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crashes off a bridge. also on the programme, scotland could become the first part of the uk to legalise assisted dying. we'll look at how different countries around the world approach these sensitive decisions. and we'll have the latest from the world of artificial intelligence. ai therapy, genital scans and perfect pints all explained in al decoded. we'll we�* ll start we'll start this hour with this breaking news out of south africa. 45 people at least are believed to have been killed after a bus crashed in the south african province of limpopo. these are the latest pictures we have here. just on in the ravine there the remains of the crash as the bus seemingly crashed through the barriers there and came off that road come off the bridge. into that ravine below. at least 45 people killed, another person seriously injured, bus travelling from botswana, it's belief. it exploded on the floor there of the ravine. let's speak now to heidi, ourjournalist based in our journalist based in johannesburg. ourjournalist based in johannesburg. thank you for coming on the programme, just talk us through what we know about what happened here? is through what we know about what happened here?— through what we know about what happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost — happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control _ happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but _ happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but what - happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but what we - the bus lost control but what we know as the bus was travelling from botswana to an area in limpopo known as maria. it's a church gathering that happens every single year and people from all over come through to this particular gathering. now, it seems as though from what we saw on the scene is that the bus might�*ve lost control, it hit the barrier and thenit lost control, it hit the barrier and then it seems as though it crashed, hung onto the barrier and then crashed into the ravine as you mentioned. we know that 45 people have lost their lives, there were 46 people on board. there has been one survivor, an eight—year—old girl, one female was airlifted to hospital but unfortunately she did not make it. ithink but unfortunately she did not make it. i think what's so tragic and horrific having been on the scene is the fact that paramedics told us that the bus caught fire and people inside the bus were trapped, they could not get out and they were asking and begging and crying and pleading to be let out of the bus, but unfortunately it was too difficult for paramedics and officials to try and save anyone else from that bus. just officials to try and save anyone else from that bus.— else from that bus. just really dreadful details _ else from that bus. just really dreadful details there, - else from that bus. just really dreadful details there, heidi. | else from that bus. just really i dreadful details there, heidi. we are seeing these pictures from the scene that you referenced and provided there. it looks quite a big drop between the road and —— that bridge there —— and the ground. we don't know at the moment what led up to this or what could have happened. exactly, and we know that drop from the top of the bridge where it seems as though the bus had the impact onto the barriers and then crashed, it's a 50 metre drop so it's a very high length, or height rather. obviously the impact we are seeing as the bus hit the barrier, crashed and then hit in that ravine over there. this is what sparked the fire that happened. and we've also been told by paramedics that a lot of the passengers that were on board were mothers with children, which probably speaks to the eight—year—old who managed to survive, we don't know how she survived. but also seems to have further exacerbated the fire is that a lot of them were carrying gas cylinders because where they were heading to they were going to spend the whole weekend there and they were going to be using these gas cylinders for cooking purposes and this is probably what exacerbated the fire. it's still not clear, of course the department for transport is investigating but is going to be very difficult for the department to do so because of the fire, and it's going to be very difficult to really figure out what exactly happened and the fact that there is only one survivor and she's eight years old. heidi, thank you so much for talking us through that, we appreciate your time and your reporting here. and if we get any more details about what happened or what because that crash there, we will cross straight back to the bridge. now we'll head to the us. sam bankman—fried. he was responsible for one of the biggest financial frauds in us history. now he has been sentenced to 25 years for fraud and money laundering. the 32—year—old became a billionaire through his cryptocurrency exchange platform ftx, but the company collapsed in 2022 and bankman—fried was found guilty of stealing billions of dollars from his customers. sentencing him today, a judge in new york said he had shown no remorse. let's speak to our new york business correspondent erin delmore, who's outside the courthouse. —— michelle fleury. -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild da , the -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day. the judge _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day. the judge had _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to decide - -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to decide a - day, thejudge had to decide a couple of things. taking into account the sentencing, he was considering the age, the losses involved, the impact on the victims, but also the message of deterrent, and ultimately he settled on 25 years for sam bank been freed, turning them to prison for that amount of time. it was less than lawyers who had been prosecuting the case had asked for, they wanted 40-50 case had asked for, they wanted 40—50 years, by contrast lawyers for mr bingaman freed said he should get less than seven years, and judge lewis kaplan decided splitting the difference in a little with the to go. as you mentioned, he is only 32 years old so if he serves the full time he will come out sometime in his late 50s. and that was a factor, thejudge his late 50s. and that was a factor, the judge clearly thought that although mr bingaman freed has autism, as he said in court, sometimes can be a bit socially awkward, judge kaplan clearly felt that this was a serious crime that he wanted to send that message of deterrent. he was also not convinced that mr brinkman freed had showed an remorse. —— bankman—fried. lawyers and professors have been telling me it seems to be the sort of right amount, it felt right to them and would be hard to challenge. ilude’iiii would be hard to challenge. we'll aet a little would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in the _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in the sentencing in a moment. let's get a little more background. sam bankman—fried used his own image to attract investors, and at one point had an estimated fortune of $26 billion. ftx allowed people to trade their normal money for digital currencies like bitcoin, but money stolen from ftx was used to fund an investment fund, alameda research, as well as to buy luxury property in the bahamas and donate to politicians who might support cryptocurrency—friendly laws. both companies went bust in 2022, and bankman—fried was arrested. our cyber correspondentjoe tidy was the last person to interview bankman—fried before he was arrested in december 2022. here's some of that interview. were you incompetent or were you fraudulent? i didn't knowingly commit fraud. i don't think i committed fraud — i didn't want any of this to happen. i was certainly not nearly as competent as i thought i was. it was...a really bad mistake and it hurt a lot of people and, like, that's on me one way or another. let's speak to neama rahmani, who's a formerfederal prosecutor and the president of west coast trial lawyers. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the programme-— thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the rouramme. . ., . programme. thanks for having me. what was your _ programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction _ programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to - programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to that - programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to that 25 l what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence? what was your reaction to that 25 yearsentence? i’m what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence?— what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence? i'm not surprised. judue year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan _ year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is — year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is an _ year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is an old-school - year sentence? i'm not surprised. i judge kaplan is an old-schooljudge judge kaplan is an old—schooljudge and he was going to stick within those advisory guideline range. he was going to impose nowhere near the 100 year sentence that us probation was recommending, or even the 40—50 years. 25 was about right, i predicted somewhere in the 20—30 range. let's not forget, people that murdered people here in the united states usually get a sentence of 25 to life. , . , states usually get a sentence of 25 tolife. _, , , to life. usually political systems around the _ to life. usually political systems around the world _ to life. usually political systems around the world have - to life. usually political systems around the world have different| around the world have different standards, what is the expectation, we'll get onto appeals in a moment, but what is the expectation taking that sentence as is, how much of that sentence as is, how much of that will be actually served behind bars? ~ ., , . bars? well, it does matter. different — bars? well, it does matter. different states _ bars? well, it does matter. different states have - bars? well, it does matter. i different states have different percentages, but underfederal which percentages, but under federal which applies percentages, but underfederal which applies here, inmates have to serve 85% of their sentences. there are some programmes that might reduce that a bit more by like one or two years, but sam bankman—fried is going to have to spend about 20 years in federal prison. let’s going to have to spend about 20 years in federal prison.— years in federal prison. let's get to appeals _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and. _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and, what _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and, what happens i years in federal prison. let's get i to appeals and, what happens with years in federal prison. let's get - to appeals and, what happens with an appeal? we to appeals and, what happens with an a- eal? ~ ~' ., to appeals and, what happens with an a- eal? ~ ~ ., . to appeals and, what happens with an aueal? ~ ., . . ,, . , appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable. _ appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he _ appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has— appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired - appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired a - appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired a very appeal? we know an appeal is - inevitable, he has hired a very good appellate lawyer, in his statement today, it was a little bit meandering but importantly he said sorry, but he did not accept any responsibility for his actions or express remorse for the victims. that's something judge kaplan seized upon and the reason he didn't do so is going to take his chances on appeal. is is going to take his chances on a- eal. , is going to take his chances on a . eal. , ., ., is going to take his chances on a- eal. , . , ., is going to take his chances on aueal. , . , ., ~ ., ., appeal. is it too early to know on what potential— appeal. is it too early to know on what potential grounds _ appeal. is it too early to know on what potential grounds there - appeal. is it too early to know on i what potential grounds there could be for appeal here? i what potential grounds there could be for appeal here?— be for appeal here? i think it is too early. _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early. but _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance - be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance of. be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance of a l too early, but the chance of a successful appeal is slim. were talking about someone who was involved in one of the biggest and most brazen frauds in american history, and this really wasn't an accounting irregularity or inflating the stock price of a company. here's someone that stole money and used it for lavish personal expenses, boats, residences in the bahamas and so forth. i don't think an appellate court in the second circuit is going to look too kindly on that. thank ou so to look too kindly on that. thank you so much _ to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for— to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming - to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming on - to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming on the l you so much for coming on the programme, thank you. fit you so much for coming on the programme, thank you. of course, thanks for having _ programme, thank you. of course, thanks for having me. _ around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you're live with bbc news. scotland could become the first uk nation to legalise assisted dying if a bill introduced at holyrood is approved. under the proposals, a patient could only request medical assistance to end their life if they had an "advanced, progressive terminal" illness which has been diagnosed independently by two doctors. two doctors would also need to establish someone is mentally competent. the patient must be aged 16 or over and a resident of scotland for at least 12 months. they must also administer the life?ending medication themselves. these were the scenes outside the parliament building. it's a deeply polarising issue. supporters say it would ease suffering, but opponents are concerned that some terminally ill people may feel under pressure to end their lives. there is polling on this issue. let's take a look. joining me now is dr gillian wright. she is a former palliative care doctor and works for our duty of care, who are a group of health care professionals opposing the intentional killing of patients by assisted suicide or euthanasia. also ally thomson. she is the director of communications and scotland at dignity in dying. dignity in dying are a national campaign and membership organisation who believe in the option of assisted dying for terminally ill, mentally competent adults. thank you both for coming on the programme. thank you both for coming on the programme-— thank you both for coming on the rorramme. . ~ ,, y . programme. thank you very much. allie, can programme. thank you very much. allie. can i — programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start _ programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start with _ programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start with you. - allie, can i start with you. presumed support for this move in scotland? we presumed support for this move in scotland? ~ , . ,, , , scotland? we fully back this bill in scotland, lump-sum _ scotland? we fully back this bill in scotland, lump-sum polling - scotland? we fully back this bill in - scotland, lump-sum polling revealing scotland, lump—sum polling revealing that actually every single constituency in scotland is an unshakeable majority and us support of assisted dying. these are tightly drawn, measured proposals that put compassion in place and safety, and at its core as you said, it would be for advanced terminal illness only. there's a number of safeguards in place in the bill, and this would give dying people what they really need which is excellent palliative care, of course, but also the choice of an assisted death.— of an assisted death. jillian, if i can brina of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you — of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in _ of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on _ of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on that. - of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on that. he - can bring you in on that. he heard there the emphasis there on palliative care, on the safety, on safeguards. what's your response to this bill? . ~ , ., safeguards. what's your response to this bill? . ~ ., , safeguards. what's your response to thisbill? . ~ ., , this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are — this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are hugely _ this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are hugely concerned - this bill? thank you. doctors across| scotland are hugely concerned about the introduction of assisted suicide _ the introduction of assisted suicide. particularly forthose the introduction of assisted suicide. particularly for those who might— suicide. particularly for those who might be — suicide. particularly for those who might be more vulnerable and who might— might be more vulnerable and who might feel pressurised into taking their own — might feel pressurised into taking their own life. we are really concerned that this is legislation which _ concerned that this is legislation which is — concerned that this is legislation which is harmful, particularly for those _ which is harmful, particularly for those who— which is harmful, particularly for those who might have the least choice — those who might have the least choice. and there are patients who we've _ choice. and there are patients who we've seen— choice. and there are patients who we've seen in otherjurisdictions such— we've seen in otherjurisdictions such as — we've seen in otherjurisdictions such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden— such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden as — such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden as being one of the main reasons— burden as being one of the main reasons that they have chosen assisted — reasons that they have chosen assisted suicide. and we would argue that people can't make a true choice unless— that people can't make a true choice unless they— that people can't make a true choice unless they have access to real care _ unless they have access to real care and — unless they have access to real care. and they told us one in four patients— care. and they told us one in four patients across the uk don't get the palliative care that they need, and so we _ palliative care that they need, and so we are — palliative care that they need, and so we are really concerned that the scottish _ so we are really concerned that the scottish government would provide assisted _ scottish government would provide assisted suicide on the nhs, but there _ assisted suicide on the nhs, but there would not be the provision of palliative care for all, particularly out of hours and we often _ particularly out of hours and we often see — particularly out of hours and we often see that it... dr, particularly out of hours and we often see that it. . ._ often see that it... dr, 'ust to “um in often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on i often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on that, * often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on that, those _ often see that it... dr, just to jump in on that, those two i often see that it... dr, just to - jump in on that, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. you could've palliative care, you could increase funding for that as well as the option. increase funding for that as well as the 0 tion. , , . , the option. yes, but what gets really interesting _ the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to _ the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to note - the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to note what | the option. yes, but what gets l really interesting to note what in scotland — really interesting to note what in scotland when they were polled, 95% of them, _ scotland when they were polled, 95% of them, they felt that it would be, they would — of them, they felt that it would be, they would not prescribe lethal medication to their patients and that they— medication to their patients and that they are concerned particularly about _ that they are concerned particularly about toss — that they are concerned particularly about loss of trust and the doctor, they are _ about loss of trust and the doctor, they are concerned about what happens — they are concerned about what happens when it goes wrong and what happens _ happens when it goes wrong and what happens when it goes wrong and what happens when there is a prolonged death— happens when there is a prolonged death and — happens when there is a prolonged death and what happens when, for example. — death and what happens when, for example, there are complications. quite _ example, there are complications. quite a _ example, there are complications. quite a few— example, there are complications. quite a few issues there, won't have time to go through all of them, but allie can i bring you in on this issue of people feeling a burden and people in oregon and the us potentially citing that reason, what do you make of that?— do you make of that? well, i think what i do you make of that? well, i think what i would _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that is - do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that is in - what i would say to that is in oregon, asjillian knows, the actual main driver of people seeking access in assisted death is they could no longer take pleasure living anonymously in the way they chose or they were suffering in some form of real pain. this bill will apply to only a very limited number of people, very restrictive criteria. you have to be like i mentioned before, it in an advanced terminal illness. once it comes to that point, what you're looking at is not choosing between living and dying, that choice has been taken away from you already. it's between choosing a prolonged and painful death or being able to say i'll go this far and no else, i've done enough. we speak to people every day who tell me they would like to make that choice. jillian, what is your response that specific choice? i’m jillian, what is your response that specific choice?— jillian, what is your response that specific choice? i'm concerned for atients specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is - specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is not - specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is not a i specific choice? i'm concerned for. patients for whom this is not a real choice. _ patients for whom this is not a real choice, because they don't get the social— choice, because they don't get the social care — choice, because they don't get the social care or the specialist palliative care that they need and i'm palliative care that they need and i'm really— palliative care that they need and i'm really concerned, for example, in the _ i'm really concerned, for example, in the bill— i'm really concerned, for example, in the bill there is a two week reflection. come and two weeks is really— reflection. come and two weeks is really not — reflection. come and two weeks is really not enough to make that kind of decision— really not enough to make that kind of decision and it's not enough time, — of decision and it's not enough time, for— of decision and it's not enough time, for example, to get access to psychological services in scotland. it's psychological services in scotland. it's not _ psychological services in scotland. it's not enough time, for example, for an— it's not enough time, for example, for an antidepressant to work. and we would. — for an antidepressant to work. and we would, as palliative care doctors. _ we would, as palliative care doctors, explore these kinds of explanations if someone is feeling suicidal— explanations if someone is feeling suicidal or— explanations if someone is feeling suicidal or they want to take their own life. — suicidal or they want to take their own life, and that we can often be a helpful way— own life, and that we can often be a helpful way of thinking through what people are anxious about or stressed by. palliative care is more than 'ust by. palliative care is more than just dealing with physical symptoms, it's about _ just dealing with physical symptoms, it's about looking after families and also — it's about looking after families and also about psychological support become _ and also about psychological support become a _ and also about psychological support become a huge psychological support for people in a state of terminal illness — for people in a state of terminal illness i— for people in a state of terminal illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow— illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow or— illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow or small group. for example actually— a narrow or small group. for example actually a _ a narrow or small group. for example actually a quarter of all those admitted to scottish hospitals are in the _ admitted to scottish hospitals are in the last year of life. so it makes _ in the last year of life. so it makes a _ in the last year of life. so it makes a huge number of people. | makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are — makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are out _ makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are out of _ makes a huge number of people. i —n afraid we are out of time, but thank you very much for coming on the programme and giving your perspective, allie thompson, thank you as well, thanks to you both. the ukrainian president has held a phone call with the republican speaker of the us house of representatives, mikejohnson, urging him to hold a vote approving further military aid for ukraine. volodymyr zelensky said he'd told him about russia stepping up what he called its "aerial terror". it's being reported that as the weather improves, russia will mount a big new offensive on ukraine, as it did this time last year, but with ukraine's ability to hold it off looking less sure than it did then. mr zelensky has spoken exclusively about the upcoming issues to reporter charlie d'agata from our us partner cbs. they sat down close to the russian border where the president was visiting troops. the situation is we're stabilised on the east. it's better than it was two months ago, two or three months when we had a big deficit of artillery and munition, different kinds of weapons. but he says they can't hold that line much longer without more military aid, and now. so you're expecting a counteroffensive in may, june from the russians. i think so. what sort of weapons do you need to stop that counteroffensive? translation: number one is anti-air defence and artillery shells. _ that's what we need. wejoin the president on an inspection of vast new underground fortifications. while lawmakers struggle over the decision to continue supporting ukraine, do you think russians are taking advantage? translation: russia is using that 100%. i not 50-50, 100%. we have almost no artillery remaining. zelensky says he's aware the war in gaza has diverted american thank you so much for coming on the programme. i hope you heard some of zelensky�*s comments there, what did you make of them? zelensky's comments there, what did you make of them?— zelensky's comments there, what did you make of them? whom to say what the commander _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief knows, i you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief knows, but i the commander in chief knows, but essentially what most of us are thinking is the russians are going to take advantage of this window, the time lag between october were was identified that ukraine needed more shells, more air defence and ideally more rockets and also aircraft, and the time that is going to come which looks like mike johnson is not going to be able to hold a vote until at least april nine and then it will take another three weeks to get through before 60 billion in us can start to move. when it does come through, they will move stuff quite quickly and they'll haveit move stuff quite quickly and they'll have it ready to go. it's still very very late and that's the way. i know i'm askin: very late and that's the way. i know l'm asking you _ very late and that's the way. i know l'm asking you to — very late and that's the way. i know i'm asking you to speculate - very late and that's the way. i know i'm asking you to speculate a i i'm asking you to speculate a little here, but what would be the delay in your eyes? you spent the delay and potentially the vote and approval, but then mobilising and getting all that aid down to those front lines, what time scales are we talking about? it what time scales are we talking about? , , ., . , about? it depends on what they need, of course. about? it depends on what they need, of course- if — about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's _ about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's air _ about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's air defence _ of course. if it's air defence missiles, people are forearmed and forewarned, getting stuff ready to go essentially so it can happen very fast after an order is given and the funding has come across, that's great. you'll get some of those things in. other things, great. you'll get some of those things in. otherthings, it'll take more to get across. he you can move some artillery shells by air, you can move a lot of those as well by ship if you can because it's obviously very heavy. it depends on what it is and what is needed and where. the us with its strategic airlift can move the most stuff in the world rapidly, but the amount of the world rapidly, but the amount of the ukrainians will need to defend this potential offensive off in the short term is probably going to be quite a lot. for example the russians are firing on a decent enough day if they are doing something about 10,000 shells a day or even more if they are doing something big at the moment. and ukrainians are firing two, three, 4000 and they are dwindling as it is. so there a massive over match, actually artillery shells are producing at the moment, they'll get about 3 million this year, quarter of a million or so a month and the us and europe combined is only about 1.2 million so there's a big shortfall and the checks are working really hard to bite off the open market, artillery shells, they're going to be in around a million which would be great and i could come mainstream in potentially april, too. this is becoming very, very finite. april, too. this is becoming very, very finite-— april, too. this is becoming very, ve finite. . , . ., very finite. thank you very much for cominu very finite. thank you very much for coming on — very finite. thank you very much for coming on a — very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking _ very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking to _ very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking to us, - coming on a talking to us, appreciate it. i'll be back injust appreciate it. i'll be back injust a couple minutes, i'm lewis on jones, this is bbc news. hello there. good evening. plenty of wet and very windy weather around today with some squally showers pushing northwards, longer spells of rain, some of the rain falling as snow to low levels and settling for a while in northern ireland. all of the showers just swirling around this deep area of low pressure out towards the west and it'll stay windy, really rather showery overnight tonight. so still some wet weather to come, but we'll see the skies clear for a while across parts of wales and the midlands, maybe through the small hours and some clear skies developing across northern ireland as well. the ground pretty saturated here. expect to see some mist and fog develop and we'll see some icy stretches, perhaps with temperatures dipping really quite close to freezing. it's mildest underneath the cloud in the south east of england. as we head through a good friday then there will be some rain, i think to start the day off in northwest scotland and the western isles that will clear away and plenty of sunshine to start the day, but not too long before we see the showers get going again. some of the showers heavy and thundery. there could be some hail in the mix, but generally fewer showers, more sunshine than we've seen today. still windy for england and wales, but it's warmer 11 to 14 degrees but it's warmer — 11 to 14 degrees celsius with the south—westerly wind pushing us that milder feeling air. now the low pushes further westwards as we head through saturday. so the winds will lighten. there's another low, though, just spinning off the near continent that could bring increased amounts of cloud across parts of east anglia and southeast england. there's a lot of dry weather around on saturday, plenty of sunshine, too. but again, watch out for some showers there. most likely to develop further north and west you are temperatures will be above the seasonal average, 11 to 15 degrees celsius and it's more of the same again on sunday. i think we should see a largely dry start to the day with plenty of sunshine around, not too long before there'll be some showers and again, the most likely out towards the west, perhaps pushing into northern england, but perhaps largely dry across scotland and towards the south and the east. again, temperatures above the seasonal average. now, as we go into bank holiday monday, low pressure remains out towards the west of the uk, but there's another low just spinning off the near continent once again that could bring some more significant rainfall and then that is likely to track further northward. so some more reliable rainfall i think for bank holiday monday. and as we head into next week, it turns a bit cooler again and stays unsettled. bye— bye. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. the bbc uncovers a report showing the post office spent £100 million of public money fighting postmasters in court despite knowing their defence was untrue. let's head to the bbc sport centre. on thursday, the quarterfinals in barcelona and to the last six year running after singh of norway 3—1 on the night in spain and 5—2 on aggregate. just over and we just approach the half—hour mark and currently 1—0 with the only goal of the game and that means the french capital now

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crashes off a bridge. also on the programme, scotland could become the first part of the uk to legalise assisted dying. we'll look at how different countries around the world approach these sensitive decisions. and we'll have the latest from the world of artificial intelligence. ai therapy, genital scans and perfect pints all explained in al decoded. we'll we�* ll start we'll start this hour with this breaking news out of south africa. 45 people at least are believed to have been killed after a bus crashed in the south african province of limpopo. these are the latest pictures we have here. just on in the ravine there the remains of the crash as the bus seemingly crashed through the barriers there and came off that road come off the bridge. into that ravine below. at least 45 people killed, another person seriously injured, bus travelling from botswana, it's belief. it exploded on the floor there of the ravine. let's speak now to heidi, ourjournalist based in our journalist based in johannesburg. ourjournalist based in johannesburg. thank you for coming on the programme, just talk us through what we know about what happened here? is through what we know about what happened here?— through what we know about what happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost — happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control _ happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but _ happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but what - happened here? is unclear as to how the bus lost control but what we - the bus lost control but what we know as the bus was travelling from botswana to an area in limpopo known as maria. it's a church gathering that happens every single year and people from all over come through to this particular gathering. now, it seems as though from what we saw on the scene is that the bus might�*ve lost control, it hit the barrier and thenit lost control, it hit the barrier and then it seems as though it crashed, hung onto the barrier and then crashed into the ravine as you mentioned. we know that 45 people have lost their lives, there were 46 people on board. there has been one survivor, an eight—year—old girl, one female was airlifted to hospital but unfortunately she did not make it. ithink but unfortunately she did not make it. i think what's so tragic and horrific having been on the scene is the fact that paramedics told us that the bus caught fire and people inside the bus were trapped, they could not get out and they were asking and begging and crying and pleading to be let out of the bus, but unfortunately it was too difficult for paramedics and officials to try and save anyone else from that bus. just officials to try and save anyone else from that bus.— else from that bus. just really dreadful details _ else from that bus. just really dreadful details there, - else from that bus. just really dreadful details there, heidi. | else from that bus. just really i dreadful details there, heidi. we are seeing these pictures from the scene that you referenced and provided there. it looks quite a big drop between the road and —— that bridge there —— and the ground. we don't know at the moment what led up to this or what could have happened. exactly, and we know that drop from the top of the bridge where it seems as though the bus had the impact onto the barriers and then crashed, it's a 50 metre drop so it's a very high length, or height rather. obviously the impact we are seeing as the bus hit the barrier, crashed and then hit in that ravine over there. this is what sparked the fire that happened. and we've also been told by paramedics that a lot of the passengers that were on board were mothers with children, which probably speaks to the eight—year—old who managed to survive, we don't know how she survived. but also seems to have further exacerbated the fire is that a lot of them were carrying gas cylinders because where they were heading to they were going to spend the whole weekend there and they were going to be using these gas cylinders for cooking purposes and this is probably what exacerbated the fire. it's still not clear, of course the department for transport is investigating but is going to be very difficult for the department to do so because of the fire, and it's going to be very difficult to really figure out what exactly happened and the fact that there is only one survivor and she's eight years old. heidi, thank you so much for talking us through that, we appreciate your time and your reporting here. and if we get any more details about what happened or what because that crash there, we will cross straight back to the bridge. now we'll head to the us. sam bankman—fried. he was responsible for one of the biggest financial frauds in us history. now he has been sentenced to 25 years for fraud and money laundering. the 32—year—old became a billionaire through his cryptocurrency exchange platform ftx, but the company collapsed in 2022 and bankman—fried was found guilty of stealing billions of dollars from his customers. sentencing him today, a judge in new york said he had shown no remorse. let's speak to our new york business correspondent erin delmore, who's outside the courthouse. —— michelle fleury. -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild da , the -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day. the judge _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day. the judge had _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to _ -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to decide - -- michelle fleury. it's been a wild day, the judge had to decide a - day, thejudge had to decide a couple of things. taking into account the sentencing, he was considering the age, the losses involved, the impact on the victims, but also the message of deterrent, and ultimately he settled on 25 years for sam bank been freed, turning them to prison for that amount of time. it was less than lawyers who had been prosecuting the case had asked for, they wanted 40-50 case had asked for, they wanted 40—50 years, by contrast lawyers for mr bingaman freed said he should get less than seven years, and judge lewis kaplan decided splitting the difference in a little with the to go. as you mentioned, he is only 32 years old so if he serves the full time he will come out sometime in his late 50s. and that was a factor, thejudge his late 50s. and that was a factor, the judge clearly thought that although mr bingaman freed has autism, as he said in court, sometimes can be a bit socially awkward, judge kaplan clearly felt that this was a serious crime that he wanted to send that message of deterrent. he was also not convinced that mr brinkman freed had showed an remorse. —— bankman—fried. lawyers and professors have been telling me it seems to be the sort of right amount, it felt right to them and would be hard to challenge. ilude’iiii would be hard to challenge. we'll aet a little would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in the _ would be hard to challenge. we'll get a little more in the sentencing in a moment. let's get a little more background. sam bankman—fried used his own image to attract investors, and at one point had an estimated fortune of $26 billion. ftx allowed people to trade their normal money for digital currencies like bitcoin, but money stolen from ftx was used to fund an investment fund, alameda research, as well as to buy luxury property in the bahamas and donate to politicians who might support cryptocurrency—friendly laws. both companies went bust in 2022, and bankman—fried was arrested. our cyber correspondentjoe tidy was the last person to interview bankman—fried before he was arrested in december 2022. here's some of that interview. were you incompetent or were you fraudulent? i didn't knowingly commit fraud. i don't think i committed fraud — i didn't want any of this to happen. i was certainly not nearly as competent as i thought i was. it was...a really bad mistake and it hurt a lot of people and, like, that's on me one way or another. let's speak to neama rahmani, who's a formerfederal prosecutor and the president of west coast trial lawyers. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the programme-— thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the rouramme. . ., . programme. thanks for having me. what was your _ programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction _ programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to - programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to that - programme. thanks for having me. what was your reaction to that 25 l what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence? what was your reaction to that 25 yearsentence? i’m what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence?— what was your reaction to that 25 year sentence? i'm not surprised. judue year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan _ year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is — year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is an _ year sentence? i'm not surprised. judge kaplan is an old-school - year sentence? i'm not surprised. i judge kaplan is an old-schooljudge judge kaplan is an old—schooljudge and he was going to stick within those advisory guideline range. he was going to impose nowhere near the 100 year sentence that us probation was recommending, or even the 40—50 years. 25 was about right, i predicted somewhere in the 20—30 range. let's not forget, people that murdered people here in the united states usually get a sentence of 25 to life. , . , states usually get a sentence of 25 tolife. _, , , to life. usually political systems around the _ to life. usually political systems around the world _ to life. usually political systems around the world have - to life. usually political systems around the world have different| around the world have different standards, what is the expectation, we'll get onto appeals in a moment, but what is the expectation taking that sentence as is, how much of that sentence as is, how much of that will be actually served behind bars? ~ ., , . bars? well, it does matter. different — bars? well, it does matter. different states _ bars? well, it does matter. different states have - bars? well, it does matter. i different states have different percentages, but underfederal which percentages, but under federal which applies percentages, but underfederal which applies here, inmates have to serve 85% of their sentences. there are some programmes that might reduce that a bit more by like one or two years, but sam bankman—fried is going to have to spend about 20 years in federal prison. let’s going to have to spend about 20 years in federal prison.— years in federal prison. let's get to appeals _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and. _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and, what _ years in federal prison. let's get to appeals and, what happens i years in federal prison. let's get i to appeals and, what happens with years in federal prison. let's get - to appeals and, what happens with an appeal? we to appeals and, what happens with an a- eal? ~ ~' ., to appeals and, what happens with an a- eal? ~ ~ ., . to appeals and, what happens with an aueal? ~ ., . . ,, . , appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable. _ appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he _ appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has— appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired - appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired a - appeal? we know an appeal is inevitable, he has hired a very appeal? we know an appeal is - inevitable, he has hired a very good appellate lawyer, in his statement today, it was a little bit meandering but importantly he said sorry, but he did not accept any responsibility for his actions or express remorse for the victims. that's something judge kaplan seized upon and the reason he didn't do so is going to take his chances on appeal. is is going to take his chances on a- eal. , is going to take his chances on a . eal. , ., ., is going to take his chances on a- eal. , . , ., is going to take his chances on aueal. , . , ., ~ ., ., appeal. is it too early to know on what potential— appeal. is it too early to know on what potential grounds _ appeal. is it too early to know on what potential grounds there - appeal. is it too early to know on i what potential grounds there could be for appeal here? i what potential grounds there could be for appeal here?— be for appeal here? i think it is too early. _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early. but _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the _ be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance - be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance of. be for appeal here? i think it is too early, but the chance of a l too early, but the chance of a successful appeal is slim. were talking about someone who was involved in one of the biggest and most brazen frauds in american history, and this really wasn't an accounting irregularity or inflating the stock price of a company. here's someone that stole money and used it for lavish personal expenses, boats, residences in the bahamas and so forth. i don't think an appellate court in the second circuit is going to look too kindly on that. thank ou so to look too kindly on that. thank you so much _ to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for— to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming - to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming on - to look too kindly on that. thank you so much for coming on the l you so much for coming on the programme, thank you. fit you so much for coming on the programme, thank you. of course, thanks for having _ programme, thank you. of course, thanks for having me. _ around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you're live with bbc news. scotland could become the first uk nation to legalise assisted dying if a bill introduced at holyrood is approved. under the proposals, a patient could only request medical assistance to end their life if they had an "advanced, progressive terminal" illness which has been diagnosed independently by two doctors. two doctors would also need to establish someone is mentally competent. the patient must be aged 16 or over and a resident of scotland for at least 12 months. they must also administer the life?ending medication themselves. these were the scenes outside the parliament building. it's a deeply polarising issue. supporters say it would ease suffering, but opponents are concerned that some terminally ill people may feel under pressure to end their lives. there is polling on this issue. let's take a look. joining me now is dr gillian wright. she is a former palliative care doctor and works for our duty of care, who are a group of health care professionals opposing the intentional killing of patients by assisted suicide or euthanasia. also ally thomson. she is the director of communications and scotland at dignity in dying. dignity in dying are a national campaign and membership organisation who believe in the option of assisted dying for terminally ill, mentally competent adults. thank you both for coming on the programme. thank you both for coming on the programme-— thank you both for coming on the rorramme. . ~ ,, y . programme. thank you very much. allie, can programme. thank you very much. allie. can i — programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start _ programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start with _ programme. thank you very much. allie, can i start with you. - allie, can i start with you. presumed support for this move in scotland? we presumed support for this move in scotland? ~ , . ,, , , scotland? we fully back this bill in scotland, lump-sum _ scotland? we fully back this bill in scotland, lump-sum polling - scotland? we fully back this bill in - scotland, lump-sum polling revealing scotland, lump—sum polling revealing that actually every single constituency in scotland is an unshakeable majority and us support of assisted dying. these are tightly drawn, measured proposals that put compassion in place and safety, and at its core as you said, it would be for advanced terminal illness only. there's a number of safeguards in place in the bill, and this would give dying people what they really need which is excellent palliative care, of course, but also the choice of an assisted death.— of an assisted death. jillian, if i can brina of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you — of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in _ of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on _ of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on that. - of an assisted death. jillian, if i can bring you in on that. he - can bring you in on that. he heard there the emphasis there on palliative care, on the safety, on safeguards. what's your response to this bill? . ~ , ., safeguards. what's your response to this bill? . ~ ., , safeguards. what's your response to thisbill? . ~ ., , this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are — this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are hugely _ this bill? thank you. doctors across scotland are hugely concerned - this bill? thank you. doctors across| scotland are hugely concerned about the introduction of assisted suicide _ the introduction of assisted suicide. particularly forthose the introduction of assisted suicide. particularly for those who might— suicide. particularly for those who might be — suicide. particularly for those who might be more vulnerable and who might— might be more vulnerable and who might feel pressurised into taking their own — might feel pressurised into taking their own life. we are really concerned that this is legislation which _ concerned that this is legislation which is — concerned that this is legislation which is harmful, particularly for those _ which is harmful, particularly for those who— which is harmful, particularly for those who might have the least choice — those who might have the least choice. and there are patients who we've _ choice. and there are patients who we've seen— choice. and there are patients who we've seen in otherjurisdictions such— we've seen in otherjurisdictions such as — we've seen in otherjurisdictions such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden— such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden as — such as oregon, who cite feeling a burden as being one of the main reasons— burden as being one of the main reasons that they have chosen assisted — reasons that they have chosen assisted suicide. and we would argue that people can't make a true choice unless— that people can't make a true choice unless they— that people can't make a true choice unless they have access to real care _ unless they have access to real care and — unless they have access to real care. and they told us one in four patients— care. and they told us one in four patients across the uk don't get the palliative care that they need, and so we _ palliative care that they need, and so we are — palliative care that they need, and so we are really concerned that the scottish _ so we are really concerned that the scottish government would provide assisted _ scottish government would provide assisted suicide on the nhs, but there _ assisted suicide on the nhs, but there would not be the provision of palliative care for all, particularly out of hours and we often _ particularly out of hours and we often see — particularly out of hours and we often see that it... dr, particularly out of hours and we often see that it. . ._ often see that it... dr, 'ust to “um in often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on i often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on that, * often see that it... dr, 'ust to jump in on that, those _ often see that it... dr, just to jump in on that, those two i often see that it... dr, just to - jump in on that, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. you could've palliative care, you could increase funding for that as well as the option. increase funding for that as well as the 0 tion. , , . , the option. yes, but what gets really interesting _ the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to _ the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to note - the option. yes, but what gets really interesting to note what | the option. yes, but what gets l really interesting to note what in scotland — really interesting to note what in scotland when they were polled, 95% of them, _ scotland when they were polled, 95% of them, they felt that it would be, they would — of them, they felt that it would be, they would not prescribe lethal medication to their patients and that they— medication to their patients and that they are concerned particularly about _ that they are concerned particularly about toss — that they are concerned particularly about loss of trust and the doctor, they are _ about loss of trust and the doctor, they are concerned about what happens — they are concerned about what happens when it goes wrong and what happens _ happens when it goes wrong and what happens when it goes wrong and what happens when there is a prolonged death— happens when there is a prolonged death and — happens when there is a prolonged death and what happens when, for example. — death and what happens when, for example, there are complications. quite _ example, there are complications. quite a _ example, there are complications. quite a few— example, there are complications. quite a few issues there, won't have time to go through all of them, but allie can i bring you in on this issue of people feeling a burden and people in oregon and the us potentially citing that reason, what do you make of that?— do you make of that? well, i think what i do you make of that? well, i think what i would _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that _ do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that is - do you make of that? well, i think what i would say to that is in - what i would say to that is in oregon, asjillian knows, the actual main driver of people seeking access in assisted death is they could no longer take pleasure living anonymously in the way they chose or they were suffering in some form of real pain. this bill will apply to only a very limited number of people, very restrictive criteria. you have to be like i mentioned before, it in an advanced terminal illness. once it comes to that point, what you're looking at is not choosing between living and dying, that choice has been taken away from you already. it's between choosing a prolonged and painful death or being able to say i'll go this far and no else, i've done enough. we speak to people every day who tell me they would like to make that choice. jillian, what is your response that specific choice? i’m jillian, what is your response that specific choice?— jillian, what is your response that specific choice? i'm concerned for atients specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this _ specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is - specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is not - specific choice? i'm concerned for patients for whom this is not a i specific choice? i'm concerned for. patients for whom this is not a real choice. _ patients for whom this is not a real choice, because they don't get the social— choice, because they don't get the social care — choice, because they don't get the social care or the specialist palliative care that they need and i'm palliative care that they need and i'm really— palliative care that they need and i'm really concerned, for example, in the _ i'm really concerned, for example, in the bill— i'm really concerned, for example, in the bill there is a two week reflection. come and two weeks is really— reflection. come and two weeks is really not — reflection. come and two weeks is really not enough to make that kind of decision— really not enough to make that kind of decision and it's not enough time, — of decision and it's not enough time, for— of decision and it's not enough time, for example, to get access to psychological services in scotland. it's psychological services in scotland. it's not _ psychological services in scotland. it's not enough time, for example, for an— it's not enough time, for example, for an antidepressant to work. and we would. — for an antidepressant to work. and we would, as palliative care doctors. _ we would, as palliative care doctors, explore these kinds of explanations if someone is feeling suicidal— explanations if someone is feeling suicidal or— explanations if someone is feeling suicidal or they want to take their own life. — suicidal or they want to take their own life, and that we can often be a helpful way— own life, and that we can often be a helpful way of thinking through what people are anxious about or stressed by. palliative care is more than 'ust by. palliative care is more than just dealing with physical symptoms, it's about _ just dealing with physical symptoms, it's about looking after families and also — it's about looking after families and also about psychological support become _ and also about psychological support become a _ and also about psychological support become a huge psychological support for people in a state of terminal illness — for people in a state of terminal illness i— for people in a state of terminal illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow— illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow or— illness. i guess it wouldn'tjust be a narrow or small group. for example actually— a narrow or small group. for example actually a _ a narrow or small group. for example actually a quarter of all those admitted to scottish hospitals are in the _ admitted to scottish hospitals are in the last year of life. so it makes _ in the last year of life. so it makes a _ in the last year of life. so it makes a huge number of people. | makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are — makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are out _ makes a huge number of people. i am afraid we are out of _ makes a huge number of people. i —n afraid we are out of time, but thank you very much for coming on the programme and giving your perspective, allie thompson, thank you as well, thanks to you both. the ukrainian president has held a phone call with the republican speaker of the us house of representatives, mikejohnson, urging him to hold a vote approving further military aid for ukraine. volodymyr zelensky said he'd told him about russia stepping up what he called its "aerial terror". it's being reported that as the weather improves, russia will mount a big new offensive on ukraine, as it did this time last year, but with ukraine's ability to hold it off looking less sure than it did then. mr zelensky has spoken exclusively about the upcoming issues to reporter charlie d'agata from our us partner cbs. they sat down close to the russian border where the president was visiting troops. the situation is we're stabilised on the east. it's better than it was two months ago, two or three months when we had a big deficit of artillery and munition, different kinds of weapons. but he says they can't hold that line much longer without more military aid, and now. so you're expecting a counteroffensive in may, june from the russians. i think so. what sort of weapons do you need to stop that counteroffensive? translation: number one is anti-air defence and artillery shells. _ that's what we need. wejoin the president on an inspection of vast new underground fortifications. while lawmakers struggle over the decision to continue supporting ukraine, do you think russians are taking advantage? translation: russia is using that 100%. i not 50-50, 100%. we have almost no artillery remaining. zelensky says he's aware the war in gaza has diverted american thank you so much for coming on the programme. i hope you heard some of zelensky�*s comments there, what did you make of them? zelensky's comments there, what did you make of them?— zelensky's comments there, what did you make of them? whom to say what the commander _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief _ you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief knows, i you make of them? whom to say what the commander in chief knows, but i the commander in chief knows, but essentially what most of us are thinking is the russians are going to take advantage of this window, the time lag between october were was identified that ukraine needed more shells, more air defence and ideally more rockets and also aircraft, and the time that is going to come which looks like mike johnson is not going to be able to hold a vote until at least april nine and then it will take another three weeks to get through before 60 billion in us can start to move. when it does come through, they will move stuff quite quickly and they'll haveit move stuff quite quickly and they'll have it ready to go. it's still very very late and that's the way. i know i'm askin: very late and that's the way. i know l'm asking you _ very late and that's the way. i know l'm asking you to — very late and that's the way. i know i'm asking you to speculate - very late and that's the way. i know i'm asking you to speculate a i i'm asking you to speculate a little here, but what would be the delay in your eyes? you spent the delay and potentially the vote and approval, but then mobilising and getting all that aid down to those front lines, what time scales are we talking about? it what time scales are we talking about? , , ., . , about? it depends on what they need, of course. about? it depends on what they need, of course- if — about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's _ about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's air _ about? it depends on what they need, of course. if it's air defence _ of course. if it's air defence missiles, people are forearmed and forewarned, getting stuff ready to go essentially so it can happen very fast after an order is given and the funding has come across, that's great. you'll get some of those things in. other things, great. you'll get some of those things in. otherthings, it'll take more to get across. he you can move some artillery shells by air, you can move a lot of those as well by ship if you can because it's obviously very heavy. it depends on what it is and what is needed and where. the us with its strategic airlift can move the most stuff in the world rapidly, but the amount of the world rapidly, but the amount of the ukrainians will need to defend this potential offensive off in the short term is probably going to be quite a lot. for example the russians are firing on a decent enough day if they are doing something about 10,000 shells a day or even more if they are doing something big at the moment. and ukrainians are firing two, three, 4000 and they are dwindling as it is. so there a massive over match, actually artillery shells are producing at the moment, they'll get about 3 million this year, quarter of a million or so a month and the us and europe combined is only about 1.2 million so there's a big shortfall and the checks are working really hard to bite off the open market, artillery shells, they're going to be in around a million which would be great and i could come mainstream in potentially april, too. this is becoming very, very finite. april, too. this is becoming very, very finite-— april, too. this is becoming very, ve finite. . , . ., very finite. thank you very much for cominu very finite. thank you very much for coming on — very finite. thank you very much for coming on a — very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking _ very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking to _ very finite. thank you very much for coming on a talking to us, - coming on a talking to us, appreciate it. i'll be back injust appreciate it. i'll be back injust a couple minutes, i'm lewis on jones, this is bbc news. hello there. good evening. plenty of wet and very windy weather around today with some squally showers pushing northwards, longer spells of rain, some of the rain falling as snow to low levels and settling for a while in northern ireland. all of the showers just swirling around this deep area of low pressure out towards the west and it'll stay windy, really rather showery overnight tonight. so still some wet weather to come, but we'll see the skies clear for a while across parts of wales and the midlands, maybe through the small hours and some clear skies developing across northern ireland as well. the ground pretty saturated here. expect to see some mist and fog develop and we'll see some icy stretches, perhaps with temperatures dipping really quite close to freezing. it's mildest underneath the cloud in the south east of england. as we head through a good friday then there will be some rain, i think to start the day off in northwest scotland and the western isles that will clear away and plenty of sunshine to start the day, but not too long before we see the showers get going again. some of the showers heavy and thundery. there could be some hail in the mix, but generally fewer showers, more sunshine than we've seen today. still windy for england and wales, but it's warmer 11 to 14 degrees but it's warmer — 11 to 14 degrees celsius with the south—westerly wind pushing us that milder feeling air. now the low pushes further westwards as we head through saturday. so the winds will lighten. there's another low, though, just spinning off the near continent that could bring increased amounts of cloud across parts of east anglia and southeast england. there's a lot of dry weather around on saturday, plenty of sunshine, too. but again, watch out for some showers there. most likely to develop further north and west you are temperatures will be above the seasonal average, 11 to 15 degrees celsius and it's more of the same again on sunday. i think we should see a largely dry start to the day with plenty of sunshine around, not too long before there'll be some showers and again, the most likely out towards the west, perhaps pushing into northern england, but perhaps largely dry across scotland and towards the south and the east. again, temperatures above the seasonal average. now, as we go into bank holiday monday, low pressure remains out towards the west of the uk, but there's another low just spinning off the near continent once again that could bring some more significant rainfall and then that is likely to track further northward. so some more reliable rainfall i think for bank holiday monday. and as we head into next week, it turns a bit cooler again and stays unsettled. bye— bye. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. you're watching the context on bbc news. the bbc uncovers a report showing the post office spent £100 million of public money fighting postmasters in court despite knowing their defence was untrue. let's head to the bbc sport centre. on thursday, the quarterfinals in barcelona and to the last six year running after singh of norway 3—1 on the night in spain and 5—2 on aggregate. just over and we just approach the half—hour mark and currently 1—0 with the only goal of the game and that means the french capital now

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