jacob zuma's newly—formed mk party exceeded expectations to finish third. but the party says it is considering challenging the results in court. and so begins a new era in south african politics — as well as new challenges for president cyril ramaphosa, who himself helped negotiate the end of apartheid. the bbc�*s africa correspondent, barbara plett usher, reports. it had been a slow and steady day, and then this. the former president, now the head of the upstart mk party, an unexpected challenge to the anc... ..already reeling from voter anger over economic mismanagement and corruption scandals. jacob zuma has created quite a stir here. he's made a rock star entrance. his party came third, with an unexpectedly strong showing, taking a lot of votes away from the anc... ..and still trying to take more. he announced he had evidence of election rigging, said he was considering a demand for a full revote. the results aren't official yet, but they're clear. the anc has lost the outright majority it held for 30 years, the most dramatic political shift since the end of apartheid. this is uncharted territory. we ask for all electoral stakeholders to please remain calm, for leaders to lead this nation at this time and for voices of reason to continue to prevail. the anc was born out of the struggle against apartheid, the violence of white minority rule that kept black people separate and unequal. archive: there's mr mandela. mr nelson mandela — a free man. the moment of triumph — nelson mandela released from prison, the first black president in south africa's new democracy. the downfall marked byjacob zuma. he presided over a period of rampant corruption. now he's making a comeback. understandably, i'm very disappointed. but this anc veteran says the party hasn't recovered since then. we have failed. we talk about renewal, the renewal of the anc, and it would take the form of making sure that elements who are really corrupt are removed from the organisation, and we've really failed to act decisively to do that. the anc is still the biggest party, but it needs to find partners to share power. south africa now faces weeks of turbulent coalition talks. barbara plett usher, bbc news, johannesburg. for more, i spoke to managing editor for semafor africa, alexis akwagyiram. he was in south africa reporting on the election this week. first of all, how big of a blow for these initial results for the anc?— for these initial results for the anc? , , ., ., the anc? this is a huge load to the anc? this is a huge load to the anc, the anc? this is a huge load to the anc. i — the anc? this is a huge load to the anc, i mean, _ the anc? this is a huge load to the anc, i mean, really, - the anc? this is a huge load to the anc, i mean, really, this. the anc, i mean, really, this is a sizeable chip. it's the biggest political change to the landscape since 1994, since the end of apartheid, and the anc just was not ready. they did not see it coming, and it was a massive blow because they have gone from controlling everything to know having to seek control on major decisions because they are going to have to enter into a coalition government.— to enter into a coalition government. to enter into a coalition covernment. , , government. this will be the first time. — government. this will be the first time, as _ government. this will be the first time, as you _ government. this will be the first time, as you said, - government. this will be the first time, as you said, the l first time, as you said, the anc has to coalition partner. what are the options on table here? how will the party go about finding a political partner to work with? in terms ofthe partner to work with? in terms of the mechanics _ partner to work with? in terms of the mechanics of _ partner to work with? in terms of the mechanics of how - partner to work with? in terms of the mechanics of how they l partner to work with? in terms | of the mechanics of how they go about it, first of all, they have to reach some sort of consensus internally. that in itself is likely to be quite fraught, because like any political party, there are various wings within the anc. now, as far as he that, looking externally, there are two likely options. there's forming some kind of coalition government with the democratic alliance, and that's essentially a centre—right party, pro—business, and the other option is to go to the left and form an alliance with mk, the party the former presidentjacob zuma, only six months old, and is the real story of the selection, and as well as that, the economic freedom fighters, and both mk and economic freedom fighters called for quite hard left policies, such as nationalising banks, nationalising mines. so there are key differences there. it's either a slight push to the left, with the latter group, orto push to the left, with the latter group, or to the right with the da. one other thing that osha should be bared in mind is the demagogic alliance is fundamentally a white party. given the history of apartheid, that also adds a layer of complexity to the negotiations —— democratic alliance. can complexity to the negotiations -- democratic alliance. can you mention this _ -- democratic alliance. can you mention this mk _ -- democratic alliance. can you mention this mk party, - -- democratic alliance. can you mention this mk party, a - -- democratic alliance. can you mention this mk party, a young j mention this mk party, a young party? it came in third place, a huge surprise? aha, party? it came in third place, a huge surprise?— a huge surprise? a huge surprise- _ a huge surprise? a huge surprise. this _ a huge surprise? a huge surprise. this is - a huge surprise? a huge surprise. this is the - a huge surprise? a hugel surprise. this is the party a huge surprise? a huge - surprise. this is the party set “p surprise. this is the party set up a jacob zuma six month ago. he is the front man of it. it is light on policies, but essentially they are saying is what they call black progressives, and they say what they want is a redistribution of wealth. they said more than anything, theyjust want of wealth. they said more than anything, they just want to help the people. so i think it's fair and if you call it essentially populist party. and it's fronted budget of zuma, who is a very charismatic performer in elections —— fronted byjacob zimmer. he was ramaphosa —positive predecessor as president, and under him, he was... it was a period in which there were systemic corruption, and this is something that came up and this is something that came up time and time and time again, the idea that areas leaders of the state had been handed over to private interests, cronies, and so he was largely discredited, but she remains an incredible political force who is incredibly popular, and so he has harnessed that popularity and we are seeing that with the success of his party. we and we are seeing that with the success of his party.— success of his party. we are still waiting _ success of his party. we are still waiting for _ success of his party. we are still waiting for these - success of his party. we are still waiting for these final l still waiting for these final results which are expected on sunday, but it is likely that the next question will be, what will happen now with president cyril ramaphosa? and what kind of mandate will he have and will he be able to govern the country as president going forward?— forward? that's the key question _ forward? that's the key question and _ forward? that's the key question and that's - forward? that's the key question and that's the | forward? that's the key - question and that's the next step that needs to be answered. essentially, in terms of his mandate, yes, he does have a mandate, yes, he does have a mandate, just he does not have the mandate for the anc as the sole party of government, but in the next question is, is it even up to him as to whether he has a mandate? it is really up to his party, because what i'm hearing is their discussions going on as to whether he is the man to lead or not, because as mentioned before, there are various wings within the party. so he needs to win over the party in the first instance, to decide if he is the man to move forward, because he might want to form with the likes of the da, for example, that is what i'm hearing, but his might feel otherwise, and so that will affect all the calculations of his future and his possible mandate. —— but his party might feel otherwise. two key right—wing figures in israel's government are threatening to leave their posts if prime minister benjamin netanyahu agrees to an israeli peace proposal announced by president biden. israel's national security minister, itamar ben—gvir, says any deal that results in a ceasefire before hamas is destroyed will be a victory for terrorism. israel's finance minister also opposes any truce before hamas is wiped out. the peace proposals are backed by the israeli opposition and mediating countries. hamas reacted positively to the plans. the united states, egypt, and qatar released a joint statement on saturday urging the two sides to reach an agreement. the uk's foreign secretary, lord cameron, told the bbc his thoughts on the deal. i think what the deal contains is a staged process for the release of hostages in the first phase and a pause in the fighting, and then it goes on to a second stage with a longer pause, with more israeli withdrawals and the release of further hostages, then going on to a third stage, hopefully without any return to fighting, when you get on to the rebuilding of gaza. now, of course, all these plans are incredibly difficult to put in place. but fundamentally why i think this is a moment we should seize to try and bring this conflict to an end permanently is that, you know, it's one thing to call for a ceasefire, but of course, if you can't put in place the conditions that make a ceasefire sustainable, then it won't last. and this is an attempt to start to put those conditions in place, because we all know you've got to look at issues of israeli security and issues of palestinian statehood alongside each other in order to make a deal last and to solve this problem. well, earlier, ispoke to lieutenant general mark schwartz, former us security coordinator of the israel—palestinian authority. we heard there, israeli far—right government partners now threatening to leave the coalition, essentially topple netanyahu's government, if this deal goes through. how conflicted do you think the government is over this proposal? i think there's confliction inside of the government and there's certainly confliction inside of the israeli populace. as the elements of this current proposal were rolled out by our president in the united states and more broadly in the international community, i think if you're the families of the hostages, certainly the hostages themselves, if you're hamas and if you're the palestinians living inside of gaza, you are very pleased with the plan, but in terms of the right direction for immediate and long—term security, for the israeli people, it falls well short, because there's no discussion, at least in the plan, about, other than a statement that those responsible for october 7th, israel still has the right to pursue those and bring them to justice — so that implies their intelligence services and special operations forces probably continuing to pursue. but there's a major security gap that will be created by the withdrawal of israeli forces with no security replacement inside of gaza, starting with the major urban centres and then ultimately, if you go to phase two, where you see the withdrawal of forces. so i can certainly appreciate the concern expressed by those within the israeli populace, and even here in our own country, in terms of, if the us is saying that hamas is an international terrorist organisation, since the early �*90s, certainly... we heard president biden, didn't we, saying to israel and messaging towards netanyahu, essentially, look, he does not believe that hamas still is a threat to israel. he made a big speech laying out this proposal. how much leverage do you think the white house has over this process right now? i think, certainly, what was said during the announcement of this proposal, it's speaking to the us domestic audience, certainly, given, both inside the united states and more broadly, the leadership role that many constituencies in the us want to see the administration take in ending the humanitarian suffering and the really uncalled for civilian casualties in gaza, and i fully appreciate that, but i don't think we should be in the position of assessing the security environment for another country, in my view. so, i don't think that's really appropriate, given the nature of what happened on october 7th, and we're seeing, certainly, since the conflict started, the offensive by israel into gaza, they still have a significant capability to launch long—range munitions into israel and have the ability to fight the idf inside of gaza, so... it isn'tjust the united states pushing for this, is it? we just heard from the uk's foreign minister, david cameron, there. we saw a large group of arab nations as well pushing for this, qatarand nations as well pushing for this, qatar and egypt. there seems to be a lot of international pressure now, maybe the highest we have seen, to try to end this war with this deal. agree. i think it's important... again, the amount of suffering we have seen of the palestinian population inside of gaza is extremely concerning, the humanitarian crisis that, frankly, israel is responsible for addressing primarily, as the force that conducted the subsequent invasion. so i understand the international call for a cease—fire, and certainly the release of the hostages, absolutely, the innocents on both sides that are being caught up in this conflict, but it does not comport with the strategic end state, which is to eliminate hamas as a military capability and the governing body inside of gaza. very, very briefly, about 20 seconds left, but i do want to ask you — the details of the deal and the response of either side, how optimistic are you this actually gets done? not very optimistic. i think that there is potential for a temporary cease—fire, for an initial exchange — 700 palestinian prisoners for some of the hostages to be released — which would be superb. but i think the long—term, phase two and three, i think, have a very unlikely chance of materialising. a lawyer for donald trump has told the bbc nothing will change in the former us president's run for the white house, despite his criminal conviction. trump was found guilty on thursday of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments made to the former adult film star stormy daniels in 2016. mr trump has denounced the verdict and says the trial was "rigged". his defence team has vowed to appeal. according to a new yougov poll, trump still has a firm base of supporters who are now more likely to vote for him come november because of his conviction. in the 24 hours after his conviction on 34 felony counts, his campaign said it's raised $53 million. trump attorney alina habba claims the influx of donations is proof that "trump is the victim of selective political prosecution." here's what she said when speaking to the bbc. we have seen some corruption that this country has strength he never seen before in our judicial system. he never seen before in our judicialsystem. it he never seen before in our judicial system. it is very real. it is not posturing by any means. it is 100% a problem. our people are speaking loudly. they are donating, they are small donors, and there standing up because they are afraid, because they are afraid, because we cannot have this happen to us. for more on what happens next, i'm joined by the former us attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general at the department ofjustice, harry litman. it is great to have you here on the bbc. i want to ask you first of all. we know donald trump is that he will appeal this verdict as soon he can, he has listed this long list of grievances, really, from the location to the unique way that misdemeanor was turned into a felony in these charges. do you think he has a case there? what are the changes and appeal might actually succeed? i think that exist talking _ might actually succeed? i think that exist talking about - might actually succeed? i think that exist talking about are - that exist talking about are fairly remote. there is this issue of how things were elevated, but it would be customary and no surprise that he would appeal. the important thing to note is, an appeal will go to the intermediate court in new york, where it was convicted, and it would take 18 months, two years, which is sort of a millennium in political time in this country now, because of the pivot point coming up of the election. so of course he will appeal, no surprise there, and, but there's no particular reason to think that it's auspicious for him. �* ,., think that it's auspicious for him. �* ., him. and some of trump's suworters _ him. and some of trump's supporters have _ him. and some of trump's supporters have been - him. and some of trump's l supporters have been calling him. and some of trump's - supporters have been calling on the us supreme court to intervene here. is that the likely scenario?— likely scenario? no, that's fanciful- — likely scenario? no, that's fanciful. there _ likely scenario? no, that's fanciful. there is - likely scenario? no, that's fanciful. there is no - likely scenario? no, that's fanciful. there is no basis| likely scenario? no, that's i fanciful. there is no basis for them to do it, and know even possible basis for several years, untilthings possible basis for several years, until things have run the state courts. it's really sort of bravado and a funny kind of posturing now of, this is just where we want things to be, because it brings so much support. i was in the courtroom, it was really a very sort of workday, very in some ways inspiring, because all around, there were these hailstorms of abuse raining down from trump and his supporters, but inside the courtroom, it was very much a sort of business as usualjury trial. i've spent my life doing them, and it's got no at all sort of connection with reality, the kinds of broadsides you're hearing from people outside the court. harry, the next big date is going to be likelyjuly the 11th, the sentencing date here for donald trump. i know you've been looking at some of the options on the table, and there are many number ranging from prison time to finds. what do you think might happen on that date, onjuly 11? you think might happen on that date, onjuly11? what will we see here? date, on july 11? what will we see here?— see here? it's somewhat complicated, _ see here? it's somewhat complicated, carl, - see here? it's somewhat i complicated, carl, because see here? it's somewhat - complicated, carl, because a normal nonviolent offender first time, first time, like donald trump, would not normally get a sentence of prison time, but there's so much swirling around him that i think will be right to bear, especially because i think we can expect him to continue to be unrepentant. most people who are convicted when it comes time to try to minimise their sentence, become contrite. i can't see that with him. the important point, though, again, evenif important point, though, again, even ifjudge merchan sentences him to a few months, it would be more than that, it would not actually play out, he would not be in jail for play out, he would not be in jailfor a play out, he would not be in jail for a few play out, he would not be in jailfor a few months, play out, he would not be in jail for a few months, until the appeal has run its course. so in that sense, itjust more of the kind of scarlet letter of the kind of scarlet letter of the kind of scarlet letter of the conviction and sentence, no actual prospect of trump behind bars. we no actual prospect of trump behind bars.— behind bars. we have been seeing--- — behind bars. we have been seeing... for— behind bars. we have been seeing... for a _ behind bars. we have been seeing... for a couple - behind bars. we have been i seeing... for a couple years, i mean to _ seeing... for a couple years, i mean to say- _ seeing... for a couple years, i mean to say. right. _ seeing... for a couple years, i mean to say. right. we - seeing... for a couple years, i mean to say. right. we have l mean to say. right. we have been seeing _ mean to say. right. we have been seeing reports - mean to say. right. we have been seeing reports in - mean to say. right. we have been seeing reports in us. mean to say. right. we have - been seeing reports in us media there are some from support is out there trying to docs or publicly reveal the identities of the jurors —— from from supporters. what do you think comes next for some of these jurors in terms of going back to their normal lives and potentially facing the threat of their name being out there publicly? of their name being out there ublicl ? ., ~ ., �*, publicly? you know, it's despicable. _ publicly? you know, it's despicable. by - publicly? you know, it's despicable. by all- publicly? you know, it's- despicable. by all accounts, i despicable. by allaccounts, i don't see how even the despicable. by all accounts, i don't see how even the alina habba of the road could take the jury to task for clearly doing itsjob and, i think, there are ways to minimise risk, but i think they will probably be looking over their shoulders, maybe indefinitely, and as the cost ofjust doing theirjob, it is sort of in miniature what happened to law enforcement officers, say, on january 6. it's really pernicious and indefensible, but that's a feature of the kind of autocratic impulses that trump brings to the table, to the political landscape in the us. there's no way to fully eliminate it, and it's really a shame. ., , ., ., ,, shame. harry litman, former us attorney. — shame. harry litman, former us attorney. always _ shame. harry litman, former us attorney, always great _ shame. harry litman, former us attorney, always great to - shame. harry litman, former us attorney, always great to get - attorney, always great to get your thoughts here on the bbc. thank you very much.— thank you very much. thanks, carl. an attempt to get flight crews into space on the boeing starliner spacecraft had to be postponed moments before take—off because of a computer system error. it's the latest setback for the boeing space programme which has already faced years of delays, as our science correspondent pallab ghosh reports. sta rliner. . . boeing's long delayed starliner. with four minutes to go, the spacecraft�*s flight control said it was ready for launch. propulsion. go. hydraulics. go. pneumatics. go. but then the computer said no. hold, hold, hold. hold it. the flight was scrubbed and out came the astronauts. what happens next is the crew has been disembarked from the spacecraft for the second time now. so last time, they were within two hours of launch. this time, within minutes, four minutes. they are taken back to their quarters and then the investigation begins. initial findings suggest the system failed to allow a computer—controlled launch. those in charge need to find out why. this is the business we are in. everything has got to work perfectly, like we talked before. today, we got really close. it didn't work for us. the team is very professional, they're in their 24—hour turnaround right now, and when we're ready to go, they'll be ready to go. when this spacecraft is ready for launch, its role is to take crew and cargo to the international space station. starliner is a brand—new spacecraft that looks like the apollo module used in the moon landings more than 50 years ago. it carried three astronauts, whereas starliner has a maximum capacity of seven. the spacecraft will take a day to reach the space station, when it will test out its docking and transportation systems. the mission will last around a week, and on returning to earth, the crew will experience starliner�*s landing system, which will touch down in the deserts in the south—western united states. the boeing spacecraft can only take off at fixed times to rendezvous with the space station. the next launch opportunities are sunday, wednesday and thursday. if the problem hasn't been sorted by then, the test flight will face yet another long delay. pallab ghosh, bbc news. meanwhile, chinese state media is reporting china's chang'e—6 space probe successfully landed on the far side of the moon sunday morning to collect lunar samples. you can see the probe before it took off in early may from the wenchang space launch center in southern china's hainan province. it comes as beijing pushes ahead with an ambitious programme that aims to send a crewed lunar mission by 2030. let's ta ke let's take a look at some other stories making headlines. a top official in bavaria in southern germany says flooding in the region has caused enormous damage. some rivers are at their highest levels in a century after heavy downpours. some dams have even burst. 1,500 people have had to leave their homes and officials have had to rescue several people. police in paris arrested a climate protester after an adhesive poster was stuck on a painting by monet at the musee d'orsay. in a video on social media, the protester is seen placing a blood red poster over the work. the painting was not protected by glass, but the museum says it was not damaged. this is the latest in a series of climate protests targeting works of art. last story now. people in the quiet texan town of lufkin certainly got a shock after spotting an unusual visitor. take a look at this police dashcam footage. that's red, an escaped kangaroo, taking to the streets for a hop around the neighbourhood. in fact, it was more than just a hop. red travelled for 16 kilometres, bumping into local residents, before law enforcement eventually caught up with him. he was one of two pet kangaroos to escape, after their owner forgot to latch their pen's door. more news coming up at the top of the hour right here on bbc news. hello there. it was a pretty decent saturday for much of the north of the uk. we saw highs of 22 degrees, the warmest spots of scotland and northern ireland. but it was cool, cloudy and breezy for eastern england. for sunday, it's a reverse of fortunes. it's the south and east of the country which will see the best of the warmth and the sunshine. further north and west, it will turn cloudier. that's because around this area of high pressure, we'll see this cloud and a weather front starting to work into the north—west of the uk. so it's a chilly but a bright start for many areas, early cloud clearing away from the south—east. the winds turn lighter here, too. lots of sunshine into the afternoon, a bit hazy in places. but the cloud continues to build across scotland and northern ireland through the day, with even a bit of rain arriving across western scotland as well and the breeze picking up here too. so feeling cooler — 14 degrees for the western isles. a bit warmer for eastern scotland, which holds on to the sunshine for longest, but up to 22 or 23 degrees across the east and south—east of england. now, as we head through sunday nights, that weather front with the clouds spills its way southward. so it'll turn cloudy for many areas, with some spits and spots of rain, mainly across northern and western hills. because there's more cloud around, more cloud cover means it won't be quite as cool. so i think a milder night to come for most. then into next week, we see some changes. monday starts off on a fine note with plenty of sunshine, but it will turn cooler from tuesday onwards, with sunshine and showers. most of the showers will be across the north of the uk. so we've got this weather front straddling the country through monday, slowly sinking southwards. it will introduce quite a lot of cloud initially to scotland and then into england and wales. skies will brighten up for northern ireland too. there may be the odd spits and spots of light rain. but it brightens up for scotland. maybe a few showers in the far north later on, where it'll turn breezier. lighter winds further south. so quite a mixed picture, i think. generally, though, given some sunny spells, temperatures will reach highs of 20, maybe 21 degrees. still cooler in the north—west of scotland. and that's the sign of things to come. much cooler air spills southwards across the whole country as we move through tuesday and wednesday and we'll see showers being pushed into northern areas. some of these showers may have a wintry element to them over the tops of the scottish mountains. most of the showers across the north of the uk. further south, in that strong earlyjune sunshine, temperatures will rise up to 20 or 21 degrees, but nights will be chilly. this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines for you at the top of the hour, which is straight after this programme. hello, everybody. a very warm welcome to talking business weekly with me, aaron heslehurst. let's go and take a look at what's on the show. it is a threat, i would say, in particular to the fast—fashion industry, because we are talking about cheap clothing sold in bulk and we are now seeing an absolute rise, which would have been almost unimaginable even 5—6 years ago. yep — repair, re—wear. it's a new era of shopping for our wardrobe, with the second—hand clothing market taking a chunk of fashion sales. so, is it chic to be sustainable? the market is booming, with pre—owned clothing set to be worth some $350 billion within the next four years. but just what's driving this surge in sales? is it simply watching the pennies in our purse, or is it our concern for climate change and the planet? i'm going to be discussing all of that, firstly, with these two, there they are — orsola de castro, the co—founder of fashion revolution

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