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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Breakfast 20240605



cash may no longer be king, but the king is now on the cash. from today, banknotes featuring charles iii go into circulation, making him only the second monarch ever to appear on them. good morning from portsmouth, i good morning from portsmouth, lam atone _ good morning from portsmouth, lam atone of— good morning from portsmouth, lam atone of the — good morning from portsmouth, lam at one of the locations that troops used _ at one of the locations that troops used to— at one of the locations that troops used to board landing craft that would _ used to board landing craft that would take them to modern —— normandie. dry in the south, brisk winds— normandie. dry in the south, brisk winds in— normandie. dry in the south, brisk winds in the — normandie. dry in the south, brisk winds in the west. all the details laten _ it's wednesday, the 5th ofjune. our main story. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have clashed on taxes, the nhs, immigration and the cost of living in theirfirst general election debate on itv. the labour leader challenged the prime minister over hospital waiting lists, whilst rishi sunak took aims at labour's spending plans. political correspondent iain watson reports. the first debate of the campaign was a head—to—head clash between the prime minister and the man who wanted to replace him. if you're still wondering about the key messages they want to hammer home at this election, wonder no longer. this election is all about a choice — more of the chaos and division we've seen for the last 1a years, or turning the page and rebuilding with labour. no—one knows what labour would actually do. but you know what i would do. i'll cut your taxes, protect your pension, and reduce immigration. last night, the party leaders faced questions not from members of parliament, but members of the public. i in the last few years, i found it. very difficult to make ends meet, and the money simply doesn't go far enough _ paula from huddersfield wanted to know what they'd do about the cost of living. to know what they'd do my priority has always been to do what i can to support you. that started with bold action like the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently my clear plan to bring inflation back to normal. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say — having heard what you're going through — that the plan is working, it's all all right. but in discussing serious issues — such as nhs waiting lists — there were still some lighter moments. waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. both men were asked if they would raise taxes to help meet the many challenges the country faces. but, repeatedly, rishi sunak asserted that labour would have to put taxes up. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that's just the start, because there's a long list of other things that he needs to find the money for. so it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2,000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what's happened here is it's a classic — they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false read—out. the new reform uk leader nigel farage says he wants to make this an immigration election — he'll be one of seven leading party representatives taking part in a bbc debate later this week. but last night, divisions between the main two parties in this issue were obvious. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause. ..putting some of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel. they're making a fortune. 0k... what are you going to do? just tell everybody. let's... what are you going to do? and rishi sunak was asked if he was prepared to leave the european convention on human rights. but if i am forced to choose between securing our borders and our country's security or a foreign court, i'm going to choose our country's security every single time. applause. if i'm prime minister, we will not pull out of international agreements and international law which is respected the world over. applause. but the debate wasn't over yet. afterwards, in the crowded spin room, party representatives tried to get voters to see their leaders' performance in the best possible light, and to cast shade on their opponents. what they cannot answer is how they will plug the £71 billion hole in their own tax and spending plans. in fact, like tory britain, the lights have just gone out — this is a metaphor for the state of the country. what has he actually said? i what has he committed to? what is he going to do? because every single i answer is looking back, is having a go, or, "well, what about liz truss?" i we're past that now — l this is about the future. if you haven't made up your mind who to vote for yet, well, there are more debates to come, and — oh, yes — another month of campaigning. iain watson, bbc news. we'rejoined now by our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman. you were watching it all. looking at the headlines, some strident language. feisty rishi, kapow. this is a general election where _ rishi, kapow. this is a general election where it _ rishi, kapow. this is a general election where it is _ rishi, kapow. this is a general election where it is plausible l election where it is plausible control of government could switch from one party to another for the first time in 14 years and for rishi sunak you could see he knew his job was on the line and he came out swinging against keir starmer. a lot of interruptions. flashes of anger, frankly. but i think his team will be looking at those headlines this morning and think that worked because he showed his desire to keep the job and speaking to conservatives, one thing they wanted him to show was for candidates knocking on doors, they wanted a morale boost and having rishi sunak showing he was fighting hard, they think it will provide a morale boost. from keir starmer�*s point of view, he has a big lead in the polls. they will be happy he landed key messages, talking about 14 years and trying to tie rishi sunak to his predecessor's records. in a format like that you have to go through a lot of subjects and it is a lot for viewers to take in so i imagine politicians want one message to be drilled home and you could argue what we heard over and again was the £2000 tax hike. cheer what we heard over and again was the £2000 tax hike.— what we heard over and again was the £2000 tax hike. over and again. what did it mean? — did it mean? right or wrong? it was amazing how rishi sunak diverted almost any question and answer to that tax point. ifound myself question and answer to that tax point. i found myself laughing question and answer to that tax point. ifound myself laughing when a question about national service became about tax. rishi sunak wanted to land a political attack which was he claimed labour will put up taxes by £2000 for each household and that comes from a figure the conservatives claim is a hole in labour's spending plans. they say there are £40 billion across the board they have not accounted for and they say if you divide it by every household in the country where one is in work you get a £2000 figure. the figure was generated by civil servants in the treasury. but it was generated by civil servants on the basis of assumptions provided by the conservative party and those assumptions, a lot of people not just labour would say are pretty out there. for example, one where you get the figure is by the conservative saying to the treasury if stuff is done by the private sector, it will be 7.5% more efficient than the public sector. even the treasury civil servants producing calculation and said we are not sure about that figure. labour say this figure is just nonsense. they were frustrated keir starmer did not [and that lying quickly in the debate but i think we will hear labourfast quickly in the debate but i think we will hear labour fast out of the traps today saying not true. we will seak traps today saying not true. we will s - eak to traps today saying not true. we will speak to representatives _ traps today saying not true. we will speak to representatives from - traps today saying not true. we will speak to representatives from the i speak to representatives from the main parties later. but the bbc will host a debate between leading figures from the seven biggest political parties in great britain on friday. you can watch from 7.30 on friday. you can watch from 7.30 on bbc one and iplayer. in other news — two people have been arrested after the leader of reform uk, nigel farage had a drink thrown over him whilst campaigning at clacton in essex. police say a 25—year—old woman has been arrested on suspicion of assault. separately, a man was detained on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker. the liberal democrats say they will provide regular mental health mot checks for those at high risk of developing conditions such as anxiety and depression if they took office. their plan would see an additional £70 million a year invested in talking therapies by the end of the next parliament, which is funded by a clampdown on tax evasion. several major hospitals in london have declared a critical incident following a cyber—attack. operations were cancelled and emergencies diverted elsewhere. our reporter is outside saint thomas' hospital. it meant a lot of disruption. what is the latest? _ it meant a lot of disruption. what is the latest? this _ it meant a lot of disruption. what is the latest? this is _ it meant a lot of disruption. what is the latest? this is a _ it meant a lot of disruption. what is the latest? this is a stark - is the latest? this is a stark example of how a cyberattack on the health service can have a direct impact on patients. it targeted an it company that provides pathology services for a number of london hospitals and gp surgeries, such as blood transfusions and test results, things are crucial to life—saving care. it meant a number of operations have been cancelled and some have been diverted elsewhere. the nhs says the attack is having a significant impact on the delivery of services at saint thomas' and also guy's hospital, royal brompton, and a children's hospital. oliver was minutes away from going into theatre before being told his operation was not going to happen. i was initially dumbfounded, i suppose. and then upset and angry about it, because of the delay and when you have been sitting there since the crack of dawn, waiting to have open heart surgery, however calm i try to feel, you still get a bit nervous. calm i try to feel, you still get a bit nervoue— calm i try to feel, you still get a bit nervous. , , ., ., ., bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack where _ bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack where hackers _ bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack where hackers gain - bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack where hackers gain access. bit nervous. this is a ransom warel attack where hackers gain access to data, _ attack where hackers gain access to data, withhold it and lock it before demanding some sort of payment for the data _ demanding some sort of payment for the data to _ demanding some sort of payment for the data to be handed back. the conwany— the data to be handed back. the company says it is still trying to understand what happened. what is not clear— understand what happened. what is not clear is— understand what happened. what is not clear is how long the attack will last. — not clear is how long the attack will last, how long it will take before — will last, how long it will take before the services get back to normal — before the services get back to normal. the nhs says emergency systems— normal. the nhs says emergency systems are operating as normal and if you _ systems are operating as normal and if you need _ systems are operating as normal and if you need to call 999, do so. and if you need to call 999, do so. and if you _ if you need to call 999, do so. and if you have — if you need to call 999, do so. and if you have an operation scheduled to turn— if you have an operation scheduled to turn up— if you have an operation scheduled to turn up unless told otherwise. results from india's general election show an alliance led by the prime minister, narendra modi has won enough seats to form the next government. but his party has failed to secure a majority on its own. he won farfewer he won far fewer seats than the last election. he has dominated politics for more than a decade. more than 640 million people voted in a marathon seven week collection. the first minister of wales, labour's vaughan gething, will face a vote of no confidence in the senedd this evening. opposition parties have raised a number of concerns about mr gething, including why he accepted a donation from a millionaire who had convictions for illegally dumping waste. the first minister says he is confident of winning the vote. asda is the most expensive supermarket for fuel according to research. it shows asda supermarket was over 2p more per litre on average than tesco, morrisons and sainsbury at the end of last month. average prices for diesel were steeper at 2.5 p more per litre. the family of rob burrow have visited headingley stadium to read tributes left to the leeds rhinos legend. rob's wife lindsey and their children took in the thousands of messages that have been left by supporters and well wishers. rob died on sunday at the age of 41, four and a half years after being diagnosed with motor neurone disease. tomorrow marks the 80th anniversary of d—day — when thousands of british, commonwealth and allied troops landed on the normandy coast. this morning, jon is in portsmouth where commemorations are due to get under way. good morning. tell us what we can expect am undoubtedly a very moving, poignant two days of commemorations. indeed. good morning. good morning from southsea common. exactly 80 years ago today, portsmouth was the headquarters and the main departure point for the military and naval units heading across the channel to sword beach on the normandy coast. and this morning this specialty built arena, just yards from the shore, will host royalty, politicians, military top brass, but crucially d—day veterans and theirfamilies — for a spectacular and poignant show in memory of that day injune 1944. that morning, troops who'd been camped in the woods just outside portsmouth. they emerged and clambered into waiting boats — to begin theirjourney across the channel. they had planned and practised in secret. but now it was real — they were about to embark upon the most ambitious, audacious military operation imaginable — operation overlord, or d day. the normandy landings are still the largest seaborne invasion we've ever seen — a turning point of the second world war. last night, i was here as the final rehearsals took place for the very special ceremony youlll be able to watch on bbc one later this morning. tim explains about the next couple of days. i thought you might like to see one or two things that we have from my grandfather, king george vi. first—hand accounts of d—day are precious and increasingly rare. tonight, the king and queen will be seen hosting d—day veterans at buckingham palace, listening to their stories. yes, i spoke to montgomery when i was in normandy. did you? and to churchill. newsreel: d-day has come. early this morning, the allies began the assault on the northwestern... this is the day and this is the hour. the sky is lightening. in whitsand bay in cornwall, royal marine commandos have been practising amphibious landings. tomorrow morning, they'll be landing on beaches in normandy to mark the moment when, 80 years before, the first of the more than 150,000 allied troops went ashore on d—day. this morning, at 11am, on southsea common in portsmouth, the ministry of defence will host the uk's first major national commemorative event marking the 80th anniversary. the king, the queen and the prince of wales are all due to attend. to the north of portsmouth is southwick house, where d—day was planned and overseen by allied commanders. veterans have been gathering there this week to reflect on the role they played. marie scott was a 17—year—old radio operator relaying crucial information to those landing in normandy. i could hear machine gunfire. cannon. bombs. and shouting. and screaming. you realise, my goodness, these young men are placing their lives on the line. i can see france, the outline of france and hear these shells. it made me realise we were in a war. it wasn't an exercise or rehearsal or training — we were there and anything can happen — and i was scared. many veterans have now crossed the channel to attend tomorrow's commemorative events at the british normandy memorial in ver—sur—mer. poignant and powerful, a chance for all of us to remember and say thank you. tim muffett, bbc news. it really is going to be a very special couple of days. dame helen mirren will host the ceremony here on bbc one on this special stage. military bands will be here. we will see and hear from veterans, military bands will be here. we will see and hearfrom veterans, some military bands will be here. we will see and hear from veterans, some of their letters they sent to their families will be played to the ground. carol's at south parade pier. just along the coast from here, where many servicemen boarded the landing craft that would take them to normandy nearly 80 years ago. good morning. good morning. this good morning. this is good morning. this is the good morning. this is the original good morning. this is the original this is the origir pier. good morning. this is the original pier. the pier the troops would have seen before they set off for normandy. others were built alongside this using scaffolding, just to speed up the process. looking across the beach this morning, it is calm. people out walking their dogs. the weather is calm. it is cold, mind you. idiots poignant to think what happened eight years ago and to think how those troops must have felt watching the beach disappear as they crossed over towards normandy. i mentioned it was a cold start this morning. the forecast for us all today is sunshine and scattered, blustery showers. we will not all see the showers. we will not all see the showers. they will be most frequent in the north and we start with fog in the north and we start with fog in northern ireland and around the home counties. that will live. a chilly start to the day if you have not been out. a lot of sunshine across many areas. we have a weather front across scotland producing rain. behind that, sunshine and showers. some will be heavy and thundery. further south, showers. some will be heavy and thundery. furthersouth, looking at fewer showers and sunshine. it will feel cold in the brisk wind across the north west. top temperatures ranging from 10—17 north to south. the average at this time is roughly between 15—20 north to south. tonight, a weatherfront between 15—20 north to south. tonight, a weather front comes between 15—20 north to south. tonight, a weatherfront comes into the north of scotland introducing rain. another comes in across wales, cheshire, lincolnshire, introducing rain. another cold night but generally the wind will ease overnight. tomorrow we start with cloud sinking south across england and wales which will clear. for many, a day of sunshine and showers. most of the showers in the north of scotland, especially the north—west accompanied by a brisk wind. wintry showers above 700 metres in scotland. temperatures tomorrow up to 18, possibly19. a scotland. temperatures tomorrow up to 18, possibly 19. a pleasant start. back to you. thank you. poignant what you were saying about what was going through the minds of the lads going through the minds of the lads going down to the beach and boarding the boats 80 years ago. yesterday morning, if you are watching, you might have seen surviving veterans, some of them over 100, took that journey again, leaving on a ferry heading to normandy for a special service of commemoration. that will take place mainly tomorrow but on board the ferry was john take place mainly tomorrow but on board the ferry wasjohn maguire. for the veterans making the crossing from portsmouth yesterday, there was a full programme of activities. oh, i enjoyed it. the food was brilliant. yes! breakfast, lunch, coffee, more coffee. not enough calvados — yet. plays last post. among the obvious celebration and camaraderie, though, there was time for reflection, time to remember. a wreath was thrown into the sea just off the normandy coast in memory of all those who died in the water before making landfall — the land they had been sent to liberate. i felt sorry for all them poor devils who all lost their life. and it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be here. so we're very appreciative of what they did for us all. and still, to my dying day, i will treat them as the most wonderful heroes. many were my shipmates. but, nevertheless, they gave their lives for this country. the veterans�* visit for these men, all aged in their late 90s or older, is full of symbolism. arriving in the french port of ouistreham, what was designated as part of sword beach on d—day, they handed over the torch of commemoration. their stamina is incredible. the men are determined to see as many places and meet as many people as possible. sometimes, trying to extract themselves from adoring crowds to keep moving is half the challenge. last night, they were invited to a special reception by the mayor of caen, a city that saw fierce fighting between the nazi occupation force and the allied liberators. they want to honour the veterans and to preserve their legacy. every year, it breaks our heart, because they are very happy to be here and times... and, sometimes, their memories come back and you can see the emotions. they all tell the children that we have very vivid memories from what happened 80 years ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one veteran told me, they feel it's their duty, because they're the ones who were lucky enough to survive. john maguire, bbc news, normandy. normandy will be the focus tomorrow and we will have coverage with charlie who will be there tomorrow. today, the british side of the channel and the event here in the arena. our correspondent charlotte gallagher is with us. the king, the queen, the prince of wales attending. it queen, the prince of wales attending-— queen, the prince of wales attendinu. , attending. it will be some event. it reall is. attending. it will be some event. it really is- you _ attending. it will be some event. it really is. you imagine _ attending. it will be some event. it really is. you imagine the - attending. it will be some event. it really is. you imagine the king - attending. it will be some event. it really is. you imagine the king was keen to be here. we have not seen him out and about as much since his cancer diagnosis but today was important. he is the patron of the normandy trust. he has been meeting veterans. they have been sharing memories with him. he has shared memories with him. he has shared memories of his grandfather, who was king at the time, of d—day. we expect him to meet more veterans in portsmouth. then he will travel to normandy. it will be his first overseas trip since his cancer diagnosis so a full schedule for the king but obviously this was incredibly important to commemorate those achievements eight decades ago and importantly remember the sacrifices eight years ago. some of the veterans _ sacrifices eight years ago. some of the veterans will _ sacrifices eight years ago. some of the veterans will be _ sacrifices eight years ago. some of the veterans will be here. - sacrifices eight years ago. some of the veterans will be here. a - sacrifices eight years ago. some of| the veterans will be here. a special day for them. thank you. let me run through what you need to know if you plan to watch these events. at 11 o'clock, the ministry of defence will host the uk's national commemorative event here in portsmouth. veterans, the king and queen and members of the public will be among the guests. you can watch the event live on bbc one from quarter past ten this morning. and tonight at 8.30, you can watch a special vigil, live at the bayeux war cemetery in normandy. a lot more to come from here and from sarah. it's time for news, travel and weather where you are. hello, and a very good morning from bbc london, i'm alice salfield. some of london's biggest hospitals are dealing with the consequences of a cyber attack which led to thousands of operations and blood transfusions being cancelled. king's, guy's and st thomas's, the royal brompton and the evelina children's hospital have all declared a critical incident. a company called synnovis that provides pathology services was the target of the attack, which also affected gp surgeries. nhs officials say they're working with the national cyber security centre to understand exactly what happened. there'll be two outcomes that they're going to look to try and do. number one is just get the business back up and running again — the sooner they can do that, the sooner that they can get that flow of blood products into the nhs that's so desperately needed. at the same time, there's going to be a bit more of a sort of an understanding and investigation of what happened. a phone—snatcher who used an electric motorbike to steal from people has pleaded guilty to theft, according to city of london police. 28—year—old sonny stringer, from islington, stole 24 phones before evading police by driving at nearly 50 miles per hour through london. officers were eventually able to use the city's camera network to catch him. if you're wearing headphones, you know, if you've got airpods, make sure you've got, like, transparency mode — you can hear what's going on around you — and just being a bit savvy of what you're doing, even if it's just checking up around you. because these bikes, they're electric bikes and you don't hear them — they're completely silent. and when you're in your own world, you're not going to notice anyone coming up round you. a running club that received funding from pride in london says it wants to "highlight the issues in sports for trans and nonbinary runners". it's using the funding to host a new event — known as the queer running club — it'll hold 5k and 10k races in hackney next month. let's take a look at the tubes now. some issues on the piccadilly line — severe delays acton town to uxbridge, with minor delays from acton town to heathrow. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it's a chilly but bright start this morning. yesterday's cold front cleared overnight. this was sunrise earlier on — barely any cloud to speak of. so plenty of sunshine around first thing, one or two mist and fog patches for the home counties this morning, but the cloud is going to bubble up. it does bring the chance of an isolated shower. not quite as blustery as yesterday, but temperatures certainly cooler — 17 celsius, the maximum. then overnight tonight should be dry with some clear spells to start with, but then we'll start to see a bit more cloud just edging in from the northwest through the early hours into tomorrow morning. that brings the chance of a shower. the wind drops, minimum temperature six celsius. now high pressure at least starts to try and build in from the west through the course of thursday. we will see some showers for the morning, but that should start to clear — dry for the afternoon. sunny spells, patchy cloud, temperatures tomorrow sneaking up a little to 18 celsius. further through this week, we're never far away from a shower, but plenty of dry weather, some sunshine. temperatures still below average, but recovering a little by the end of the weekend. that's all from me for now. you can get the latest on the bbc news app. i'll be back in around half an hour's time — until then, it's back to sarah. bye— bye. hello, this is breakfast with sarah campbell. jon with sarah campbell. is in portsmouth. let's take a look at today's papers. with sarah campbell. many lead with the first leaders' debate last night between labour's sir keir starmer and prime minister rishi sunak of the conservatives. the i newspaper described the contest as an "angry tv clash". the times highlights a snap poll by yougov which found that voters were evenly split over who won the debate, with 51% saying sunak edged it, while 49% gave it to starmer. the guardian also lead on the main party leaders' first face—off, describing it as an ill—tempered debate as starmer and sunak clashed on migration, tax and the nhs. and the front page of the daily telegraph focuses on starmer�*s stance on tax, describing him as "on the ropes". we will have plenty more discussion on the debate last night. as the uk election campaign continues we want your help in how we cover it. this week, the bbc launched your voice, your vote so you can tell us the issues that matter to you. and throughout the campaign, bbc news analysis editor ros atkins will be looking through the comments and questions you send in — and doing his best to answer them. through the election campaign, bbc news is asking you to let us know which issues you'd like us to explain, and you're keeping us on our toes. already we've received thousands of questions. some are about party manifestos. a number of you — including luke in dartford — have asked, "do you know when the manifestos will be released ? " well, luke, not yet. the manifestos could be launched next week, but aside from the 13th ofjune for plaid cymru, we don't have the dates confirmed yet. for context, at the last general election, in 2019, the labour manifesto was launched three weeks before polling day, the conservatives' followed three days later. right now, we're just over four weeks away from polling day. now, francisco in tyne and wear highlights the unexpected timing of this election and asked, "are parties ready to publish their manifestos? " now, of course, rishi sunak knew about this election before everyone else, and already several conservative manifesto announcements have been made. labour has also unveiled a pledge card with six key policies that will be in its manifesto. and the liberal democrats, the snp and other parties have made policy announcements, too. so work on the manifestos is well under way. now, this next question is coming up a lot, too. well, those promises won't be legally binding — we can't be sure they'll happen — but politically they do matter. as the institute for government points out, parties will frequently refer to their manifesto commitments or mandate while working to deliver policy. there's also a convention that policies based on manifestos are not blocked by the house of lords, giving further weight to these promises. and failing to keep manifesto commitments can bring political risk. as the conservatives campaign, critics are highlighting that several key promises from the conservatives' manifesto in 2019 haven't happened. responding to this, the government points to unexpected events such as covid, and the war in ukraine. and here's one further question from carly — who asks, "is there a place where someone can easily read the parties�* manifestos? " well, carly, the answer to that is yes — not least here at bbc news. once the manifestos are published, our website will have summaries of them, and links if you want to read them in full. thanks very much indeed to all of you who've sent questions — do keep them coming. if there's an election issue you'd like us to explain, you can reach us on the bbc news app or via bbc.co.uk/news. we have got representatives from the labour party and conservatives and i will ask them when those manifestos will ask them when those manifestos will be made public because clearly people want to know. it is time for a little chat about sport. john is on the sofa. you might be aware that there are outstanding charges against manchester city, over 100, for breaking the premier league financial reels. manchester city have really hit back in many ways, bringing legal action of their own against the premier league, the league they havejust against the premier league, the league they have just won for an unprecedented fourth time, in which they aim to argue that essentially rules governing sponsorship arrangements between clubs and commercial deals within the premier league are unfair, discriminatory. this case will be heard on monday. it points to real infighting within the premier league at the moment. complicated issue.— the premier league at the moment. complicated issue. usually and could have a real impact _ complicated issue. usually and could have a real impact on _ complicated issue. usually and could have a real impact on those - complicated issue. usually and could have a real impact on those charges, which are outstanding against manchester city at the moment. good morning. it's unprecedented — the recently crowned champions bringing legal action against the league they've just won, with a row brewing at the top of english football. at the heart of it, a dispute over sponsorship deals which clubs strike with businesses linked to their owners. the times newspaper has reported it's seen a document in which city claim they are victims of "discrimination", and that the rules "stifle" their success on the pitch. last month, city became the first club in english football history to win the league title in four consecutive seasons. this case will be heard on monday. we all know the men's european championship is just around the corner. last night, england women secured a huge win in their bid to qualify for the next tournament in 2025. england beating france last night, while scotland, wales and northern ireland were all looking to build on their impressive starts — asjo currie reports. england arrived in st etienne with a point to prove. a wobbly start had left their campaign wavering, but in a half—empty stadium, it was a small group of lioness fans who could be heard loudest. and it was the visitors who fired the first warning shot — the goalkeeper, though, equal to it. but even she couldn't keep up this thunderbolt, as georgia stanway took aim and fired. like an arrow. her side in front. confidence high — and we haven't said that in a while — england continued to attack. russo timing her run perfectly and heading the lionesses into a 2—0 lead. a change of ends, though, brought about a change of fortunes. the captain at fault as the referee pointed to the spot. penalty easily dispatched, was this france's invitation back into the game? well, they certainly tried, but hannah hampton kept the door shut. a significant win — england's first in france since 1973 — and qualification in their own hands. and it was some night for scotland's martha thomas as she scored four goals in her side's 5—0 win over israel. the match was played in budapest and behind closed doors due to security concerns. that victory keeps scotland at the top of group b2. wales thought they'd claimed a 2—1win away to ukraine whenjess fishlock unleashed the spectacular to put them in front. but the home side equalised in the 97th minute to ensure the points were shared. and northern ireland remained third in b3. despite going ahead in portugal through lauren wade, they conceded twice before the break to suffer a 2—1 defeat. jo currie, bbc news. the weather proved to be the winner in barbados as england and scotland's opening match at the t20 world cup was abandoned because of rain. michaeljones hit 45 for the scots, who only managed ten overs in a rain—interrupted innings, and finished up on 90 without loss. but the poor weather wouldn't go away, and when the rain fell during the innings break the match was abandoned, and the points shared. there'll be a new name on the men's singles trophy at the french open this year, after defending champion withdrew because of injury. the australian open champion is into the final four. djokovic�*s withdrawal could open the door for the wimbledon champion carlos alcaraz to win his third grand slam. he's also into the semi finals after beating stefanos tsitsipas in straight sets. nobody looks like stopping iga swiatek. the defending women's champion eased into the semi finals — beating the wimbledon champion marketa vondrousova in just over an hour. that is all the sport. let's head back to jon in that is all the sport. let's head back tojon in portsmouth ahead of the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings. you are talking about rain in barbados and here on the south coast of england it is a beautiful morning. the sun is out, the sky is blue and it is shining down on this arena, which has been built to commemorate d—day, 80 years on, and to celebrate those d—day heroes. some of those veterans will be here in person for this very special moment today. carol will have the weather in a moment. the weather was crucial on d—day but we will run you through some of the events over the next few days because it is notjust today. the bbc marking d—day landings right across tv on bbc tv, iplayer, radio and bbc sounds. later this morning, the ministry of defence will host the uk's national commemorative event here at southsea common in portsmouth. veterans, the king and queen and thousands of members of the public will be among the guests. you can watch the event live on bbc one from 10:15. tonight at 9.00, the commonwealth war graves commission will host a vigil at the bayeux war cemetery in normandy. you can watch the event live on bbc one. tomorrow morning at 6.25, a british army piper will play a lament on the beaches of arromanches in normandy to mark 80 years to the minute that d—day began. we'll bring that to you live on breakfast tomorrow. and from 8.30 tomorrow, the king and the prime minister willjoin veterans for the first—ever national commemoration at the british normandy memorial in ver—sur—mer. it was a campaign to have it built, we have covered it on breakfast over the last few years and it is now completed and some of the veterans will be there tomorrow to commemorate that significant day 80 years on. carol will have the weather forecast in a moment, but 80 years ago the weather report played a vital role in d—day, determining whether it went ahead, whether it took place, and determine the success of it. matt taylor reports. newsreel: heading out to sea after a 24-hour delay - because of the weather. it was one of the most crucial weather forecasts of all time. the lives of more than 160,000 troops relied on it and it could determine the outcome of the war. months and years of waiting were over. in 1944, three forecast units — two british and one american — fed information back to southwick house, near portsmouth. and it was this man, group captainjames stagg, responsible for advising the military. it was really difficult to go into that room and see poor general eisenhower with his head on one side and he's just staring, waiting to to hear what the forecast would be. staring, waiting to hear what the forecast would be. because, normally, we had got accustomed to him being such a bright and a spritely man, going about with a broad grin as if he were almost a gymnastic instructor. 80 years ago, unlike today, there was very little technology available to help. our supercomputer today does 14,000 trillion calculations every second, and we feed millions upon millions of bits of data into that supercomputer every day, as well. back in stagg's day, a handful of observations across the atlantic. the pressure of forecasting even one day ahead, whereas now, these current circumstances, with the advances of technology, we can forecast several days ahead. so, catherine, what are these? so these are the original weather maps from the d—day period. and these take us through the 4th ofjune, where they were making the decision on whether they could invade on the 5th, and then the 5th ofjune, when they were finding the weather window to invade on the 6th. now we know the american forecasters and eisenhower wanted to go in the 5th. this is from the british met office, isn't it? yes. what did they spot that made them decide that, no, we shouldn't go on the 5th. so if we have a look at the chart for the 5th, you'll see they got the forecast absolutely right because there's a weather front sitting smack in the english channel there, which brought all of those conditions that they were talking about. and quite tight isobars, as well, so it would have been very, very unpleasant conditions for trying to cross the channel. but, also, this weather chart, one o'clock in the morning on the 5th ofjune... yes. ..was the one that they used to try to identify the weather window, which would enable them to invade on the 6th. it was very marginal. it was just about good enough to go. stagg, the forecaster, always knew it would be marginal, but it was really very marginal. but in the end, that marginal forecast helped with the element surprise and a tactical success. absolutely, yes. now, the germans had their own weather team. did they not spot that, as well? they hadn't broken the allied codes. so they've got literally half the amount of data that the allied forecasters had. so they didn't have the same information. they didn't think we were going to do it, did they? they didn't think we were going to invade, no, because they didn't have that extra information. the element of surprise crucial. so, in the end, it was the right decision. i would say so, yes. as it turned out, weather conditions on the 6th were worse than expected. winds were stronger, tides higher. but at the next window for invasion, two weeks later, the english channel experienced its worst storms in 20 years, which could have cost even more lives and more time. matt taylor, bbc news. absolutely fascinating look back there. what we need to know this morning is whether the sun will shine down on those veterans today as we gather here on southsea common for this very special service along with military top brass of 2024, the royal family will all be here to see this ceremony, hosted by dame helen mirren live later this morning. just down the coast from here in portsmouth, carol can tell us how it is looking for portsmouth and the whole country. good morning, indeed, it will be a dry day here in portsmouth. we have sunshine, a chilly start, not a lot of breeze, i must say. it is quite pleasant. i want to take you back to this day 80 years ago and show you a still photo taken as the troops were preparing to leave. we can see exactly what i'm talking about. of the 160,000 troops who landed in normandy, 27,000 of them are left from portsmouth and gosport and they were so many ships along the shore that eyewitnesses said it seemed as though it would be possible to walk from portsmouth to the isle of wight across their decks and portsmouth was the headquarters and main departure point for military naval units destined for the normandy coast. quite a poignant moment there, and interesting to see that shot, as well. as i was saying a moment ago, the forecast for today for us all is one of sunshine and showers, a lot of them in the north of the country. there will be brisk winds and the driest conditions will be further south, where we will see some sunny spells. we have our weather front that has moved across over the course of the night, bringing rain across the country. low pressure is still firmly in charge of our weather and the isobars telling us we have brisk winds across the north west. some rain crossing scotland this morning, behind that, heavy, thundery showers with pale, wintry above 800 metres orso with pale, wintry above 800 metres or so and as we move south there will be some scattered showers but a lot of us will mist them and have a dry day and it will not be as windy in the south as yesterday. temperatures ranging from about ten to 17 degrees north to south. as we head on through the evening and overnight, once again we have a new weather front coming overnight, once again we have a new weatherfront coming in overnight, once again we have a new weather front coming in across the north of scotland that will introduce some rain. another one bringing some rain across the likes of wales, cheshire, in through lincolnshire. that will slowly slip southwards. they will be some clear skies and it is going to be another chilly start to the day, rather like this morning. temperatures falling away to low or mid single figures for many. tomorrow, we start off with a band of cloud syncing south across england and wales. then once again a day of sunshine and showers. most of the showers will be in the northern half of the country, where once again they will be accompanied by brisk winds in the north—west, gusting as much as 40 mph, for example. still wintry about 700 or 800 metres in the highlands, and temperatures tomorrow up to about 17 or 18 degrees. as we head into friday, a weather front across the north of scotland will push southwards across the rest of scotland and northern ireland, eventually getting into northern england. here, aftera bright eventually getting into northern england. here, after a bright start it will cloud over and asked the weather front pushes south, again, a bit more cloud developing through the day was behind the weather front we are back into that regime that we are getting used to, which is sunshine and showers, a brisk wind in the north—west, with a top temperature in the sunshine that could well reach 19 degrees. it is business as usual with the weather. thank you. gosh, isn't it looking absolutely lovely in portsmouth for the d—day commemorations? the time is 6:50am. the king will make an appearance in portsmouth today, but if you are lucky today, when you go and buy something, the king might be a bit closer to home. why? bank notes featuring the face of king charles officially go into circulation for the first time today — and ben's got hold of some already. this is a really big day, isn't it? it really is. i have them safe in my pocket and i will show you them in close—up detail later. an historic moment. this is the first time we have seen a change of monarch, the image on our banknotes. let me explain what is happening and why. wait for it, it is coming up... yes, here it is. just over a year since his coronation and the king now appears on our notes — coins have already been out for a little while. but unless you're very lucky, it may be a little while until you get your hands on some of these. that's because — for now, at least — it'll be a gradual roll out. these new notes are only replacing ones which have become worn or damaged. so it could be some weeks — possibly months — before you see them in regular circulation. in the meantime, some 4.7 billion of the more familiar notes featuring the late queen will continue to be legal tender. and as nice as the new notes are — it comes at a time when we're using less cash in general, as kevin peachey reports. cash may no longer be king, but finally, the king is on our cash. printed months ago, preparations are complete for these banknotes to enter circulation from today. and if it's your portrait on them... i wondered how it would come out. ..you'll be curious about how they look. these are the first issues. the rest will be introduced steadily. the new king charles banknotes are only going to enter circulation very gradually. that's because we're only printing enough to replace worn—out notes and to meet any new demand. what i can tell you, though, is that cash centres up and down the country have got the new notes in, and so they should start to be seen nationwide as of today, but over the next few weeks, people will start to see them coming into their wallets. but while the king's now appearing on notes and coins, is cash disappearing from our lives? here in the harbour town of looe in cornwall — a county with rich links to the monarch and where the ferry only takes cash — they've witnessed a sea change. well, i can tell you that, because i'm a local window cleaner. so most people pay straight into the bank account, the company bank account. you see people pay with their phones, these days. i don't do that. usually, card or my phone, to be honest — just tap. just got so used to it. everywhere you go, it's got card readers. even the toilet down there, they're preparing to put a little card readerfor 20p. surveys suggest most people still rely to some extent on cash, but with fewer banks around, it's getting harder to find. with more than 6,000 branches across the uk having closed in the last nine years, hundreds of places like this have been left with none at all. and for those who want or need banking services and cash, one possible alternative stands right here. behind a cafe and heritage centre, underneath an award—winning restaurant... through this magic door. ..and next to a disused climbing wall, there's a new hub — premises shared by the major banks and run by the post office. so they can come and take money out. they can come and put money in. they can deposit cheques. we do change—giving for our businesses. people come and pay their bills. you can top up your gas and electric — with a friendly service and a smile. the cafe manager says the hub — one of 50 around the country — is a lifeline. obviously, for all the businesses in the town, they need to use it, you know, because if they don't, you know that old saying — if you don't use it, you're going to lose it. so whether or not you think cash still counts, it'll be with us — with a new look — for a while yet. kevin peachey, bbc news. here they are. some exciting. we got these careered _ here they are. some exciting. we got these careered up _ here they are. some exciting. we got these careered up from _ here they are. some exciting. we got these careered up from the _ here they are. some exciting. we got these careered up from the bank - here they are. some exciting. we got these careered up from the bank of l these careered up from the bank of england yesterday, these are some of the fares that have gone up and take a closer 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collectors, the lowest serial numbers, the first issued ones with a new image, those are in the possession of the king.- a new image, those are in the possession of the king. thank you very much- _ possession of the king. thank you very much- i _ possession of the king. thank you very much- lam _ possession of the king. thank you very much. i am hoping _ possession of the king. thank you very much. i am hoping he - possession of the king. thank you very much. i am hoping he will. very much. i am hoping he will forget he hasjust very much. i am hoping he will forget he has just handed very much. i am hoping he will forget he hasjust handed me very much. i am hoping he will forget he has just handed me this. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning from bbc london. i'm alice salfield. some of london's biggest hospitals are dealing with the consequences of a cyber attack which led to thousands of operations and blood transfusions being cancelled. king's, guy's and st thomas's, the royal brompton and the evelina children's hospital have all declared a critical incident. the pathology services company synnovis was the target of the attack, which also affected gp surgeries. nhs officials say they're working with the national cyber security centre to understand exactly what happened. there's always going to be two outcomes that they're going to look to try and do. number one is just get the business back up and running again — the sooner they can do that, the sooner that they can get that flow of blood products into the nhs that's so desperately needed. at the same time, there's going to be a bit more of a sort of an understanding and investigation of what happened. a phone snatcher who used an electric motorbike to steal mobiles from people has pleaded guilty to theft, according to city of london police. 28—year—old sonny stringer, from islington, stole 24 phones before evading police by driving at nearly 50 miles an hour. officers are warning people to be vigilant on the streets. if you're wearing headphones, you know, if you've got airpods, make sure you've got, like, transparency mode — you can hear what's going on around you — and just being a bit savvy of what you're doing, even if it's just checking up around you. because these bikes, they're electric bikes and you don't hear them — they're completely silent. and when you're in your own world, you're not going to notice anyone coming up round you. a new comedy musical has arrived in the west end from the producers behind fleabag and baby reindeer. it's called kathy and stella solve a murder and it follows two true—crime podcasters who have to investigate when their favourite author is killed. because they're the last people to see her alive, they get called in by the police, they find themselves at the centre of the story, and then they go on a quest to try and solve her murder, make a success of their true—crime podcast in the process. a look at the tubes now — minor delays on the dlr. some issues on the piccadilly line. good morning. it's a chilly but bright start this morning. yesterday's cold front cleared overnight. this was sunrise earlier on — barely any cloud to speak of. so plenty of sunshine around first thing, one or two mist and fog patches for the home counties this morning, but the cloud is going to bubble up. it does bring the chance of an isolated shower. not quite as blustery as yesterday, but temperatures certainly cooler — 17 celsius, the maximum. then overnight tonight should be dry with some clear spells to start with, but then we'll start to see a bit more cloud just edging in from the northwest through the early hours into tomorrow morning. that brings the chance of a shower. the wind drops, minimum temperature six celsius. now high pressure at least starts to try and build in from the west through the course of thursday. we will see some showers for the morning, but that should start to clear — dry for the afternoon. sunny spells, patchy cloud, temperatures tomorrow sneaking up a little to 18 celsius. further through this week, we're never far away from a shower, but plenty of dry weather, some sunshine. temperatures still below average, but recovering a little by the end of the weekend. that's all from me for now. you can get the latest on the bbc news app. bye. good morning, welcome to breakfast with sarah campbell in the studio and jon kay in portsmouth, for the national d—day commemorations. our headlines today. a fiery encounter between rishi sunak and sir keir starmer in theirfirst tv debate of the general election campaign — they clashed over nhs waiting lists and tax. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that is just the start because there is a long list of other things he needs to find the money for. 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down and this is the guy who says who says he's good at maths. good morning from sunny portsmouth where the king and queen willjoin d—day veterans in the national commemoration. the events of eight years ago changed the course of the second world war and we will hear this morning from some of those who were there. don't ever think of me as a hero. i felt guilty all the way through when i see someone else go down and i was still here. major london hospitals declare a critical incident after a cyber attack leads to cancelled operations and patients taken elsewhere for care. good morning from south parade pier in portsmouth where the sun is beating down, but it is a cold start to the day. wherever you are it is a cold start with a mixture of sunshine and showers, most in the north of the country, where they will be accompanied by a brisk wind. all the details later. it's wednesday, the 5th ofjune. our main story. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have clashed on taxes, the nhs, immigration and the cost of living in theirfirst general election debate, on itv. the labour leader challenged the prime minister over hospital waiting lists, whilst rishi sunak took aim at labour's spending plans. political correspondent iain watson reports. the first debate of the campaign was a head—to—head clash between the prime minister and the man who wanted to replace him. if you're still wondering about the key messages they want to hammer home at this election, wonder no longer. this election is all about a choice — more of the chaos and division we've seen for the last 14 years, or turning the page and rebuilding with labour. no—one knows what labour would actually do. but you know what i would do. i'll cut your taxes, protect your pension, and reduce immigration. last night, the party leaders faced questions not from members of parliament, but members of the public. i in the last few years, i found it. very difficult to make ends meet, and the money simply doesn't go far enough _ paula from huddersfield wanted to know what they'd do about the cost of living. my priority has always been to do what i can to support you. that started with bold action like the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently my clear plan to bring inflation back to normal. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say — having heard what you're going through — that the plan is working, it's all all right. but in discussing serious issues — such as nhs waiting lists — there were still some lighter moments. waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2. .. laughter. both men were asked if they would raise taxes to help meet the many challenges the country faces. but, repeatedly, rishi sunak asserted that labour would have to put taxes up. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that's just the start, because there's a long list of other things that he needs to find the money for. so it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2,000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what's happened here is it's a classic — they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false read—out. the new reform uk leader nigel farage says he wants to make this an immigration election — he'll be one of seven leading party representatives taking part in a bbc debate later this week. but last night, divisions between the main two parties in this issue were obvious. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause. ..putting some of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel. they're making a fortune. 0k... what are you going to do? just tell everybody. let's... and rishi sunak was asked if he was prepared to leave the european convention on human rights. but if i am forced to choose between securing our borders and our country's security or a foreign court, i'm going to choose our country's security every single time. applause. if i'm prime minister, we will not pull out of international agreements and international law which is respected the world over. applause. but the debate wasn't over yet. afterwards, in the crowded spin room, party representatives tried to get voters to see their leaders' performance in the best possible light, and to cast shade on their opponents. what they cannot answer is how they will plug the £71 billion hole in their own tax and spending plans. in fact, like tory britain, the lights have just gone out — this is a metaphor for the state of the country. what has he actually said? what has he committed to? what is he going to do? - because every single i answer is looking back, is having a go, or, "well, what about liz truss?" i we're past that now — l this is about the future. if you haven't made up your mind who to vote for yet, well, there are more debates to come, and — oh, yes — another month of campaigning. iain watson, bbc news. we'rejoined now by our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman. there is a lotto take in. an hour and ten minutes and quickfire questions, short answers. what did you take from it in terms of who is deemed to have performed better? it deemed to have performed better? it was lively. perhaps that is no surprise because the stakes are massive. forthose surprise because the stakes are massive. for those two men the stakes could not be bigger with one of them walking through the door of 10 downing street after the election on july the 5th having 10 downing street after the election onjuly the 5th having seen the king to be told they are forming a government. you could see rishi sunak scrapping for it, he was fiery, frankly aggressive at points, talked over keir starmer a lot and talked over keir starmer a lot and talked over keir starmer a lot and talked over the moderator a lot. she had to tell them to lower their voices at one point. i had to tell them to lower their voices at one point.— had to tell them to lower their voices at one point. i think there was a sign _ voices at one point. i think there was a sign from _ voices at one point. i think there was a sign from rishi _ voices at one point. i think there was a sign from rishi sunak's i voices at one point. i think there i was a sign from rishi sunak's point of view he knew how much he had to gain potentially from this debate. we should not pay too much heed to opinion polls but privately most conservatives can see as it stands they are behind in the election and rishi sunak needed to find a way to turn that around. i think the conservatives are pleased with his performance. they think he landed key arguments on keir starmer about his plan or as the conservative see at his lack of it. key arguments about tax. but then, labour people around keir starmer i spoke to, they are pretty pleased. they think he showed himself as a prime ministerialfigure and showed himself as a prime ministerial figure and he showed himself as a prime ministerialfigure and he introduced key elements of his background, people who might not have known about his childhood, son of a toolmaker and all that. they think he prosecuted the key case he wants to make against rishi sunak which is he is notjust running on the future, the two years he has been prime minister, they want him to account for 14 years of conservative government. irate account for 14 years of conservative government-— government. we will speak later to members of _ government. we will speak later to members of the _ government. we will speak later to members of the conservatives - government. we will speak later to members of the conservatives and | members of the conservatives and labour. a figure that came out of the debate over and again was £2000. it was almost comical how rishi sunak diverted any subject to that figure. but he used to that figure and got it across. where does it come from? the conservatives say there is a hole of £40 billion in labour's plan is not accounted for and if you divide it by every working household in the country, you get to £2000, a tax bill they say the average household would face. that figure was generated by civil servants in the treasury but civil servants in the treasury but civil servants in the treasury but civil servants in the treasury operating under assumptions and rules, parameters set by political advisers working for the conservative party and a lot of people, including the civil servants, say those assumptions actually were designed to produce as big a figure as possible. i think some would say some parts of those figures are accurate but the overall number is too high. from a labour point of view, keir starmer eventually said late into the debate, i think the phrase he used was absolute garbage, but they will be frustrated he did not deny more vociferously. fiur be frustrated he did not deny more vociferously— vociferously. our colleagues have one vociferously. our colleagues have gone through _ vociferously. our colleagues have gone through the _ vociferously. our colleagues have gone through the figures. - vociferously. our colleagues have gone through the figures. it - vociferously. our colleagues have gone through the figures. it is - gone through the figures. it is difficult to get your head around what is being said and what is not. the bbc will host a debate between leading figures from the seven biggest political parties in great britain on friday. you can watch it from half—seven on bbc one and on the iplayer. in other news. two people have been arrested after the leader of reform uk, nigel farage, had a drink thrown over him whilst campaigning at clacton in essex. police say a 25—year—old woman has been arrested on suspicion of assault. separately a man was detained on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker. the liberal democrats say they would provide regular mental health mot checks for those at high risk of developing conditions such as anxiety and depression, if they were to take office. their plan would see an additional £70 million a year invested in talking therapies by the end of the next parliament — funded by a clampdown on tax evasion. several major hospitals in london have declared a critical incident because of a cyber attack. it affected hospitals including king's college, the royal brompton and st thomas', where our reporter nickjohnson is outside. nick, what does this mean for patients? this is a stark example of how a cyberattack aimed at the health service can have a direct impact on patients. the attack targeted an it company called synnovis which is responsible for providing pathology services for hospitals and gp surgeries. it meant some operations had to be cancelled, some procedures moved elsewhere. the nhs said the attack is having an impact on the delivery of services. here at saint thomas' but at guy's hospital, evalina hospital, king's college and the royal brompton which is where 70—year—old oliver was about to have open heart surgery and moments beforehand he was told the operation would not happen.— would not happen. over, initially dumbfounded, _ would not happen. over, initially dumbfounded, i— would not happen. over, initially dumbfounded, i suppose. - would not happen. over, initially dumbfounded, i suppose. and i would not happen. over, initially i dumbfounded, i suppose. and then upset _ dumbfounded, i suppose. and then upset and _ dumbfounded, i suppose. and then upset and angry about it because of the delay— upset and angry about it because of the delay and because when you have been sitting there since the crack of dawn. — been sitting there since the crack of dawn, waiting to have open heart surgery. _ of dawn, waiting to have open heart surgery, however, ito feel, you still get — surgery, however, ito feel, you still get a — surgery, however, ito feel, you still get a bit nervous. this surgery, however, ito feel, you still get a bit nervous.— still get a bit nervous. this is a ransom ware — still get a bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack _ still get a bit nervous. this is a ransom ware attack where - still get a bit nervous. this is a - ransom ware attack where hackers gain control of data, withhold it and lock it. they then demand some sort of payment for that data to be released. synnovis said it is in the early stages of working out what happened and how it can be dealt with. what is not clear is how long this attack will last, how long it will take until those systems are back up and running, but the nhs said emergency care is running as normal, you should still dial 999 in an emergency and if you have an appointment at an affected hospital you should turn up unless told otherwise. you should turn up unless told otherwise-— results from india's general election show an alliance led by the prime minister, narendra modi, has won enough seats to form the next government. but his bjp party has failed to secure a majority on its own — winning far fewer seats than at the previous election. the results are a personal blow to mr modi, who has dominated the country's politics for a decade. more than 640 million people voted in a marathon seven—week election. the first minister of wales, labour's vaughan gething, will face a vote of no confidence in the senedd this evening. opposition parties have raised a number of concerns, including why mr gething accepted a donation from a millionaire who had convictions for illegally dumping waste. the first minister says he is confident of winning the vote. the family of rob burrow have visited headingley stadium to read tributes left to the leeds rhinos legend. rob's wife lindsey and the couple's three children took in the thousands of messages that have been left by supporters and well—wishers. rob died on sunday at the age of 41, nearly five years after being diagnosed with motor neurone disease. tomorrow marks the 80th anniversary of d—day — the landing of thousand of uk and allied forces troops on the normandy coast. this moring, jon is in portsmouth where commemorations are due to get under way. we can see the sun coming up. the weather looked great and the scene is set for special commemorations. indeed. good morning from southsea common. in portsmouth. a beautiful day and the stage is set. this specially built set for a moment of national commemoration, national pride. why are we here? exactly 80 years ago today — 80 years ago today — portsmouth was the headquarters and the main departure point for the military and naval units heading across the channel to sword beach on the normandy coast. and this morning, royalty, politicians, military top brass — but crucially d—day veterans gatherfor a spectacular and poignant show in memory of that day injune 1944. also hear schoolchildren because the event is to commemorate and remember but to celebrate the d—day heroes and inspire and educate future generations. i am and inspire and educate future generations. iam not and inspire and educate future generations. i am not allowed to tell you what will take place in the show, we are sworn to secrecy until you watch it on the bbc this morning, but it is special with fantastic dance and music hosted by dame helen mirren. and breakfast�*s tim moffatt can explain what we will be seeing in the next couple of days. i thought you might like to see one or two things that we have from my grandfather, king george vi. first—hand accounts of d—day are precious and increasingly rare. tonight, the king and queen will be seen hosting d—day veterans at buckingham palace, listening to their stories. yes, i spoke to montgomery when i was in normandy. did you? and to churchill. newsreel: d-day has come. early this morning, the allies began the assault on the northwestern... did you? and to churchill. newsreel: d-day has come. early this morning, the allies began the assault on the northwestern... this is the day and this is the hour. the sky is lightening. in whitsand bay in cornwall, royal marine commandos have been practising amphibious landings. tomorrow morning, they'll be landing on beaches in normandy to mark the moment when, 80 years before, the first of the more than 150,000 allied troops went ashore on d—day. this morning, at 11am, on southsea common in portsmouth, the ministry of defence will host the uk's first major national commemorative event marking the 80th anniversary. the king, the queen and the prince of wales are all due to attend. to the north of portsmouth is southwick house, where d—day was planned and overseen by allied commanders. veterans have been gathering there this week to reflect on the role they played. marie scott was a 17—year—old radio operator relaying crucial information to those landing in normandy. i could hear machine gunfire. cannon. bombs. and shouting. and screaming. you realise, my goodness, these young men are placing their lives on the line. i can see france, the outline of france and hear these shells. it made me realise we were in a war. it wasn't an exercise or rehearsal or training — we were there and anything can happen — and i was scared. many veterans have now crossed the channel to attend tomorrow's commemorative events at the british normandy memorial in ver—sur—mer. poignant and powerful, a chance for all of us to remember and say thank you. tim muffett, bbc news. it is really going to be a special couple of days here on the south coast of england and over in normandy, especially tomorrow. all of it will be covered on breakfast and across the bbc and i will tell you shortly about where you can catch the events, including this commemoration on southsea common. it looks like the weather will be all right today. it is a lovely start to wednesday morning. carol has gone down to south parade pier, a short distance from here, where those young men boarded the landing craft heading to normandy, not knowing, really, what was awaiting good morning. good morning. that is absolutely right. we are right at the end of the pier. down there is where troops would have disembarked from the pier and got onto the landing craft, taking them to the beaches of normandy. just younger men. what was going through their minds at that time? ijust don't know. it is poignant to be here on a day like today. it is sunny. it is a cold start but the temperature will pick up start but the temperature will pick up quickly. the forecast today is one of sunshine and scattered showers, blustery winds, particularly across north—west scotland. we start on a sunny note across many parts of england and wales. we do have a weather front crossing scotland bringing rain. that will push south, behind it, back into sunshine and showers, but some showers heavy and thundery with hail and wintry above about 700 metres in the highlands. we could see showers developing across parts of england and wales but they will be well scattered. temperatures ranging from 10—17 north to south. overnight, a new weatherfront ranging from 10—17 north to south. overnight, a new weather front comes into the north of scotland bearing rain. we have another across north wales, cheshire, lincolnshire, bringing rain. the overnight loan, another cold night, temperatures dipping into single figures for many. that is how we start tomorrow. another day of sunshine and showers. no showers in the north. they could be heavy and thundery with hail. wintry on higher ground. blustery winds. cloud crossing england and wales breaks up and here once again looking at sunshine and showers with a high of 18. that scenario plays out much of the rest of the week. thank you. great relief that the skies are blue and the sun is shining for this commemoration event. at the heart of the event will be the veterans themselves. some have gone to normandy already. many will be here to meet the king and queen and see this terrific concert. over the past weeks, we have heard amazing stories from them, the people involved in that d—day operation back injune 80 years ago. this morning we want to tell you the story of tom stonehouse. only 18 years old during the landings. he did not know what he was heading to, but he has been sharing his thoughts with graham. on good days, when the sun is out, tom stonehouse and his wife shirley liked to sit in their garden and watch the birds. tom is 98, his memory sharp as a pin. thomas stonehouse, 14713902. you never got paid until you could remember your number. and he said, after that, you'll never forget it. and up to this year, 14713902. tom was 18 on d—day. he was one of 160,000 allied troops who landed on the beaches of normandy. what were you thinking as d—day was approaching? frightened. frightened, and the sea roughing was the hardest thing in the world. up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down. not very nice, as you know. newsreel: heading out to sea after a 24-hour delay - because of the weather. the hardest thing after that was going down the side of the boat to get into the landing craft. plunging waist—deep into the sea. the explosions came from all sides. it was an open space, really, and i can't say much more than that. that made me sort of, i suppose, frightened. and i was frightened — that type of frightened all the way through. i went across with a bloke i joined the army with, around about the same age as myself. i knew he was alive when we got off the boats, but i didn't know, and i couldn't find out. no—one seemed to know. and it was a hell of a job to find... if you've lost someone, they weren't forthcoming with names. but you didn't see him again? i never see him no more. hard, losing people like that. it's hard losing people. it... it's... what can i say? it was a guilty fact that it was them and not me. why? and that question — "why?" — came up a terrific amount of times in my life. you felt guilty? i felt guilty. i felt guilty all the way through. when i see someone else go down, and i was still here. do you still feel guilty? i still feel guilty. newsreel: where the weight of battle had fallen heaviest, _ it was a scene of utter destruction. tom fought his way through france and belgium. he ended the war in germany, just outside berlin, and then was taken to a concentration camp. they took everyone just to...let us have a look — see what happens in wars, the concentration camps — when they was closing him down. i think that was the worst of the lot. the stench! the actual stench was far worse, and...i would have rather not seen it than seen it. in 2018, tom was given the legion d'honneur — the highest french order of merit — for his part in the war. that was lovely. and then, see, the french president, after — he come up, shook my hand and give me a kiss — you know, like the french people do! what did you think of that? beautiful. you don't think of yourself as a hero? no! no, the hundreds of blokes more hero than me. don't ever think of me as a hero. i was one of them. do you think it's important that we remember what happened? yes, you've got to remember. you've got to remember. why do you think it's important? why? because until you can get the silly odd sods to get together and stop it, it's going to go on for ever. the same things just happening time and time and time again. remember people from years ago. wish they was here. pray for �*em sometimes. i hope i see a lot of my friends again. if... if there's another world and... you'd like that? i'd like that. 0h, oh, tom. amazing to hear your story. a big thank you to 98—year—old tom stonehouse for sharing his memories with breakfast, all of us. if you are watching, good morning, iam sure you will be keen to be part of the event today. the national commemoration of d—day eight years on. charlotte gallagher is with me. the king, the queen, the prince of wales will be here. this is important for them. by, wales will be here. this is important for them.- wales will be here. this is important for them. a lot of vips includin: important for them. a lot of vips including the _ important for them. a lot of vips including the royal _ important for them. a lot of vips including the royal family. - important for them. a lot of vips including the royal family. we i important for them. a lot of vips i including the royalfamily. we have not seen the king out and about since his diagnosis but obviously today was incredibly important for him. he wanted to commemorate those events eight years ago and remember those sacrifices. he is the patron of the normandy trust and has been meeting veterans this week. sharing their memories with him and he has been sharing letters, diary entries his grandfather wrote on d—day when he was king, and we expect he will meet more veterans today. it is important to him. the queen the prince of wales involved. they will travel to normandy. a busy schedule for the king who is being still treated for cancer. many obviously really wanted to take part. it is important, special, and he wanted to pay tribute to veterans still here and we'll be here today. band pay tribute to veterans still here and we'll be here today. and here toda and and we'll be here today. and here today and in _ and we'll be here today. and here today and in normandy _ and we'll be here today. and here today and in normandy tomorrow| and we'll be here today. and here i today and in normandy tomorrow for another day of commemoration. thank you. shall we run through what you need to know if you want to watch these events over the next two days? at 11 o'clock, the ministry of defence will host the uk's national commemorative event here in portsmouth. veterans, king and queen and members of the public will be among the guests. you can watch the event live on bbc one from quarter past ten this morning. and tonight at 8.30 you can watch a special vigil, live at the bayeux war cemetery in normandy. and bbc breakfast will be live not just this morning from portsmouth, but from france. charlie will be in normandy this time tomorrow. crucial events timed perfectly for the programme. it's time for news, travel and weather where you are. hello, and a very good morning from bbc london. i'm alice salfield. some of london's biggest hospitals are dealing with the consequences of a cyber attack which led to thousands of operations and blood transfusions being cancelled. king's, guy's and st thomas's, the royal brompton and the evelina children's hospital all declared a critical incident. the attack targeted pathology services and led to operations being cancelled at short notice, and emergency patients having to be diverted elsewhere. nhs officials say they're working with the national cyber security centre to understand exactly what happened. there's always going to be two outcomes that they're going to look to try and do. number one is just get the business back up and running again — the sooner they can do that, the sooner that they can get that flow of blood products into the nhs that's so desperately needed. at the same time, there's going to be a bit more of a sort of an understanding and investigation of what happened. a phone—snatcher who used an electric motorbike to steal mobiles from people has pleaded guilty to theft, according to city of london police. 28—year—old sonny stringer, from islington, stole 24 phones before evading police by driving at nearly 50 miles an hour. officers were eventually able to use the city's camera network to catch him, and are warning londoners to be vigilant. if you're wearing headphones, you know, if you've got airpods, make sure you've got, like, transparency mode — you can hear what's going on around you — and just being a bit savvy of what you're doing, even if it's just checking up around you. because these bikes, they're electric bikes and you don't hear them — they're completely silent. and when you're in your own world, you're not going to notice anyone coming up round you. a running club that received funding from pride in london says it wants to "highlight the issues in sports for trans and nonbinary runners". known as queer running club, it's using the money to host a new event — holding 5k and 10k races in hackney next month. time for a look at the tubes now. the dlr has severe delays between bank and lewisham, the dlr has minor delays between bank and lewisham, and the piccadilly line also has severe delays, acton town to uxbridge. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it's a chilly but bright start this morning. yesterday's cold front cleared overnight. this was sunrise earlier on — barely any cloud to speak of. so plenty of sunshine around first thing, one or two mist and fog patches for the home counties this morning, but the cloud is going to bubble up. it does bring the chance of an isolated shower. not quite as blustery as yesterday, but temperatures certainly cooler — 17 celsius, the maximum. then overnight tonight should be dry with some clear spells to start with, but then we'll start to see a bit more cloud just edging in from the northwest through the early hours into tomorrow morning. that brings the chance of a shower. the wind drops, minimum temperature six celsius. now high pressure at least starts to try and build in from the west through the course of thursday. we will see some showers for the morning, but that should start to clear — dry for the afternoon. sunny spells, patchy cloud, temperatures tomorrow sneaking up a little to 18 celsius. further through this week, we're never far away from a shower, but plenty of dry weather, some sunshine. temperatures still below average, but recovering a little by the end of the weekend. that's all from me for now. you can get the latest on the bbc news app. i'll be back in around half an hour. bye— bye. hello, this is breakfast with sarah campbell. jon with sarah campbell. is in portsmouth for d—day commemorations. let's return to our top story. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer traded blows on the economy, the nhs, and immigration as they faced each other in a heated election debate. lots of claims and counter—claims were made during the debate, and bbc verify�*s nick eardley�*s been looking into them. lots of claims in last night's debate — some of which stacked up more than others. the bbc�*s team of fact—checkers spent the night analysing them to put it all in a bit more context. first up, tax. here's a reminder of what was said. keir starmer would put all that progress at risk. he would put up everyone's taxes by £2,000. £2,000 in higher taxes for every working family in our country. he's the... he's the british expert on tax rises — they're at the highest level for 70 years. let's start with that claim taxes would go up by £2,000 for every working family under labour. that is based on a dossier from the conservative party, which claims there's a £38 billion black hole in labour's spending plans over four years. but this is important — some of the assumptions behind the calculations are from politically appointed special advisers in the treasury. some of them are questionable. it assumes, for example, that it's always a lot less efficient for the public sector to do things than the private sector. so, with this figure, a dollop of caution. we will know more about labour's tax and spend plans when they publish their manifesto, but last night, after the debate, they emphasised they weren't going to put up income tax, national insurance, or vat. next, let's look at sir keir starmer�*s claim on the overall tax level. it is right to say that taxes have gone up. this is the tax take since the last general election, compared to the size of the economy. you can see it's gone up quite a lot — in part because income—tax thresholds have been frozen — which means, as you earn more money in line with inflation, you pay more tax. rishi sunak has cut national insurance recently but — as you can see from this graph here — overall, taxes are up. just to give you a flavour of what that means for people on different incomes... you are worse off if you're earning £15,000. if you earn 35,000 or 55,000, you're a bit better off. you're worse off if you earn £75,000. next, have a look at the exchange on the nhs — here's what we heard in the debate. but we are now making progress — the waiting lists are coming down but what keir starmer... hang on. ..didn't mention to you... hang on. ..which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down laughter. they are now coming down 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down laughter and applause. they are down, right? yes, because the nhs was impacted by industrial action. 0h! groaning. and if it wasn't for that, half a million appointments would have been saved. so it's somebody else's fault. so this is the picture with waiting lists in england. you can see they go up quite significantly after the pandemic — reaching 7.8 million waits a few months ago. now, as you can also see at the end, it goes down a wee bit, but the levels are higher than when rishi sunak took over as prime minister. he says that's down to strikes, and it's true to say they had an impact. but this is where you get the claim both that waiting lists have gone up, and that they've gone down a bit. finally, let's quickly took at small—boats crossings. rishi sunak said they were down by a third. keir starmer said they were up this year. well, actually they could both be right here. this is the picture. the number of small—boats crossings fell quite dramatically between �*22 and �*23 but, as you can see here, they are up this year so far. so, some context — all of this when it comes to making up your mind. there are a lot more fact—checks from bbc verify now on the bbc news website. there certainly are. we're joined now by the energy secretary claire coutinho. thanks for coming in and talking through it. it was quite an evening, wasn't it? your initial views? i wasn't it? your initial views? i thought it was astonishing that keir starmer on all the big issues didn't really have any answers. there was no plan and one of the things that was most worrying is that the £2000 in extra tax rises that his proposals would mean for working families, he simply couldn't rule it out. �* . . ~ families, he simply couldn't rule it out. �*, ., ~ ., i: i: i: out. let's talk about the £2000 rise. if out. let's talk about the £2000 rise- if you _ out. 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talking about 7.5% difference and again that number has been challenged. it is very difficult before a manifesto has been put forward to know exactly which of those assumptions you are making are correct, which would make this £2000 number correct or not. like correct, which would make this £2000 number correct or not.— number correct or not. like i said, all the proposals _ number correct or not. like i said, all the proposals have _ number correct or not. like i said, all the proposals have been - number correct or not. like i said, all the proposals have been set i number correct or not. like i said, | all the proposals have been set out by the labour party and the costings by the labour party and the costings by treasury officials. where you look at the most expensive proposal, the green plan, we are probably hugely underestimating the cost to families and i thought it was very telling because when keir starmer was asked about it, dwell times, he couldn't reel it out, couldn't say simply that it is not the case. it took him a very long time and that is because he knows it is true. actually, he said completely the opposite and he is a closing you... —— he is accusing you of lying. these are costings that are based, as i said, unofficial work... very late in the day, he must have had a frantic text. he late in the day, he must have had a frantic text-— frantic text. he called it garbage. frantic text _ frantic text. he called it garbage. frantic text from _ frantic text. he called it garbage. frantic text from an _ frantic text. he called it garbage. frantic text from an adviser i frantic text. he called it garbage. frantic text from an adviser but l frantic text. he called it garbage. l frantic text from an adviser but he could not really out and there are multiple things like that. the £2000 of tax on working families, the fact that pensioners would be taxed for the first time next year. we have put in place a triple lock plus and he couldn't rule out pensions being taxed next year. when it came to other big issues of the day, immigration, the nhs, as soon as he was challenged he could not come up with an answer or a plan for the country. with an answer or a plan for the count . �* . with an answer or a plan for the count . v . ~ with an answer or a plan for the count . �*, ., ~ ., ,, country. let's talk about the nhs, there wasn't _ country. let's talk about the nhs, there wasn't much _ country. let's talk about the nhs, there wasn't much audience i country. let's talk about the nhs, i there wasn't much audience reaction throughout the debate, but the laughter came on this issue of nhs, nhs waiting lists. when rishi sunak said the waiting lists are coming down. just a question, i waiting list is higher now than they were when rishi sunak was made prime minister? , . ., , ., minister? they are a bit higher now but i minister? they are a bit higher now but i coming _ minister? they are a bit higher now but i coming down _ minister? they are a bit higher now but i coming down from _ minister? they are a bit higher now but i coming down from the - minister? they are a bit higher now but i coming down from the peak i minister? they are a bit higher now i but i coming down from the peak and thatis but i coming down from the peak and that is the important thing, the direction of travel. if you look at england, the nhs waiting list which i know are enormously difficult for people, they are coming down month on month and when labour are in power and running the nhs in wales, the waiting lists are going up and what i am sure people at home want to hear is whether the parties have proposals which will keep the waiting list coming down, and what you have seen in england is we are starting to turn that corner and they are coming down. but starting to turn that corner and they are coming down. but they are still phenomenally _ they are coming down. but they are still phenomenally high, _ they are coming down. but they are still phenomenally high, 7.5 - still phenomenally high, 7.5 million. ., ., , ., million. far too high, and it is a really difficult _ million. far too high, and it is a really difficult challenge - million. far too high, and it is a really difficult challenge for i really difficult challenge for families and.— really difficult challenge for families and. let's talk about immigration, _ families and. let's talk about immigration, another - families and. let's talk about immigration, another issue l families and. let's talk about i immigration, another issue brought up immigration, another issue brought up during the debate, another very difficult issue for both parties to try to get their heads across. try to bring down. rishi sunak said crossings are down by a third. labour said they are up this year will stop the fact is they may have come down just recently, but they are the highest they have been on record. . . . . . are the highest they have been on record. , , . . ., ., ., record. this is a challenge that all countries in _ record. this is a challenge that all countries in europe _ record. this is a challenge that all countries in europe are _ record. this is a challenge that all countries in europe are facing i record. this is a challenge that all countries in europe are facing and what you have seen is in a period where rishi sunak has got illegal immigration crossings down by a third the rest of europe has seen them go up by 80% because of tough measures he has put in place. with keir starmer, again this is a choice at the election between the plans of the two main parties. he said his plans were to smash the gangs, as soon as he was asked how he would do that he didn't answer because he didn't have a plan. when you talk about trying to take on those criminal gangs, who, by the way, i putting people in this enormously distressing and dangerous position, actually 1000 of those criminals have been locked up thanks to new sentencing we have brought in that keir starmer voted against. again, when it came to a matter of substance, he could not set out a plan and did not have the answer for an enormous challenge the country is facing. but an enormous challenge the country is facina. �* , ., an enormous challenge the country is facina. �* ,., , ., facing. but your plan is not working. — facing. but your plan is not working, that _ facing. but your plan is not working, that is _ facing. but your plan is not working, that is the - facing. but your plan is not i working, that is the problem, facing. but your plan is not - working, that is the problem, that those crossings are still going up and up. we are on for a record year this year. i and up. we are on for a record year this ear. ~ . and up. we are on for a record year this ear. ~' ., ., this year. i think there are two thins. this year. i think there are two things- they — this year. i think there are two things. they have _ this year. i think there are two things. they have been - this year. i think there are two things. they have been falling | this year. i think there are two i things. they have been falling here when they have been rising in other countries... irlat when they have been rising in other countries- - -— when they have been rising in other countries. . ._ as - when they have been rising in other countries. . ._ as i i countries... not recently. as i said, countries... not recently. as i said. there — countries... not recently. as i said, there was _ countries... not recently. as i said, there was that _ countries... not recently. as i said, there was that period i countries... not recently. as i - said, there was that period where they have been falling when the rest of europe saw enormous rises. secondly, as a prime minister set out last night, what is really important if you have a deterrent so that people don't get into these boats in the first place. that is something the labour party and keir starmer voted against over 100 times, so that bill is now in place, the planes are ready, and it is really important that we continue with that deterrent if people want to stop people coming over in boats. we don't have much time, let's talk about the manifesto. so important for people to be able to read what you are saying, what labour are saying, and to really come to their own decision. that is what we are hearing from our viewers, they want to know when the manifestos are coming out. will they contain figures? targets so that they can measure you against what you are saying? measure you against what you are sa inc ? ., , ., saying? our manifesto will absolutely _ saying? our manifesto will absolutely be _ saying? our manifesto will absolutely be fully - saying? our manifesto will absolutely be fully costed. i saying? our manifesto will- absolutely be fully costed. i'm afraid i don't have a timeline. i can assure you it will be before july the 4th. can assure you it will be before july the 4th-— can assure you it will be before july the 4th._ but| can assure you it will be before | july the 4th._ but | july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have _ july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have a — july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have a date, _ july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have a date, but - july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have a date, but i'm - july the 4th. that is good. but i don't have a date, but i'm sure| july the 4th. that is good. but i l don't have a date, but i'm sure it will be over the next couple of weeks. but everything in our manifesto will be fully costed, as you would expect from a prime minister like rishi sunak. claire coutinho, i _ minister like rishi sunak. claire coutinho, i know— minister like rishi sunak. claire coutinho, i know you _ minister like rishi sunak. claire coutinho, i know you have - minister like rishi sunak. claire coutinho, i know you have lots| minister like rishi sunak. claire i coutinho, i know you have lots of other interviews to get on to but thank you forjoining us. carol is in portsmouth for the weather this morning. we have been seeing the pictures, it is a lovely sunny weather for those all important d—day commemorations. good morning again. good morning. it is beautiful here this morning on southsea parade. here in portsmouth. the sun is beating down, a chilly stuck to the day but warming up quite nicely and if you look at the view we have here, this is a chilly one of the peers where troops would have left from where they were boarding the landing craft to take them to normandy. temporary piers were also built to speed up the process of getting the troops into the landing crafts and during world war ii, part of the pier was dismantled to prevent it being used by the enemy in the case of an invasion so that troops had to rebuild it in order to be able to use it themselves. things like that, you don't think about in your day today life. one thing you will be thinking about in your day today life is the weather and the forecast for today is certainly mixed. sunshine and showers, and also blustery showers. the strongest winds will be in the north—west and the heaviest will also be across the north of the country, where they will have hail and thunder and also some snow on the tops of the mountains in scotland. low pressure is driving our weather. we have a weather front that has crossed overnight, brought rain yesterday, and one look at the isobars will tell you it will be blustery in the north of the country. we are starting off with mist and fog, now slowly lifting around the home counties and northern ireland. a lot of sunshine under clear skies across england and wales but the show was already getting going across the north and we have a weather front syncing across scotland, bringing in some rain. temperatures today getting up to about 17 degrees in the sunshine. out of the breeze, quite pleasant. generally we are looking at ten to 17 degrees north to south. into this evening and overnight, new weather front coming into the north of scotland, bringing rain, and another across north wales, cheshire, heading towards lincolnshire, doing exactly the same. under clearskies, it will lincolnshire, doing exactly the same. under clear skies, it will be another chilly night, temperatures falling away into single figures. tomorrow we start off with the remnants of the weather front across northern england and north wales, sinking south and breaking up. for england and wales tomorrow, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine around, and the odd shower here and there. for scotland and northern ireland, again, more showers. heaviest in scotland, particularly the north—west, where they will be complete by brisk winds. top temperature 18 or 19. on friday, another weather front coming in across the north, bringing rain to scotland and northern ireland. behind it, back into sunshine and showers. there was heavy with hail once again, but further south it will be drier and once again we are looking at highs up to about 18 or 19 at best. as we head into the weekend, it will not be bone dry stock once again, looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers. carol, thank you so much and we will be back in portsmouth as there was a d—day commemorations get under way. it feels like the reverend richard coles has done it all — from pop star to broadcasting vicar, and not forgetting that cha—cha—cha on strictly come dancing. this laughter he is laughing. more recently he has been able to add "best—selling author" to his cv, with his latest mystery novel out tomorrow. richard joins us now. it is so lovely to have you here. lovely to be here.— it is so lovely to have you here. lovely to be here. what do you want to talk about — lovely to be here. what do you want to talk about first? _ lovely to be here. what do you want to talk about first? the _ lovely to be here. what do you want to talk about first? the book, - lovely to be here. what do you want to talk about first? the book, i - to talk about first? the book, i cuess. to talk about first? the book, i guess- this _ to talk about first? the book, i guess. this is _ to talk about first? the book, i guess. this is the _ to talk about first? the book, i guess. this is the third - to talk about first? the book, i guess. this is the third in - to talk about first? the book, i guess. this is the third in a - to talk about first? the book, i i guess. this is the third in a series of. guess. this is the third in a series of- thht's — guess. this is the third in a series of. that's right. _ guess. this is the third in a series of. that's right. book— guess. this is the third in a series of. that's right. book three, - guess. this is the third in a series of. that's right. book three, set | guess. this is the third in a series| of. that's right. book three, set in a little village _ of. that's right. book three, set in a little village in _ of. that's right. book three, set in a little village in middle _ of. that's right. book three, set in a little village in middle england . a little village in middle england at the end of the 19805. the rector in his parish, all tranquil, calm, and then all of a sudden body turns up and then all of a sudden body turns up and by now, even in book three, i think they have the same rate of mortality as mid5omer i have moved this site, it is in a monastery where the rector has gone to lick his wounds after a bruising event in his wounds after a bruising event in his personal life. so his wounds after a bruising event in his personal life.— his personal life. so many people think about _ his personal life. so many people think about retiring _ his personal life. so many people think about retiring to _ his personal life. so many people think about retiring to the - think about retiring to the countryside but you mentioned mid5omer, there seem to be so many murders in these leafy places. there is every the religious connection. i was a vicar of the parish very like that and i have been vicar in other towns and parishes and life is lived everywhere. the idea that somehow you can escape to the country and find peace and tranquillity, when people are getting up to the stuff people are getting up to the stuff people get up to just as much as they are anywhere else. same as monasteries, people think they are a refuge from the realities of life but they are a laboratory for the reality of life. i lifted one for two years and so the book is partly a reflection on what you find when you enter the cloister. what a reflection on what you find when you enter the cloister.— you enter the cloister. what is it like livin: you enter the cloister. what is it like living in _ you enter the cloister. what is it like living in a _ you enter the cloister. what is it like living in a monastery? - you enter the cloister. what is it like living in a monastery? it - you enter the cloister. what is it like living in a monastery? it is i like living in a monastery? it is intense. locked _ like living in a monastery? it is intense. locked up— like living in a monastery? it 3 intense. locked up 24/7 with people you wouldn't necessarily choose to be with. after two days you feel murderous because of the way someone sniffs or how they eat their toes and you have to work out how to live with them. ~ , and you have to work out how to live with them-- i— and you have to work out how to live with them.- i train _ and you have to work out how to live with them. heath/g? i train for the with them. why? i train for the priesthood _ with them. why? i train for the priesthood in _ with them. why? i train for the priesthood in an _ with them. why? i train for the priesthood in an anglican - priesthood in an anglican theological college attached to a monastery at a community of the resurrection in yorkshire and i entered it thinking it would all be serene and lovely and i remember the monk in charge said if there was ever a murder here there would be 40 suspects so that was a useful heads up. suspects so that was a useful heads u ._ ., suspects so that was a useful heads u -. ., ., suspects so that was a useful heads u ._ ., ., . ., suspects so that was a useful heads up. you are changing everyone's ideas of village _ up. you are changing everyone's ideas of village life _ up. you are changing everyone's ideas of village life and - up. you are changing everyone's i ideas of village life and monastery life. what is the parish like that she worked in? you talked about it is not that quiet solace you might expect and it has given you great inspiration for novels. it expect and it has given you great inspiration for novels.— inspiration for novels. it was lovel . inspiration for novels. it was lovely- i _ inspiration for novels. it was lovely. i was _ inspiration for novels. it was lovely. i was a _ inspiration for novels. it was lovely. i was a vicar- inspiration for novels. it was lovely. i was a vicar in - lovely. i was a vicar in northampton, in a big village, small—town, 4500 people. northampton, in a big village, small-town, 4500 people. hotbed of murder quiz — small-town, 4500 people. hotbed of murder quiz funnily _ small-town, 4500 people. hotbed of murder quiz funnily enough _ small-town, 4500 people. hotbed of murder quiz funnily enough when - small-town, 4500 people. hotbed of murder quiz funnily enough when i i murder quiz funnily enough when i went there — murder quiz funnily enough when i went there i _ murder quiz funnily enough when i went there i was _ murder quiz funnily enough when i went there i was in _ murder quiz funnily enough when i went there i was in central - murder quiz funnily enough when i went there i was in central london j went there i was in central london before and when my friend found out i was going to a country parish the first thing he said was, what did the bishop catch you doing? i wanted to specifically go to this parish, near where i grew up. in the first week we had a murder. things happen and if you are a vicar, you tend to find it comes your way so i was dealing with the effects of that. it was a wonderful parish, i loved it and i still do. i had a fantastic time there, bestjob i have ever had. the reason is, i think, you just connect with people in all aspects of their life and you become part of their story. you baptise the kids, married parents, usually in that order, bury the grandparents and before long you have been woven into the story of the community and thatis into the story of the community and that is very rich for someone who is writing fiction. but that is very rich for someone who is writing fiction-— writing fiction. but you stepped back from that _ writing fiction. but you stepped back from that now. _ writing fiction. but you stepped back from that now. i _ writing fiction. but you stepped back from that now. i retired i writing fiction. but you stepped back from that now. i retired in j back from that now. i retired in 2022 and _ back from that now. i retired in 2022 and l _ back from that now. i retired in 2022 and i now _ back from that now. i retired in 2022 and i now live _ back from that now. i retired in 2022 and i now live in - back from that now. i retired in 2022 and i now live in another| 2022 and i now live in another little village in a different part of england and i spent the first six months realising that if you walk around all day going to come hello, to people, if you are wearing a dog collar it is fine and if you are not they tend to call the police so i had to dial down my vicarness. i naturally inquisitive? nosy. i i naturally inquisitive? nosy. i didn't want _ naturally inquisitive? nosy. i didn't want to _ naturally inquisitive? nosy. i didn't want to use _ naturally inquisitive? nosy. i didn't want to use that i naturally inquisitive? nosy. i j didn't want to use that word. naturally inquisitive? nosy. i i didn't want to use that word. i am naturally nosy. — didn't want to use that word. i am naturally nosy, much _ didn't want to use that word. i am naturally nosy, much of— didn't want to use that word. i am naturally nosy, much of -- - didn't want to use that word. i —n naturally nosy, much of —— lots of clergy eye. it is like being a detective because when communities malfunction you have to work out what has happened so you become a detective with the job. i like what has happened so you become a detective with the job.— detective with the 'ob. i like the wa ou detective with the 'ob. i like the way you segued _ detective with the job. i like the way you segued nicely - detective with the job. i like the way you segued nicely into i detective with the job. i like the i way you segued nicely into murder at the monastery then, very good. obviously writing books, podcasting. the rabbit hole detectives, we are recording one this afternoon which is a history podcast. it's me and a norwegian archaeologist and charles spencer, the historian. we take a topic and we try to explain it as thoroughly a5 topic and we try to explain it as thoroughly as we can to the other two, going down as many rabbit holes a5 two, going down as many rabbit holes as we can so i have got bagpipes and pet food, i think, today. what as we can so i have got bagpipes and pet food, i think, today.— pet food, i think, today. what are ou auoin pet food, i think, today. what are you going to _ pet food, i think, today. what are you going to do? _ pet food, i think, today. what are you going to do? bagpipes i pet food, i think, today. what are you going to do? bagpipes and i pet food, i think, today. what are | you going to do? bagpipes and pet food. you going to do? bagpipes and pet food- sorry. _ you going to do? bagpipes and pet food. sorry, soap. _ you going to do? bagpipes and pet food. sorry, soap. history- you going to do? bagpipes and pet food. sorry, soap. history of- food. sorry, soap. history of bagpipes and soap. i food. sorry, soap. history of bagpipes and soap.— food. sorry, soap. history of bagpipes and soap. i was going to nicel into bagpipes and soap. i was going to nicely into the _ bagpipes and soap. i was going to nicely into the lovely _ bagpipes and soap. i was going to nicely into the lovely pictures i bagpipes and soap. i was going to nicely into the lovely pictures you | nicely into the lovely pictures you sent with your lovely dogs stuck in my companions. we are not going to talk about dog food. dogs is a thread... that is very sweet. you is that? ~ ., thread... that is very sweet. you is that? . ., thread... that is very sweet. you is that? ., , thread... that is very sweet. you is that? ~ ., , ., thread... that is very sweet. you is that? ., , ., . ., that? what could be more church of encland that? what could be more church of england than _ that? what could be more church of england than that? _ that? what could be more church of england than that? there _ that? what could be more church of england than that? there is - that? what could be more church of england than that? there is money| england than that? there is money two, me looking rather hefty. daisy on the left, pongo on the right, my companions for 15 years. i sit at home, i write and they stumble around the kitchen because they have both gone a bit blind and deaf. you have talked — both gone a bit blind and deaf. you have talked about the fact it is not necessarily quiet village life but it sounds it. it necessarily quiet village life but it sounds it.— it sounds it. it is lovely, i am fortunate- — it sounds it. it is lovely, i am fortunate. not _ it sounds it. it is lovely, i am fortunate. not only - it sounds it. it is lovely, i am fortunate. not only are i it sounds it. it is lovely, i am fortunate. not only are dogs| it sounds it. it is lovely, i am i fortunate. not only are dogs great company but they are useful tool if you are a vicar because they can repel people when you want them repelled and attract them when you want. one of them tried to bite the bishop once. want. one of them tried to bite the bishop once-— want. one of them tried to bite the bishop once. how does that go down with the bishop? _ bishop once. how does that go down with the bishop? is _ bishop once. how does that go down with the bishop? is that _ bishop once. how does that go down with the bishop? is that why - bishop once. how does that go down with the bishop? is that why you i with the bishop? is that why you were dispatched? it with the bishop? is that why you were dispatched?— with the bishop? is that why you were dispatched? it would take more than a yapping _ were dispatched? it would take more than a yapping dog — were dispatched? it would take more than a yapping dog to _ were dispatched? it would take more than a yapping dog to get _ were dispatched? it would take more than a yapping dog to get you - than a yapping dog to get you defrocked. i think he wants bit the man from christian aid once. i think ou are man from christian aid once. i think you are revealing _ man from christian aid once. i think you are revealing more _ man from christian aid once. i think you are revealing more than - man from christian aid once. i think you are revealing more than is i man from christian aid once. i think| you are revealing more than is wise. i will change tack.— i will change tack. murder at the monastery _ i will change tack. murder at the monastery is _ i will change tack. murder at the monastery is out _ i will change tack. murder at the monastery is out tomorrow. - i will change tack. murder at the monastery is out tomorrow. the | i will change tack. murder at the - monastery is out tomorrow. the third book. do you still get nervous? use say tenth book altogether west of mike you still get nervous before publication about how it will be received? , ., , received? there is a terrifying moment. _ received? there is a terrifying moment. i — received? there is a terrifying moment, i love _ received? there is a terrifying moment, i love writing - received? there is a terrifying moment, i love writing the i received? there is a terrifying . moment, i love writing the books received? there is a terrifying - moment, i love writing the books and you sent it off and it is sent off to be typeset and you sort of let go of it but there is this quite nervous moment between letting go of it and it emerging in the world and seeing what people... it is like sending your kid after school for the first day and you hope they will come back and make friends in the classroom. the previous ones have done very well so i am hoping we will build on that success. it is lovel of will build on that success. it is lovely of you _ will build on that success. it is lovely of you to _ will build on that success. it is lovely of you to come - will build on that success. it is lovely of you to come in - will build on that success. it is lovely of you to come in and talk to us this morning. thank you. murder at the monastery is out tomorrow. let's have a look at portsmouth. we are of course there this morning. jon is there, carol is there. the sun is shining beautifully on the solent, everybody getting ready for the d—day commemorations. special events due to take place this morning. we will be back withjon and carol later. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alice salfield. some of london's biggest hospitals are dealing with the consequences of a cyber attack which led to thousands of operations and blood transfusions being cancelled. king's, guy's and st thomas's, the royal brompton and the evelina children's hospital all declared a critical incident. the attack targeted pathology services leading to operations being cancelled at short notice, and emergency patients having to be diverted elsewhere. nhs officials say they're working with the national cyber security centre to understand exactly what happened there's always going to be two outcomes that they're going to look to try and do. number one is just get the business back up and running again — the sooner they can do that, the sooner that they can get that flow of blood products into the nhs that's so desperately needed. at the same time, there's going to be a bit more of a sort of an understanding and investigation of what happened. a phone snatcher who used an electric motorbike to steal 2a mobiles and drove at nearly 50 miles an hour to evade police has pleaded guilty to theft, according to city of london police. 28—year—old sonny stringer, from islington, was eventually caught by officers who used the city's cctv network to follow him. a look at the tubes now. and there's just some minor delays on the piccadilly line. today's weather — mainly sunny start followed by some clouds and the possibility of a shower. temperatures reaching 17 celsius. that's all for now. bye. good morning, welcome to breakfast with mejon kay in portsmouth, ahead of the the national d—day commemorations. our headlines today. the king and queen willjoin veterans from 191m as events take place here and in france, recalling the day that changed the course of the second world war, and throughout the morning we're hearing from those who were there. still to my dying day, i will treat them as the most wonderful heroes. many were my shipmates. but, nevertheless, they gave their lives for this country. good morning from the normandy coast. this place named in honour of field marshal montgomery. they will be a special service here featuring normandy veterans. i'm sarah campbell in the studio. also in the news this morning. a fiery encounter between sir keir starmer and rishi sunak in theirfirst tv debate of the general election campaign — they clashed over nhs waiting lists and tax. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that is just the start because there is a long list of other things he needs to find the money for. 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. good morning from south parade pier in portsmouth. behind me the isle of wight. on this day 80 years ago, it was said it seemed it would be possible walking across the ships to the isle of wight because there were so many of them. the forecast today, sunshine and showers, the heaviest of which will be in the north. drier conditions in the south. good morning on wednesday, the 5th ofjune. we are on southsea common. exactly 80 years ago today, portsmouth was the headquarters and the main departure point for the military and naval units heading across the channel to sword beach on the normandy coast. for operation overlord, better known as d—day. this morning, this specially built arena, just yards from the shore, will host royalty, politicians, military top brass, but, crucially, d—day veterans and their families for a spectacular and poignant show in memory of that day injune 1944. to inspire and educate the current generation is about what happened there. on the programme we will hear from veterans, their memories and thoughts on this anniversary. some of them have gone to normandy itself. the main events in france will be tomorrow and we will hear from some of those who made the historicjourney back from some of those who made the historic journey back to from some of those who made the historicjourney back to the french coastline as the programme goes on. it will be a special couple of days. it will be a special couple of days. i will tell you how you can tune in and what you can watch over the next couple of days. i do not know whether you can hear, the band is starting to practise. the sound checkis starting to practise. the sound check is beginning. the buglers are there. it will be hosted by dame helen mirren. there will be music and dance and the idea is to remember, commemorate and celebrate and inspire future generations. we will hear more about that and how you can watch later. right now, back to sarah for the rest of the news. studio: thanks, looking glorious in portsmouth. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have clashed on taxes, the nhs, immigration and the cost of living in their first general election debate, on itv. the labour leader challenged the prime minister over hospital waiting lists, whilst rishi sunak took aim at labour's spending plans. our political correspondent iain watson reports. the first debate of the campaign was a head—to—head clash between the prime minister and the man who wanted to replace him. if you're still wondering about the key messages they want to hammer home at this election, wonder no longer. this election is all about a choice — more of the chaos and division we've seen for the last iii years, or turning the page and rebuilding with labour. no—one knows what labour would actually do. but you know what i would do. i'll cut your taxes, protect your pension, and reduce immigration. last night, the party leaders faced questions not from members of parliament, but members of the public. i in the last few years, i found it. very difficult to make ends meet, and the money simply doesn't go far enough _ paula from huddersfield wanted to know what they'd do about the cost of living. my priority has always been to do what i can to support you. that started with bold action like the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently my clear plan to bring inflation back to normal. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say — having heard what you're going through — that the plan is working, it's all all right. but in discussing serious issues — such as nhs waiting lists — there were still some lighter moments. waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7~2~~~ _ laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. both men were asked if they would raise taxes to help meet the many challenges the country faces. but, repeatedly, rishi sunak asserted that labour would have to put taxes up. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that's just the start, because there's a long list of other things that he needs to find the money for. so it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2,000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what's happened here is it's a classic — they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false read—out. the new reform uk leader nigel farage says he wants to make this an immigration election — he'll be one of seven leading party representatives taking part in a bbc debate later this week. but last night, divisions between the main two parties in this issue were obvious. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause. ..putting some of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel. they're making a fortune. 0k... — what are you going to do? just tell everybody. let's ~~ _ let's... and rishi sunak was asked if he was prepared to leave the european convention on human rights. but if i am forced to choose between securing our borders and our country's security or a foreign court, i'm going to choose our country's security every single time. applause. if i'm prime minister, we will not pull out of international agreements and international law which is respected the world over. applause. but the debate wasn't over yet. afterwards, in the crowded spin room, party representatives tried to get voters to see their leaders' performance in the best possible light, and to cast shade on their opponents. what they cannot answer is how they will plug the £71 billion hole in their own tax and spending plans. in fact, like tory britain, the lights have just gone out — this is a metaphor for the state of the country. what has he actually said? i what has he committed to? what is he going to do? because every single i answer is looking back, is having a go, or, "well, what about liz truss?" i we're past that now — l this is about the future. if you haven't made up your mind who to vote for yet, well, there are more debates to come, and — oh, yes — another month of campaigning. iain watson, bbc news. we'rejoined now by our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman. henry, who came out on top..... we have been talking about this £2000 tax rise rishi sunak accuses of being in keir starmer�*s plans and you have an update. it of being in keir starmer's plans and you have an update.— you have an update. it was at the heart of the _ you have an update. it was at the heart of the debate _ you have an update. it was at the heart of the debate and - you have an update. it was at the heart of the debate and claire - heart of the debate and claire coutinho, the energy secretary, she repeated it and said if anything it was an under estimate and she said it was based on projections produced by civil servants in the treasury. she said the permanent secretary, the most important civil servant at the most important civil servant at the treasury would not have signed off on them if they were not accurate. i have a letterfrom off on them if they were not accurate. i have a letter from that man the permanent secretary, to the labour party, in which he said that figure they are using, 2000 per household, includes costings beyond those provided by the civil service. he writes, i agree any costings derived from other sources should not be presented as having been produced by the civil service. i have reminded ministers and advisers they should be the case. so clear today the conservatives are going to try to keep that number at the heart of the political debate. but this is difficult for them because this is the civil service pouring a dose of caution on the way in which they are doing so. caution on the way in which they are doinu so. ., :: :: :: .,, , doing so. that £2000 figure has been said over and — doing so. that £2000 figure has been said over and again. _ doing so. that £2000 figure has been said over and again. if— doing so. that £2000 figure has been said over and again. if you _ doing so. that £2000 figure has been said over and again. if you asked - said over and again. if you asked people what they remember from the debate, that is what they remember. absolutely, and tactically, it was an error from absolutely, and tactically, it was an errorfrom keir absolutely, and tactically, it was an error from keir starmer to take so long to push back against it. he left it unchallenged about 20 minutes, then he tried to quibble with elements of it and later he called it absolute garbage, i think were his words. the conservatives will be delighted we are talking about it because it puts focus on keir starmer and his plans or as the conservative say, his lack of a plan. the bbc will host a debate between leading figures from the seven biggest political parties in great britain on friday. you can watch it from half—seven on bbc one and on the iplayer. several major hospitals in london have declared a critical incident following a cyber—attack. it's led to operations being cancelled at short notice, and emergency patients having to be diverted elsewhere. king's college hospital and guy's and st thomas' are among those affected. the nhs says emergency care continues to be available. results from india's general election show an alliance led by the prime minister, narendra modi, has won enough seats to form the next government. but his bjp party has failed to secure a majority on its own — winning far fewer seats than at the previous election. the results are a personal blow to mr modi, who has dominated the country's politics for a decade. more than 640 million people voted in a marathon seven—week election. the first minister of wales, labour's vaughan gething, will face a vote of no confidence in the senedd this evening. opposition parties have raised a number of concerns, including why mr gething accepted a donation from a millionaire who had convictions for illegally dumping waste. the first minister says he is confident of winning the vote. the family of rob burrow have visited headingley stadium to read tributes left to the leeds rhinos legend. rob's wife lindsey and the couple's three children took in the thousands of messages that have been left by supporters and well—wishers. rob died on sunday at the age of iii, nearly five years after being diagnosed with motor neurone disease. let's go back tojon, who's in portsmouth this morning ahead of the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings. good morning again. not long now until the commemoration start. we could hear the sound of the banned warming up and it looks glorious, such a special dead. yes. a special couple of days. today is the british side of things focused on this arena, specially built in southsea for the national commemoration and tomorrow it will move to normandy itself and we will go there in a moment. but our royal correspondent is here. i was hoping we would have the royal fanfare had for you, they were practising but just finished. the royalfamily for you, they were practising but just finished. the royal family will be in force with the veterans today? we have the king, the queen, the prince of wales, they will take their seats in the royal box. we expect they will meet the veterans, an ever shrinking number of veterans, and they are keen to talk to them, here memories and recollections. the king hosted d—day veterans at buckingham palace this week and told them about his grandfather's memories, a diary entry from his grandfather, king at the time, written on d—day about that monumental day. they will be keen to share memories with veterans today. i think it will be hugely emotional. on stage, we will hear letters from soldiers who did not make it back. they will be read by performers and we will hear from them. some of the veterans on stage themselves. vips, the prime minister, leader of the opposition, but the focus on the veterans because they want to pass on those memories before they themselves pass. they want to tell people what happened on those days. they were monumental, they changed history. so many people they fought with did not make it back from normandy. thank ou. if make it back from normandy. thank you- if you — make it back from normandy. thank you- if you are _ make it back from normandy. thank you. if you are watching _ make it back from normandy. thank you. if you are watching yesterday, john maguire boarded boat over to france with some of the last surviving veterans. john is there this morning on the other side of the channel with the veterans as they prepare to mark this event in their own way. good morning. it must have been a journey? yes, quite a journey yesterday. a trip tinged with some excitement, some commemoration as well. veterans are never quiet. we are in normandy. they have a packed schedule when they get here. they are treated like rock stars. a lot of lumps in throats when veterans are in town in this part of normandy. there will be services today and the big day, the 6th ofjune tomorrow. but first, let's look back at what the last 24—hour has been like for the normandy veterans. for the veterans making the crossing from portsmouth yesterday, there was a full programme of activities. oh, i enjoyed it. the food was brilliant. yes! breakfast, lunch, coffee, more coffee. not enough calvados — yet. music: last post. among the obvious celebration and camaraderie, though, there was time for reflection, time to remember. a wreath was thrown into the sea just off the normandy coast in memory of all those who died in the water before making landfall — the land they had been sent to liberate. i felt sorry for all them poor devils who lost their life. and it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be here. so we're very appreciative of what they did for us all. and still, to my dying day, i will treat them as the most wonderful heroes. many were my shipmates. but, nevertheless, they gave their lives for this country. the veterans�* visit for these men, all aged in their late 90s or older, is full of symbolism. arriving in the french port of ouistreham, what was designated as part of sword beach on d—day, they handed over the torch of commemoration. they handed over the torch their stamina is incredible. they handed over the torch the men are determined to see as many places and meet as many people as possible. sometimes, trying to extract themselves from adoring crowds to keep moving is half the challenge. last night, they were invited to a special reception by the mayor of caen, a city that saw fierce fighting between the nazi occupation force and the allied liberators. they want to honour the veterans and to preserve their legacy. every year, it breaks our heart, because they are very happy to be here and times... and, sometimes, their memories come back and you can see the emotions. they all tell the children that we have very vivid memories from what happened 80 years ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one veteran told me, they feel it's their duty, because they're the ones who were lucky enough to survive. john maguire, bbc news, normandy. a statue there of field marshal montgomery in the town that bears his name, they changed the name to colleville—montgomeryjust on his name, they changed the name to colleville—montgomery just on the normandy coast. i am joined by monty's grandson and alan, happy birthday. ioi. monty's grandson and alan, happy birthday- 101-— monty's grandson and alan, happy birthday. 101. many happy returns. thank you- — birthday. 101. many happy returns. thank you. henry, _ birthday. 101. many happy returns. thank you. henry, you _ birthday. 101. many happy returns. thank you. henry, you are - birthday. 101. many happy returns. thank you. henry, you are a - birthday. 101. many happy returns. i thank you. henry, you are a frequent visitor here. with the spirit of normandy trust. it means so much to them and the local people. it is a special feeling to be them and the local people. it is a specialfeeling to be here. do them and the local people. it is a special feeling to be here. specialfeeling to be here. do you auree? i specialfeeling to be here. do you agree? i do- _ specialfeeling to be here. do you agree? i do- it— specialfeeling to be here. do you agree? i do. it is— specialfeeling to be here. do you agree? i do. it is a _ specialfeeling to be here. do you agree? i do. it is a privileged. --| agree? i do. it is a privileged. —— it is— agree? i do. it is a privileged. —— it is a _ agree? i do. it is a privileged. —— it is a privilege. we watched the veterans— it is a privilege. we watched the veterans yesterday the veterans remembering their comrades who did not come _ remembering their comrades who did not come back. that is what it is all about — not come back. that is what it is allahoul it_ not come back. that is what it is all about. it is a special occasion. and the _ all about. it is a special occasion. and the french, the people of normandy, give us an incredible welcome — normandy, give us an incredible welcome. they were the ones who knew what it _ welcome. they were the ones who knew what it was _ welcome. they were the ones who knew what it was to be occupied, what the impact _ what it was to be occupied, what the impact on _ what it was to be occupied, what the impact on their lives of occupation was: _ impact on their lives of occupation was, and — impact on their lives of occupation was, and therefore, they really appreciate the freedom they have enjoyed _ appreciate the freedom they have enjoyed the last nearly eight years. it was _ enjoyed the last nearly eight years. it was due — enjoyed the last nearly eight years. it was due to people like allen, who sacrificed _ it was due to people like allen, who sacrificed a — it was due to people like allen, who sacrificed a lot and suffered a lot. it is a _ sacrificed a lot and suffered a lot. it is a really— sacrificed a lot and suffered a lot. it is a really great privilege to be a small— it is a really great privilege to be a small part of it —— nearly 80 years — a small part of it -- nearly 80 ears. ~ . . a small part of it -- nearly 80 ears, ~ ., ., , a small part of it -- nearly 80 ears. . ., .,, .., years. we had a brief chat yesterday- _ years. we had a brief chat yesterday. how— years. we had a brief chat yesterday. how many - years. we had a brief chat. yesterday. how many oysters years. we had a brief chat - yesterday. how many oysters did years. we had a brief chat _ yesterday. how many oysters did you eat last night? halli yesterday. how many oysters did you eat last night?— eat last night? half a dozen, which is fine. i have _ eat last night? half a dozen, which is fine. i have eaten _ eat last night? half a dozen, which is fine. i have eaten as _ eat last night? half a dozen, which is fine. i have eaten as many - eat last night? half a dozen, which is fine. i have eaten as many as . eat last night? half a dozen, which| is fine. i have eaten as many as two and a half dozen. years ago. with a good friends friend of mine. no longer with us. in the lausanne area. we met because of rugby union. a great cause. coming back to normandy, you will have been back a few times. what does it mean? what few times. what does it mean? what it means to — few times. what does it mean? what it means to me. _ few times. what does it mean? what it means to me, it _ few times. what does it mean? what it means to me, it never— few times. what does it mean? thrust it means to me, it never needs few times. what does it mean? “iii"usgt it means to me, it never needs to be forgotten. because of what we did and the americans did, everybody else did. to liberate europe, mainly. so many people died. all those guys in bayeux, the british and american cemetery. people say why did you do it? in those days, most people my age joined why did you do it? in those days, most people my agejoined up. before ijoined up i spent three years in the airtraining ijoined up i spent three years in the air training corps. they had two squadrons, number one and numbersi squadron. then went into the air force as sooner psycho. i was in the recruiting office on the day of 18th birthday. == recruiting office on the day of 18th birthda . ., ~ birthday. -- i went into the air force as _ birthday. -- i went into the air force as soon _ birthday. -- i went into the air force as soon as _ birthday. -- i went into the air force as soon as i _ birthday. -- i went into the air force as soon as i could. - birthday. -- i went into the air force as soon as i could. it - birthday. -- i went into the air| force as soon as i could. it was amazing- _ force as soon as i could. it was amazing. people _ force as soon as i could. it was amazing. people come - force as soon as i could. it was amazing. people come up - force as soon as i could. it was amazing. people come up to i force as soon as i could. it was i amazing. people come up to talk force as soon as i could. it was - amazing. people come up to talk to you and one or two of the youngsters. you would talk to them, if they could understand you. and just remember what we did and hope things never get like that again. the whole world has changed, i know. it is still changing. and as for the present changes, well, i can't keep up present changes, well, i can't keep up with them. you present changes, well, i can't keep up with them-— up with them. you and me both. peole up with them. you and me both. people are _ up with them. you and me both. people are coming _ up with them. you and me both. people are coming up _ up with them. you and me both. people are coming up to - up with them. you and me both. people are coming up to you - up with them. you and me both. i people are coming up to you often up with them. you and me both. - people are coming up to you often in tears and incredibly emotional. they say thank you. tears and incredibly emotional. they say thank you-— say thank you. express that gratitude- _ say thank you. express that gratitude. i _ say thank you. express that gratitude. i don't _ say thank you. express that gratitude. i don't know- say thank you. express that - gratitude. i don't know whether anybody else from my unit, 3210, is alive. because several of them have died over the years and not everybodyjoined the reunion. you never know. none of my immediate friends are alive. so never know. none of my immediate friends are alive.— friends are alive. so you are here to seak friends are alive. so you are here to speak for _ friends are alive. so you are here to speak for them? _ friends are alive. so you are here to speak for them? those - friends are alive. so you are here to speak for them? those i - friends are alive. so you are here to speak for them? those i came j to speak for them? those i came throuuh to speak for them? those i came through normandy _ to speak for them? those i came through normandy with. - to speak for them? those i came through normandy with. none i to speak for them? those i came through normandy with. none ofj to speak for them? those i came - through normandy with. none of them are alive, as far as i know. it is strange being the only one. well, ou are strange being the only one. well, you are doing _ strange being the only one. well, you are doing a — strange being the only one. well, you are doing a fantastic- strange being the only one. well, you are doing a fantasticjob - strange being the only one. well, you are doing a fantasticjob of i you are doing a fantasticjob of representing. i you are doing a fantastic “0b of representingfi you are doing a fantastic “0b of representing. i do it, i will do it for as long _ representing. i do it, i will do it for as long as — representing. i do it, i will do it for as long as i _ representing. i do it, i will do it for as long as i can. _ representing. i do it, i will do it for as long as i can. i _ representing. i do it, i will do it for as long as i can. i met - representing. i do it, i will do itj for as long as i can. i met some brilliant guys with this group. people who had been on the russian convoys, like my brother—in—law. that was a hell of a job. i would not have done that for anybody. nor would i volunteer tojump not have done that for anybody. nor would i volunteer to jump out of an aeroplane. i have no desire to be in the airborne regiment. i did not mind landing by sea, as we did. we landed... that is the other significant thing that not many people know. they were on the one landing craft, four lorries and a jeep. when we got onto the beaches, we did not know. we landed onjuno. the canadian beach. we we did not know. we landed on juno. the canadian beach.— the canadian beach. we should have landed on gold _ the canadian beach. we should have landed on gold beach. _ the canadian beach. we should have landed on gold beach. we _ the canadian beach. we should have landed on gold beach. we went - the canadian beach. we should have landed on gold beach. we went up l landed on gold beach. we went up this road and we had a flight lieutenant, a flight sergeant and officer in front. they were stopped by an mp who asked what unit and they told him. the mp said you are not on my list. you are stopping the beach traffic. so we went down this little road. four lorries and the rest of it. and we got in this field, a little field. we pulled up and got out of the lorries. i think the flight sergeant said we might as well stop here tonight, sir, i said. so we spent one night knowing we were in normandy, not knowing where the other three flights were. the next morning, they went over, found the beach master who said they are just up the road. find the beach master who said they are just up the road-— the beach master who said they are just up the road. and you found each other? ten — just up the road. and you found each other? ten minutes _ just up the road. and you found each other? ten minutes from _ just up the road. and you found each other? ten minutes from where - just up the road. and you found each other? ten minutes from where we i other? ten minutes from where we were. we other? ten minutes from where we were- we drove _ other? ten minutes from where we were. we drove there. _ other? ten minutes from where we were. we drove there. they - other? ten minutes from where we were. we drove there. they were i were. we drove there. they were unloading staff on the first airstrip. unloading staff on the first airstri -. ~ . unloading staff on the first airstri. ~ . .,, unloading staff on the first airstri.~ . , unloading staff on the first airstri. ~ . , ., ,, unloading staff on the first airstri.~ . , ., airstrip. which was used. thank you so much. airstrip. which was used. thank you so much- many _ airstrip. which was used. thank you so much. many happy _ airstrip. which was used. thank you so much. many happy returns. - airstrip. which was used. thank you | so much. many happy returns. thank ou ve so much. many happy returns. thank you very much- _ so much. many happy returns. thank you very much- i— so much. many happy returns. thank you very much. iwill— so much. many happy returns. thank you very much. i will see _ so much. many happy returns. thank you very much. i will see you - so much. many happy returns. thank you very much. i will see you next i you very much. i will see you next year. you very much. i will see you next ear. ~ , , , ., ., year. we will definitely see you for our year. we will definitely see you for your 102nd — year. we will definitely see you for your 102nd birthday. _ year. we will definitely see you for your 102nd birthday. there - year. we will definitely see you for your 102nd birthday. there will- year. we will definitely see you for your 102nd birthday. there will be | year. we will definitely see you for| your 102nd birthday. there will be a special service here at colleville—montgomery in a couple of hours. the order of service was printed last night. i think maybe we will have a rendition of happy birthday at the end of it. what do you think? and more oysters will be needed this year and next. john, thank you. here in southsea, they are preparing for the british side of the commemorations. the national commemoration event live on bbc one. dan snow is part of that and he will host some of the coverage. you are all about bringing history to life and this event literally does that.— history to life and this event literally does that. that is right. we want to _ literally does that. that is right. we want to make _ literally does that. that is right. we want to make sure - literally does that. that is right. we want to make sure the - literally does that. that is right. i we want to make sure the memory of what happened in yours. and the legacy and sacrifice of the wonderful veterans like the one we just heard —— what happened end yours. right now at portsmouth, ships passing in the background, if you had been here 18 years ago, you would have seen parts of the largest beat assembled. the would have seen parts of the largest beat assembled.— beat assembled. the perfect place. how crucial — beat assembled. the perfect place. how crucial was _ beat assembled. the perfect place. how crucial was d-day _ beat assembled. the perfect place. how crucial was d-day in _ beat assembled. the perfect place. how crucial was d-day in changing | how crucial was d—day in changing history? it how crucial was d-day in changing histo ? ., , ., how crucial was d-day in changing histo ? ., ., . ., history? it was a day that changed the course of _ history? it was a day that changed the course of history _ history? it was a day that changed the course of history and - history? it was a day that changed the course of history and we i history? it was a day that changed the course of history and we live i the course of history and we live with the consequences of. hitler was struggling by191i1i, but the germans were not out. they were engaged in a massive fight against the soviets on the eastern front. if it were not for d—day, france would not have been liberated, or worse it could have been liberated by the russians. what we are living with today as a consequence of d—day. what we are living with today as a consequence of d-day._ what we are living with today as a consequence of d-day. dame helen mirren will be _ consequence of d-day. dame helen mirren will be on _ consequence of d-day. dame helen mirren will be on the _ consequence of d-day. dame helen mirren will be on the stage - consequence of d-day. dame helen mirren will be on the stage with i mirren will be on the stage with military bands this morning. the royalfamily are here. what military bands this morning. the royal family are here. what are you looking forward to? it is royal family are here. what are you looking forward to?— looking forward to? it is the erfect looking forward to? it is the perfect day- _ looking forward to? it is the perfect day. 80 _ looking forward to? it is the perfect day. 80 years i looking forward to? it is the perfect day. 80 years ago, | looking forward to? it is the i perfect day. 80 years ago, they delayed because of terrible weather, we would have been here in the rain and wind. a beautiful day now and the first public event the king has done since back to health. there are veterans here. it feels like it might be the last big anniversary where we are lucky enough to hear from the men themselves. thea;r where we are lucky enough to hear from the men themselves. they are the focus. from the men themselves. they are the focus- they _ from the men themselves. they are the focus. they will _ from the men themselves. they are the focus. they will sit _ from the men themselves. they are the focus. they will sit next - from the men themselves. they are the focus. they will sit next to i from the men themselves. they are the focus. they will sit next to the i the focus. they will sit next to the royal box, the king and queen and prince of wales. prime position. we sneaked in yesterday and saw rehearsals. it will be tremendous and you can watch it from 10.15 on bbc one. there is a flypast tonight. also on bbc one. and on breakfast tomorrow, coverage across tv, radio and online. we are looking forward to the programme. it's time for news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i“m alice salfield. some of london's biggest hospitals are dealing with the consequences of a cyber attack which led to thousands of operations and blood transfusions being cancelled. king's, guy's and st thomas“s, the royal brompton, and the evelina children's hospital all declared a critical incident. the attack targeted pathology services leading to operations being cancelled at short notice, and emergency patients having to be diverted elsewhere. nhs officials say they're working with the national cyber security centre to understand exactly what happened. there's always going to be two outcomes that they're going to look to try and do. number one is just get the business back up and running again — the sooner they can do that, the sooner that they can get that flow of blood products into the nhs that's so desperately needed. at the same time, there's going to be a bit more of a sort of an understanding and investigation of what happened. a phone snatcher who used an electric motorbike to steal 2a mobiles and drove at nearly 50 miles an hour to evade police — has pleaded guilty to theft, according to city of london police. 28—year—old sonny stringer, from islington, was eventually caught by officers who used the city's cctv network to follow him. they're warning londoners to be vigilant. if you're wearing headphones, you know, if you've got airpods, make sure you've got, like, transparency mode — you can hear what's going on around you — and just being a bit savvy of what you're doing, even if it's just checking up around you. because these bikes, they're electric bikes and you don't hear them — they're completely silent. and when you're in your own world, you're not going to notice anyone coming up round you. a new comedy musical has arrived in the west end from the producers behind fleabag and baby reindeer. it's called kathy & stella solve a murder — and it follows two true—crime podcasters who have to investigate when their favourite author is killed. because they're the last people to see her alive, they get called in by the police, they find themselves at the centre of the story, and then they go on a quest to try and solve her murder, make a success of their true—crime podcast in the process. time for a look at the tubes now. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. it's a chilly but bright start this morning. yesterday's cold front cleared overnight. this was sunrise earlier on — barely any cloud to speak of. so plenty of sunshine around first thing, one or two mist and fog patches for the home counties this morning, but the cloud is going to bubble up. it does bring the chance of an isolated shower. not quite as blustery as yesterday, but temperatures certainly cooler — 17 celsius, the maximum. then overnight tonight should be dry with some clear spells to start with, but then we'll start to see a bit more cloud just edging in from the northwest through the early hours into tomorrow morning. that brings the chance of a shower. the wind drops, minimum temperature six celsius. now high pressure at least starts to try and build in from the west through the course of thursday. we will see some showers for the morning, but that should start to clear — dry for the afternoon. sunny spells, patchy cloud, temperatures tomorrow sneaking up a little to 18 celsius. further through this week, we're never far away from a shower, but plenty of dry weather, some sunshine. temperatures still below average, but recovering a little by the end of the weekend. that's it — you can get the latest on the bbc news app. bye— bye. hello, this is breakfast with sarah campbell. of course we will be back tojon in portsmouth for those d—day commemorations. let's return to our main story now, and rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have clashed on issues from taxes and the cost of living, to the nhs and immigration, during theirfirst general election debate. let's take a look at some of the key moments. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that is just the start because there is a long list of other things he needs to find the money for. it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what happened here is it's a classic. they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false readout. the nhs is still recovering from covid. we went through the best part of two years where the nhs couldn't conduct all the treatments it normally would and it is going to take time to recover— from that. but we are now making progress — the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer... hang on. ..didn't mention to you... hang on. ..which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they are coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. they are down. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause. ..putting some of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel. they're making a fortune. but if i am forced to choose between securing our borders and our country's security or a foreign court, i'm going to choose our country's security every single time. applause. if i'm prime minister, we will not pull out of international agreements and international law which is respected the world over. applause. we're joined now by the shadow paymaster general, labour's jon ashworth. thank you for coming and talking to us. how would you describe it, the debate last night, and how do you think your leader did? by, debate last night, and how do you think your leader did?— think your leader did? a strong performance — think your leader did? a strong performance from keir - think your leader did? a strong j performance from keir starmer think your leader did? a strong i performance from keir starmer and think your leader did? a strong - performance from keir starmer and he outlined the change he wants to this country after 1a years of chaos and decline under the conservatives but i think rishi sunak was exposed as desperate because he lied last night, he lied about labour's tax plans. he said categorically untrue. —— michael what he said was categorically untrue. they will not put up income tax, national insurance, vat. and rishi sunak is so desperate that he is lying stop it reminded me of the lies boris johnson told about partygate. rishi sunak was exposed as no different. when you say lying, are you talking about one thing in particular? one thing i think people will take away from last night is £2000 as a figure because it was mentioned over and over and over again. what is the situation with regard to rishi sunak's claim over and over again that labour would raise taxes by £2000? it that labour would raise taxes by £2000? , ., ,, ., £2000? it is a desperate life. categorically _ £2000? it is a desperate life. categorically untrue. - £2000? it is a desperate life. categorically untrue. every i £2000? it is a desperate life. i categorically untrue. every single policy that labour is putting forward in this campaign is fully costed and fully funded. so when we say we will deliver 2 million more appointments in the nhs, 40,000 more per week, we have to change the non—dumped tax regime to for that. 6500 more teachers recruited for skills and invest in mental health support for schools, we won't levy vat on private school fees. we will not put up income tax, national insurance or vat. so he wasn't lying about that. ., �*, insurance or vat. so he wasn't lying about that. ., �* , :: :: :: insurance or vat. so he wasn't lying about that-— about that. that's £2000 didn't refer to that. _ about that. that's £2000 didn't refer to that. it _ about that. that's £2000 didn't refer to that. it referred - about that. that's £2000 didn't refer to that. it referred to i about that. that's £2000 didn't refer to that. it referred to a i refer to that. it referred to a document that the conservatives have said was signed up by treasury officials and we heard from henry earlier on, the chief permanent secretary to the treasury was saying those figures are not signed off. there you go. a lie in black and white. ~ ., ., ., ., there you go. a lie in black and white. ~ ., ., ., ., , white. what i want to ask you, is beafina white. what i want to ask you, is bearing in _ white. what i want to ask you, is bearing in mind _ white. what i want to ask you, is bearing in mind sir _ white. what i want to ask you, is bearing in mind sir keir - white. what i want to ask you, is bearing in mind sir keir starmer| white. what i want to ask you, is i bearing in mind sir keir starmer is aiming to be next prime minister, he did not make that clear. if you watch that debate, you would come out and think that about £2000, there was credence to the figure, why did he not put forward the evidence that he had in order to challenge that? you evidence that he had in order to challenge that?— evidence that he had in order to challenae that? ., ., , ., ., challenge that? you have put forward the evidence. — challenge that? you have put forward the evidence, it _ challenge that? you have put forward the evidence, it is _ challenge that? you have put forward the evidence, it is a _ challenge that? you have put forward the evidence, it is a slam _ challenge that? you have put forward the evidence, it is a slam dunk i the evidence, it is a slam dunk proof of rishi sunak's desperate life. ., . ~' proof of rishi sunak's desperate life. ., . ,, ., life. that the neck in a letter written two _ life. that the neck in a letter written two days _ life. that the neck in a letter written two days ago - life. that the neck in a letter written two days ago to i life. that the neck in a letter i written two days ago to labour, did he not know about that? that written two days ago to labour, did he not know about that?— he not know about that? that is roof he not know about that? that is proof that _ he not know about that? that is proof that rishi _ he not know about that? that is proof that rishi sunak _ he not know about that? that is proof that rishi sunak light i he not know about that? that is proof that rishi sunak light and | proof that rishi sunak light and just as borisjohnson lied about partygate, rishi sunak is lying here. it proves he is no different and know better. every policy we put forward like our plan to deliver 2 million more points in the hs, to cut energy bills for good with a windfall tax on the gas and oil producers, that will allow us to bring energy bills down and reinvest —— invest in renewablejobs here in the northwest. explained where the money is coming from. rishi sunak in a desperate get way has racked up 71 billion unfunded commitments, cannot say where the money is coming from. you will put up tax just as he has done the last 14 years. you you will put up taxjust as he has done the last 14 years.— done the last 14 years. you are countin: done the last 14 years. you are counting at _ done the last 14 years. you are counting at £46 _ done the last 14 years. you are counting at £46 billion - done the last 14 years. you are counting at £46 billion by i done the last 14 years. you are i counting at £46 billion by getting rid of national insurance. that is not a promise by the conservatives so what you are accusing rishi sunak of doing, in effect it is doing exactly the same and it confuses the electorate. it confuses the voter. how can they know who is telling the truth? , , ., , ,, ., ,, truth? jeremy hunt and rishi sunak ut on truth? jeremy hunt and rishi sunak put on leaflets _ truth? jeremy hunt and rishi sunak put on leaflets and _ truth? jeremy hunt and rishi sunak put on leaflets and come _ truth? jeremy hunt and rishi sunak put on leaflets and come round i put on leaflets and come round studio say they are getting rid of the tax. it is £46 billion. that can only be funded by taxing pensioners more, cutting the pension, cutting national health service. rishi sunak, ratherthan national health service. rishi sunak, rather than lying about labour's plans, is to complain about his own reckless plans. thea;r labour's plans, is to complain about his own reckless plans.— his own reckless plans. they have said this is _ his own reckless plans. they have said this is an _ his own reckless plans. they have said this is an aspiration, - his own reckless plans. they have said this is an aspiration, not i his own reckless plans. they have said this is an aspiration, not the | said this is an aspiration, not the pledge, and so using that £46 billion number is confusing, perhaps misleading. i billion number is confusing, perhaps misleadina. ., billion number is confusing, perhaps misleadina. . , ., misleading. i have never been on the sofa before. — misleading. i have never been on the sofa before. i— misleading. i have never been on the sofa before, i have _ misleading. i have never been on the sofa before, i have done _ misleading. i have never been on the sofa before, i have done your - sofa before, i have done your interviews down the line. if i said we had a £46 billion aspiration you would quite rightly be asking me whether money is coming from. if he has a 46 billion per commitments he has a 46 billion per commitments he has to explain what he will put to fund it. is it the pension he will put, the nhs, or more attacks on pensioners? he refuses to answer that question. you would rather lie about labour's plans. [30 that question. you would rather lie about labour's plans.— about labour's plans. do you understand _ about labour's plans. do you understand why _ about labour's plans. do you understand why it _ about labour's plans. do you understand why it is - about labour's plans. do you understand why it is so i about labour's plans. do you i understand why it is so confusing for people watching? the iss, paul johnson, he has talked about there is no openness about the real choices from the winners of this election —— from the ifs. there is a huge public spending black hole. that will have to be paid for. all of these pledges will have to be paid for but if you are not raising taxes, where will the money come from? it is not tinkering around the edges, big money is needed. we have exlain edges, big money is needed. we have explain some — edges, big money is needed. we have explain some of— edges, big money is needed. we have explain some of the _ edges, big money is needed. we have explain some of the changes, - edges, big money is needed. we have explain some of the changes, the i explain some of the changes, the windfall tax on the big gas and oil producers to fund plans to cut energy bills for good and create thousands ofjobs. we have taken a tough choice to put vat on private school fees but that will allow us to recruit more teachers in state schools. we will close the non—domicile loophole for the super, super wealthy to take advantage of. that will deliver to million more a point was in the nhs. if you cannot get out of the house because you need a hip replacement, getting that operation sooner is transformative for your life. that is not tinkering, it is important for people. tinkering, it is important for --eole. ., , tinkering, it is important for ..eole, ., , ., , tinkering, it is important for --eole. ., , ., people. people are telling us that the want people. people are telling us that they want detail _ people. people are telling us that they want detail and _ people. people are telling us that they want detail and they - they want detail and they particularly want manifesto detail. when is your manifesto going to be produced, when our vote is going to read and see for themselves what they have planned, costed? i read and see for themselves what they have planned, costed? i don't have the specific _ they have planned, costed? i don't have the specific date _ they have planned, costed? i don't have the specific date of _ they have planned, costed? i don't have the specific date of the i have the specific date of the manifesto launch, but people will see the manifestos very soon, i am absolutely sure. when the manifesto comes out you will see that every single one of our policies is fully costed and we will explain where every penny piece is coming from. rishi sunak cannot give you that promise because he has racked up billions of pounds are commitments with no idea how to pay for them. working people with more tax will pay for them, or putting up mortgagesjust pay for them, or putting up mortgages just like with liz truss. looking at the front pages and the pole that was released immediately after the debate last night, it was fairly tight, but the yougov poll, 49% for keir starmer, 51 for rishi sunak. another leaders debate later this month. does sir keir starmer need to be better with another poll has come out which has it the other way around but polls will come and go. the only one that matters is the general election day and if people want change— want change after 14 years of failure does _ want change after 14 years of failure does migrate - want change after 14 years of failure does migrate people i want change after 14 years of i failure does migrate people don't want to wake of the day after the election and switch on the bbc and hear you saying last night rishi sunak has got five more years, if people don't want five more years of the tories running down our nhs they have to vote and vote for labour and thatis have to vote and vote for labour and that is the only poll that matters. jon ashworth, thank you for coming in, anotherfour weeks to jon ashworth, thank you for coming in, another four weeks to go. jon ashworth, thank you for coming in, anotherfour weeks to go. thank you. let's go back tojon, who's in portsmouth this morning ahead of the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings. getting close now. it really is. tomorrow is the actual 80th anniversary of d—day, but today is the uk side of the commemorations. inside this arena, which has been specially built on the southsea common here in portsmouth. a stage which will host a special service of celebration and remembrance. both of those things this morning in the presence of the king and queen, and in the presence of veterans. people who were actually there, who crossed the channel to normandy 80 years ago this week. some of them returning here today in their 90s, some of them. more than —— some of them in them. more than —— some of them in the 90s, some over 100. very much at the 90s, some over 100. very much at the height of the special service that will be shown live on bbc one a bit later this morning. we thought we would run through with you the events that you might want to catch over the next couple of days across tv and on the iplayer, radio and bbc sounds. the event here is hosted by the ministry of defence and is that uk's the ministry of defence and is that uk“s national commemorative event on southsea common. veterans, the king and queen and thousands of members of the public will be among the guests. lots of schoolchildren will be here to learn about the past. you can watch the event live on bbc one from 10:15. we came to the rehearsals yesterday, it will be very special indeed. tonight at 9.00, the commonwealth war graves commission will host a vigil at the bayeux war cemetery in normandy. it isa it is a very french experience, you can watch that event live tonight on bbc one. tomorrow morning at 6.25, a british army piper will play a lament on the beaches of arromanches in normandy to mark 80 years to the minute that d—day began. we'll bring that to you live on breakfast tomorrow. charlie will be there. and from 8:30 tomorrow, the king and the prime minister will join veterans for the first ever national commemoration at the british normandy memorial in ver—sur—mer. you might remember, we have talked about that memorial and the significance of it as the campaign to get it built and the fundraising over the last few years. it will be the centrepiece of those commemorations tomorrow in normandy. today, the focus is here on southsea. in a couple of minutes, we'll head to carol to get today's weather forcast. 80 years ago the weather report played a vital role in d—day, as thousands of aircraft and vessels gathered here waiting for the right conditions to head to nazi—occupied france. matt taylor reports. newsreel: heading out to sea after a 24-hour delay - because of the weather. it was one of the most crucial weather forecasts of all time. the lives of more than 160,000 troops relied on it and it could determine the outcome of the war. months and years of waiting were over. in 1944, three forecast units — two british and one american — fed information back to southwick house, near portsmouth. and it was this man, group captainjames stagg, responsible for advising the military. it was really difficult to go into that room and see poor general eisenhower with his head on one side and he's just staring, waiting to hear what the forecast would be. because, normally, we had got accustomed to him being such a bright and a spritely man, going about with a broad grin as if he were almost a gymnastic instructor. 80 years ago, unlike today, there was very little technology available to help. our supercomputer today does 14,000 trillion calculations every second, and we feed millions upon millions of bits of data into that supercomputer every day, as well. back in stagg“s day, a handful of observations across the atlantic. the pressure of forecasting even one day ahead, whereas now, these current circumstances, with the advances of technology, we can forecast several days ahead. so, catherine, what are these? so these are the original weather maps from the d—day period. and these take us through the 4th ofjune, where they were making the decision on whether they could invade on the 5th, and then the 5th ofjune, when they were finding the weather window to invade on the 6th. now we know the american forecasters and eisenhower wanted to go in the 5th. this is from the british met office, isn't it? yes. what did they spot that made them decide that, no, we shouldn't go on the 5th? so if we have a look at the chart for the 5th, you'll see they got the forecast absolutely right because there's a weather front sitting smack in the english channel there, which brought all of those conditions that they were talking about. and quite tight isobars, as well, so it would have been very, very unpleasant conditions for trying to cross the channel. but, also, this weather chart, one o'clock in the morning on the 5th ofjune... yes. ..was the one that they used to try to identify the weather window, which would enable them to invade on the 6th. it was very marginal. it was just about good enough to go. stagg, the forecaster, always knew it would be marginal, but it was really very marginal. but in the end, that marginal forecast helped with the element surprise and a tactical success. absolutely, yes. now, the germans had their own weather team. did they not spot that, as well? they hadn't broken the allied codes. so they've got literally half the amount of data that the allied forecasters had. so they didn't have the same information. they didn't think we were going to do it, did they? they didn't think we were going to invade, no, because they didn't have that extra information. the element of surprise crucial. so, in the end, it was the right decision. i would say so, yes. as it turned out, weather conditions on the 6th were worse than expected. winds were stronger, tides higher. but at the next window for invasion, two weeks later, the english channel experienced its worst storms in 20 years, which could have cost even more lives and more time. matt taylor, bbc news. timing absolutely crucial on d—day. what a fascinating piece from our matt. we need to get the weather for today and the organisers of this event on southsea common will be absolutely delighted because right now at least the skies are blue and the sun is shining and caroljoins us here in portsmouth and she can tell us about the significance of where you are stop good morning. good morning. iam good morning. i am on the south parade pier in portsmouth and what view we have. i want to show you a still photo taken on this very day 80 years ago showing the troops getting ready to board the ships and the landing craft to head out across the landing craft to head out across the solent to the normandy beaches. if i get out of the way we can see what i'm talking about. this picture is from this very spot and there were many ships along the shore and it seemed as though it would be possible to walk from portsmouth to the isle of wight across their decks. 160,000 troops landed in normandy, 27,000 of them left from portsmouth and also gosport. the sun is beating down here today. a cold start to the day but it is warming up quite nicely now. the forecast for us all today is a real mixture of sunshine and showers, some blustery. the strongest winds today will be across the north—west of scotland, and here is where we will see the heaviest of the showers. again, some with hail, thunder and lightning and other tops of the mountains of scotland, some snow. what is happening is we had a weather front that swept three yesterday, some rain. low pressure is driving our weather and you can see from the isobars where it would be windy. not as windy in the south as it was yesterday. we start off with some clear skies. we also have a lot of sunshine where we have the clear skies from the word go but also some showers around. rain crossing scotland, through the southern uplands and we are back into the showers, heavy and potentially thundery and the brisk gusty winds in the north—west. temperatures today ranging from ten in the north to 17 as we sweep down towards the south. if you are in the sunshine and out of the breeze, that will feel quite pleasant. as we head through the evening and overnight, we have a new weather front that comes into the north of scotland, and another that comes in across wales and three cheshire towards lincolnshire. both of them bringing some rain. underthe lincolnshire. both of them bringing some rain. under the clear skies, lincolnshire. both of them bringing some rain. underthe clearskies, it will be a cold night, temperatures quite widely in single figures, and low single figures for some. into tomorrow, the remnants of the front across northern england and north wales sink south as a band of rain and showers. a lot of sunshine. some showers in scotland and northern ireland, most frequent across a fine of scotland with brisk winds. as we head into friday, and the weather front comes into the north west and sinks southwards. ahead of it, some spells, but the cloud will build as we go through the day in the front progresses southwards. behind it, a mixture of sunshine and showers and some will be heavy and thundery with hail in the north accompanied by brisk winds. worth mentioning before i go the pollen levels. grass pollen, levels are low only in scotland, and for the rest they are moderate or high. time to get white handkerchiefs out again. it is lookin: handkerchiefs out again. it is looking glorious. _ handkerchiefs out again. it is looking glorious. we heard from matt the importance of the weather 80 years ago, so phenomenally important. when you are talking about commemorations, itjust makes the whole commemorations so much more special when we are looking at visions, looking at sites like that, the sun across the solent and tomorrow in normandy, as well. absolutely right. you cannot help but think how the troops must have felt when they were leaving our shores to cross the solent, the english channel, to get to normandy. they must have been terrified. i have been putting myself in that position all morning and it makes you feel really sad, actually. they were so brave.— you feel really sad, actually. they were so brave. , ., , ., ., were so brave. they wear, you are so riuht. were so brave. they wear, you are so riht. it were so brave. they wear, you are so right- it is — were so brave. they wear, you are so right. it is lovely. _ were so brave. they wear, you are so right. it is lovely. we _ were so brave. they wear, you are so right. it is lovely. we will— were so brave. they wear, you are so right. it is lovely. we will be - were so brave. they wear, you are so right. it is lovely. we will be back i right. it is lovely. we will be back again in portsmouth with carol and jon. just such a special date both today and tomorrow with those commemorations continuing. when fearne cotton isn't knocking out “90s bangers on radio 2 or podcasting about mental health, she's probably writing. fearne“s already published more than ten non—fiction books but now she's written her first novel — and she's here to tell us more. iam very i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite — i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite a _ i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite a journey _ i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite a journey for _ i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite a journey for you - i am very pleased to be here. it has been quite a journey for you over i been quite a journey for you over does not will remember you being one of the real voices of radio in america one then you took a step back and into writing.— back and into writing. none of it was planned. — back and into writing. none of it was planned. i— back and into writing. none of it was planned, i have _ back and into writing. none of it was planned, i have to - back and into writing. none of it was planned, i have to be i back and into writing. none of it l was planned, i have to be honest. back and into writing. none of it. was planned, i have to be honest. i left radio i, i enjoyed it there, i have been broadcasting for much longer than that but i felt i needed a real change. my mental health was not great personally and i don't know what i was going to do next but i knew i needed to switch everything up i knew i needed to switch everything up and the first thing i did was write a book called happy, maybe seven or eight years ago now, and that was received well, which i was very grateful for, that was talking about my own mental health. that led to this whole world of creating happy place, and to toggle its my brand, we have podcast, festival,. i have found this passion for writing and expressing how i'm feeling and what i am observing through the world through writing. it is a passion and writing fiction is completely different. tell passion and writing fiction is completely different. tell us about the story because _ completely different. tell us about the story because it _ completely different. tell us about the story because it has _ completely different. tell us about the story because it has an - the story because it has an interesting premise. the the story because it has an interestin: remise. , ., ., ., , interesting premise. the protagonist is a lad in interesting premise. the protagonist is a lady in her— interesting premise. the protagonist is a lady in her 30s _ interesting premise. the protagonist is a lady in her 30s called _ interesting premise. the protagonist is a lady in her 30s called jade - interesting premise. the protagonist is a lady in her 30s called jade and i is a lady in her 30s called jade and she has real difficulty saying what she has real difficulty saying what she wants. a people pleaser, find it high to say no. she has big characters in her life that she finds tricky and doesn't feel she can stand up to them. the fantastical element of the book is these scripts that jade keeps finding strewn around the place. if you imagine a theatre script, and they have scenes from her life that have not happened yet. so by finding these scripts, which of course freak her out, she starts to notice that she is not really saying what she wants to say or she is not saying no when she means no. or she is not saying anything at all in these dynamics with people in her life. so she has that clarity and through the ark of the story she tries to doctor the scripts, tries to find her own voice, so it is her realjourney of finding her confidence and her voice. ., . ~' finding her confidence and her voice. ., ., ~ ., ., voice. you talk about the fact that this is the first _ voice. you talk about the fact that this is the first fiction _ voice. you talk about the fact that this is the first fiction novel - voice. you talk about the fact that this is the first fiction novel but i this is the first fiction novel but from the journey you have been on over the last nine years there are elements that you have brought into it, in terms of finding yourself and feeling confident about yourself, mental health aspects.— feeling confident about yourself, mental health aspects. without a doubt. i couldn't _ mental health aspects. without a doubt. i couldn't write _ mental health aspects. without a doubt. i couldn't write a - mental health aspects. without a doubt. i couldn't write a book - doubt. i couldn't write a book unless there was some nod to mental health or growth or something in there. it is a relatable subject most of us have felt we can't say what we have really felt with one particular person or a scenario. although particular person or a scenario. althouthade is absolutely not me, there are life experiences that i have definitely felt deeply which i wanted jade to experience and learn from, so i have channelled a lot of that in there but it is really fun and light and there are lots of drama in there which was fun to play around with, but the process of writing it was entirely different, completely new... writing it was entirely different, completely new. . .— writing it was entirely different, completely new... how do you write, do ou completely new... how do you write, do you have — completely new... how do you write, do you have a — completely new... how do you write, do you have a place _ completely new... how do you write, do you have a place in _ completely new. .. how do you write, do you have a place in your— completely new... how do you write, do you have a place in your house - do you have a place in your house where you shut the door? kitchen, then i can get _ where you shut the door? kitchen, then i can get to — where you shut the door? kitchen, then i can get to cattle, _ where you shut the door? kitchen, then i can get to cattle, there - where you shut the door? kitchen, then i can get to cattle, there are l then i can get to cattle, there are snacks. biscuits and toast and all that sort of thing going on —— i can get to the kettle. i would sometimes write for an hour before the kids on the school run and these snapshots of time, focus and get as much on as i could. ., ., .,, ., ~ _, i could. how long has it taken you? when ou i could. how long has it taken you? when you have _ i could. how long has it taken you? when you have kids, _ i could. how long has it taken you? when you have kids, trying - i could. how long has it taken you? when you have kids, trying to - i could. how long has it taken you? when you have kids, trying to find l when you have kids, trying to find those snippets is not easy. it when you have kids, trying to find those snippets is not easy.- those snippets is not easy. it was not but it was _ those snippets is not easy. it was not but it was pure _ those snippets is not easy. it was not but it was pure escapism. - those snippets is not easy. it was not but it was pure escapism. it | not but it was pure escapism. it took two years but every time i had those little snapshots where i could dive into the story, it was pure joy so it never felt laboured or dive into the story, it was pure joy so it neverfelt laboured or an effort. it was pure fun. there was a lot of hours and a lot of work but i loved every minute of it. who loved every minute of it. who proofread _ loved every minute of it. who proofread it? _ loved every minute of it. who proofread it? nobody - loved every minute of it. who proofread it? nobody in - loved every minute of it. who proofread it? nobody in my i loved every minute of it. who - proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship _ proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship wise, _ proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship wise, so _ proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship wise, so it - proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship wise, so it was - proofread it? nobody in my actual life, friendship wise, so it was all| life, friendship wise, so it was all professional. i life, friendship wise, so it was all professional-— professional. i was going to say, miaht professional. i was going to say, might anyone — professional. i was going to say, might anyone recognise - professional. i was going to say, . might anyone recognise themselves professional. i was going to say, - might anyone recognise themselves in the characters? i might anyone recognise themselves in the characters?— the characters? i have taken great care to make _ the characters? i have taken great care to make sure _ the characters? i have taken great care to make sure they _ the characters? i have taken great care to make sure they are - the characters? i have taken great care to make sure they are very i care to make sure they are very different. jade has a nightmare sister, dramatic nightmare sister. i have the most lovely, chilled out brother ever. so i have tried to ensure that all the characters are almost the opposite of what i have in my life. almost the opposite of what i have in m life. ., _, , almost the opposite of what i have inm life. ., , ., ~ ., in my life. that could be awkward otherwise- _ in my life. that could be awkward otherwise. people _ in my life. that could be awkward otherwise. people might- in my life. that could be awkward otherwise. people might read - in my life. that could be awkward | otherwise. people might read into in my life. that could be awkward i otherwise. people might read into it and no, is otherwise. people might read into it and go. is that _ otherwise. people might read into it and go, is that about _ otherwise. people might read into it and go, is that about me?! - otherwise. people might read into it and go, is that about me?! i - otherwise. people might read into it and go, is that about me?! i can i and go, is that about me?! i can assure you it is not quite right here, right now, it is not you. it is not. ., , , ., is not. that must be a consideration. - is not. that must be a consideration. the i is not. that must be a i consideration. the difference between doing your usual nonfiction novels to this is that it is your imagination and inevitably you are life experience will be put into the pages, almost subconsciously. i think so. it is weird. because some people might know a bit about me, i don't want people to think of me as jade, i have taken great care to ensure she is not me, but of course people might still hear my voice when they are reading her character, so that was tricky, definitely. but it was just a great exercise in learning a new skill set and getting that discipline down, and it was a joy- that discipline down, and it was a joy. pa. that discipline down, and it was a 'o . �* , that discipline down, and it was a joy. a bit nerve-racking? terrifying- _ joy. a bit nerve-racking? terrifying. not _ joy. a bit nerve-racking? i terrifying. not nerve-racking, terrifying. not nerve—racking, terrifying. some reason it feels more exposing than writing nonfiction. if you relate to my experience, great, if not, no problem but this feels like this precious little idea i have incubated for a couple of years now and itjust feels precious to put out there that i have to relinquish control and it is out of my hands now. if you like it, great, if you don't, you don't. it now. if you like it, great, if you don't, you don't.— don't, you don't. it has been printed. _ don't, you don't. it has been printed. the _ don't, you don't. it has been printed, the cover _ don't, you don't. it has been printed, the cover is - don't, you don't. it has been printed, the cover is out i don't, you don't. it has been i printed, the cover is out there. it is delightful to see you, thank you so much for coming in and all the best with the book. scripted is out tomorrow. stay with us — headlines coming up. live from london, this is bbc news. clashes on immigration, taxes and the nhs — but who was the victor in last night's leadership debate? campaigning continues across the country. controversy this morning as a top silver surfer�*s letter cast doubts on the prime minister's claims on labour's tax plans. —— civil servant's labour's tax plans. —— civil serva nt�*s letter. campaigning continues across the country. we'll focus on two battleground constituencies. and commemorations begin for the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings. hello. some breaking news for you this morning — at the bbc has learned the chief treasury civil servant wrote to labour at two days ago saying the conservatives' assessments of their tax plans should not be presented as having been produced by the civil service. they also said that ministers had been reminded on this. the tax claim was at the heart of rishi sunak's 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