jury come the jury is different than them whether it's political - them whether it's political conviction— them whether it's political conviction or— them whether it's political conviction or racial- them whether it's political - conviction or racial composition, whatever— conviction or racial composition, whatever it _ conviction or racial composition, whatever it is _ conviction or racial composition, whatever it is. very _ conviction or racial composition, whatever it is. very very- conviction or racial composition, whatever it is. very very rarely. conviction or racial composition, | whatever it is. very very rarely is there _ whatever it is. very very rarely is there grounds— whatever it is. very very rarely is there grounds for— whatever it is. very very rarely is there grounds for overturning - whatever it is. very very rarely is there grounds for overturning a i there grounds for overturning a verdict — there grounds for overturning a verdict because _ there grounds for overturning a verdict because of— there grounds for overturning a verdict because of the - there grounds for overturning a . verdict because of the composition of the _ verdict because of the composition of the jury. — verdict because of the composition of the jury, unless _ verdict because of the composition of the jury, unless there _ verdict because of the composition of the jury, unless there was - verdict because of the composition of the jury, unless there was an i of the jury, unless there was an intentional— of the jury, unless there was an intentional weeding _ of the jury, unless there was an intentional weeding out - of the jury, unless there was an intentional weeding out of - of the jury, unless there was ani intentional weeding out ofjurors of the jury, unless there was an - intentional weeding out ofjurors on the part— intentional weeding out ofjurors on the part of— intentional weeding out ofjurors on the part of the _ intentional weeding out ofjurors on the part of the prosecution - intentional weeding out ofjurors on the part of the prosecution that - the part of the prosecution that violated — the part of the prosecution that violated new— the part of the prosecution that violated new york— the part of the prosecution that violated new york law - the part of the prosecution that violated new york law or- violated new york law or constitutional _ violated new york law or constitutional law. - violated new york law or constitutional law. i- violated new york law or| constitutional law. i have violated new york law or- constitutional law. i have not violated new york law or— constitutional law. i have not heard any credible — constitutional law. i have not heard any credible arguments, _ constitutional law. i have not heard any credible arguments, once - constitutional law. i have not heard. any credible arguments, once again, that's— any credible arguments, once again, that's a _ any credible arguments, once again, that's a fox — any credible arguments, once again, that's a fox news _ any credible arguments, once again, that's a fox news argument - any credible arguments, once again, that's a fox news argument but - that's a fox news argument but that's— that's a fox news argument but that's not— that's a fox news argument but that's not going _ that's a fox news argument but that's not going to _ that's a fox news argument but that's not going to apply - that's a fox news argument but. that's not going to apply anywhere in the _ that's not going to apply anywhere in the new— that's not going to apply anywhere in the new york _ that's not going to apply anywhere in the new york appellate - that's not going to apply anywhere in the new york appellate courts. i in the new york appellate courts. we're _ in the new york appellate courts. we're still— in the new york appellate courts. we're still looking _ in the new york appellate courts. we're still looking at _ in the new york appellate courts. we're still looking at the imagesl we're still looking at the images outside the courthouse, where expecting to see donald trump's convoy taking off at some moment, we saw him speaking in front of the courthouse a while ago, we are seeing images in front of the courthouse, we know a lot of people were gathered there today. if you're justjoining us, this historic moment, donald trump found guilty on all 3a counts of falsifying business records. we also have a us federal prosecutor as we're getting some analysis on the analysis, faith, if you can hear me, i would love to get your reaction to this verdict. i can your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you. — your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank— your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. _ your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. it's - your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. it's a - your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. it's a sweeping verdict, of course, thejurors hear you, thank you. it's a sweeping verdict, of course, the jurors took enough time, a couple of days, and their decision doesn't reveal any inconsistencies whatsoever. i agree that there will be an appeal, this is a fairly novel set of charges. i don't see any particular grounds right now for the appeal of the jury, instructions were sweeping, they were thorough, they were fair, corroboration of michael cohen was required, but we know that you new york courts will be fair. harvey weinstein's conviction was just overturned in a situation where there was equally if not more public approbation of the defendant. so again, i expect there will be an appeal, i think it will be if it's a smart appeal, it will be on technical grounds challenging certain instructions that were given, certain evidence that was let in that didn't go directly to the charges but was so cold "other acts evidence". i don't see any other particular attack that the jury pool itself was unfair, given the time and attention and involvement of the lawyers on both sides injury selection. i should also say the trial teams on both sides were very competent, is not a situation where there would be ineffective assistance that could be raised by trump's team. assistance that could be raised by trump's team-— assistance that could be raised by trump's team. faith richards, keep it there, i want _ trump's team. faith richards, keep it there, i want to _ trump's team. faith richards, keep it there, i want to remind _ trump's team. faith richards, keep it there, i want to remind our- it there, i want to remind our viewers what's happening at the moment. donald trump guilty on all 34 moment. donald trump guilty on all 3a counts in on the criminal hush money chart while in new york. these are images outside the courthouse and we are getting reactions pouring in from republicans who are condemning this verdict and saying that it condemning this verdict and saying thatitis condemning this verdict and saying that it is a shameful day in america, and we do now have a statement from the biden harris campaign thati statement from the biden harris campaign that i want to read out, this is from the communications director michael tyler. " in new york today we saw no—one is above the law. donald trump has always mistakenly believed he would not face consequences for breaking the law for his own personal gain. but today's verdict does not change the fact that the american people face a simple reality — there is still only one way to keep donald trump out of the oval office at the about box, convicted felon or not trump will be the republican nominee for president. it goes on to say the threat to democracy has never been greater and he's running on an unhinged campaign on retribution. i'll start with you, rainer, if you would give us your statement on the biden harris campaign. i would give us your statement on the biden harris campaign.— biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate _ biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. _ biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. -- _ biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. -- to _ biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. -- to tie - biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. -- to tie in - biden harris campaign. i think it's unfortunate two. -- to tie in the l unfortunate two. —— to tie in the personal— unfortunate two. —— to tie in the personal election on the campaign. it's expected, or the system did what _ it's expected, or the system did what it— it's expected, or the system did what it did, and just leave it at that— what it did, and just leave it at that and — what it did, and just leave it at that and talk about the campaign at another— that and talk about the campaign at another time. that and talk about the campaign at anothertime. i that and talk about the campaign at another time. i think that unfortunately lends itself to the view that this was potentially political— view that this was potentially political in nature. it was certainly _ political in nature. it was certainly novel charges, there are questions — certainly novel charges, there are questions whether the law as it was interpreted to apply in this trial can even— interpreted to apply in this trial can even be used in the way that it was, _ can even be used in the way that it was, and _ can even be used in the way that it was, and thatjust, i think, can even be used in the way that it was, and thatjust, ithink, adds can even be used in the way that it was, and thatjust, i think, adds to that potential view. so hopefully, we can _ that potential view. so hopefully, we can somehow parse out the politics — we can somehow parse out the politics from the decision here and that statement, unfortunately, brings — that statement, unfortunately, brings both right back together. and can i 'ust brings both right back together. fific can ijust follow up on that, that's precisely what donald trump had not been doing the past six weeks, separating politics from the legal process. separating politics from the legal rocess. ~ �* , ., separating politics from the legal rocess. ~ �*, ., , , process. well, he's not president riaht now process. well, he's not president right now and _ process. well, he's not president right now and he _ process. well, he's not president right now and he is _ process. well, he's not president right now and he is the _ process. well, he's not president right now and he is the one - process. well, he's not president right now and he is the one who l process. well, he's not president. right now and he is the one who was the defendant so he's in a different position _ the defendant so he's in a different position. he literally fighting for his life — position. he literally fighting for his life during this trial because he could — his life during this trial because he could be put away for over 130 years _ he could be put away for over 130 years potentially in jail, he could be put away for over 130 years potentially injail, which would — years potentially injail, which would be _ years potentially injail, which would be obviously the rest of his life. would be obviously the rest of his life so _ would be obviously the rest of his life so he — would be obviously the rest of his life. so he could potentially be sentenced to die injail over this case _ sentenced to die injail over this case. unlikely to happen, but, you know, _ case. unlikely to happen, but, you know. it's — case. unlikely to happen, but, you know. it's up — case. unlikely to happen, but, you know, it's up to the judge what he's going _ know, it's up to the judge what he's going to _ know, it's up to the judge what he's going to do — know, it's up to the judge what he's going to do and what he's going to sentence _ going to do and what he's going to sentence him to. and at his age, sentencing — sentence him to. and at his age, sentencing him even to four years would _ sentencing him even to four years would potentially be, you know, problematic, for all kinds of reasons _ problematic, for all kinds of reasons. but as the president of the united _ reasons. but as the president of the united states who tried to separate himself— united states who tried to separate himself from the politics of this issue. — himself from the politics of this issue. to — himself from the politics of this issue, to then put out a statement directly— issue, to then put out a statement directly after the verdict has come out and _ directly after the verdict has come out and tie — directly after the verdict has come out and tie both together with, you have to _ out and tie both together with, you have to vote in november, it's very blatant _ have to vote in november, it's very blatant and — have to vote in november, it's very blatant and it... i think it would have _ blatant and it... i think it would have been— blatant and it... i think it would have been certainly much better overall— have been certainly much better overall for— have been certainly much better overall for the american people if it had _ overall for the american people if it had just — overall for the american people if it had just talked about, well, the system _ it had just talked about, well, the system has done what the system is meant _ system has done what the system is meant to— system has done what the system is meant to do and the jurors reached their verdict— meant to do and the jurors reached their verdict after how many weeks, and that's— their verdict after how many weeks, and that's it. — their verdict after how many weeks, and that's it, as opposed to tying it within — and that's it, as opposed to tying it within go — and that's it, as opposed to tying it within go vote in november. and, face, i it within go vote in november. and, face. i want — it within go vote in november. and, face. i want to _ it within go vote in november. and, face, i want to get _ it within go vote in november. and, face, i want to get your _ it within go vote in november. fific face, i want to get your opinion on it. , .. face, i want to get your opinion on it. he 'ust face the possibility of 'ail it. he just face the possibility of 'ail time. it. he just face the possibility of jailtime. absolutely. _ it. he just face the possibility of jailtime. absolutely. will- it. he just face the possibility of jail time. absolutely. will he . jail time. absolutely. will he actually serve a sentence? i think it's not clear at all what will happen. it is a sweeping verdict on thejudge will have happen. it is a sweeping verdict on the judge will have to take that into account. there are certain exacerbating factors that are not present here, he doesn't have a prior criminal conviction. he did not take the sand and you know, live. —— take the stand. there are extenuating circumstances, not known to be, some people would debate this but known to be a danger to the public. but yes, he will face the potential of an incarcerated tory sentence and i think the judge will give it serious consideration. it's also possible he could serve a split sentence, may be home confinement, other restrictions on his freedom. with regard to the president's statement today, this is a tragic day for the american people. to have the candidate of a major party be found guilty of incredibly unseemly acts is not a joyous moment for anyone. i would suggest, however, that the president would be remiss not to have commented and not to have commented on the meaning of this verdict. it have commented on the meaning of this verdict-— this verdict. it was indeed the campaign _ this verdict. it was indeed the campaign there _ this verdict. it was indeed the campaign there that - this verdict. it was indeed the campaign there that we - this verdict. it was indeed the campaign there that we heard commenting. i mention some of the republican reaction, i want to bring that in because we have heard from house speaker mikejohnson reacting house speaker mike johnson reacting to house speaker mikejohnson reacting to the verdict, saying,", today is a shameful day in american history. democrats cheered... richard, first, i want to get your reaction from what we heard from speakerjohnson there. reaction from what we heard from speakerjohnson there.— speakerjohnson there. well, this has all been _ speakerjohnson there. well, this has all been politcised _ speakerjohnson there. well, this has all been politcised by - speakerjohnson there. well, this i has all been politcised by everyone, i has all been politcised by everyone, i wish _ has all been politcised by everyone, i wish president _ has all been politcised by everyone, iwish president biden— has all been politcised by everyone, i wish president biden had - has all been politcised by everyone, iwish president biden had kept- has all been politcised by everyone, i wish president biden had kept a i i wish president biden had kept a lid on _ iwish president biden had kept a lid on it— i wish president biden had kept a lid on it and — i wish president biden had kept a lid on it and just _ i wish president biden had kept a lid on it and just not _ i wish president biden had kept a| lid on it and just not commented. i wish president biden had kept a i lid on it and just not commented. at the bush _ lid on it and just not commented. at the bush white _ lid on it and just not commented. at the bush white house _ lid on it and just not commented. at the bush white house we _ lid on it and just not commented. at the bush white house we didn't- the bush white house we didn't comment— the bush white house we didn't comment on— the bush white house we didn't comment on pending _ the bush white house we didn't comment on pending criminal. the bush white house we didn't- comment on pending criminal cases. and this _ comment on pending criminal cases. and this is _ comment on pending criminal cases. and this is snu— comment on pending criminal cases. and this is still a _ comment on pending criminal cases. and this is still a pending _ comment on pending criminal cases. and this is still a pending case, - and this is still a pending case, there's— and this is still a pending case, there's going _ and this is still a pending case, there's going to _ and this is still a pending case, there's going to be _ and this is still a pending case, there's going to be an - and this is still a pending case, there's going to be an appeal, i and this is still a pending case, j there's going to be an appeal, i don't _ there's going to be an appeal, i don't think the _ there's going to be an appeal, i don't think the appeal - there's going to be an appeal, i don't think the appeal will be . don't think the appeal will be successful— don't think the appeal will be successful but— don't think the appeal will be successful but i— don't think the appeal will be successful but i wish - don't think the appeal will be successful but i wish the - don't think the appeal will be - successful but i wish the president had not _ successful but i wish the president had not commented. _ successful but i wish the president had not commented. and - successful but i wish the president had not commented. and of- successful but i wish the president i had not commented. and of course, successful but i wish the president - had not commented. and of course, on the republican — had not commented. and of course, on the republican side, _ had not commented. and of course, on the republican side, particularly- had not commented. and of course, on the republican side, particularly if- the republican side, particularly if he's going — the republican side, particularly if he's going to _ the republican side, particularly if he's going to be _ the republican side, particularly if he's going to be their