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more from washington. this is a major victory for those who believe in abortion rights, so this is... this involves a drug called mifepristone, and mifepristone is part of a two—drug regimen that has been around for decades. the fda, the food and drug administration, approved it back in 2000, and it's taken by women up to ten weeks of pregnancy. it's used in the majority of abortion cases, but this group of anti—abortion doctors and organisations brought it to the supreme court, saying that there shouldn't be federal approval for this drug. and the court came back unanimously rejecting it, saying, as you mentioned, that it doesn't have legal standing. and what that basically means is that the justices are saying, "look, we get that you legally object to this, morally, ideologically, but you haven't proven any harm because none of you prescribe it, none of you use it, and therefore we aren't going to hear the merits of the case." so i think it's important to state that it's not the justices, certainly the conservative ones, making any kind of opinion on the fda's, you know, sort of...the use of the drug, the fact that they've made it easily accessible since 2016 and 2021. they're just saying to them the challenge is that you don't have the legal standing, and justice kavanaugh, one of the conservative justices who issued the opinion, quoted a very famous doctrine that was said by a former justice basically saying, "what's it to you?" and he did also go on to say that there are other avenues in which the challengers can object to mifepristone, so i think it's safe to say that anti—abortion activists will probably find another way to try and bring mifepristone to the court. let's talk to the panel and this is a small win but not as we were hearing there the end of the story, is it? ., �* , ., hearing there the end of the story, is it? ., �*, ., ., is it? no, it's not the end of the sto , is it? no, it's not the end of the story. and _ is it? no, it's not the end of the story. and i _ is it? no, it's not the end of the story, and i would _ is it? no, it's not the end of the - story, and i would encourage people to google _ story, and i would encourage people to google project 2025. the heritage foundation has this whole new contract — foundation has this whole new contract with america, if you will, if donald — contract with america, if you will, if donald trump wins, and one of the things— if donald trump wins, and one of the things they— if donald trump wins, and one of the things they want to do in addition to banning abortion is long—term ban immigration, legal or otherwise, into the — immigration, legal or otherwise, into the united states. so no, if not the — into the united states. so no, if not the end of it. there is a hard right— not the end of it. there is a hard right christian nationalist movement in the _ right christian nationalist movement in the country, and even if president _ in the country, and even if president biden wins reelection, that's— president biden wins reelection, that's a — president biden wins reelection, that's a movement that we will have to deat— that's a movement that we will have to deal with in this country i think at least _ to deal with in this country i think at least for— to deal with in this country i think at least for the next decade if not tongen _ at least for the next decade if not [on . er. , , ., at least for the next decade if not loner. , ,., ., at least for the next decade if not lower, , ,., ., , at least for the next decade if not loner. , ., , ., longer. this sort of underlines one ofthe longer. this sort of underlines one of the problems _ longer. this sort of underlines one of the problems the _ longer. this sort of underlines one of the problems the republicans i longer. this sort of underlines one i of the problems the republicans have right now, particularly around this issue. it's about articulate in a particular position on abortion that satisfies as we heard their both evangelical christians but also swing voters who put abortion rights quite far up on their list of priorities. this quite far up on their list of priorities-_ quite far up on their list of riorities. a ~ ., , ., priorities. as anthony said earlier, this is a direct _ priorities. as anthony said earlier, this is a direct result _ priorities. as anthony said earlier, this is a direct result of— priorities. as anthony said earlier, this is a direct result of donald - this is a direct result of donald trump — this is a direct result of donald trump getting _ this is a direct result of donald trump getting three _ this is a direct result of donald trump getting three pics- this is a direct result of donald trump getting three pics for. this is a direct result of donald. trump getting three pics for the supreme — trump getting three pics for the sugreme court— trump getting three pics for the supreme court during _ trump getting three pics for the supreme court during his- trump getting three pics for the supreme court during his first l trump getting three pics for the . supreme court during his first term and putting — supreme court during his first term and putting right _ supreme court during his first term and putting right wing, _ supreme court during his first term and putting right wing, well- supreme court during his first term and putting right wing, well knownl and putting right wing, well known to be _ and putting right wing, well known to be right — and putting right wing, well known to be right wing _ and putting right wing, well known to be right wing lawyers _ and putting right wing, well known to be right wing lawyers in - and putting right wing, well known to be right wing lawyers in all- to be right wing lawyers in all three — to be right wing lawyers in all three of— to be right wing lawyers in all three of those _ to be right wing lawyers in all three of those positions. - to be right wing lawyers in all three of those positions. and| to be right wing lawyers in all- three of those positions. and this is the _ three of those positions. and this is the result — three of those positions. and this is the result and _ three of those positions. and this is the result and it's _ three of those positions. and this is the result and it's exactly - three of those positions. and this is the result and it's exactly by i is the result and it's exactly by the way— is the result and it's exactly by the way what _ is the result and it's exactly by the way what the _ is the result and it's exactly by the way what the christian - the way what the christian evangelical— the way what the christian evangelical right- the way what the christian evangelical right were - the way what the christian i evangelical right were hoping the way what the christian - evangelical right were hoping for out of— evangelical right were hoping for out of donald _ evangelical right were hoping for out of donald trump. _ evangelical right were hoping for out of donald trump. so - evangelical right were hoping for out of donald trump. so they . evangelical right were hoping for| out of donald trump. so they are reaping _ out of donald trump. so they are reaping now— out of donald trump. so they are reaping now what _ out of donald trump. so they are reaping now what they _ out of donald trump. so they are reaping now what they sowed - out of donald trump. so they arel reaping now what they sowed very deiiberateix — reaping now what they sowed very deliberately. and _ reaping now what they sowed very deliberately. and now— reaping now what they sowed very deliberately. and now it _ reaping now what they sowed very deliberately. and now it turns - reaping now what they sowed very deliberately. and now it turns out| deliberately. and now it turns out to be _ deliberately. and now it turns out to be very — deliberately. and now it turns out to be very risky— deliberately. and now it turns out to be very risky for— deliberately. and now it turns out to be very risky for republicans . deliberately. and now it turns out i to be very risky for republicans and trunrp _ to be very risky for republicans and trunrp in _ to be very risky for republicans and trunrp in 2024. _ to be very risky for republicans and trump in 2024, and _ to be very risky for republicans and trump in 2024, and it— to be very risky for republicans and trump in 2024, and it one - to be very risky for republicans andl trump in 2024, and it one hears and iread— trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports — trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports that _ trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports that trump _ trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports that trump is - trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports that trump is safe - trump in 2024, and it one hears and i read reports that trump is safe to i i read reports that trump is safe to his republican _ i read reports that trump is safe to his republican backers— i read reports that trump is safe to his republican backers and - i read reports that trump is safe to l his republican backers and may have set in _ his republican backers and may have set in congress — his republican backers and may have set in congress today— his republican backers and may have set in congress today don't _ his republican backers and may have set in congress today don't push - set in congress today don't push this too— set in congress today don't push this too hard. _ set in congress today don't push this too hard, back _ set in congress today don't push this too hard, back off— set in congress today don't push this too hard, back off so - set in congress today don't push this too hard, back off so i- set in congress today don't pushl this too hard, back off so i sound reasonable — this too hard, back off so i sound reasonable and _ this too hard, back off so i sound reasonable and moderate. - this too hard, back off so i sound reasonable and moderate. is - this too hard, back off so i sound i reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for— reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for all— reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for all that. _ reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for all that. this _ reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for all that. this horse - reasonable and moderate. is a bit late for all that. this horse has i late for all that. this horse has bolted — late for all that. this horse has bolted the _ late for all that. this horse has bolted the stable _ late for all that. this horse has bolted the stable and - late for all that. this horse has bolted the stable and galloped| bolted the stable and galloped severai — bolted the stable and galloped several times— bolted the stable and galloped several times around - bolted the stable and galloped several times around the - bolted the stable and galloped i several times around the paddock bolted the stable and galloped - several times around the paddock and it's going _ several times around the paddock and it's going to _ several times around the paddock and it's going to keep _ several times around the paddock and it's going to keep on _ several times around the paddock and it's going to keep on going. _ several times around the paddock and it's going to keep on going. as - it's going to keep on going. as anthony— it's going to keep on going. as anthony sent _ it's going to keep on going. as anthony sent this _ it's going to keep on going. as anthony sent this will - it's going to keep on going. as anthony sent this will not - it's going to keep on going. as anthony sent this will not go l it's going to keep on going. as - anthony sent this will not go away. this is— anthony sent this will not go away. this is a _ anthony sent this will not go away. this is a messaging _ anthony sent this will not go away. this is a messaging issue, - anthony sent this will not go away. this is a messaging issue, though. | this is a messaging issue, though. because back to my point about unity within the republican party, of articulating a position that a vote for a republican is a vote for something specific. at the moment, it's really hard to tell where they stand on this, and they are trying to play both sides and tread a fine line but is there a danger they fall down on the wrong side of this debate? ., ,, ., down on the wrong side of this debate? ., ~' ., ,, down on the wrong side of this debate? ., ,, ., ,, ,., ., debate? you know, i think so, and i think ou debate? you know, i think so, and i think you have _ debate? you know, i think so, and i think you have to _ debate? you know, i think so, and i think you have to give _ debate? you know, i think so, and i think you have to give former- think you have to give former president— think you have to give former president trump some credit for recognising how dangerous this issue is. a recognising how dangerous this issue is a few— recognising how dangerous this issue is. a few months back, the state of alabama _ is. a few months back, the state of alabama was even wanting to ban ivf as an _ alabama was even wanting to ban ivf as an example, and the president is going _ as an example, and the president is going to _ as an example, and the president is going to have tojust as an example, and the president is going to have to just oppose the profamily stance of the republican party against banning ivf because of this sort— party against banning ivf because of this sort of. — party against banning ivf because of this sort of, like, christian right orthodoxy~ _ this sort of, like, christian right orthodoxy. so for me, i think the biden— orthodoxy. so for me, i think the biden administration did a very good 'ob biden administration did a very good job in— biden administration did a very good job in 2022— biden administration did a very good job in 2022 getting this out to the people _ job in 2022 getting this out to the people. remember in this is unfortunate but i think there is one in four— unfortunate but i think there is one in four american women above the age of 18 they— in four american women above the age of 18 they have had an abortion, and there _ of 18 they have had an abortion, and there is— of 18 they have had an abortion, and there is more of course that know someone — there is more of course that know someone that had an abortion, and so ithink— someone that had an abortion, and so i think even— someone that had an abortion, and so i think even conservative women are not going _ i think even conservative women are not going to — i think even conservative women are not going to want to see the right to their— not going to want to see the right to their bodies to the hard christian— to their bodies to the hard christian right close—ups of this is going _ christian right close—ups of this is going to _ christian right close—ups of this is going to be — christian right close—ups of this is going to be a tough situation for president— going to be a tough situation for president trump coming in the fall and i_ president trump coming in the fall and i think— president trump coming in the fall and i think democrats would do a good _ and i think democrats would do a good job— and i think democrats would do a good job of explaining this to the american — good job of explaining this to the american people.— good job of explaining this to the american people. looking at two key swin: american people. looking at two key swing states. — american people. looking at two key swing states, arizona _ american people. looking at two key swing states, arizona and _ american people. looking at two key swing states, arizona and florida, i swing states, arizona and florida, turned out there for pro—choice referenda could actually help president biden in november so clearly want to watch. and democrats clearly want to watch. and democrats clearly think this is a winning issue for them. featuring really high up on the list of priorities for some, away from things of the cost of living and the economy and also things like immigration, this is an issue. and that really place to the democrats strength here. yeah, they'll make the most of it, as anthony— yeah, they'll make the most of it, as anthony said, _ yeah, they'll make the most of it, as anthony said, they— yeah, they'll make the most of it, as anthony said, they will- yeah, they'll make the most of it, as anthony said, they will and - yeah, they'll make the most of it, i as anthony said, they will and they will be _ as anthony said, they will and they will be very— as anthony said, they will and they will be very effective _ as anthony said, they will and they will be very effective and _ as anthony said, they will and they will be very effective and efficient i will be very effective and efficient in doing _ will be very effective and efficient in doing that _ will be very effective and efficient in doing that. but— will be very effective and efficient in doing that. but they _ will be very effective and efficient in doing that. but they have - will be very effective and efficient| in doing that. but they have some bil in doing that. but they have some trig problems _ in doing that. but they have some trig problems on _ in doing that. but they have some big problems on the _ in doing that. but they have some big problems on the other- in doing that. but they have some big problems on the other side . in doing that. but they have some big problems on the other side of| big problems on the other side of the tedger, — big problems on the other side of the ledger, notably— big problems on the other side of the ledger, notably inflation - big problems on the other side of the ledger, notably inflation not. the ledger, notably inflation not coming — the ledger, notably inflation not coming in — the ledger, notably inflation not coming in as— the ledger, notably inflation not coming in as quickly— the ledger, notably inflation not coming in as quickly as - the ledger, notably inflation not coming in as quickly as they- the ledger, notably inflation not. coming in as quickly as they wanted to, still— coming in as quickly as they wanted to, stiiiabove— coming in as quickly as they wanted to, still above 3.5%, _ coming in as quickly as they wanted to, stillabove 3.5%, i— coming in as quickly as they wanted to, still above 3.5%, i think. - coming in as quickly as they wanted to, still above 3.5%, i think. so - to, stillabove 3.5%, ithink. so they— to, stillabove 3.5%, ithink. so they have plenty— to, stillabove 3.5%, ithink. so they have plenty of _ to, stillabove 3.5%, ithink. so| they have plenty of problems of their— they have plenty of problems of their own — they have plenty of problems of their own to _ they have plenty of problems of their own to deal— they have plenty of problems of their own to deal with _ they have plenty of problems of their own to deal with as - they have plenty of problems of their own to deal with as well. they have plenty of problems of| their own to deal with as well as having _ their own to deal with as well as having this — their own to deal with as well as having this issue _ their own to deal with as well as having this issue to _ their own to deal with as well as having this issue to exploit. - their own to deal with as well as having this issue to exploit. so i their own to deal with as well as| having this issue to exploit. so it 'ust having this issue to exploit. so it just reinforces _ having this issue to exploit. so it just reinforces the _ having this issue to exploit. so it just reinforces the fact _ having this issue to exploit. so it just reinforces the fact that - having this issue to exploit. so it just reinforces the fact that this i just reinforces the fact that this is a very— just reinforces the fact that this is a very difficult _ just reinforces the fact that this is a very difficult election - just reinforces the fact that this is a very difficult election to - just reinforces the fact that this| is a very difficult election to call and lucky— is a very difficult election to call and lucky to— is a very difficult election to call and lucky to be _ is a very difficult election to call and lucky to be very _ is a very difficult election to call and lucky to be very close. - is a very difficult election to call and lucky to be very close. thank ou for and lucky to be very close. thank you for now. _ and lucky to be very close. thank you for now, both _ and lucky to be very close. thank you for now, both of you, - and lucky to be very close. thank you for now, both of you, and - and lucky to be very close. thank you for now, both of you, and i i and lucky to be very close. thank i you for now, both of you, and i want argentina. now to argentina and these scenes in buenos aires overnight, shouting as protesters clashed with police outside congress after the senate narrowly approved presidentjavier milei's controversial economic reform package. demonstators, who say the measures will hurt millions of argentines, threw petrol bombs and stones. police responded with water cannon, pepper spray and rubber bullets. you may remember these images of mr milei brandishing a chainsaw as he promised to slash government spending on the campaign trail. he's since cut the cabinet in half, axed 50,000 publicjobs, suspended new public works contracts and scrapped fuel and transport subsidies. but six months in, he is still struggling to stem the country's economic crisis. annual inflation is currently close to 300%, while more than half of argentines are now living in poverty. veronica smink, a journalist for the bbc world service based in buenos aires, told us the country is divided over mr milei's policies. what happened within the senate and outside showed how polarising milei is. i mean, around half of argentines believe him when he says, "these harsh measures that i'm putting in, cutting public spending by a third, we're having a really hard time, but this is what it's going to take to make argentina great again," you know? it's his slogan. half of argentines, although they're suffering, they believe him. they have hope that things will change. but the other half, as you saw from all the protests in front of the congress, think that what he will do is destroy the state from within and this would make things just harsher for argentines. for more, we can talk tojimena blanco, research director and chief analyst at the risk consultancy verisk maplecroft. thank you for being with us on the programme. and this being seen as a major win for the president there, but it has taken a lot of work to get to this stage. it is not a done dealjust yet, and it is not without as we saw significant controversy. just trying to check whether you can hear us. i just trying to check whether you can hear us. . . . just trying to check whether you can hear us. .. ., , ., ., just trying to check whether you can hear us. .. ., y., ., . hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost ou hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost you for— hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost you for a _ hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost you for a moment. _ hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost you for a moment. going - hear us. i can hear you now, ben. i lost you for a moment. going to i lost you for a moment. going to put that question _ lost you for a moment. going to put that question to _ lost you for a moment. going to put that question to you _ lost you for a moment. going to put that question to you once _ lost you for a moment. going to put that question to you once again i that question to you once again because it's a poor and i want to hear your thoughts on this, suggesting this is a major breakthrough for the president in argentina, but has come in a significant cost. there has been a lot of time and effort to get to the stage but is not yet a done deal and also a lot of controversy the proposals. also a lot of controversy the proposals— also a lot of controversy the --roosals. �* , , , also a lot of controversy the --roosals. ~ , , ,., also a lot of controversy the --roosals. , , , proposals. absolutely. this is a big win for the president _ proposals. absolutely. this is a big win for the president because i proposals. absolutely. this is a big win for the president because as i proposals. absolutely. this is a big l win for the president because as the major— win for the president because as the major package is called, he calls it the law— major package is called, he calls it the law of— major package is called, he calls it the law of basis, and he believes this is— the law of basis, and he believes this is setting a new baseline for argentina — this is setting a new baseline for argentina to turn around its history of major— argentina to turn around its history of major economic crises, default, etc and _ of major economic crises, default, etc and start growing, attract foreign — etc and start growing, attract foreign investment, create private employment in the private sector rather _ employment in the private sector rather than in the public sector. so he has _ rather than in the public sector. so he has spent the first six months of his administration getting this through— his administration getting this through the lower house, now for the senate _ through the lower house, now for the senate. really need to wait and see how the _ senate. really need to wait and see how the house decides to consider the changes in the senate, but as we io the changes in the senate, but as we go through— the changes in the senate, but as we go through all this process, tensions— go through all this process, tensions in argentina and in buenos aires _ tensions in argentina and in buenos aires in _ tensions in argentina and in buenos aires in particular are not going to fall. aires in particular are not going to talk we _ aires in particular are not going to fall. we expect this type of situation as we saw last night to continue — situation as we saw last night to continue occurring from time to time as this _ continue occurring from time to time as this debate comes to the house and particularly as the house votes on what _ and particularly as the house votes on what the senate has changed from the original— on what the senate has changed from the original bill. gne on what the senate has changed from the original bill.— the original bill. one of his big challenges _ the original bill. one of his big challenges here _ the original bill. one of his big challenges here is _ the original bill. one of his big challenges here is to - the original bill. one of his big challenges here is to win i the original bill. one of his big challenges here is to win over| the original bill. one of his big i challenges here is to win over the public. in explaining to them that this is, in his words, a short—term bitter pill to get the economy growing again and get things back on an even keel over people who were struggling that a day, that will be little comfort, to say you have to swallow the pain abacus further down the line it will get better. they say to make it better now because their situation is so dire. absolutely, and i mean we have to remember— absolutely, and i mean we have to remember that this is a country that has nearly— remember that this is a country that has nearly 50% poverty rate, where education _ has nearly 50% poverty rate, where education levels have been continuously decreasing over the past decade, and where the informal economy— past decade, and where the informal economy is— past decade, and where the informal economy is larger than the formal economy~ — economy is larger than the formal economy. we have to think of a country— economy. we have to think of a country as— economy. we have to think of a country as mentioned earlier where inflation _ country as mentioned earlier where inflation was nearing 300% and where to date _ inflation was nearing 300% and where to date as _ inflation was nearing 300% and where to date as an example it was a major achievement for the administration that inflation posted at 4.2% for the month of may. so you can imagine a situation _ the month of may. so you can imagine a situation in _ the month of may. so you can imagine a situation in which that is a cause for celebration but people are struggling to make ends meet. sol think for— struggling to make ends meet. sol think for milei, the crucial challenge will be how long will he enjoy— challenge will be how long will he enjoy public patients for? the people — enjoy public patients for? the people who voted for him are still supporting him, but that is not going — supporting him, but that is not going to — supporting him, but that is not going to last forever. so he really needs— going to last forever. so he really needs to — going to last forever. so he really needs to be showing that the economy is turning _ needs to be showing that the economy is turning around in the second half of this— is turning around in the second half of this year— is turning around in the second half of this year as he heads into congressional elections next year. really— congressional elections next year. really good to get your thoughts on this, grateful, and it was worth persevering, thank you. let's talk to the panel about what's happening right now in argentina, and anthony i'm interested in that point of how the president there has to convince voters that stick with me, the plan is working. something we are hearing and a lot of elections around the world right now but the patience of voters in the patient to the public is pretty thin. voters in the patient to the public is pretty thin-— is pretty thin. well, listen, the argentinian — is pretty thin. well, listen, the argentinian situation _ is pretty thin. well, listen, the i argentinian situation unfortunately could _ argentinian situation unfortunately could potentially _ argentinian situation unfortunately could potentially be _ argentinian situation unfortunately could potentially be a _ argentinian situation unfortunately could potentially be a precursor i argentinian situation unfortunatelyj could potentially be a precursor for some _ could potentially be a precursor for some of— could potentially be a precursor for some of the — could potentially be a precursor for some of the g7_ could potentially be a precursor for some of the g7 countries _ could potentially be a precursor for some of the g7 countries frankly i some of the g7 countries frankly because — some of the g7 countries frankly because the _ some of the g7 countries frankly because the debt _ some of the g7 countries frankly because the debt spiral- some of the g7 countries frankly because the debt spiral in- some of the g7 countries frankly because the debt spiral in the i because the debt spiral in the united — because the debt spiral in the united states— because the debt spiral in the united states is— because the debt spiral in the united states is completely. because the debt spiral in the i united states is completely out of control _ united states is completely out of control we — united states is completely out of control. we are _ united states is completely out of control. we are at _ united states is completely out of control. we are at fallen - united states is completely out of control. we are at fallen point i united states is completely out of control. we are at fallen point in i control. we are at fallen point in spending — control. we are at fallen point in spending 6-7%_ control. we are at fallen point in spending 6-7% on— control. we are at fallen point in spending 6—7% on deficit - control. we are at fallen point in i spending 6—7% on deficit spending and of— spending 6—7% on deficit spending and of course _ spending 6—7% on deficit spending and of course with _ spending 6—7% on deficit spending and of course with interest - spending 6—7% on deficit spending and of course with interest rates i and of course with interest rates being _ and of course with interest rates being where _ and of course with interest rates being where they _ and of course with interest rates being where they are _ and of course with interest rates being where they are now, i and of course with interest ratesi being where they are now, there and of course with interest rates i being where they are now, there is and of course with interest rates - being where they are now, there is a good chance — being where they are now, there is a good chance we _ being where they are now, there is a good chance we could _ being where they are now, there is a good chance we could have - being where they are now, there is a good chance we could have a - good chance we could have a $1.5 trillion _ good chance we could have a $1.5 trillion interest _ good chance we could have a $1.5 trillion interest expense. - good chance we could have a $1.5 trillion interest expense. so - good chance we could have a $1.5 trillion interest expense. so whati trillion interest expense. so what you are _ trillion interest expense. so what you are finding _ trillion interest expense. so what you are finding you _ trillion interest expense. so what you are finding you what - trillion interest expense. so what you are finding you what i - trillion interest expense. so what you are finding you what i don't l you are finding you what i don't like about— you are finding you what i don't like about what's _ you are finding you what i don't like about what's going - you are finding you what i don't like about what's going on - like about what's going on in argentina. _ like about what's going on in argentina, they— like about what's going on in argentina, they are - like about what's going on in argentina, they are in - like about what's going on in argentina, they are in a - like about what's going on ini argentina, they are in a crisis like about what's going on in - argentina, they are in a crisis and when _ argentina, they are in a crisis and when you — argentina, they are in a crisis and when you were _ argentina, they are in a crisis and when you were in— argentina, they are in a crisis and when you were in a _ argentina, they are in a crisis and l when you were in a crisis hopefully there _ when you were in a crisis hopefully there is— when you were in a crisis hopefully there is an — when you were in a crisis hopefully there is an opportunity _ when you were in a crisis hopefully there is an opportunity there - when you were in a crisis hopefully| there is an opportunity there where they can _ there is an opportunity there where they can have — there is an opportunity there where they can have a _ there is an opportunity there where they can have a bipartisan- they can have a bipartisan commitment _ they can have a bipartisan commitment to— they can have a bipartisan commitment to healing. they can have a bipartisan. commitment to healing and they can have a bipartisan- commitment to healing and getting they can have a bipartisan— commitment to healing and getting to the other— commitment to healing and getting to the other side — commitment to healing and getting to the other side of— commitment to healing and getting to the other side of this _ commitment to healing and getting to the other side of this inflation - the other side of this inflation problem _ the other side of this inflation problem and _ the other side of this inflation problem. and so _ the other side of this inflation problem. and so what - the other side of this inflation problem. and so what i - the other side of this inflation problem. and so what i don't| the other side of this inflation - problem. and so what i don't like what _ problem. and so what i don't like what i'm — problem. and so what i don't like what in seeing— problem. and so what i don't like what i'm seeing is— problem. and so what i don't like what i'm seeing is the _ problem. and so what i don't like. what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see _ what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all— what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all around _ what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all around the _ what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all around the world - what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all around the world in - what i'm seeing is the polarity that we see all around the world in freei we see all around the world in free countries, — we see all around the world in free countries, shocking _ we see all around the world in free countries, shocking to _ we see all around the world in free countries, shocking to me - we see all around the world in free countries, shocking to me that - we see all around the world in freel countries, shocking to me that they are not— countries, shocking to me that they are not pulling _ countries, shocking to me that they are not pulling together— countries, shocking to me that they are not pulling together given - countries, shocking to me that they are not pulling together given the l are not pulling together given the state _ are not pulling together given the state of _ are not pulling together given the state of the — are not pulling together given the state of the crisis _ are not pulling together given the state of the crisis and _ are not pulling together given the state of the crisis and given - are not pulling together given the state of the crisis and given the l state of the crisis and given the data _ state of the crisis and given the data that — state of the crisis and given the data that your— state of the crisis and given the data that your reporter- state of the crisis and given the data that your reporterjust - state of the crisis and given thel data that your reporterjust gave all of _ data that your reporterjust gave all of us — data that your reporterjust gave all of us the _ data that your reporterjust gave all of us. the numbers - data that your reporterjust gave all of us. the numbers are - data that your reporterjust gave - all of us. the numbers are shocking. and in _ all of us. the numbers are shocking. and i'm wondering _ all of us. the numbers are shocking. and i'm wondering about— all of us. the numbers are shocking. and i'm wondering about the - and i'm wondering about the leadership— and i'm wondering about the leadership there _ and i'm wondering about the leadership there if _ and i'm wondering about the leadership there if they- and i'm wondering about the leadership there if they can i and i'm wondering about the - leadership there if they can create that crossover— leadership there if they can create that crossover or _ leadership there if they can create that crossover or that _ leadership there if they can create i that crossover or that post—partisan event~ _ that crossover or that post—partisan event but — that crossover or that post—partisan event but if— that crossover or that post—partisan event. but if they _ that crossover or that post—partisan event. but if they cannot _ that crossover or that post—partisan event. but if they cannot do - that crossover or that post—partisan event. but if they cannot do it - event. but if they cannot do it there. — event. but if they cannot do it there. it — event. but if they cannot do it there, it also _ event. but if they cannot do it there, it also makes - event. but if they cannot do it there, it also makes me - event. but if they cannot do it there, it also makes me thinki there, it also makes me think about what could — there, it also makes me think about what could potentially— there, it also makes me think about what could potentially happen - there, it also makes me think about what could potentially happen in - there, it also makes me think about| what could potentially happen in the g7 what could potentially happen in the 67 countries — what could potentially happen in the g7 countries. find _ what could potentially happen in the g7 countries-— g7 countries. and are there parallels? _ g7 countries. and are there parallels? if _ g7 countries. and are there parallels? if you _ g7 countries. and are there parallels? if you look - g7 countries. and are there parallels? if you look at - g7 countries. and are there i parallels? if you look at the g7 countries. and are there - parallels? if you look at the state of the argentinian economic situation right now, triple digit inflation, high debt, depleted central bank reserves in its anthony says, replicated elsewhere around the world. what makes a crisis serious enough to bring bipartisan income of the brain parties to the table and say as a country we will work out a way to get through this? putting play politics aside. taste putting play politics aside. we don't see putting play politics aside. , don't see very much of that bipartisanship, everyone coming together i'm afraid anywhere in democracy... together i'm afraid anywhere in democracy---— together i'm afraid anywhere in democracy. . . together i'm afraid anywhere in democra , , . . democracy... does it 'ust a cold war to do than _ democracy... does it 'ust a cold war to do that? yeah, — democracy... does itjust a cold war to do that? yeah, exactly. - democracy... does itjust a cold war| to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina b the wa to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina by the way on _ to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina by the way on feet— to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina by the way up feel it is _ to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina by the way up feel it is been - to do that? yeah, exactly. argentina by the way up feel it is been in - by the way up feel it is been in some form of economic chaos or crisis for decades almost. and so the patience of the argentinian people must be practically exhausted by now. and see them ticking to the streets commit we have seen riots in the streets in europe in response to bad economic news. in fact, in france is on the tradition that if the president ever tries to cut expenditure the people take to the streets. so it's not unprecedented what's happening in argentina. the problem is i see it is it's going to make it very unlikely that it could be turned around quickly. it's not like you introduce austerity measures and then three or four months later the economy starts to take off. i don't expect it to do that. and that means that people suffer through the austerity without the economy really turbo—charging away, and that makes things even more difficult. quite possible that countries have pretty much flatlined economies for a long time. for now, thank you — around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. now it's time for the panel. this is a part of the share we let our guests tell us what they want to talk about, and anthony, you have been reading. you have a few books on your list, was looking at watch out for your pride and your ego, something politicians around the world might be mindful of right now. something you might have done with before the white house, right? i before the white house, right? i don't know if can remember this, but he invited me to lunch in the british residents... {lit he invited me to lunch in the british residents... of course i do. we sat there _ british residents... of course i do. we sat there together _ british residents... of course i do. we sat there together and - british residents... of course i do. we sat there together and asked l we sat there together and asked member of the trump transition team and the thoughts are and that table where what is going to happen and he was going to fit into what slot and so forth. and i was eager to be a part of that was eager to work in the white house. my wife he probably dislikes donald trump almost as much as his own wife does did not want me to do that, and so unfortunately i did not listen to her and let my pride in my ego get the best of me and i ended up taking thejob and of course it was an infamous job for me, short—lived and i got fired after 11 days. and i do appreciate you bringing it up because i try to tell people young and old alike don't let your ego, don't let your pride get in the way of your decision—making and i certainly did that but i think ambassador derek would remember at the time of that conversation where he and i were having lunch in the residence, there was quite a high level of disorganisation in the trump transition. we really were not expecting to win, and we were very disorganised. if mr trump were to win this time, he is going to be way more organised and likely more dangerous. just more organised and likely more dangerou— more organised and likely more dancerous. , . . , , dangerous. just to be clear because ou're dangerous. just to be clear because you're reading _ dangerous. just to be clear because you're reading the _ dangerous. just to be clear because you're reading the book, _ dangerous. just to be clear because you're reading the book, your- dangerous. just to be clear because you're reading the book, your 503 l you're reading the book, your 503 before you die, this is the iliad and it talks about pride and ego. i want to talk about three things with you, a junior doctor, a goldfish in a garden laws to explain what that's all about. . ., , , ., , . all about. anthony put me to shame with a profound _ all about. anthony put me to shame with a profound point _ all about. anthony put me to shame with a profound point there... - all about. anthony put me to shame with a profound point there... we i all about. anthony put me to shame| with a profound point there... we do it all on this — with a profound point there... we do it all on this programme, _ with a profound point there... we do it all on this programme, you - with a profound point there... we do it all on this programme, you know l it all on this programme, you know that. , w' , �* it all on this programme, you know that. , w , �* ., . ., that. very quickly, ben was a junior that. very quickly, ben was a 'unior doctor in newcastle * that. very quickly, ben was a 'unior doctor in newcastle who h that. very quickly, ben was a junior doctor in newcastle who woke - that. very quickly, ben was a junior doctor in newcastle who woke up . that. very quickly, ben was a junior. doctor in newcastle who woke up one morning _ doctor in newcastle who woke up one morning and went to breakfast and noticed _ morning and went to breakfast and noticed a _ morning and went to breakfast and noticed a kerfuffle on his lot. something moving around and lots of birds circling it, and it was a barely— birds circling it, and it was a barely alive goldfish. it had somehow appeared in the middle of his lawn _ somehow appeared in the middle of his lawn. he was not near a pond or anything _ his lawn. he was not near a pond or anything he — his lawn. he was not near a pond or anything. he picked it up and quickly— anything. he picked it up and quickly put it in a plastic box that he got _ quickly put it in a plastic box that he got out — quickly put it in a plastic box that he got out of his freezer and saved it and _ he got out of his freezer and saved it and then — he got out of his freezer and saved it and then he went off to the pet shop _ it and then he went off to the pet shop and — it and then he went off to the pet shop and bought a tank for it. and he has _ shop and bought a tank for it. and he has christened it alice apparently, and he posts on twitter about— apparently, and he posts on twitter about it _ apparently, and he posts on twitter about it and this story, this heart—warming story of the saving of the goldfish alice has garnered 90 million _ the goldfish alice has garnered 90 million views. there is nothing like the brits— million views. there is nothing like the brits for feeling sympathy for any animal, even a fish. and the brits for feeling sympathy for any animal, even a fish.- any animal, even a fish. and you know what _ any animal, even a fish. and you know what it's _ any animal, even a fish. and you know what it's called _ any animal, even a fish. and you know what it's called alice's - know what it's called alice's because it's in a message to a friend in the message auto corrected its alive to its alice, and their is now known as alice. i its alive to its alice, and their is now known as alice.— its alive to its alice, and their is now known as alice. i may need that cu now known as alice. i may need that au if now known as alice. i may need that guy if donald — now known as alice. i may need that guy if donald trump _ now known as alice. i may need that guy if donald trump wins, _ now known as alice. i may need that guy if donald trump wins, i may - now known as alice. i may need that l guy if donald trump wins, i may need to live next to the goldfish of put me in contact with them.- to live next to the goldfish of put me in contact with them. thank you so much both. _ me in contact with them. thank you so much both, great— me in contact with them. thank you so much both, great for— me in contact with them. thank you so much both, great for your - me in contact with them. thank you so much both, great for your time. | so much both, great for your time. that has been the programme, i'm been times and we will see you very soon, bye—bye. hello from the bbc sport centre. i'm marc edwards. we start with cricket. england needed a big win over oman to stay in the t20 world cup, and they certainly got it. in fact, it was a record—breaking day forjos buttler�*s team with the largest win in the competition's history in terms of balls remaining. adil rashid took four wickets as they bowled out oman for a7, the fourth lowest total in the t20 world cup. mark wood and joffa archer contributing with three wickets apiece. england set about their target with gusto, and they made it injust19 balls. however, they do need another big win over namibia on saturday, and even then, it may not be enough to take them through, with scotland also in contention for second spot in the table. the netherlands may have lost their match against bangladesh, but there was a stunning catch by sybrand engelbrecht. the shot heading for the boundary before the dutchman dived to grab it. fabulous stuff there. and there's a new flintoff in town. rocky, son of former england captain andrew, has signed his first professional contract with lancashire. the batter made his debut for the club's second 11 in april, just two days after his 16th birthday. he made a half—century in his second game and followed up with a century in the next. he's also been called up to england under—19 squad. in football, euro fever continues to build as scotland prepare for their opening match against the hosts germany in munich on friday. the scottish squad have already been telling the bbc that their game faces are on ahead of this pivotal tie. they'll want to get a good start to the competition bearing in mind they've never gone beyond the group stage at a major tournament. we know it's a big game. but for us, it's the opening game. four—team section, three matches. we know what we have to do to qualify, and that is all we are focused on. the enormity of the opening game and whatever, that's a little bit of a sideshow. and hopefully we don't get too involved in that. one of the mantras i've always had is respect everyone and fear no—one. so we've come here with a lot of respect with the host nation, we know they're a good team. but hopefully on the night, we can show that we're a good team as well. england begin their campaign against serbia on sunday in gelsenkircken, and some good news out of the camp. all 26 of their squad trained today, including john stones, who was missing yesterday with illness. so a boost to gareth southgate's plans. meanwhile, conor gallagher says defeat in their final warm—up game to iceland last weekend was a real wake—up call for the whole squad to make sure they start well in germany. in tournament football, just during the first thing as well as you can, even if it's the right pass or winning your tackle, win your headers, the second ball, it's just the basics to give the whole team confidence to go and win that first game. and with the iceland game, i think, although it wasn't a good result and not the best performance, i think, in a way, it could be good that it happened, i think. i think it was a bit of a wake—up call for us that, you know, it's not easy to win games against any country. to golf, and rory mcilroy has made a strong start to the us open at pinehurst in north carolina, as he seeks his first major title in ten years. playing alongside the world number one scottie scheffler and pga championship winner xander schauffele, mcilroy has picked up three birdies. he's still on the course, two shots behind the leader to finish 5—under—par. to an opening round of 65. patrick cantlay, who birdied three of his last five holes to finish 5—under—par. emma raducanu has breezed into the quarterfinals of the nottingham open as she continues her preparations for wimbledon. she made light work of ukrainian daria snigur, dropping just four games in a 6—2, 6—2 victory. that's back—to—back wins for raducanu for the third time this year. but cameron norrie is out after a shock defeat in the second round by fellow briton jack pinnington jones. norrie only dropped one game in the opening set, but pinningtonjones went on to win in three. he'll play italian mattia bellucci in the quarterfinals. rafa nadal has confirmed he won't be playing at wimbledon next month. the two—time former champion said he was saddened to miss the championships, but he was prioritising preparations for the olympics in paris, where he will aim for a second singles gold medal and pair up with carlos alcaraz in the doubles. and that's all the sport for now. starting off with confirmation of what you probably know, so far it's been cold this month. had a lot of cloud around outbreaks of rain and quite widely temperatures of around four or five low average for the time of year. one exception in northern scotland where we had some sunny skies and also temperatures a bit above average. otherwise disappointing on thursday thanks to this area of high pressure and low pressure and rain. an area of low pressure and rain. an area of low pressure you will really get quite bored with over the next few days because it will still be on our charts through friday, saturday, sunday and still there even into monday. so looking at a stuck weather pattern with loads of showers around. looking at the weather picture friday morning, we start mild with a bit of sunshine for the east to start off with and drier weather. showers from the west from the word go and they become extensive through the day, some heavy with hail and thunder. more general outbreaks of rain for northern scotland particularly in the morning where it will also be windy and cold, to purchase 12 or 13 here. otherwise temperatures think well below average in any case, around 15—18 for most. the friday evening, for the shower is coming and going especially across western areas. might have some more general outbreaks of rain here by the end of friday night and the start of saturday, same area of low pressure with us, probably something a bit brighterfor a time with us, probably something a bit brighter for a time across western scotland by some heavier rain for eastern scotland. when speeding up across 11 counties of england with gus into the 405. that will make it feel a little on the cool side as well, and if that were not enough, for the afternoon loads of showers around with some heavy with hail and thunder and across temperature is below average forjune. little change through sunday with this time looking like we could see heavier bursts of rain working across northern ireland into northern england and scotland. showers developing everywhere with some sunny spells in between them it will be raining all day across the midlands, wales, east anglia or the south. the rich in most areas continue to run below average for the time of year. however for a couple of days next week it looks like temperatures will get closer to average but it does not last long. it turns cooler later in the week wish i was neverfar it turns cooler later in the week wish i was never far away. tonight at ten — sir keir starmer promises economic growth and stability, as he launches labour's manifesto for government. please welcome to the stage, leader of the labour party, keir starmer. applause there were no policy revelations — instead, pledges to provide consistency and steadiness after a turbulent few years. stability over chaos. the long—term over short—term. an end to the desperate era of gestures and gimmicks, and a return to the serious business of rebuilding our country. chris mason will be here with his assessment and faisal islam will be checking if labour's figures add up. also tonight... did you have any inside information when you 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