conservatives. on the it's bad for the conservatives. 0n the manifesto scottish labour put out today and this new target of 36 seats, from the two seats they currently hold, that's an extraordinary uplift — but when you look at the manifesto, is it about this election, or is he looking forward to years to the hollyrood election? �* ., �* , ~ forward to years to the hollyrood election? 1, �*, ~ i. ~ election? both - it's like you knew i would election? both - it's like you knew i would say — election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. _ election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's _ election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's about - election? both - it's like you knew i would say that. it's about the i i would say that. it's about the message being we need to get rid of the conservatives in westminster, and once we finish them off, we'll take them on in scotland, take the snp alone, and two years for the scottish elections. so it's absolutely both. let scottish elections. so it's absolutely both.- scottish elections. so it's absolutely both. scottish elections. so it's absolutel both. , ., absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures _ absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before - absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before we i absolutely both. let me show you some live pictures before we go l absolutely both. let me show you | some live pictures before we go to the break, becausejoe biden has just taken to the stage — there he is, alongside the first lady, jill, who isjust addressing people in the white house, about to sign an executive order that will grant an amnesty to illegal immigrants who are married to us citizens and have beenin are married to us citizens and have been in the country for ten years. that's balancing out an executive order he signed just a couple weeks ago which closed the southern border — we'll talk about that plenty more in the second hour of the programme tonight, so we will keep watching that, but we'll talk plenty more about it in 30 minutes' time. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. it fell a bit like the farm versus the high street today. but shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, has been focusing on the high street today, setting out plans to open 350 "banking hubs" which would allow staff from several banks to share the same space, helping to fill the gaps that have been left around the country with branch closures. and then she was pulling a pint in a pub in southamption itchen. in response to a campaign run by the sun newspaper, she is promising to protect the pubs threatened with closure. it looks likely she will freeze beer duty — but more than that, she is giving communities the right to buy their pubs in those villages and towns were breweries are withdrawing. this really caught my eye because particularly in villages and towns around the southwest, in devon and dorset, the pub is the focal point of the community. it dorset, the pub is the focal point of the community.— of the community. it is, and hospitality _ of the community. it is, and hospitality and _ of the community. it is, and hospitality and tourism i of the community. it is, and hospitality and tourism is i of the community. it is, and | hospitality and tourism is the region's— hospitality and tourism is the region's biggest industry, which i think— region's biggest industry, which i think rob — people like to come here on holiday _ think rob — people like to come here on holiday. there is an annoyance that the _ on holiday. there is an annoyance that the picture postcard villages mask— that the picture postcard villages mask the — that the picture postcard villages mask the reality of life, cornwall and devon— mask the reality of life, cornwall and devon are some of the poorest parts _ and devon are some of the poorest parts of— and devon are some of the poorest parts of the — and devon are some of the poorest parts of the country. but coming back— parts of the country. but coming back to — parts of the country. but coming back to the hospitality, pubs, restaurants and hotels, there's a sense _ restaurants and hotels, there's a sense they've had a very rough time over the _ sense they've had a very rough time over the last — sense they've had a very rough time over the last few years. covid has played _ over the last few years. covid has played a — over the last few years. covid has played a big part in that — and also breaks— played a big part in that — and also breaks it. — played a big part in that — and also breaks it, one of the big concerns is being _ breaks it, one of the big concerns is being able to access the labour, they can't— is being able to access the labour, they can't access domestically, there _ they can't access domestically, there was— they can't access domestically, there was a horrified reaction earlier— there was a horrified reaction earlier this year when the present government increase for the threshold for immigrants workers to -et threshold for immigrants workers to get visas _ threshold for immigrants workers to get visas. they very much like to see a _ get visas. they very much like to see a cut — get visas. they very much like to see a cut on _ get visas. they very much like to see a cut on vat and hospitality — that was— see a cut on vat and hospitality — that was brought up briefly during covid, _ that was brought up briefly during covid, but — that was brought up briefly during covid, but the present government is resolutely— covid, but the present government is resolutely resisted calls for that to return, — resolutely resisted calls for that to return, and as far as i can see there's— to return, and as far as i can see there's no— to return, and as far as i can see there's no offer on that from any other— there's no offer on that from any other countries. it's an important sector— other countries. it's an important sector and — other countries. it's an important sector and it's the only sector that feels _ sector and it's the only sector that feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors _ feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors who— feels beleaguered —— it's not. two sectors who feel they've had a very rough _ sectors who feel they've had a very rough time — sectors who feel they've had a very rough time since brexit. it�*s sectors who feel they've had a very rough time since brexit.— rough time since brexit. it's one thin to rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give _ rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an _ rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an option... i rough time since brexit. it's one thing to give an option... but i rough time since brexit. it's onel thing to give an option... but you have to make a go of that, there've been 80 pubs that called last orders in the first three months of this year, energy costs, spirit taxes, the costs of putting food on the table in pubs it's affordable — there's a whole range of issues that go into hospitality other than the option to buy. go into hospitality other than the option to lony— option to buy. absolutely, i was thinkin: option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about _ option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, _ option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and - option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and i i option to buy. absolutely, i was thinking about this, and i thinkl thinking about this, and i think i'm allowed to say this on air — when i firstjoined the bbc over 40 years ago, i used to go into the pub every day, lunch time and evenings. the aood old day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but _ day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the _ day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the news i day, lunch time and evenings. the good old days. but the news was l good old days. but the news was alwa s good old days. but the news was always spot _ good old days. but the news was always spot on- _ good old days. but the news was always spot on. you _ good old days. but the news was always spot on. you are - good old days. but the news was always spot on. you are always l good old days. but the news was| always spot on. you are always so much more _ always spot on. you are always so much more fluent. _ always spot on. you are always so much more fluent. laughter i much more fluent. laughter i think it's probably not my own lifestyle, which has been changing, but there's clearly something about the way in which we live and the cost of going out — but on your point, in my area, oxfordshire, much as i love devon, oxfordshire has my heart, some of these community run pubs have worked and some haven't. i don't know the ins and outs of it but i guess in the end, it depends on how big a solid bunch of people are like rob watson in the 1980—905, rather than in 2020. the are like rob watson in the 1980-90s, rather than in 2020.— rather than in 2020. the levelling u. rather than in 2020. the levelling u- aaenda rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda l _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was _ rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was all - rather than in 2020. the levelling up agenda i recall was all about i up agenda i recall was all about breathing new life into towns that were losing the high street, and it's a really important issue — i was listening to voters in rochdale today who said the big stores had pulled out, there was no market, pubs were closing down, this policy of putting banks back into town centres, branches have closed down — our labour onto something here, do we need more creative ideas to bring back a sense of community? is that something that would redress this feeling that nothing is working? it's a cracking question — i think to be fair, you wouldn't find a political party in this country — and what i mean this country, anybody who thought it was a good idea if we let our high streets go to rack and ruin. everyone knows it would be a good idea to try and do something, but the question is what? the more you look at it, if i look where i live in oxford, the amount of effort people put into thinking, "well, how do you keep business as they are? do you cut business rates? what do you do about rent and transporting people in the cities? klitschko it's really interesting that big complex countries like britain with all sorts of transportation challenges, and all towns, places where the roads — this is not a simple thing to solve, and if it had been simple, it would've been solved a long time ago. but when i think about how different life is now compared to when i was younger, everyone would go into the centre of oxford to do their shopping for comestibles — you go there for vegetables and buy clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of— clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what _ clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he _ clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he was - clothes, but life is changed. indeed - in terms of what he was on i — in terms of what he was on the farm today, we should talk about the policy that rishi sunak is defending, inheritance tax, the environment secretary warning this morning and the telegraph newspaper that labour could scrap the tax breaks that allow farmland to be passed down tax—free. is that a vote winner for the conservatives in these swing you seats they are trying to defend? i these swing you seats they are trying to defend?— these swing you seats they are trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in the _ trying to defend? i think it needs to be seen in the broader- to be seen in the broader context, they said — to be seen in the broader context, they said just now if you look at an industry— they said just now if you look at an industry like which farming, would traditionally be seen as a core conservative stitching at sea desk constituency, the upheaval that followed — constituency, the upheaval that followed from brexit — when we were in the _ followed from brexit — when we were in the eu, _ followed from brexit — when we were in the eu, they were subject to the common— in the eu, they were subject to the common cultural democrat agricultural policy, but there was the subsidy system which gave them a guaranteed income based on the size of their— guaranteed income based on the size of their land—holdings. there'll some _ of their land—holdings. there'll some big — of their land—holdings. there'll some big farms in other parts of the country— some big farms in other parts of the country where that was pocket money, but small— country where that was pocket money, but small family farms in the southwest often relied on that. so they are _ southwest often relied on that. so they are very uneasy about the new system _ they are very uneasy about the new system being brought in to replace it — system being brought in to replace it - and _ system being brought in to replace it — and frankly whether there's enough — it — and frankly whether there's enough money there. so the national farmers' _ enough money there. so the national farmers' union is telling whoever wins _ farmers' union is telling whoever wins this— farmers' union is telling whoever wins this election, they should be doubling — wins this election, they should be doubling that budget. concerns about accessing _ doubling that budget. concerns about accessing labour since brexit again, like the _ accessing labour since brexit again, like the hospitality industry, a lot of disquiet and this is still ongoing, a lot of publicity at the time _ ongoing, a lot of publicity at the time about those trade deals struck with new_ time about those trade deals struck with new zealand and australia, and the fear— with new zealand and australia, and the fear they are at that cheap foreign — the fear they are at that cheap foreign meat produced to lower standards will flow in and undercut their produce. they'll be looking at this, there's a lot of issues. martin, _ this, there's a lot of issues. martin, lovely to have you alongside, we could have organised a job swap with you and robin oxfordshire, i don't know. broad, lovely to see you. we will be right back after this break —— rob in oxfordshire. hello there, good evening. a few heavy, thundery downpours around for some today, but some brighter spells in between. cloudier towards the south than we saw yesterday, so the temperatures not quite as high. but still some long sunny spells around for many spots, including in lancashire — and that really sets the scene for the rest of the week, when it will feel a lot more like summer than it has been of late. drier, a little warmerfor most, but not completely dry. still the chance of some showers, and indeed, some longer spells of rain. but on wednesday, it does look mostly dry — and that's because high pressure continues to build in from the azores — chance of an isolated shower or two, a front moves into the far northwest of scotland. but overnight tonight, well, the showers from today will just continue to fade away. long, clear spells, some areas of cloud at times. locally, across parts of scotland, we could see lows of around 3—4 celsius — ao a little chilly here, but further south, we'll see temperatures stay in double figures. lots of sunshine to start the day on wednesday, a bit more fairweather cloud bubbling up through the afternoon. and that cloud will thicken across northwest scotland, eventually bringing some splashes of rain, perhaps spilling more clouds across northern ireland, too. still chilly for the far north of scotland, elsewhere, the high teens — the low 20s in celsius as temperatures reacting to the sunshine, along with the pollen levels, too — and where we've got the best of the sunshine, those pollen levels will be high or very high across the grass policies and has begun now. thursday marks the summer solstice, a few changes — have to keep an eye on this area of low pressure over the continent, could produce a few showers towards the far southeast of england, and our weather front continues to sink southwards and eastwards. more cloud over the north west or northern ireland and for much of scotland. perhaps a few outbreaks of rain here and there at times — it may not be completely dry. but the best of the brightness and the dry weather will probably be for eastern areas of england — and here, temperatures away from any showers will rise to around 22 celsius. and then, we look out towards the atlantic to find our weather for the rest of the week. now, these weather fronts will be approaching, bringing outbreaks of rain into northwest scotland, northern ireland on friday morning. and then, that rain will continue to track further eastwards as we head through friday afternoon and into the evening. but lots of dry weather developing over the weekend — it will be feeling warmer, and there'll be plenty of sunshine, too. bye for now. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. vladimir putin hasjust arrived in north korea, for a meeting with kimjong—un. live pictures and senior democrats, just about to sign an executive order that will grant amnesty to illegal immigrants married to us citizens, that will help tens of thousands of people who are currently in limbo and let us listen and. �* , . . . . ., and. any fundamental change in our immigration — and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, _ and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, the _ and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, the system - and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, the system is i and. any fundamental change in our immigration law, the system is in i immigration law, the system is in place for the people were talking about today by the process is cumbersome and separates families from the current process and the spouses of us citizens develop paperwork obtained long—term legal status have to leave their families in america with no assurance that

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