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our correspondent hugo bachega has more from jerusalem. this annual list by the un secretary general covers the killing of children in conflict and also the denial of access to aid in the targeting of schools and hospitals. it's still not clear what accusations the israeli military is facing, but this decision, if it's taken, will put more pressure on the country's authorities. unsurprisingly, there's been strong reaction from israeli officials. benjamin netanyahu said the un had added itself to the blacklist of history and he said the israeli military was the most moral army in the world. they have been reports suggesting that both hamas and islamichhad will also be added to the list and there has been reaction from the palestinians as well. a spokesman for the palestinian president told reuters that this decision was a step closer to holding israel accountable for its crimes. french president emmanuel macron has promised ukraine new weapons and fighterjets. mr macron, who's become one of kyiv�*s most staunch advocates, said france will also train ukrainian pilots and soldiers. in a joint news conference with ukrainian president volodomyr zelensky in paris, the french president said he wanted ukraine to start eu membership negotiations by the end of the month and for the country to have a quote "irreversible path" to nato membership. mr zelensky, who's been pushing western allies to provide more arms and equipment, thanked france for their support. translation: europe is still fighting for its freedom, - the future of our people remains uncertain but it is our duty as ukrainians and french and all people of europe to strive to ensure that europe should be a place of freedom and not a place of violence and hate. i have always been impressed by the way france has been treating ukraine and the ukrainian people. i would like to thank all those who since the beginning have been supporting us. you have shown interest and care for the ukrainian people, you have extended help to help us defend ourselves. president zelensky also met with his us counterpart joe biden on friday, who is in france for d—day commemorations. mr biden apologised for the months—long delay of us military aid to ukraine after it was held up in congress and said america would never walk away from ukraine. mr biden is now authorising more than $200 million in extra aid to reconstruct ukraine's electricity grid which is the target of constant russian bombardment. does anyone doubt that they would want americans to stand up would want americans to stand up against vladimir putin's aggression here in europe today? the stormed the beaches alongside their allies. does anyone believe these ranges would want america to go alone today? here in the us, the latest jobs report showed a strong uptick in hiring — defying expectations. numbers from the us department of labour released on friday show employers added 272,000 newjobs last month — over 80,000 more than expected. wages also saw some unexpected growth — rising to 4.1% over the last year. but concerns over the economy persist. consumer confidence is trending low, during a critical election year where some voters say the economy is their top concern. to intepret the report, i spoke to wendy edelberg. she was formerly in the white house council of economic advisers under the 0bama and bush administrations. she now is the director of the hamilton project at the brookings institution. thejobs report the jobs report today, thejobs report today, another massive boost to the number of jobs added. was that anticipated? it jobs added. was that anticipated?- jobs added. was that anticiated? . , , ., anticipated? it was stronger than anticipated _ anticipated? it was stronger than anticipated but - anticipated? it was stronger than anticipated but it - anticipated? it was stronger than anticipated but it is - than anticipated but it is important to understand some context around that number. 272,000 jobs on net, that sounds like, for the united states, a very, very large number, but once you understand what has been happening to immigration in the united states, it makes the number make a lot more sense. so we have enormous population growth lately, in this country, which has led to an enormous labour force growth, and that is fuelling those extraordinary increases in employment. fix, fuelling those extraordinary increases in employment. a lot ofthe increases in employment. a lot of the narrative _ increases in employment. a lot of the narrative and _ increases in employment. a lot of the narrative and rhetoric . of the narrative and rhetoric we hear around immigration, though, is people saying that it's bad, but your research as it's bad, but your research as it is good for the economy? immigration is unequivocally good to the aggregate economy, good to the aggregate economy, good for the federal budget. the economy we looked at different ways the search has affected the labour market. it is a narrow lens, i appreciate that. immigration, for example, was pressure on state and local government budgets. we put out a piece yesterday showing which states are likely building those strains. but in terms of the labour market, the surge has probably doubled the stable pace of employment growth then we can sustain without putting upward pressure on wages and prices. at upward pressure on wages and rices. �* ., , . upward pressure on wages and rices. ~ . , . ., prices. at a basic level, how does that — prices. at a basic level, how does that happen _ prices. at a basic level, how does that happen because i prices. at a basic level, how. does that happen because that people coming here, morejobs are created? in people coming here, more “obs are created?fi are created? in a steady as she noes are created? in a steady as she goes kind _ are created? in a steady as she goes kind of— are created? in a steady as she goes kind of world, _ are created? in a steady as she goes kind of world, an - are created? in a steady as she| goes kind of world, an economy grows with population growth. so more people come into the united states or more people are born, those people ultimately demand goods and services, and firms, in turn, need to hire people to provide those goods and services. we have had population growth for years and years and didn't think twice about a rising population meant a growing economy. we are getting those exact same sorts of forces, just more so in the last two years. just more so in the last two ears. , ., ., , years. the employment rate has ticked u- years. the employment rate has ticked up slightly _ years. the employment rate has ticked up slightly to _ years. the employment rate has ticked up slightly to 4.296 - years. the employment rate has ticked up slightly to 4.296 as - ticked up slightly to 4.2% as well. how is that explain? i would characterise what happened to unemployment in the may report is roughly speaking moving sideways. going up one tenth given all the forces that are buffeting the economy right now, going up a tent is not large. the number to focus on is the 272,000 in terms of net job gains in may and understanding that as much as i am saying that immigration has been boosting labour supply, thatis been boosting labour supply, that is still a little hot for what our economies can sustain. 0therjobs good qualityjobs, though? 0therjobs good quality “obs, thou~h? . , ., ., 0therjobs good quality “obs, thouh? . , . .,~' ., though? that is hard to know, particularly — though? that is hard to know, particularly if _ though? that is hard to know, particularly if you _ though? that is hard to know, particularly if you are - though? that is hard to know, particularly if you are asking i particularly if you are asking what kinds ofjobs the immigrants are taking. we are barely getting a handle on how many immigrants are coming into this country, how many people are leaving, let alone what kind ofjobs they are taking. but we saw expansions in leisure and hospitality, good wage growth in leisure and hospitality, the service sector broadly. so good jobs gains. this is a strong economy and i think it was a strong employment report. if think it was a strong employment report. if it is a stron: employment report. if it is a strong economy, _ employment report. if it is a strong economy, strong - strong economy, strong employment report, wage inflation is up 4.1% year—on—year, so why do so many feel bad about the economy? the consumer centre must —— sentiment is at its lowest. they say it is done but people are spending like they have no concerns at all. one thing goes in the direction of explaining that puzzle is that when people are responding to surveys about how they feel about their current financial conditions, they might have in mind some of they might have in mind some of the salient prices that they have seen grow, you know, at an extraordinary pace. things like food inflation, things like rent inflation. and they might be answering surveys with those of surprises in mind. however, when you look at broader measures of inflation, that is really driving what is happening to people's real purchasing power, those broad measures of inflation are not nearly as bad. and so people may be answering surveys thinking about really high levels inflation with prices that they face day in and day out but they might be spending based on, actually, pretty healthy financial resources. we saw the european central bank announced an interest rate cut this week. can we expect something similarfrom this week. can we expect something similar from the federal reserve? i something similar from the federal reserve?— something similar from the federal reserve? i think what we're seeing _ federal reserve? i think what we're seeing nose _ federal reserve? i think what we're seeing nose inflation i we're seeing nose inflation thatis we're seeing nose inflation that is too high and an economy that is too high and an economy thatis that is too high and an economy that is moderately too strong. what that means to me is that monetary policy makers need to keep interest rates higherfor a longer. that isn't necessarily — that isn't indicative of bad news. that doesn't mean we in for a hard landing. it doesn't mean i am worried about a recession on horizon. what it means is it is going to take monetary policy makers longer to bring the real economy down to a nice, stable, replicable pace of growth. and at the same time, if everything works as it is supposed to, bring inflation down to two. so given all that and what i saw with today public employment report, given what i have been seen with inflation, my guess is the next rate cut is probably a ways off. us supreme court justices released their financial disclosures friday, which revealed hefty earnings for book publishing deals, trips and concert tickets for thejudges. the report also showed previouly undisclosed trips for supreme courtjustice clarence thomas, paid for by billionaire harlan crow. thomas previously came under fire after a news report showed he had recieved numerous gifts from conservative donors. meanwhile, on the campaign trail, former president trump held a political rally on thursday in phoenix, arizona, an important battleground state for the upcoming us election. it was his first appearance since he was found guilty of 3a felony counts in new york. mr trump seized on the opprtunity to criticise presdient biden for his immigration policies. criticism that comes just days after president biden signed an executive order addressing the us—mexico border. and in france, president bidenjoined world leaders to mark the 80th anniversary of d—day, followed by a state visit with french president emmanuel macron. he also met ukranian president volodymry zelensky. the european visit is seen as a strategic move by the administration to rally us allies. a short while ago, i discussed all of this with rodney davis, former representative from illinois and hyma moore, principal at cornerstone public affairs and former director at the democratic national committee. let's start with the executive action. will that have satisfied those who have been clambouring for action on record levels of immigration coming into the united states? thank you for having me. i think it is a very strong step forward and what we have seen is that people on both sides have been saying that president biden has not done enough to mitigate immigration from mexico and other countries. so i think this is an important step. i think the president believes this will neutralise some of the conflict on the republican side, but he thinks the order will do some good to stop some of the immigration from mexico and to really allow for better policy. rodney, what do you think? will it neutralise some of the criticism? he is going to try to neutralise the criticism but the way that the biden administration concocted this executive order, i don't think it will do the trick. all biden has to do is reverse the numerous executive orders that he reversed, the donald trump had in place when joe biden was inaugurated. remember — we had historical low border crossings at the end of the trump administration. every single republican and democrat in congress and in the executive branch needs to look at what president trump did and say we need to do that if we want to actually stop what is happening at our southern border. but there would not be a need for orders and reversing orders and reversing the reversals if there was actually comprehensive immigration reform — which the parties cannot come together on, can they? they can't. i served ten years in congress and i watched republicans and democrats kill bipartisan reforms. i voted for the numerous bipartisan reforms i believe and i have said this before in your show that immigration is the new third rail of politics. do not count on our legislators to solve the problem. executive orders in the executive branch can actually help to make a dent in what we are seeing and witnessing on our southern border. the supreme court has already ruled that executive orders are ok for the president, regardless of whether it is republican or democrat to actually be executed and then that is considered somewhat above the law. president biden and the biden administration made a terrible mistake when he was inaugurated by thinking that by reversing the trump administration executive orders that they would not — that they will continue to see record low border crossings. that has not been the case, catriona. would you like to respond to that? i think some of that is true. i believe that president biden is leading with care and with his heart. some of these policies that president biden had in place, you know, did work and i think president biden did take some of those into account but here is the reality — joe biden really cares about people and is leading with care and not just rhetoric. rodney, on the issues of voters in swing states, donald trump is back on the campaign trail holding a rally in arizona and another coming up in nevada. that rally in arizona, his first since he was a convicted criminal, pending sentence — he will appeal. is there any indication that that has damaged support in any way? amazingly not. i cannot believe that donald trump seems to be the only presidential candidate in my lifetime that when convicted gets stronger poll numbers. nobody plays a victim better than donald trump. and the rally in arizona clearly shows that. hyma, court cases also featuring for the president, too. his son hunter is on trial over gun charges this week in delaware. it is unfortunate, an unfortunate time in american history that we have a former president who is going to be the nominee of one of the two major parties in this country and the president's son who — who — who unfortunately has been cast into this because so many former intelligence officials under democratic administrations lied during the last presidential election and said that hunter biden's laptop was somehow russian disinformation. if we would have just seen honesty, which is what we saw in the courtroom, when the fbi who had possession of the laptop, when it was presented as evidence, then i think hunter biden would probably be in a much different position right now rather than being a defendant in a federal court i’ooiti. hyma, what is your view on the interplay between politics and the justice system that we have seen in recent weeks, here? president biden has made it very clear that while he is the president of the united states of america, he is a father. and many of us who've had family members who sufferfrom addiction we understand what is going through. he doesn't want to politicise it. he wants his son to go through and have his day in court, he will not interfere with that, and, more importantly, we have seenjoe biden this week be a president we have seen in be an international leader, we saw him do things that presidents do and things that will push the american agenda forward. so i think this trial with hunter biden is something that is going to be playing out in the background butjoe biden is not on trial, he is being the president. we've seen the supreme courtjustices release their financial disclosures of book deals, gifts, concert tickets. does there need to be an enquiry as the democratic party are calling for? there has to be something and i don't want to get into the weeds but at the end of the day in america we expect our leaders to have some transparency, particularly when you take money from donors who are not disclosed. so i think that there has to be a little more conversation around who these justices are interacting with, and how they are interacting, and what is being paid for and how and by whom. rodney, would you like to see an ethics investigation? i don't think we need an ethics investigation because, frankly, unfortunately, we're at the most transparent era of the supreme court. remember, not too long ago, nojustice, republican or democrat, in the history of the supreme court, had to disclose any of these things. so i agree — i think we need more transparency in the supreme court. when i was in congress, i led an effort to make sure that every single expense that any member of the house of representatives actually put forth was searchable and sortable on a quarterly basis. i wish the senate and the executive branch and the supreme court would follow the same rules. a new report by researchers at the university of california los angeles claims more than 50,000 people have died prematurely from wildfire pollution in california over a span of 10 years. the data from 2008 to 2018, shows inhaling tiny pollutants from the smoke is linked to serious health problems and more than $430 billion in health expenses. wildfires have increased in the us state in recent years as climate change leads to hotter and drier conditions. let's talk some more about this. live now to our correspondent peter bowes in los angeles. peter, talk us through the findings from this report, specifically the significant number of premature deaths. these people are just statistics but loved ones, as well. .., , statistics but loved ones, as well. , �* , statistics but loved ones, as well. , ~ , ., well. of course. and it is a hue well. of course. and it is a huge number, _ well. of course. and it is a huge number, isn't - well. of course. and it is a huge number, isn't it? - well. of course. and it is a i huge number, isn't it? more than 50,000. i think this report certainly highlights an issue that many people perhaps didn't realise — the impact of these fires, yes it can be immediate with the loss of property and tragically some people die, but the impact over the following years and perhaps even decades. this is a study, as you say, that focused on te

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