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BBCNEWS The July 2, 2024

The uns Special Adviser on the prevention of genocide told the bbc that the Rapid Support forces were targeting communities based on their ethnicity. Tens of thousands of people have protested outside taiwans parliament over plans to give the assembly new powers. Opposition legislators want greater oversight of the government but the demonstrators believe the changes have not been properly debated. The American Film Maker Morgan Spurlock has died of complications from cancer, at the age of 53. He was best known for his documentary super size me where he lived on a diet of mcdonalds food for an entire month to test the Health Impact on his body. We start with the latest on the israel gaza war the Uns Highest Court has ruled that israel Must Immediately halt its Military Offensive in rafah. South africa had asked the International Court ofjustice to issue the order as an emergency measure. It argued israels actions in rafah amount to a genocidal operation and threatened the survival of the palestinian people. The icj made several rulings today. In addition to calls for israel to halt the Military Operation in rafah, the Court Ordered it open the rafah crossing with egypt, for the entry of humanitarian aid at scale. It also wants israel to ensure access to gaza for investigators and fact finding missions. Thejudges called on hamas to immediately and unconditionally release hostages taken in its october 7th attack on israel. The icj can make legally binding rulings in disputes between countries, but has little way of enforcing its orders. However, its given israel a month to update on progress. Lets hear from judge nawaf salam. The Court Considers that in conformity with obligations under the genocide convention, israel Must Immediately halt its Military Offensive and any other action in rafah which may inflict on the Palestinian Group in gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. The Court Records that in its order of january 26, 2024, it ordered israel into the area to, i quote, take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of article two and article three of the genocide convention. Our Diplomatic Correspondent paul adams is injersualem. He told me how people there have been reacting. This was not a welcome move, it was one that the Israeli Government had feared, and perhaps hoped that it might be able to avert. Now the Israeli Government has argued all along that it is conducting this campaign in accordance with international law, that it has given civilians ample opportunity to get out of harms way, that in excess of 800,000 people have obeyed those instructions, and, according to israel, it has gone to some lengths to try and make sure that aid and other supplies can get into the gaza strip something that the un absolutely disputes, saying that the Aid Situation particularly in the south is extremely critical. Paul adams with the latest reaction from israel. Lets talk to the panel with jane and kurt. Jane, starting with jane and kurt. Jane, starting with you, what do you read into this . It isnt legally binding but its a stern warning to israel, isnt it . It its a stern warning to israel, isnt it . ,. , ~ its a stern warning to israel, isnt it . ,. ~. , isnt it . It is and i think it marks another move isnt it . It is and i think it marks another move from isnt it . It is and i think it marks another move from the isnt it . It is and i think it marks another move from the International Community towards israels isolation. I think whats interesting is the response from the americans, the biden administration, because so far they havent said anything. It is provisional but what will be interesting to see next is how the us responds. Clearly israel doesnt feel like its going to act on it. The Rafah Offensive is probably still going ahead but it is probably still going ahead but it is probably a key moment in this conflict. ,. , probably a key moment in this conflict. G. ,. , ~ conflict. Kurt, jane was talking about the conflict. Kurt, jane was talking about the potential conflict. Kurt, jane was talking about the potential reaction i conflict. Kurt, jane was talking i about the potential reaction from the us. We havent heard anything definitive yet but what do you think is being discussed in the white house today given the ruling . Weill. House today given the ruling . Well, civen that house today given the ruling . Well, given that this house today given the ruling . Well, given that this has house today given the ruling . Well, given that this has been house today given the ruling . Well, given that this has been a house today given the ruling . Well, given that this has been a political headache given that this has been a political headache for President Biden, especially with the base of his own party, especially with the base of his own party, the especially with the base of his own party, the Democratic Party is sympathetic with the palestinians and this sympathetic with the palestinians and this is such a remarkable generational shift weve seen. For most generational shift weve seen. For most of generational shift weve seen. For most of the time in washington, for most most of the time in washington, for most of most of the time in washington, for most of the most of the time in washington, for most of the biden pot Public Service career most of the biden pot Public Service career there has been a very pro israel career there has been a very pro Israel Establishment position but this new Israel Establishment position but this new generation of democrats have come along and they are much more have come along and they are much more on have come along and they are much more on the have come along and they are much more on the side of palestinians and much more on the side of palestinians and much more more on the side of palestinians and much more sympathetic to them. So the president is caught between the old guard the president is caught between the old guard way of how it has always been old guard way of how it has always been done, old guard way of how it has always been done, standing by israel, our ally, been done, standing by israel, our ally. But been done, standing by israel, our ally. But his been done, standing by israel, our ally, but his own party is pressuring him to move more towards the palestinians. One of those situations where whichever side you take you situations where whichever side you take you are going to have someone angry take you are going to have someone angry at take you are going to have someone angry at you. They are the political calculations the white house is trying calculations the white house is trying to calculations the white house is trying to navigate. Do calculations the white house is trying to navigate. Calculations the white house is trying to navigate. Do you think a lot of those trying to navigate. Do you think a lot of those calculations trying to navigate. Do you think a lot of those calculations are lot of those calculations are because we are in an Election Year in the us and those votes matter . Exactly, we are at a time when we are expecting to have one of the most are expecting to have one of the most contentious and close elections in american most contentious and close elections in american political history and so the Fact In American Political History and so the fact that that is unfolding before the fact that that is unfolding before our very eyes, there is the split screen before our very eyes, there is the split screen between President Biden and his split screen between President Biden and his likely republican challenger donald and his likely republican challenger donald trump, trump is going to be very pro donald trump, trump is going to be very pro israel, standard israel. Biden very pro israel, standard israel. Biden can very pro israel, standard israel. Biden can pay a political price if he goes biden can pay a political price if he goes too far from the political position he goes too far from the political position but he could alienate his base position but he could alienate his base. ,. ,. , � base. Jane, the other thing weve heard from base. Jane, the other thing weve heard from the base. Jane, the other thing weve heard from the court, base. Jane, the other thing weve heard from the court, it base. Jane, the other thing weve heard from the court, it wasnt i base. Jane, the other thing weve i heard from the court, it wasntjust about a call to halt the Offensive On Rafah but also to open up more avenues to get more humanitarian aid into gaza, which is something that people in gaza have been calling for, for many months. Absolutely, this offensive for, for many months. Absolutely, this offensive is for, for many months. Absolutely, this offensive is blocking for, for many months. Absolutely, this offensive is blocking an i for, for many months. Absolutely, this offensive is blocking an aid i this offensive is blocking an aid route that is very crucial. What weve heard especially from the us and the uk governments is pressure on israel to open up those aid routes and thats crucial now. What we are also going to cra think with european countries, starting to talk more about recognising palestine as a state. In the uk, if labour win the election they are talking about starting in earnest about Palestinian Statehood so this is inching towards a game changer on the middle east peace process. But as you say i think it is the aid roots that must be opened up so that aid can get in. The court is very critical of that. Aid can get in. The court is very critical of that. Well be back with ou in a critical of that. Well be back with you in a short critical of that. Well be back with you in a short moment. Today, the Uk Parliament shut up shop for the next few weeks, as campaigning for the upcoming General Election continues. Well have more in a moment on that but lets take a look at one of the laws that did make it through before parliament was suspended. Hundreds of subpostmasters who were wrongly accused of stealing, when a faulty Computer System was to blame, finally had their convictions forfraud quashed by parliament. Many spent time in jail. The entire scandal weighed heavily on them and their families. Today was a moment of relief after years. All of this as the former post office boss, Paula Vennells, appeared before the Public Inquiry into what went wrong. Lawyers of some of those wrongly accused said she lived in la la land and was in a cloud of denial. Ms vennells admitted to the Public Inquiry shed let them down but insisted she did not deal in deception. I made a mistake. I generally try to approach things by the values that i wanted the organisation to follow, and this is a terrible example of where i didnt do that. Friday was the third and final day that ms vennells gave evidence at the long running inquiry into the horizon scandal. The room was packed with people, including many former Sub Postmasters who were wronged. She gave a tearful reply to a question from sam stein kc. The risk was too great. Looking under that rock, youll find a problem, itll devastate the post office, ruin it. You couldnt let that happen, could you, ms vennells . I loved the post office. I gave it. I worked. As hard as i possibly could to deliver. The best post office for the uk. It wouldve been wonderful to have 30,000 post Office Branches that would have been the best outcome ever, to have more post offices in more communities. What i failed to do and ive made this clear previously is i did not recognise the and its been discussed across the inquiry the imbalance of power between the institution and the individual. And i let these people down. Joining us know is tom witherow, who has been closely following the inquiry for the times. It is never easy to see someone crying, no matter who they are, but there will be many people watching that clip of Paula Vennells who will say, what about all of the pain and torment that so many families went through four years because of what they say she did. Through four years because of what they say she did they say she did. Absolutely, it shows the they say she did. Absolutely, it shows the emotion they say she did. Absolutely, it shows the emotion that they say she did. Absolutely, it shows the emotion that comes | they say she did. Absolutely, it i shows the emotion that comes into this case. There are hundreds of people who were wrongly prosecuted, many of them jailed, and a number of people took their own lives. As you can see, Paula Vennells, she doesnt appear like a normal corporate baddie. She is a part time priest and was with the post office for 15 years. For many of the supposed masters, they have very little sympathy for her. For many of the Sub Postmasters. It sympathy for her. For many of the subpostmasters. Subpostmasters. It wasnt until that itv drama subpostmasters. It wasnt until that itv drama that subpostmasters. It wasnt until that itv drama that this subpostmasters. It wasnt until that itv drama that this really i subpostmasters. It wasnt until i that itv drama that this really came to prominence and today, another real kind of landmark moment where those convictions were quashed in parliament. Do you think we would have got to this stage if that drama had happened . I have got to this stage if that drama had happened . Had happened . I dont think we would. Had happened . I dont think we would the had happened . I dont think we would. The wheels had happened . I dont think we would. The wheels of had happened . I dont think we would. The Wheels Ofjustice i had happened . I dont think we i would. The Wheels Ofjustice were turning. This week we had six postmasters going through the normal route, going through the Court Of Appeal to get the convictions overturned, taking the number to 110. But nearly 1000 were prosecuted on the basis of data from the faulty computer software. So the legislation which is unprecedented in britain, to exonerate on a mass the remaining 850, is incredibly welcome and it is fantastic it has been pushed through before the election, which will open up £600,000 in compensation for each victim. ,. , £600,000 in compensation for each victim. ,. , £600,000 in compensation for each victim. , ~ £600,000 in compensation for each victim. ,. ,. , victim. Stay with us. We are going to brin victim. Stay with us. We are going to bring jane victim. Stay with us. We are going to bring jane and victim. Stay with us. We are going to bring jane and kurt victim. Stay with us. We are going to bring jane and kurt back victim. Stay with us. We are going to bring jane and kurt back into i victim. Stay with us. We are going l to bring jane and kurt back into the conversation. Jane, im sure you watch the post office drama, like so many of us did. How do you feel today when you hear that so many people now who have lived through hell, no other way to put it, really, have their convictions quashed . Really, have their convictions uuashed . ,. ,. ,. , quashed . Yeah it was a real moment, not onl in quashed . Yeah it was a real moment, not only in the quashed . Yeah it was a real moment, not only in the post quashed . Yeah it was a real moment, not only in the post office quashed . Yeah it was a real moment, not only in the post office inquiry, i not only in the post office inquiry, to see the silence in court as she composed herself, but also to see in parliament, actually, this legislation to get onto the statute book that postmasters have been asking for for years and there has been a rush to get the legislation through. Some of the bells have failed. This was important for the government to say it would live up to its promise to get the compensation through and thats a real moment i think. Theres a lot more of the inquiry to go through and Paula Vennells has finished her evidence today but finally this is what The Postmasters have been asking for for years and i think theres probably a lot of belief that the verdicts have been overturned. That the verdicts have been overturned. �. ,. , overturned. Kurt, im going to bring ou in. Overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in this overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in this is overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in. This is one overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in. This is one of overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in. This is one of the overturned. Kurt, im going to bring you in. This is one of the largest i you in. This is one of the largest if not the largest miscarriage of justice in the uk, which, in some ways, has one chapter closing today although there are many more that continue. How much has this travelled across the atlantic to the us . How much is this getting play where you are . Iiiii us . How much is this getting play wher

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