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BBCNEWS Politics June 13, 2024



family". he also talked about labour's pledges being fully funded and fully costed, and also talked about the party making hard choices if elected. plenty to unpack from the past a0 or so minutes. let's stay with his pictures of angela rayner and the shadow cabinet shaking hands with various people, including some of those speakers from the very beginning of the event. let's cross live to ione wells, who is at the launch. lots to unpack today. as i said earlier, the themes have already been out in public. we know exactly what he was going to say. but it felt to me, and i don't know if it felt to you, keir starmer is a man who is very assured about what he wants? that is right. as you say, and apologies, it is quite loud music behind me, there wasn't really any big surprises in this manifesto, and i think that was sort of the point that labour were trying to achieve today. keir starmer made _ trying to achieve today. keir starmer made a _ trying to achieve today. keir starmer made a point - trying to achieve today. lie: " starmer made a point of trying to achieve today. iie: " starmer made a point of criticising the tory manifesto for what he said was promising lots of things they could not be delivered. he also said he was not here to run a circus and took a swipe at the reform party leader nigel farage. there were not really any new big policies announced today. this was really today about setting out his stall. you can see he has got a picture of himself on it, multiple pictures of himself on it, multiple pictures of himself in the booklet itself, and the main thing he was stressing was really reiterating the changes he wants to introduced as the labour leader. introducing more nhs appointments, for example. recruiting new teachers. before he started we heard case studies of people who were making the case for why they want to do vote labour. we heard from a man who was suffering from cancer, who talked about having to wait longer than he was supposed to wait longer than he was supposed to for cancer treatment. we heard from a young man he said he was struggling with his young family in london in a very small flat with not much space for all of them to live. some case studies there of the kinds of voters keir starmer was trying to make a pitch to today. he has been facing some questions just now from journalists about whether his offer is bold enough, whether he is playing it to say. because it has been a criticism from some, even labour supporters who wanted him to be bolder when it came to things like announcing spending plans. there were a few questions afterwards about his plans for attacks and for its spending. a couple ofjournalists pointing out that the manifesto includes plans to raise £8 billion in tax, but he was very clear to underline the fact that those were including closing tax loopholes, a windfall tax on oil and gas and that vat on private school fees, underlining once again that there is taxes, national insurance, vat and income tax, would not be raised under labour. he was very clear about that. that not be raised under labour. he was very clear about that.— very clear about that. that is ri . ht. very clear about that. that is right- he _ very clear about that. that is right. he made _ very clear about that. that is right. he made the - very clear about that. that is right. he made the point- very clear about that. that is right. he made the point of. right. he made the point of including that in his speech, ruling out national insurance, income tax or vat. there is a costing document at the back of the manifesto that sets out the different policies they want to introduce and how they plan to pay for them. there are tax rises in there but they are mostly once we have already heard about, things like producing that vat, extending the windfall tax on oil and gas giants, as well as cracking down on tax evasion and also tightening up the rules on people with non—dom tax status is. a couple of things there that had already been outlined, so they were no big surprises. 0ne that had already been outlined, so they were no big surprises. one of they were no big surprises. one of the challenges sir keir starmer has been facing his repeated challenges where he will not rule out rises to capital gains tax. he didn't touch on that here. we can bejoined by the shadow health secretary, wes streeting, who was listening there with the rest of the cabinet. how do you think that went? i’m with the rest of the cabinet. how do you think that went?— you think that went? i'm really excited by _ you think that went? i'm really excited by today. _ you think that went? i'm really excited by today. this - you think that went? i'm really excited by today. this is - you think that went? i'm really excited by today. this is a - you think that went? i'm really - excited by today. this is a moment when _ excited by today. this is a moment when people were making their minds up when people were making their minds up about_ when people were making their minds up about how they vote in c labour's plan, _ up about how they vote in c labour's plan, contrasted with what they heard _ plan, contrasted with what they heard from the conservatives. this is a plan _ heard from the conservatives. this is a plan for— heard from the conservatives. this is a plan for our country that is fully— is a plan for our country that is fully costed and fully funded, promises we can keep and promises the country— promises we can keep and promises the country can afford. and i thought— the country can afford. and i thought what was best about the speech— thought what was best about the speech wasjust the thought what was best about the speech was just the hope of a brighter— speech was just the hope of a brighter future for our country, where — brighter future for our country, where it— brighter future for our country, where it is— brighter future for our country, where it is not this mismanaged decline — where it is not this mismanaged decline and doom spiral but where it is giving _ decline and doom spiral but where it is giving young people there opportunities back, giving the country— opportunities back, giving the country the nhs back, energy security— country the nhs back, energy security back, its streets back, the economy— security back, its streets back, the economy and economic growth back. this is— economy and economic growth back. this is a _ economy and economic growth back. this is a serious plan. as a sir keir— this is a serious plan. as a sir keir starmer said, this is a serious plan. as a sir keirstarmersaid, no gimmicks, no keir starmer said, no gimmicks, no rabbits— keir starmer said, no gimmicks, no rabbits out— keirstarmersaid, no gimmicks, no rabbits out of the hat, he is standing _ rabbits out of the hat, he is standing to be pro—minister of the country. _ standing to be pro—minister of the country, not standing to run a circus — country, not standing to run a circus. there are plenty of other candidates — circus. there are plenty of other candidates for the ringmaster's job. i candidates for the ringmaster's job. i really— candidates for the ringmaster's job. i really hope people look at the choice — i really hope people look at the choice on — i really hope people look at the choice onjuly the i really hope people look at the choice on july the ath and recognise that if— choice on july the ath and recognise that if you _ choice on july the ath and recognise that if you want to change our country. — that if you want to change our country, the only route to that change — country, the only route to that change is _ country, the only route to that change is choosing change, voting for change — change is choosing change, voting for change by voting for labour. there _ for change by voting for labour. there was— for change by voting for labour. there was one heckle at the start with a young person accusing keir starmer�*s policies are being too similar to the conservatives. starmer's policies are being too similar to the conservatives. some labour sunporters _ similar to the conservatives. some labour supporters want _ similar to the conservatives. some labour supporters want bolder - labour supporters want bolder action, scrapping the benefit cap, what do you say to some of those voters who might be thinking that with the post where they are they might turn to a different party this time around?— might turn to a different party this time around? , , ., ., ., time around? listen, you heard from the conservatives _ time around? listen, you heard from the conservatives this _ time around? listen, you heard from the conservatives this week, - time around? listen, you heard from the conservatives this week, they . the conservatives this week, they are desperate to tell the country that this — are desperate to tell the country that this election is sorted, labour has already— that this election is sorted, labour has already won, that you don't need to trother— has already won, that you don't need to bother going out to vote, you can put your— to bother going out to vote, you can put your feet up. in the hope that either— put your feet up. in the hope that either people do not vote or, if they— either people do not vote or, if they want— either people do not vote or, if they want to see the tories out, they— they want to see the tories out, they will— they want to see the tories out, they will vote for one of the smaller— they will vote for one of the smaller parties. they can literally say and _ smaller parties. they can literally say and promise anything because they will— say and promise anything because they will never have to deliver it. if they will never have to deliver it. if you _ they will never have to deliver it. if you want — they will never have to deliver it. if you want to see a government that really— if you want to see a government that really acts— if you want to see a government that really acts on climate change and does _ really acts on climate change and does so _ really acts on climate change and does so anyway that gives britain its energy— does so anyway that gives britain its energy security back, drives econonric— its energy security back, drives economic growth with newjobs and cut spills, _ economic growth with newjobs and cut spills, only labour can do that. if cut spills, only labour can do that. if you _ cut spills, only labour can do that. if you are — cut spills, only labour can do that. if you are a — cut spills, only labour can do that. if you are a young person who wants to get _ if you are a young person who wants to get on— if you are a young person who wants to get on the housing ladder, who wants— to get on the housing ladder, who wants to _ to get on the housing ladder, who wants to make sure you get good grades _ wants to make sure you get good grades at — wants to make sure you get good grades at school and good opportunities through apprenticeships and universities, only a _ apprenticeships and universities, only a labour government can do that _ only a labour government can do that if_ only a labour government can do that if you — only a labour government can do that. if you are one of a record number— that. if you are one of a record number of— that. if you are one of a record number of people on an nhs waiting list, number of people on an nhs waiting list. which _ number of people on an nhs waiting list, which isjust gone up today, the only— list, which isjust gone up today, the only party that is going to be able to— the only party that is going to be able to cut those lists is the labour _ able to cut those lists is the labour party. that only happens if people _ labour party. that only happens if people choose change by voting for change _ people choose change by voting for change on — people choose change by voting for change onjuly the people choose change by voting for change on july the ath. people choose change by voting for change onjuly the ath. we are not complacent. we are working hard for every— complacent. we are working hard for every vote _ complacent. we are working hard for every vote i— complacent. we are working hard for every vote. i have been knocking on doors _ every vote. i have been knocking on doors in _ every vote. i have been knocking on doors in every part of the country, there _ doors in every part of the country, there are — doors in every part of the country, there are millions of undecided voters — there are millions of undecided voters in — there are millions of undecided voters in the country at the moment. we are _ voters in the country at the moment. we are going to work hard to win those _ we are going to work hard to win those people around, and that is why today— those people around, and that is why today is— those people around, and that is why today is really important. because i want people to look at our manifesto and see _ want people to look at our manifesto and see it _ want people to look at our manifesto and see it is — want people to look at our manifesto and see it is fully costed, promises we can— and see it is fully costed, promises we can keep and promises the country can afford _ we can keep and promises the country can afford. to those people who say they wanted more on this or more on that _ they wanted more on this or more on that i_ they wanted more on this or more on that i would — they wanted more on this or more on that. iwould much they wanted more on this or more on that. i would much rather come to you in— that. i would much rather come to you in four— that. i would much rather come to you in four years' time and say we delivered — you in four years' time and say we delivered everything in here and we delivered _ delivered everything in here and we delivered more, so under promise, overdeliver, — delivered more, so under promise, overdeliver, then come back in four years' _ overdeliver, then come back in four years' time — overdeliver, then come back in four years' time and say we got a bit carried — years' time and say we got a bit carried away, we told you what we wanted _ carried away, we told you what we wanted to — carried away, we told you what we wanted to hear. we have had enough of that— wanted to hear. we have had enough of that with _ wanted to hear. we have had enough of that with the tories. this is a serious — of that with the tories. this is a serious plan, sir keir starmer is a serious _ serious plan, sir keir starmer is a serious leader and is offering the change _ serious leader and is offering the change it— serious leader and is offering the change it needs. do serious leader and is offering the change it needs.— serious leader and is offering the change it needs. do you think the labour party _ change it needs. do you think the labour party has _ change it needs. do you think the labour party has been _ change it needs. do you think the labour party has been under- labour party has been under promising?— labour party has been under ”romisin? , ., , ., , , promising? these are promises we can kee and promising? these are promises we can keep and promises _ promising? these are promises we can keep and promises the _ promising? these are promises we can keep and promises the country - promising? these are promises we can keep and promises the country can - keep and promises the country can afford _ keep and promises the country can afford are — keep and promises the country can afford. are there things on the nhs or social— afford. are there things on the nhs or social care that i would like to do? 0f— or social care that i would like to do? of course, i'm ambitious for our country. _ do? of course, i'm ambitious for our country. i— do? of course, i'm ambitious for our country. i am — do? of course, i'm ambitious for our country, i am going to work as hard as i possibly— country, i am going to work as hard as i possibly can if i am the health and social— as i possibly can if i am the health and social care secretary after the election _ and social care secretary after the election to — and social care secretary after the election to go as fast as we can to cut those — election to go as fast as we can to cut those nhs waiting lists and to modernise and reform our nhs so it is fit for— modernise and reform our nhs so it is fit for the — modernise and reform our nhs so it is fit for the future. but the most important — is fit for the future. but the most important thing given that trust is an even— important thing given that trust is an even shorter supply than money in our country— an even shorter supply than money in our country at the moment, the most important _ our country at the moment, the most important thing is that we keep to what we _ important thing is that we keep to what we say, that people canjudge us and _ what we say, that people canjudge us and hold us to account on this manifesto — us and hold us to account on this manifesto and that we cannot on people's— manifesto and that we cannot on people's doors in four or five years' — people's doors in four or five years' time at the next general election— years' time at the next general election if— years' time at the next general election if we have been in government, and say we said and we delivered _ government, and say we said and we delivered. that would be a revolutionary change from the ia years _ revolutionary change from the ia years of— revolutionary change from the 1a years of failure we have had under the conservatives. and years of failure we have had under the conservatives.— years of failure we have had under the conservatives. and keir starmer was clear to — the conservatives. and keir starmer was clear to repeat _ the conservatives. and keir starmer was clear to repeat his _ the conservatives. and keir starmer was clear to repeat his pledge - the conservatives. and keir starmer was clear to repeat his pledge not . was clear to repeat his pledge not to raise national insurance, income tax, vat. why do you think he is reluctant to change capital gains tax? ., ,., reluctant to change capital gains tax? ., , ., , reluctant to change capital gains tax? ., ,., , , ., .,, tax? the reason be singled out those taxes was because _ tax? the reason be singled out those taxes was because we _ tax? the reason be singled out those taxes was because we really - tax? the reason be singled out those taxes was because we really wanted | taxes was because we really wanted working _ taxes was because we really wanted working people to know that we get the fact _ working people to know that we get the fact that they are feeling really— the fact that they are feeling really clobbered by the tories, that even where they want to see nhs investment, if we had said to to put a penny— investment, if we had said to to put a penny on— investment, if we had said to to put a penny on national insurance, people — a penny on national insurance, people would go, "i'm just not sure i people would go, "i'm just not sure i can— people would go, "i'm just not sure i can afford — people would go, "i'm just not sure i can afford it," because times are so tough — i can afford it," because times are so tough people. we wanted to reassure — so tough people. we wanted to reassure people that their taxes are not going _ reassure people that their taxes are not going to go up. all those other taxes _ not going to go up. all those other taxes you — not going to go up. all those other taxes you mentioned, we do not need to increase _ taxes you mentioned, we do not need to increase them to deliver this manifesto. this manifesto is about getting _ manifesto. this manifesto is about getting growth back into our economy because _ getting

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