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BBCNEWS Verified July 3, 2024

President has violated a gag order and found him in contempt of court. Hes fined a total of 9,000 for nine breaches. 0ur North America correspondent nada tawfik has the latest from outside the court in new york. Tell us about the fine and the comments when issuing the find. Yeah. Well, matthew, we had been waiting for the judge to rule on this request from prosecutors to hold donald trump in contempt of court. He rejected donald trump was not lawyers that the post his Campaign Website were responding to political attacks. He found in only one of the ten instances that there was a tenuous correlation as he put it to some remarks by one of the key witnesses in this trial, Michael Cohen. 0therwise witnesses in this trial, Michael Cohen. Otherwise he sided with prosecutors that donald trump had wilfully violated a gag water nine out of ten times. Under new york law, he is only able to find donald trump 1000 per violation. He did that but also said given donald trump is wealthy he might not be discouraged from violating the gag water but he said that was not off the table. He has till close of business friday to pay the fine, it is a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of thousands he is facing in his other civilfraud trial. But he also has to take down those Offending Posts by this afternoon. Those Offending Posts by this afternoon those Offending Posts by this afternoon. � ,. , afternoon. Briefly in terms of the latest from afternoon. Briefly in terms of the latest from the afternoon. Briefly in terms of the latest from the witness afternoon. Briefly in terms of the latest from the witness box, afternoon. Briefly in terms of the latest from the witness box, tell| afternoon. Briefly in terms of the l latest from the witness box, tell us the latest. The third witness has finished the latest. The third witness 1 3 finished Cross Examination by the defence, the prosecution, he was Michael Cohens former banker and was Reallyjust Outlining the way Michael Cohen opened up a shell company, nail llc to take stormy danielss lawyer and transfer her the 130,000 hush money payment. This is ultimately a case about falsifying business records, prosecutors have presented to the jury prosecutors have presented to the jury those transactions to help prove their case. Earlier i spoke to criminal defence lawyer and former prosecutor randy zellin who gave us his thoughts. I dont know if it was shakespeare that said it, but this is really much ado about nothing. 9000 to donald trump is 9 for the rest of us. So certainly mr trump won that round. In fact, for him to argue that he is treated differently, hes right. For him to say hes treated unfairly is wrong. Anyone else would have been injail from the get go and would still be sitting injail. So chalk the 9,000 up to flicking it off the shoulder, win for trump. I understand what youre saying, but we heard from the judge that clear warning. Now, there have been repeated breaches of this gag order over the last few weeks and yet weve only got to this stage now. Is there any realistic prospect ofjail time if there are further breaches, do you think . Legally, yes. Practically no. Judge merchan knows very well that to even entertain seriously the thought ofjail, to actually incarcerate the former president would play directly into the former president s hands. It would probably guarantee some level of unrest in this country. It would probably guarantee mr trump an even more solidified base and maybe even help him get re elected. So i think the last thing that judge merchan is interested in doing is giving something that he knows that the former president wants. It also plays into the narrative Thatjudge Merchan is conflicted, and i think it would make it easier for the former president to argue in the higher court. See . Of course, he is operating under a conflict of interest. He put me injail. Interesting. Lets move to the wider trial because this week three starting. What have you made about the case so far, both as someone whos an expert, both in defense and prosecution . The difficulty here in terms of if you want to try to keep score, its a matter of everyone understanding that the prosecution simply doing well, doing 0k is not going to cut it. Its not good enough. In the United States, proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt is such an incredibly high bar for the prosecution. If we think of the preponderance of the evidence is tipping the scale from 50 50 to 51 49 proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt is like 90 10. So to say, well, the prosecution had a good day, prosecution had a good week, not going to do it. The prosecution has to be killing it to have a realistic shot of getting a conviction. And i think here theres way too much confusion in terms of whats legal, whats not legal. Is it legal for a tabloid to pay for a story to kill it . To open up a bank account in order to make a payment . Can you really influence an election through the entry of these false numbers in the books and records . Is this using the system of Criminal Justice to weaponize to to take the presumptive nominee out of the race . Way too much going on here. So right now, prosecution is ok, but theyre not winning. I get what youre saying. But the counterpoint would be that if the prosecution can prove donald trump knew, he knew what Michael Cohen was doing, and were told there are tapes potentially as evidence. We know that donald trump very scrupulous about every cheque he signed. If they can prove that connection, then presumably the prosecution would be home and dry, wouldnt it . Technically, yes. Again, there is a difference here between the technical. And the reality. I think as far as technically you may very well be right. There may be evidence that mr trump had knowledge, which is one component of a criminal case here, and he intended to commit a crime, which is the other component. Even if thats true, there may be one jury. 0nejuror, im sorry, one juror sitting in thatjury who is simply not going to convict the former president , if for no other reason than the former president s been saying, you are going to convict me. It only takes one in the United States fora hungjury, a mistrial, which would be a huge win for the former president , because this case would not be retried again before the election. So technically, youre absolutely right. Now to a sword attack in london with police confirming a 14 year old boy has died, and four others injured. Police had been called to reports, of a vehicle being driven into a house in hainault. A 36 year old man is in custody the attacks are not thought to be terror related. The live pictures from close to the scene because you see the microphone is all set up. We are expecting a News Conference in the next few minutes. When that starts we will take that and get the latest developments. We had in the last hour came charles� s statement from Buckingham Palace calling the stabbings horrific senses his thoughts and prayers with those affected, particularly the young victims family who have lost their life. That statement in the last 60 minutes. Lets look back at the events of today. First thing this morning, and a man armed with a sword crouches outside a house in london. Shouting. Lock your doors police then follow the suspect around the back in what is usually a quiet residential area. We now know that a car was driven into a house at 7am this morning, as people left for work and school. Five were stabbed, including two Police Officers. It is with Great Sadness that i confirm that one of those injured in the incident has died from the injuries. Taken to hospital after being stabbed and sadly died a short while after. Terrified people in the area were told to follow Police Instructions and the Transport Network nearby was closed, including roads and the tube station. I saw it all from my bedroom window. And then when he went into the house, or into the driveway a couple of doors down, iran down outside and then police tased him. I saw it, i was standing on the road watching it, from the other side of the road. A Grey Transit Van pulled up. The man got out with a samurai sword, tried to talk to one female resident. She ran away from him. As hes pulled the sword out in the air, shes tried to warn the other neighbour. As hes turned round, hes been struck in the head. The cordons are still in place. The met police say a man has been arrested and they dont believe it is terror related, or that theres any ongoing threat to the Wider Community. In a statement, the Prime Minister said, this is a shocking incident. My thoughts are with those affected and their families. This attack is a devastating and appalling crime. Im sure i speak on behalf of the entire city when i say our thoughts and prayers are with this young child and his family. And while an increase of knife crime in the capital is known to many here, the violence is no less shocking. Frances read, bbc news. Straight to the live pictures and we expect that News Conference, when it starts we will get the latest. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. To the middle east, where hamas leaders, are considering a new Ceasefire Proposal from israel the deal includes a a0 day truce, in return for the release of some hostages. It would also allow for displaced families to return to northern gaza. Its also reported to involve, new wording on restoring calm to gaza, designed to satisfy hamass demand for a permanent ceasefire. A source close to the talks told the bbc the new proposal from israel is significantly different from previous offers. Meanwhile, the top us diplomat Antony Blinken has arrived injordan on the second leg of his latest middle east tour. Hell meet King Abdullah and senior officials with discussions expected to focus on boosting Aid Deliveries to gaza. The us Secretary Of State is due to fly to israel later to discuss the ceasefire negotiations. Earlier, i spoke to nawaf al thani, the former qatari director of Defence Intelligence operations, and former Defence Attache to the us. I asked him how close these negotiations are. I think were very close. The deal seems to be structured, as you said, quite differently, and unfortunately, as weve seen in the past, usually at the last minute, as well, things tend to break down. Were keeping an eye on that, obviously, all over the middle east and im sure in washington as well. But the latest news from israel and the reporting of the possible or probable Land Offensive in rafah, maybe that 11th hour spoilerfor this deal. I was going to ask you, what do you think are the gaps that still need to be filled . Well, again, Ithink Communications between the two parties is still not there. While there is a basis for an agreement that yesterday lord cameron and Secretary Blinken both said was generous, today, Prime Minister netanyahu and many members of his cabinet came out in saying that, you know, no matter what, the war will go on until the goal and the end of the war is achieved. The goals have been achieved, which is the destruction of hamas. Now, that happening within 2a hours of that statement from The Americans is counterproductive, i would think. And it sends a message that may be understood from hamas as being defiant in terms of areas of movement. As being defiant. In terms of areas of movement, how significant is it were now discussing a 40 day ceasefire, not a permanent ceasefire . Also, we seem to hit a major hurdle a couple of weeks ago when hamas was talking about not being in control of all of the hostages. Now, the numbers there, again, seem to have been reduced in terms of what were talking about for releases. Is that Significant Movement as well, do you think . I think its Significant Movement. It is definitely structured in a different way. Unfortunately, as weve seen in the past, hamas and other factions in gaza have said that they dont may not have a clear number of all the hostages where theyre located. There is the possibility, in fact we know that there have been hostages that have been killed, through either bombings or internally in gaza, depending on on the story. Its quite unclear. So getting back all the hostages is the unclear bit about this. Now, moving forward, this is structured differently. Now, will the israelis stick to the plan and not attack rafah before that . That is the big question, because if that continues to happen, its very unrealistic to expect that hamas would agree to a ceasefire. Benjamin netanyahu says, israel will carry out an operation in rafah regardless of whether a Ceasefire Deal is reached with hamas in gaza. He made the comments, during a meeting with the families of hostages, where he reiterated that israel would eliminate hama, and achieve total victory. A large protest was held in tel aviv Last Night Calling for the hostages to be released. Large fires were lit, with demonstrators clashing with police. A large protest was held in tel aviv Last Night Calling for the hostages to be released. Large fires were lit, with demonstrators clashing with police. A large protest was held in tel aviv Last Night Calling for the hostages to be released. Large fires were lit, with demonstrators clashing with police. Moshe emmelio lavi spoke to us earlier. His brother in law is held hostage by hamas in gaza, he gave us his thoughts on the new possiblities of a ceasefire agreement. We are trying to be as hopeful as possible. Try not to let statements made to political basis as done today by the Prime Minister, Prime Minister netanyahu. As done a few days ago by the Finance Minister and focus on on the reports and what we receive behind closed doors, indications that there is a deal on the table, that israel is agreeing to that deal, or at least to significant portions of that deal, and that we are waiting for hamas to respond. Most likely tomorrow night, after they left cairo today. And we as a family received some sort of glimmer of hope three days ago, on saturday evening, when hamas released the psychological warfare of My Brother In Law depicting him alive recently. And so we hope that is we dont Pay Attention to the content, but we hope that the fact is alive and others are still alive will give the government and to other stakeholders the push to close the deal as soon as possible. I wanted to ask you about exactly what youve just touched on, because every time we have spoken over the weeks, over the months, you had heard nothing about your brother in law. Weve had a change in the last seven days. What was that like to actually hear that news, see that video . It was a difficult experience for our family. Im in israel right now. We normally speak when im in the us where im based. I returned to israel to mark passover with my family. We were scattered all around, to be honest. I was on my way to the rally in tel aviv on saturday evening. My sister had a medical issue and other members of the family were not together. But we received a notification. A video came out. We run back to where my family is in Southern Israel and processed the video together. Processed our emotions. It was difficult to watch. He doesnt look the same, the glimmer in his eyes is no longer there. The smile is gone. He looks frail and weak, but is alive. And thats what were trying to focus on, because it gives us and thats what were trying to focus on. News coming in from the uk, that two men have been charged with causing criminal damage to the famous Sycamore Gap Tree and also Adrian Swore Last September in northumberland. That news coming from the crown prosecution service. That story getting so much response at the time when it was felt. That news coming in from the crown prosecution service. Two men have been charged with causing criminal damage to that tree and he dreams will. The International Court ofjustice has ruled, that it will not order germany to halt military aid to israel. Nicaragua had accused berlin of breaching the genocide convention, and making itself an accessory to the killing of civilians in gaza. The German Government says the allegations were unjustified. Thejudgment, or rather the order itself is not particularly illuminating. It recites its powers. It recites the allegations made by nicaragua, the defence advanced by the state of israel with an account of the weapons it has given, the weapons it has yet to decide to give, and the measures it has to ensure that the weapons are not improperly used. And then it goes on. Ill read you what it says. To say no more than based on the factual information and leg

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