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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Sportsday 20240703

Just dealing with ill health, but fighting forjustice. I welcome the vast majority of what the minister has announced this morning, and im sure everyone across the house does, but the members of the infected Blood Community who are here since morning will be concerned to hear his comments to the ongoing support payments. Does he accept its not a matter of saying the infected Blood Community will be involved in a Compensation Scheme, but will their wishes be listened to . Wishes be listened to . Absolutely the well. Wishes be listened to . Absolutely they well. When wishes be listened to . Absolutely they well. When i wishes be listened to . Absolutely they well. When i was wishes be listened to . Absolutely they well. When i was in wishes be listened to . Absolutelyl they well. When i was in edinburgh wishes be listened to . Absolutely i they well. When i was in edinburgh i was keen to ensure and i had long conversations about the need to understand the integration of existing infected red Support Schemes, which present in a different way and offer a Psychological Support Service to those communities in different parts of the uk. The are two parts of the heads of loss, past and future care costs, and loss of income, past and future. We are consolidating those into a lump sum. Ive made the absolute commitment no one will be worse off. There are a couple of categories where there is potential risk of that, and we will make sure nobody is worse off. The sensitivity in the delivery of the delivery of this scheme in terms that the various communities across the uk will be accountable with is at the top of my mind and will be instrumental in determining the regulations formed that guides us into law in the next few months. I into law in the next few months. I commend my right honourable friend for his statement and indeed deterrent the government is taking with regard for this most grave scandal. It is striking sir Brian Langstaff has said his job isnt done yet and you will only regard his terms of references fulfilled when the government response within a period of one year. Importantly, he will only regard his job done if he will only regard his job done if he feels there is nothing more he can do in order to prevent delay. Bearing in mind the government has to respond to the Second Interim report and his final reports, can my right honourable friend assured me in the house and the wider public he and the government will do everything they can to ensure sir Brian Langstaff� s roll is fulfilled as swiftly as possible . Brian langstaffs roll is fulfilled as swiftly as possible . Absolutely i can reassure as swiftly as possible . Absolutely i can reassure him as swiftly as possible . Absolutely i can reassure him of as swiftly as possible . Absolutely i can reassure him of that. As swiftly as possible . Absolutely i can reassure him of that. Todays l can reassure him of that. Todays announcements on compensation and the documents will be a substantive response to Media Expectations of many in the communities and the formalisation of those responses something i will consider. Can formalisation of those responses something i will consider. Cami formalisation of those responses something i will consider. Can i put on record the something i will consider. Can i put on record the flanks something i will consider. Can i put on record the flanks to something i will consider. Can i put on record the flanks to the on record the flanks to the campaigners but also to my right honourable friend thanks. For someone who campaigned on postmasters, i know how lonely it is when youre taking on the estate, no one believes you. Can i welcome what the Paymaster General has announced in terms of the Compensation Scheme . Can i tell them from my experiences on the horizon advisory board, the big work starts now in terms of agreeing those tariffs. Can i ask whether the government will pay individual claimants legal bills because they will need legal advice. Can i echo what the house and early on. A lot of money will be paid out to people. You will get unscrupulous individuals trying to prion people. Can i suggest we are ensure they get Financial Advice when those supports are made . Hal Financial Advice when those supports are made . ,. , are made . Not for the first time he makes some are made . Not for the first time he makes some wise are made . Not for the first time he makes some wise points are made . Not for the first time he makes some wise points and are made . Not for the first time he makes some wise points and im i makes some wise points and im grateful to him for doing so. I accept a number of the point is made with respect to the concern around tariffs. These tariffs have not been set up with financial constraints. Theyd been set up with the input of a range of expert to make a judgment on what will be appropriate versus what is legally entitled to. What now needs to happen is the assumptions behind those bindings, though severity bindings need to be explained and scrutinised, that will happen. He makes a reasonable point about the concern around unscrupulous people claiming, and again, the issue there really is how do you put safeguards in place while expediting for all those quickly who qualified . He makes a good point about the professional support of lawyers and financial advisers, which is also something at the top of my mind, learning from some of the other scandals i was familiar with in my previous role as economic secretary and i will take them to heart in future. I secretary and i will take them to heart in future. Secretary and i will take them to heart in future. I want to begin by a in heart in future. I want to begin by paying tribute heart in future. I want to begin by paying tribute to heart in future. I want to begin by paying tribute to my heart in future. I want to begin by paying tribute to my constituent l heart in future. I want to begin by i paying tribute to my constituent for his campaigning. It started in 1974, he was infected by hepatitis c. I regret i personally havent grasped the full horrendous nurse what has gone on rithanks around langstaff that we do now. What work is being done to ensure we can now get accountability for those who deserve to have their conduct looked at . I to have their conduct looked at . I can understand why he wants that point reyes. These matters go beyond my brief. This is an urgent matter, other ministers will need to address properly and in full. I hope the debate will give us an opportunity to really open up into all those matters, as a house. And therefore the government to respond as quickly as possible. Some of the things that happened were completely against the values of the institutions that there individuals were part of. We need to really fully examine it and come to terms with it and make sure it never happens again. Can come to terms with it and make sure it never happens again. It never happens again. Can we acce t it never happens again. Can we accept that it never happens again. Can we accept that institutional accept that Institutional Defensiveness has not gone away . And it will only go away when we in this house act to make it go away. For the pasty years ive been working with constituents who were the victims of a scheme, losing millions of pounds. They were failed repeatedly by the fsa. They have been left out of partick to the tune of almost £2 million pocket. The fsa has no apparent interest. Would he meet with me to see what can be done to deliver for them some of the good intentions expressed today . Im good intentions expressed today . Im sor good intentions expressed today . I� m sorry to hear about his constituents, i did there is a matter for the fca, constituents, i did there is a matterfor the fca, the Memberfor Hitchen is best placed to address that. I do understand the problems with jurisdiction of the fca, pitifully with unregulated activities, but i dont think i would be able to help him. He should address it to my colleague in the treasury. Address it to my colleague in the treasu. �. , treasury. Im glad my right honourable treasury. Im glad my right honourable friend treasury. Im glad my right honourable friend has treasury. Im glad My Rightj Honourable Friend has done treasury. Im glad my right l honourable friend has done a diligentjob reflective of his attitude to the overall need and greatness of the situation. However, it all ought to have been doing earlier and i hold it all ought to have been doing earlierand i hold in mind my it all ought to have been doing earlier and i hold in mind my former constituent and you walk who died in 2016, and i wish she had been able to see this annie walker. She said she was tired of campaigning. I have in mind a current constituent who i will not name but i have worked with and he has asked me particularly to make the point today about the care schemes, the Support Schemes that are as per the Statement Due to change. He and i will be gratefulfor as Statement Due to change. He and i will be grateful for as much clarity as possible on that, that is needed by many. May i finally urge the minister and his colleagues in government to bring for those regulations as soon as possible . If i understand correctly, sir Robert Francis made be taking a number of weeks, the month ofjune, five weeks, the month ofjune, five weeks, so can i take it we may see the regulations injuly, which would allow all members of the house, not just a select committee, selected committee, to do itsjob and get the job done as fast as possible. I thanked her for her questions, and thanked herfor her questions, and for her engagement with me personally over the last few weeks and i recognise the fact she mentions an unnamed constituent provokes me to acknowledge that so many people are being traumatised by their experiences, and the stigma associated with it, that they havent been able to be open as possible. With respect to the timeframe, the government submitted to a three month obligation to bring those regulations forward from royal assent, which will happen injune or july. Of course, therefore, if you come back from that, there will be time where we had to lay them before the house. I want to make sure we do it in the most timely way possible. The purposeful intent with the engagement under sir Robert Franciss leadership is to make sure thatis franciss leadership is to make sure that is meaningful but addresses the imperative around time. The that is meaningful but addresses the imperative around time. Imperative around time. The very welcome appointment imperative around time. The very welcome appointment of imperative around time. The very welcome appointment of sir imperative around time. The very l welcome appointment of sir Robert Francis, who did an Excellentjob Chairing the inquiry into the scandal of mid staffordshire, is a reminder we are good at inquiries in this country but terrible at implementing their recommendations. I would like to make a recommendation to the minister, something that might reduce the chances of this thing happening again is to ask every Permanent Secretary in whitehall how many recommendations are still on the books from previous inquiries that have not been implemented. Lets have not been implemented. Lets have the list and have a good reason, a very good reason why they havent been implemented. I reason, a very good reason why they havent been implemented. Havent been implemented. I thank him for his question, havent been implemented. I thank him for his question, and havent been implemented. I thank him for his question, and i havent been implemented. I thank him for his question, and i would i him for his question, and i would echo his tribute to sir Robert Francis. 0ne echo his tribute to sir Robert Francis. One of the reasons i was keen to secure his work was the excellent work you did in compensation which has been important to move us forward. I think the challenge to secretaries about recommendations not dealt with is a very reasonable one. Im not sure how best i can take it forward but i will seek advice and at the next opportunity let him know how we are getting on with it. I next opportunity let him know how we are getting on with it. Are getting on with it. I spoke with my constituent are getting on with it. I spoke with my constituent yesterday are getting on with it. I spoke with my constituent yesterday he are getting on with it. I spoke with i my constituent yesterday he wanted to express his gratitude to sir Brian Langstaff but the truth had come on out. He contacted Hepatitis C Following a Blood Transfusion in 1983 and now trained therapy dogs to give hope and support to others. Can the minister give him hope that conversation will be rapid and simple to enable him and others impacted to finally reach closure . Yes, i certainly can. That has been driving the government over the recent months and i hope in the progress we will make, i am sure we will give more detail on exactly how and when the profile of the work of the body will play out in the coming months and the remainder of this year and beyond. The months and the remainder of this year and beyond. Months and the remainder of this year and beyond. The thing is, this will all happen year and beyond. The thing is, this will all happen again. Year and beyond. The thing is, this will all happen again. Unless year and beyond. The thing is, this will all happen again. Unless we i will all happen again. Unless we change the way we do our parliamentary politics, because parliamentary politics, because parliament failed as well as the whole of british politics. There are notable exceptions, my honourable friend who i think not only as a honourable friend but a companion of honourable friend but a companion of honour with a c and h. The truth is polmont was led repeatedly over decades, in all those decades there wasnt a single report from a select committee into infected blood. We didnt do ourjob properly. Isnt it time we do have change in the way we do our parliamentary and Government Politics in this country, perhaps a bit more power in Parliament Rather than always in government . Isnt is a good idea if it was the people first, not the department or institution, and not the party first . Doesnt that require a legally enforceable Duty Of Candour place notjust our ministers through the ministerial code, which i think should be in statute, but also on all our Civil Servants . Should be in statute, but also on all our civilservants . I should be in statute, but also on all our Civil Servants . Should be in statute, but also on all our Civil Servants . I thank the honourable all our Civil Servants . I thank the honourable gentleman all our Civil Servants . I thank the honourable gentleman for all our Civil Servants . I thank the honourable gentleman for his all our Civil Servants . I thank the i honourable gentleman for his fourth full assessment. It chimes with what i thought yesterday when i heard sir Brian Langstaff talk to the 1200 people in central hall. What was striking was the range of institutional failure. Striking was the range of institutionalfailure. Yes, government, yes, politicians, but Civil Servants, doctors and everyone, or many people in positions of authority. He makes a clear suggestion of a rebalancing across different institutions, and i recognise the spasticity of sir Brian Langstaffs challenge and recommendations specificity. We will do so in due course. Jahh recommendations specificity. We will do so in due course. Will do so in due course. John glenn settin will do so in due course. John glenn setting out will do so in due course. John glenn setting out the will do so in due course. John glenn setting out the details will do so in due course. John glenn setting out the details of will do so in due course. John glenn setting out the details of the setting out the details of the infected blood Compensation Scheme infected blood Compensation Scheme in the house of commons. A lengthy

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