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In my tennis career. The crowd have been amazing with me, supporting me since the beginning of my tennis career. The super excited to be able to play
One More Time
here. The defending champion
Daniil Medvedev
will get his italy open campaign under way on friday and will play jack draper. Medvedev was forced to pull out of the quarterfinal at the madrid open with a leg injury, but hes confident that he is ready for rome. Every match was an unbelievable feeling because of the end result. Honestly, i think it gave me a lot of confidence for this year. But where this is the first of second year, together with last year, where i am ok to play on clay. I dont really hate it. I know there are some parts of my game which are may be a not adopted 100 , but i know i can win the big players, i know i can win the big players, i know i can win the big players, i know i can win big tournaments on clay. I am feeling good about it and it helps a lot for the mental part. Naomi osaka put in one of her best performances of the season after beating
Marta Kostyuk
in straight sets in the second round in rome. The win against kostyuk is the first
Time Osaka Has
won two matches in a row on clay since rome since 2019, when she reached the quarterfinals. She won the rain interrupted match in 71 minutes. Pelayo sanchez beat
Julian Alaphilippe
and luke plapp to the line on stage six of the giro ditalia. As the race wound its way through the white roads of tuscany, after trying for many kilometres, the break finally went away and managed to get a lead over the chasing peloton. But it came down to three men for the sprint into rapolano terme. And the 24 year old sanchez had the legs to keep the others at bay and cross the line in the lead. Tadej pogacar finished safely in the peeton to retain the race leaders pinkjersey. And thats all the sport for now. You are watching the context. It is time for our regular weekly segment, ai decoded. Welcome to ai decoded. Every week in this programme, we take you deep into the world of artificial intellligence, and what we have tried to do is focus these programmes on one particular theme. Last week, we looked at the advance of al on the battlefield. Tonight, we are going to consider something a number of you have raised, and that is al and energy, or more specifically the energy that al consumes. There are
Climate Experts
who are warning that the advance of
Artificial Intelligence
could lead to an 80 increase in our
Global Carbon
emissions. Lets start with sustainability, because that cloud that al models live on is actually made out of metal, plastic and powered by vast amounts of energy. And each time you query an ai model, it comes with the cost to the planet. That is sasha luccioni, lead
Climate Researcher
at the ai company hugging face. Shes going to be with us from montreal injust a moment. How much energy are we using . According to this report from vox, ai is already consuming as much energy as a small country and we are only at the beginning. The next web says this is where our two existential crises collide with one another, the
Climate Crisis
and the exponential growth of ai. Can one help solve the other, or will it exacerbate the problem . Here in the studio, our regular ai contributor priya lakhani, ceo of the ai powered
Education Company
century tech. Welcome. Good to see you. When it comes to di. Ital good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there is good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there is a i digital everyone knows there is a cost, the wiring, chips, precious metals, the water that cools the
Data Processing
centres. What we dont often talk about is the energy going into ai and the training of large language marbles like chat gpt. � , large language marbles like chat gpt. , a,. , gpt. Because they are far more hunu gpt. Because they are far more hungry that gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have seen gpt. Because they are far more i hungry that we have seen before. Gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have seen before. We have talked about air models and played with them. They are trained and deployed india centres. The data centres consume vast amounts of electricity. So if you are powering the data centre with nonrenewable sources, then, essentially you have potentially huge
Carbon Emissions
and those particular models we are talking about the generative ai ai models, but also the models, images videos consume a large amount. So in 2019 we said stream in our video it was 36 grams of catjust to put that into context for everyone because thatis into context for everyone because that is why we are here, that is driving a car typical petrol car about 160 metres. Meta had just relieved the third model on one of my favourite platforms and they said that admitted about 2290
Metric Tonnes
of co2. So to put that into context, that is about 500 average cars and what they admit in an entire year. So you start to get what we had with digital which is what we had with digital which is what you asked all the way to these really huge ai models. I want to show you what i looked a little bit earlier before i came in. Ijust looked at half of an hour of the images produced on major knee. This is what youre seeing now. So you have about ten unique images produced by this particular platform about half an hour about 430 uk time today. Just as images. Just on one channel of where you can find it. There are hundreds and hundreds, but just those ten along with take about two and half times the
Battery Charge
of the phone. So this is a significant problem and if anyone is interested there are great interviews with
Mark Zuckerberg
and others who said there is going to be an energy bottleneck. Obviously for activists this is a significant problem. Some really looking forward to sasha. Lets bring in sasha luccioni. As the lead
Climate Researcher
at hugging face, shes spent nearly a decade looking at data storage and
Machine Learning
and how this all contributes to our
Energy Consumption
. Welcome to the programme. Thank you for having me. Before we get started, maybe i could frame our conversation with an image you sent us that visuallyjust underlines how expensive our digital usage has become. So here is googles annual energy use, 18. 3 trillion watts, 10 15 of that currently going towards ai. And here is what the
Republic Of Ireland
uses in any one year, 29. 3 trillion watts. So one company, sasha, is now consuming two thirds of what a
Small Company
uses each year. Yet, i dont hear governments talking about that problem. I think that is because talking about that problem. I think that is because ai talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is a talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is a horizontal i that is because ai is a horizontal it is not that is because ai is a horizontal it is not agricultural transportation and it affects all industries. Anything that uses ai from industries. Anything that uses ai from navigation to web search so i think from navigation to web search so i think governments dont know what bucket think governments dont know what bucket to think governments dont know what bucket to put it in and when you dont bucket to put it in and when you dont know. Bucket to put it in and when you dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. Can dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. ,. , dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. ,. ,. , dont know, you lent it slip through the cracke the cracks. Can you describe this in the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of large the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of large language the cracks. Can you describe this in i the terms of
Large Language Models
, what their usage is like and actually tell us what that means in terms of
Energy Consumption
and the impact on the environment. Language models have impact on the environment. Language models have become impact on the environment. Language models have become one impact on the environment. Language models have become one of impact on the environment. Language models have become one of the impact on the environment. Language models have become one of the mostj models have become one of the most popular models have become one of the most popular usages of ai and they are being popular usages of ai and they are being deployed in everything nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your fridge nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your fridge and in a recent study we found or your fridge and in a recent study we found that training a large language model is very energy intensive. That is the numbers you give intensive. That is the numbers you give. Actually each query uses energy give. Actually each query uses energy. Depending on the size of the model. Energy. Depending on the size of the model, zoo500,000,000 energy. Depending on the size of the model, zoo 500,000,000 queries will equal the model, zoo 500,000,000 queries will equal the amount of energy for training equal the amount of energy for training. So it may seem like a lot, but for training. So it may seem like a lot, but for chatgpt, it averages around 10 million but for chatgpt, it averages around 10 million users a day. So within a couple 10 million users a day. So within a couple of 10 million users a day. So within a couple of weeks you have this vast amount couple of weeks you have this vast amount of couple of weeks you have this vast amount of energy that is equivalent to all amount of energy that is equivalent to all of amount of energy that is equivalent to all of these cars over a year. Butiust to all of these cars over a year. Butjust with people using the to all of these cars over a year. But just with people using the tool. Did you but just with people using the tool. Did you see the story this week that microsoft are going to plough in about 100 billion into this supercomputer called stargate and it will be powered by not one, they say, but several
Nuclear Power
stations. That got me thinking because i have heard the head at the talk about this and he said, that is how we will have to work, we will have to create our own energy systems. Is that where new energy comes from, the
Biggest Companies
in the
World Driving
investment . It is a problem the
World Driving
investment . It is a problem. Because to what extent do you want a problem. Because to what extent do you want
Big Tech Companies
building their own you want
Big Tech Companies
building their own
Nuclear Reactors
. May be that energy their own
Nuclear Reactors
. May be that energy could be better used for other that energy could be better used for other things. That energy could be better used for otherthings. Because that energy could be better used for other things. Because we should be decarbonise in our energy globally. Currently. Decarbonise in our energy globally. Currently, if we are going to funnel all of currently, if we are going to funnel all of that currently, if we are going to funnel all of that investment into the energy all of that investment into the energy use for al may be other
Sectors Energy
use for al may be other sectors will get overlooked and mayhe sectors will get overlooked and maybe we should focus on those if you want maybe we should focus on those if you want to maybe we should focus on those if you want to decarbonise. What im excited about you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when we you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when we talk you want to decarbonise. What iml excited about is when we talk about al models and i was on hugging face ai models and i was on hugging face today, for those who do not know what it is it is a marker one model repository i like models have a description now on potentially how much energy they have used. You produce something novel at hugging face so when you are building these ai models we are focused on the latency and speed and
High Performance
the model is but you are potentially creating a little trip adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that. Adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that. ,. ,. , about that. Currently when people go on hu tlnt about that. Currently when people go on hugging face about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they shop about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they shop around i about that. Currently when people go | on hugging face they shop around for models on hugging face they shop around for models that work for the task they want to models that work for the task they want to do models that work for the task they want to do. It could be language, audio. Want to do. It could be language, audio. It want to do. It could be language, audio, it could be image generation or even audio, it could be image generation or even looking at video. Typically they look or even looking at video. Typically they look at things like performance or latency they look at things like performance or latency but im calculating the energy or latency but im calculating the energy usage across all different tasks energy usage across all different tasks in energy usage across all different tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and to tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and to provide that information to people face and to provide that information to people so they can factor it into maybe to people so they can factor it into maybe it to people so they can factor it into maybe it is to people so they can factor it into maybe it is not only faster but more efficient maybe it is not only faster but more efficient but must performative but vastly efficient but must performative but vastly more efficient. Signs developing
Energy Star Ratings
for al models. ,. ,. ,. , ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the problem. Ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the problem. Let l let me introduce you to chris starkey. He is the ceo of the london based start up nexgen cloud. They have been in business since 2020,
Sourcing Data Centres
that are entirely powered by
Renewable Energy
. Welcome to the programme. Tell us what you do and how your clients would typically work. We what you do and how your clients would typically work. What you do and how your clients would typically work. We are on the other side of would typically work. We are on the other side of the would typically work. We are on the other side of the fence. Would typically work. We are on the other side of the fence. Our other side of the fence. Our business other side of the fence. Our business is other side of the fence. Our business is all other side of the fence. Our business is all about other side of the fence. Ourl business is all about building other side of the fence. Our business is all about building large scale business is all about building large scale gpu business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Basically business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Basically we i scale gpu clusters. Basically we have scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core focus scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core focus on scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a
Core Focus On Building
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Core Focus On Building
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Core Focus On Building
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Core Focus On Building
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One More Time<\/a> here. The defending champion
Daniil Medvedev<\/a> will get his italy open campaign under way on friday and will play jack draper. Medvedev was forced to pull out of the quarterfinal at the madrid open with a leg injury, but hes confident that he is ready for rome. Every match was an unbelievable feeling because of the end result. Honestly, i think it gave me a lot of confidence for this year. But where this is the first of second year, together with last year, where i am ok to play on clay. I dont really hate it. I know there are some parts of my game which are may be a not adopted 100 , but i know i can win the big players, i know i can win the big players, i know i can win the big players, i know i can win big tournaments on clay. I am feeling good about it and it helps a lot for the mental part. Naomi osaka put in one of her best performances of the season after beating
Marta Kostyuk<\/a> in straight sets in the second round in rome. The win against kostyuk is the first
Time Osaka Has<\/a> won two matches in a row on clay since rome since 2019, when she reached the quarterfinals. She won the rain interrupted match in 71 minutes. Pelayo sanchez beat
Julian Alaphilippe<\/a> and luke plapp to the line on stage six of the giro ditalia. As the race wound its way through the white roads of tuscany, after trying for many kilometres, the break finally went away and managed to get a lead over the chasing peloton. But it came down to three men for the sprint into rapolano terme. And the 24 year old sanchez had the legs to keep the others at bay and cross the line in the lead. Tadej pogacar finished safely in the peeton to retain the race leaders pinkjersey. And thats all the sport for now. You are watching the context. It is time for our regular weekly segment, ai decoded. Welcome to ai decoded. Every week in this programme, we take you deep into the world of artificial intellligence, and what we have tried to do is focus these programmes on one particular theme. Last week, we looked at the advance of al on the battlefield. Tonight, we are going to consider something a number of you have raised, and that is al and energy, or more specifically the energy that al consumes. There are
Climate Experts<\/a> who are warning that the advance of
Artificial Intelligence<\/a> could lead to an 80 increase in our
Global Carbon<\/a> emissions. Lets start with sustainability, because that cloud that al models live on is actually made out of metal, plastic and powered by vast amounts of energy. And each time you query an ai model, it comes with the cost to the planet. That is sasha luccioni, lead
Climate Researcher<\/a> at the ai company hugging face. Shes going to be with us from montreal injust a moment. How much energy are we using . According to this report from vox, ai is already consuming as much energy as a small country and we are only at the beginning. The next web says this is where our two existential crises collide with one another, the
Climate Crisis<\/a> and the exponential growth of ai. Can one help solve the other, or will it exacerbate the problem . Here in the studio, our regular ai contributor priya lakhani, ceo of the ai powered
Education Company<\/a> century tech. Welcome. Good to see you. When it comes to di. Ital good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there is good to see you. When it comes to digital everyone knows there is a i digital everyone knows there is a cost, the wiring, chips, precious metals, the water that cools the
Data Processing<\/a> centres. What we dont often talk about is the energy going into ai and the training of large language marbles like chat gpt. \ufffd , large language marbles like chat gpt. , a,. , gpt. Because they are far more hunu gpt. Because they are far more hungry that gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have seen gpt. Because they are far more i hungry that we have seen before. Gpt. Because they are far more hungry that we have seen before. We have talked about air models and played with them. They are trained and deployed india centres. The data centres consume vast amounts of electricity. So if you are powering the data centre with nonrenewable sources, then, essentially you have potentially huge
Carbon Emissions<\/a> and those particular models we are talking about the generative ai ai models, but also the models, images videos consume a large amount. So in 2019 we said stream in our video it was 36 grams of catjust to put that into context for everyone because thatis into context for everyone because that is why we are here, that is driving a car typical petrol car about 160 metres. Meta had just relieved the third model on one of my favourite platforms and they said that admitted about 2290
Metric Tonnes<\/a> of co2. So to put that into context, that is about 500 average cars and what they admit in an entire year. So you start to get what we had with digital which is what we had with digital which is what you asked all the way to these really huge ai models. I want to show you what i looked a little bit earlier before i came in. Ijust looked at half of an hour of the images produced on major knee. This is what youre seeing now. So you have about ten unique images produced by this particular platform about half an hour about 430 uk time today. Just as images. Just on one channel of where you can find it. There are hundreds and hundreds, but just those ten along with take about two and half times the
Battery Charge<\/a> of the phone. So this is a significant problem and if anyone is interested there are great interviews with
Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> and others who said there is going to be an energy bottleneck. Obviously for activists this is a significant problem. Some really looking forward to sasha. Lets bring in sasha luccioni. As the lead
Climate Researcher<\/a> at hugging face, shes spent nearly a decade looking at data storage and
Machine Learning<\/a> and how this all contributes to our
Energy Consumption<\/a>. Welcome to the programme. Thank you for having me. Before we get started, maybe i could frame our conversation with an image you sent us that visuallyjust underlines how expensive our digital usage has become. So here is googles annual energy use, 18. 3 trillion watts, 10 15 of that currently going towards ai. And here is what the
Republic Of Ireland<\/a> uses in any one year, 29. 3 trillion watts. So one company, sasha, is now consuming two thirds of what a
Small Company<\/a> uses each year. Yet, i dont hear governments talking about that problem. I think that is because talking about that problem. I think that is because ai talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is a talking about that problem. I think that is because ai is a horizontal i that is because ai is a horizontal it is not that is because ai is a horizontal it is not agricultural transportation and it affects all industries. Anything that uses ai from industries. Anything that uses ai from navigation to web search so i think from navigation to web search so i think governments dont know what bucket think governments dont know what bucket to think governments dont know what bucket to put it in and when you dont bucket to put it in and when you dont know. Bucket to put it in and when you dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. Can dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. ,. , dont know, you lent it slip through the cracks. ,. ,. , dont know, you lent it slip through the cracke the cracks. Can you describe this in the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of large the cracks. Can you describe this in the terms of large language the cracks. Can you describe this in i the terms of
Large Language Models<\/a>, what their usage is like and actually tell us what that means in terms of
Energy Consumption<\/a> and the impact on the environment. Language models have impact on the environment. Language models have become impact on the environment. Language models have become one impact on the environment. Language models have become one of impact on the environment. Language models have become one of the impact on the environment. Language models have become one of the mostj models have become one of the most popular models have become one of the most popular usages of ai and they are being popular usages of ai and they are being deployed in everything nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your fridge nowadays. You can talk to your stove or your fridge and in a recent study we found or your fridge and in a recent study we found that training a large language model is very energy intensive. That is the numbers you give intensive. That is the numbers you give. Actually each query uses energy give. Actually each query uses energy. Depending on the size of the model. Energy. Depending on the size of the model, zoo500,000,000 energy. Depending on the size of the model, zoo 500,000,000 queries will equal the model, zoo 500,000,000 queries will equal the amount of energy for training equal the amount of energy for training. So it may seem like a lot, but for training. So it may seem like a lot, but for chatgpt, it averages around 10 million but for chatgpt, it averages around 10 million users a day. So within a couple 10 million users a day. So within a couple of 10 million users a day. So within a couple of weeks you have this vast amount couple of weeks you have this vast amount of couple of weeks you have this vast amount of energy that is equivalent to all amount of energy that is equivalent to all of amount of energy that is equivalent to all of these cars over a year. Butiust to all of these cars over a year. Butjust with people using the to all of these cars over a year. But just with people using the tool. Did you but just with people using the tool. Did you see the story this week that microsoft are going to plough in about 100 billion into this supercomputer called stargate and it will be powered by not one, they say, but several
Nuclear Power<\/a> stations. That got me thinking because i have heard the head at the talk about this and he said, that is how we will have to work, we will have to create our own energy systems. Is that where new energy comes from, the
Biggest Companies<\/a> in the
World Driving<\/a> investment . It is a problem the
World Driving<\/a> investment . It is a problem. Because to what extent do you want a problem. Because to what extent do you want
Big Tech Companies<\/a> building their own you want
Big Tech Companies<\/a> building their own
Nuclear Reactors<\/a> . May be that energy their own
Nuclear Reactors<\/a> . May be that energy could be better used for other that energy could be better used for other things. That energy could be better used for otherthings. Because that energy could be better used for other things. Because we should be decarbonise in our energy globally. Currently. Decarbonise in our energy globally. Currently, if we are going to funnel all of currently, if we are going to funnel all of that currently, if we are going to funnel all of that investment into the energy all of that investment into the energy use for al may be other
Sectors Energy<\/a> use for al may be other sectors will get overlooked and mayhe sectors will get overlooked and maybe we should focus on those if you want maybe we should focus on those if you want to maybe we should focus on those if you want to decarbonise. What im excited about you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when we you want to decarbonise. What im excited about is when we talk you want to decarbonise. What iml excited about is when we talk about al models and i was on hugging face ai models and i was on hugging face today, for those who do not know what it is it is a marker one model repository i like models have a description now on potentially how much energy they have used. You produce something novel at hugging face so when you are building these ai models we are focused on the latency and speed and
High Performance<\/a> the model is but you are potentially creating a little trip adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that. Adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that adviser on how efficient is. Tell us about that. ,. ,. , about that. Currently when people go on hu tlnt about that. Currently when people go on hugging face about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they shop about that. Currently when people go on hugging face they shop around i about that. Currently when people go | on hugging face they shop around for models on hugging face they shop around for models that work for the task they want to models that work for the task they want to do models that work for the task they want to do. It could be language, audio. Want to do. It could be language, audio. It want to do. It could be language, audio, it could be image generation or even audio, it could be image generation or even looking at video. Typically they look or even looking at video. Typically they look at things like performance or latency they look at things like performance or latency but im calculating the energy or latency but im calculating the energy usage across all different tasks energy usage across all different tasks in energy usage across all different tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and to tasks in models on the hub, hugging face and to provide that information to people face and to provide that information to people so they can factor it into maybe to people so they can factor it into maybe it to people so they can factor it into maybe it is to people so they can factor it into maybe it is not only faster but more efficient maybe it is not only faster but more efficient but must performative but vastly efficient but must performative but vastly more efficient. Signs developing
Energy Star Ratings<\/a> for al models. ,. ,. ,. , ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the problem. Ai models. Since we are talk about how to mitigate the problem. Let l let me introduce you to chris starkey. He is the ceo of the london based start up nexgen cloud. They have been in business since 2020,
Sourcing Data Centres<\/a> that are entirely powered by
Renewable Energy<\/a>. Welcome to the programme. Tell us what you do and how your clients would typically work. We what you do and how your clients would typically work. What you do and how your clients would typically work. We are on the other side of would typically work. We are on the other side of the would typically work. We are on the other side of the fence. Would typically work. We are on the other side of the fence. Our other side of the fence. Our business other side of the fence. Our business is other side of the fence. Our business is all other side of the fence. Our business is all about other side of the fence. Ourl business is all about building other side of the fence. Our business is all about building large scale business is all about building large scale gpu business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Basically business is all about building large scale gpu clusters. Basically we i scale gpu clusters. Basically we have scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core focus scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a core focus on scale gpu clusters. Basically we have a
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Renewable Energy<\/a> data centres to 100 of demand. Think about how quick it was that chat6pt exploded. Amazing. Amazing stuff and thank you for being with us here on ai6 coated. After the
Break Preamble Guide<\/a> is through some of the big stories for the week. Has anyone seen the ad for the apple ipad and we will see an ad made entirely by ai we will see an ad made entirely by aland how long before we can speak to animals with mac we will be right back. Welcome back. The new ad for the ai powered ipad pro has sparked quite the backlash among hollywood creatives. We will find out why. Maybe it is because they can now create an entire movie without auditioning someone who looks like the russian president. This is the ai generated putin, a biopic the guardian says will be out for release in september. If you can reproduce vladimir putin, then it stands to reason you can recreate anyone, including the dead. The times reports theres been a surge in deadbots, or griefbots. Families using al to bring their loved one back to life. But does it require tighter regulation . And how long before we can understand what the animals are saying . Scientists that have spoken to sky news say they think ai will one day help them communicate with a sperm whale. Dr dolittle, i presume so, priya, there is already huge sensitivity within the
Creative Arts<\/a> industries that al is replacing the talent, is destroying the
Human Experience<\/a> of playing an instrument or writing a song. So with that in mind, let me play you the new ad from apple thats been released to promote the new ai ipad pro. Music
All I Ever Need Is You<\/a> by sonny cher sometimes when im down and all alone 0h. All i ever need is you winters come and they go and we watch the melting snow so as summer follows spring. It is called crush. Just imagine all the things itll be used to create, said apple ceo tim cook. Let me read you the response from director and writer asif kapadia. Dont know why anyone thought this ad was a good idea. It is the most honest metaphor for what
Tech Companies<\/a> do to the arts, to musicians, creators, writers, film makers squeeze them, use them, not pay well, take everything, then say its all created by them. We have talked about this on the programme before. Ads, we have talked about this on the programme before. \ufb01x. Bit we have talked about this on the programme before. A bit insensitive . Yes there is programme before. A bit insensitive . Yes there is anger programme before. A bit insensitive . Yes there is anger because programme before. A bit insensitive . Yes there is anger because of programme before. A bit insensitive . Yes there is anger because of the yes there is anger because of the threat ai poses but also the idea that tech really misunderstands the art in the fact that what is technologys role in diminishing artistic and cultural mediums. What is really interesting and i think there is a funny video that can we play it will take 30 seconds on actually what one director created in response to apples adverts. Can we get that up . It was a film maker who reversed it and essentially describing, a good quality video essentially all of the arts, instruments crushing the ipad in the reverse of that. Why do i not think that this is an actual threat . Because instruments are notjust tools. Your guitar, piano, it is a tactile immersive experiments most i have a neck on ds a lark it enables me to have that artistic creativity when i am taking a picture. In ipad, as great as it is, i love my ipad, but it is not able to do. When it comes to painting and drawing can be of artists that use difficult physical mediums like oils and acrylics, it is not all about that physical. Acrylics, it is not all about that h sical. , acrylics, it is not all about that h sical. ,. , acrylics, it is not all about that h sical. ,. ,. Physical. People are wondering what the movies of physical. People are wondering what the movies of the physical. People are wondering what the movies of the future physical. People are wondering what the movies of the future might physical. People are wondering what the movies of the future might look| the movies of the future might look like and what it might do to the cinematic arts in particular. Maybe ship a quick look at this. This is the new ai biopic entirely created by
Artificial Intelligence<\/a>. The president has found time for you after all. This will culminate in a nuclear strike. Only i can save you and your family from prison. Vladimir putin has won i with 53. 44 of the vote. Its an embarrassing result. What would have been the satisfactory result for you, mr president . 100. What is interesting about that and what panics people as you dont need auditions for people that look like putin they can create him. They have a bill clinton there that looks like bill clinton. There may be an issue over that. ,. , , clinton. There may be an issue over that. , ,. , clinton. There may be an issue over that. , ,. , that. Absolutely in terms of your ima. E that. Absolutely in terms of your image rights that. Absolutely in terms of your image rights and that. Absolutely in terms of your image rights and we that. Absolutely in terms of your image rights and we have that. Absolutely in terms of your image rights and we have talked | image rights and we have talked about the legal issues before. But you can do this at low cost with the sort of technology now. You dont have to deal with the egos, necessarily that you may otherwise have to. They are huge ethical concerns, notjust because it is easy talking about putin. A lot of the world may say that is fine, but actually were starting to blur the lines between reality and fiction. You can misrepresent, in many ways. You can misrepresent, in many ways. You question in why theyjust did not have an actor in the biopic. This is clearlyjust about using that technology. Theyre so much more to come in the future when we talk about the peaks and whether they are a good or bad use. Clearly, if this was that you or of rishi sunak or keir starmer, then it would be up in arms about it. Be up in arms about it. Deepfakes. Be up in arms about it. Deepfakes. It be up in arms about it. Deepfakes. It takes a much
Greater Effect<\/a> when it looks specifically like them. The best story of the week is this story about sperm whales. We have known for some time that their calls, their clicks, are highly sophisticated to coordinte and communicate with one another. But what if there is actually a language . The scientiests studying these whales in the
East Caribbean<\/a> found they use morse code with a rhythm and a tempo that suggests it is conveying meaning. And thats where ai comes in. Potentially. How . When you are lookin at potentially. How . When you are looking at language, potentially. How . When you are looking at language, will potentially. How . When you are looking at language, will be potentially. How . When you are i looking at language, will be mapped language, we map the words. Imagine creating a map of all of the words of where they are. Then you catholic the statistical difference between words. This is how you end up with these
Large Language Models<\/a> you calculate. Here, what you are looking at is when you have these clicks, they are looking simplistically for patterns between them. And they are recording what them. And they are recording what the wales are doing and finding how those patterns might relate to diving really deep or coming up or feeding and then they are attaching essentially those patterns and creating this map and language and then, there will be an exercise where they will try to essentially overlay that with the english language. The test is when they hear these clicks, really loud, by the way. If you watched videos on these wales they are super loud. But when they hear those clicks, can the ai model that they create can then predict with the whale is going to do. If predict with the whale is going to do. , a predict with the whale is going to do. ,. , predict with the whale is going to do. ,. Do. If it works then you connect them a bit do. If it works then you connect them a bit further do. If it works then you connect them a bit further and do. If it works then you connect them a bit further and start do. If it works then you connect them a bit further and start to i them a bit further and start to create the language and talk back. People. This raises huge ethical issues on how we are interacting with animals. And whether we should stop should you . I and whether we should stop should ou . , \ufffd. ,. , and whether we should stop should ou . ,\ufffd. ,. , and whether we should stop should ou . , \ufffd. ,. ,. , you . I dont want my dog asking for a biscuit every you . I dont want my dog asking for a biscuit every five you . I dont want my dog asking for a biscuit every five minutes. A biscuit every five minutes. Absolutely not. Talk to the i dont want my dog telling me he prefers my husband. I dont want my dog telling me he prefers my husband. Thats the worst one. The prefers my husband. Thats the worst one the thing prefers my husband. Thats the worst one. The thing is, prefers my husband. Thats the worst one. The thing is, obviously prefers my husband. Thats the worst one. The thing is, obviously theres l one. The thing is, obviously theres a lot we can learn as well. But theres going to be huge questions about it. Thereve been lots of people working on thats and elephants and there has been a fantastic podcast done on it and i suggest you listen to it. Congratulation to sky news who picked that up in the scientists. That is it from us. Same time next week. All the programmes we do are on the bbc\ufffd s youtube channel. All the big interviews, lots of good people coming on the programme now so if you want to look at previous episodes, go and have a look at that. Hello there. Temperatures have been creeping up day by day. High pressure has brought plenty of sunshine around, but a
Weather Front<\/a> launching across
Northern Scotland<\/a> has brought thicker cloud here, some spots of rain and thursday was another grey day here with outbreaks of rain. Now, as we move through tonight, it does look like that
Weather Front<\/a> will eventually move northwards, become confined to the
Northern Isles<\/a> for a while through the night before it clears away. It becomes drier here, but a dry night to come for most areas. Bit of mist and fog here and there, temperatures ranging from 9 12 celsius. Friday, then, our area of
High Pressure<\/a> continues to bring a lot of fine and settled weather. We lose that
Weather Front<\/a> from
Northern Scotland<\/a>, so, apart from a bit of early cloud, some mist and fog, most places should have a fine dry day. Widespread sunshine, particularly for england and wales, into northern ireland, central and
Southern Scotland<\/a>, but some sunshine into the highlands as well. Thatll lift temperatures up to 22 celsius perhaps in aberdeen. 23 24, perhaps, in the warmest spots in england and wales. Through friday night, it looks like well see mist and fog returning in places. A bit of low cloud, sea fog pushing into eastern england, east anglia and the south east. That could creep a little bit further westwards into the midlands first thing on saturday. But again, those temperatures, 9 12 celsius. Now for the weekend. It does stay warm, there will be some good spells of sunshine around, but the shower risk will start to increase, particularly as we head into sunday. Thats because weve got a
Weather Front<\/a> and low pressure developing, pushing towards our shores, particularly by sunday. And into next week, itll be a lot more unsettled than weve had this week. Saturday, though, another warm day to come, a bit of early mist and fog and some low cloud across eastern england. Otherwise, plenty of sunshine, though we could see a few heavy showers develop across the high ground of northern england, central and
Southern Scotland<\/a> into the afternoon. That could be thundery as well. But a warm day to come, quite humid too, the low to mid 205 quite widely. Sunday probably the warmest day of the week across southern areas. It could be up to 26 celsius, plenty of sunshine. But then the showers and thunderstorms could become a bit more widespread through the afternoon. And the temperatures may be coming down a little bit across
Western Areas<\/a> as the clouds build up in the sky. Then as we head into next week low pressure takes over, it will become a lot more unsettled, showers or longer spells of rain at times. But there will still be a little bit of sunshine too, take care. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. The us fears that if israel goes ahead with a full invasion of rafah, there will be carnage. Already theres fear and panic with tens of thousands fleeing, and food and fuel quickly running out. Tragicallyjoe biden has been the greatest friend to hamas and hezbollah that there is on planet earth. Now those sound like extraordinary statements. What are the facts . I think within the administration, they believe that israel has everything it needs in terms of american armaments. If it wanted to go into rafah, it could still do that. This is about trying to pressure mr netanyahu into changing i or modifying his decision. Joining me tonight are leslie vinjamuri, the director of the us americas at the chatham house, and republican strategist mike shields in washington. We will get to mike and leslie very shortly. First, the latest headlines
President Biden<\/a> has warned
Benjamin Netenyahu<\/a> that the us will stop more weapons bound for israel if it launches a major
Ground Operation<\/a> in the gaza city of rafah. Despite the concerns expressed by the white house, israel appears ready to mount a large scale assault on the city, which they say is hamass last major stronghold in the territory. Thousands of people have joined pro palestinian protests a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman in her 605 was fatally stabbed in north london. Paramedics and an
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