nuts and bolts to power the ai revolution. i catch up with the boss of cisco systems on its latest moves in the world of machine learning. wherever you are joining machine learning. wherever you arejoining me from around the world once again a big hello and a warm welcome to the show. obesity is defined as abnormal or excessive fat accumulation in the body presents a risk to health. more and more of us across the world are falling into that category. the good news is that the percentage of the world �*s population who underweight is declining that obesity is now the most common form of malnutrition in most countries. they can be too much as well as too little food and it comes with a hefty pricetag. the causes of weight gain a complex and it is important that when we talk about the economic impact of the disease that the cost is not attributable to individual behaviour. but they are part of a much larger environment of influences that that expert call obese agenda. these are factors surrounding the lives of people that tend to cause obesity like easy access to energy dense cheap food and reduced physical activity. widely recognised as a driving force behind the escalating obesity crisis. speaking to lawmakers in the uk about diet and obesity, one expert describes the struggle facing people who are trying to eat more healthily. comparing it to giving up smoking before modern restrictions came into place. if we had this committee meeting in the 70s, we would have all been sitting here smoking. many of us would. if anyone of us was trying to stop smoking because it was widely known that cigarettes did cause harm it the us economy's productivity. those drugs are only part of the storing. to get an idea of the storing. to get an idea of the scope of the issues i caught up with the boss of the world obesity federation. thank you forjoining us. obesity is a major health issue is not new. do you think things are getting better or worse? unfortunately, they are getting worse. the continued lack of a comprehensive approach to obesity has meant that many useful efforts has not come together to impact the overall obesity levels. globally, we are seeing about 8 billion living with obesity and rates going by 50%, up to 2035. it is a complex issue. if going by 50%, up to 2035. it is a complex issue.— going by 50%, up to 2035. it is a complex issue. if you were to simplify. _ a complex issue. if you were to simplify. where _ a complex issue. if you were to simplify, where do _ a complex issue. if you were to simplify, where do you - a complex issue. if you were to simplify, where do you think i simplify, where do you think the biggest problem lies? is it bad diet or a of exercise? it is funny, when people ask me those questions is a genetic or biological i say yes. challenges is that it is all of those things. a comprehensive approach means we address diet and physical activity that make inactivity and the genetic drivers of obesity and the ways that obesity has not been sufficiently included in the health system or in primary care. health system or in primary care. ., health system or in primary care. ., . ., , ., care. so how much of the blame must we as _ care. so how much of the blame must we as individuals - care. so how much of the blame must we as individuals accept i must we as individuals accept that it must we as individuals accept thatitis must we as individuals accept that it is up to us to make smarter decisions with our food choices and how active we are? i think it is important. incredibly important for individuals to have better options for food choices and thatis options for food choices and that is the environment in which we live. many people live in places, have heard of a food desert, places where there are limited options. it is easy to say it is the fault of the individual but they are operating in an environment where fast food is cheaper and more readily available. how much of the _ more readily available. how much of the blame - more readily available. how much of the blame should l more readily available. how much of the blame should rest with the food industry of today for offering cheap energy dense food that is so easy to get and cheap to purchase? fine food that is so easy to get and cheap to purchase?— food that is so easy to get and cheap to purchase? one of those thins cheap to purchase? one of those things where _ cheap to purchase? one of those things where yesterday's - things where yesterday's solutions of cheaper more accessible food to solve hunger has to turned into today's problem. it has not been helpful. some actors in the food industry focusing on short—term profit and delivering value to shareholders which is what they are designed to do. not addressing the longer term health consequences. in fact, the cost of society. absolutely thatis the cost of society. absolutely that is a factor but in our desire to have one single villain in a simple narrative will overlook a lot of the other drivers that are contributing to this including all the ways that physical activity has been curtailed. we have been looking at the economic impact of obesity and its impact on productivity, the trend towards higher unemployment and absenteeism. what do you think is the appropriate response to that and whether in fact we need to start making accommodations at work for people who are obese. an important part of the solution and there are a number of countries that are working towards helping more employers responsive concerns around overweight and obesity last year data was published saying that more than 51% of the worlds population just over a decade from now would be overweight or obese. employers can play a role in using person first language that identifies the person with obesity rather than the obese person to really humanise and create respect around the individual who is experiencing this. one of the most concerning trends, of course, is the fact that school—aged children and adolescents are experiencing obesity rates and more than contributing over the last few years. these workers of tomorrow. what does that say about society �*s management of this crisis? childhood obesity is much more likely to become an adult with obesity and to have all the attendant health issues. and economic impacts of that in terms of what does it mean, the early stages. we see hypertension, we see the bad cholesterol and hypoglycaemia at every —— ever earlier ages that are associated with obesity. that are associated with obesity-— obesity. historically we thought _ obesity. historically we thought of _ obesity. historically we thought of obesity - obesity. historically we thought of obesity as i obesity. historically we - thought of obesity as affecting developed and rich countries. does the data, the lightest data still reflect that?- data still reflect that? that has been — data still reflect that? that has been one _ data still reflect that? that has been one of— data still reflect that? that has been one of the - data still reflect that? that has been one of the most i has been one of the most powerful and shocking, in a way, changes. more people die from issues associated with overweight and obesity than underweight around the world. the top countries in terms of numbers of people living with obesity, in terms of percentage of people with obesity and in terms of growth of obesity in the population level are almost overwhelmingly and entirely from lower and middle income countries. from lower and middle income countries-_ from lower and middle income countries. ., ., countries. what do you make of these new _ countries. what do you make of these new weight _ countries. what do you make of these new weight loss - countries. what do you make of these new weight loss drugs? l countries. what do you make of| these new weight loss drugs? is it possible to medicate ourselves out of this crisis? you cannot treat your way out of most chronic diseases and obesity is a chronic disease like many others. but the treatment is an important part. the new therapy that is available in the join other viable therapies that have been in place for a long time r... it sounds cliched to say but they are really having a dramatic, more dramatic than anyone expected, effects on people �*s lives and appear to be associated now with reducing cardiovascular disease, for example. so this is a success story. example. so this is a success sto . ., ~ example. so this is a success sto . . ~' , ., example. so this is a success sto . ., ~ ., ., , story. thank you for “oining us on talking * story. thank you forjoining us on talking business. - story. thank you forjoining us on talking business. now- story. thank you forjoining us on talking business. now we | on talking business. now we have a grasp of the size of the problem, to find out more about what can be done to tackle the obesity crisis i have been speaking to the chief medical officer of the world �*s leading weight loss firm weight watchers. doctoramy weight loss firm weight watchers. doctor amy meister, the chief medical officer at weight watchers, thank you for joining us. obesity is, as we know, a societal problem but i wonder where you see the solution. is it personal responsibility or must they be more of a top—down approach with employers in the food industry and governments doing more? ., , ., industry and governments doing more? . , . . industry and governments doing more? ., , ., ., , ., more? that is a great question and there _ more? that is a great question and there are _ more? that is a great question and there are so _ more? that is a great question and there are so many - more? that is a great question and there are so many things l and there are so many things that contribute to obesity and what is considered by many to be an epidemic or a global pandemic. first it takes commitment and awareness. one of my favourite things to do is, overtime, ilove of my favourite things to do is, over time, i love looking back and even if you just watch television, all black and white film and you see what people used to weed or even take a couple coffee for instance. you see a tiny cup of coffee and not these beautiful creations that some of the large well—known coffee companies have that are so tasty and loaded with really unhealthy calories or empty calories as we like to say. so it is part of the environment that we are in. we know that there are problems with health equity in different types of access to resources and, additionally it is understanding what source of truth as well. it is hard to know today what to eat, what not to weed, particularly in a new digital age that we are in. people turn to sources that i did not have growing up like the internet, tiktok, u—tube, all those types of things to understand what they should or should not consume and on top of that there are new treatments where the actual education that have been on the market for years, over 15 years which i used to treat people with other conditions like type ii diabetes are now being used for weight loss. fantastic results however very costly. so we're talking a lot about the economic implications of the obesity academic. what do you see is the cost of not doing the right thing? the financial economic cost?— the right thing? the financial economic cost? the economic cost can be — economic cost? the economic cost can be bucketed - economic cost? the economic cost can be bucketed into - economic cost? the economic. cost can be bucketed into many different places. one of the biggest concerns is health outcomes. what will we see if we do not make an investment now? we will absolutely see this continue to spiral out of control and an increase in over 200 chronic conditions that are anchored to living in an unhealthy way. and those are things like type ii diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, strokes and even more cancers. so if we do not change now two, three, four, five years from now and even further down the road we are going to have another crisis.— down the road we are going to have another crisis. we've been discussing _ have another crisis. we've been discussing this _ have another crisis. we've been discussing this term _ have another crisis. we've been discussing this term obesity - discussing this term obesity and egg meaning the lifestyle environment surrounding people that encourages weight gain. how does weight watchers try to counter this?— counter this? what we do is try to simplify _ counter this? what we do is try to simplify where _ counter this? what we do is try to simplify where you - counter this? what we do is try to simplify where you are - counter this? what we do is try to simplify where you are out. | to simplify where you are out. nobody wants to have a rigid lifestyle that is doom and gloom that means that we have to eatjust gloom that means that we have to eat just letters and gloom that means that we have to eatjust letters and charis —— 7 to eatjust letters and charis —— ? and things that do not sound joyful. as humans we want to be able to choose different things but how we know moderation and that is where our science backed system helps to take the maths out of it. the other thing that i think is important we talk about when it comes to obesity, it is not just about food. many people live with multiple chronic conditions in some way related someone not but a lot of medications that are prescribed and some common medications like many of the sleep aids that you can purchase over the counter actually drive weight gain. so another area counter actually drive weight gain. so anotherarea i counter actually drive weight gain. so another area i urge people to discuss with the dock is to take a look at medicines that you take for other medical conditions that may require treatment, still, but perhaps there is another agent that would not drive weight gain. let's get onto the big talking point of the moment. those weight loss drugs, formerly used for treating things at diabetes. how much of a game changer are they for tackling obesity? changer are they for tackling obesi ? ., , ., ., obesity? the ones that we are talkin: obesity? the ones that we are talking about _ obesity? the ones that we are talking about are _ obesity? the ones that we are talking about are definitely - talking about are definitely game changes. they certainly have the lowest side—effect —— side effect profile and are well—tolerated. but they are not for everybody. it is important to know that these drugs in themselves are just a band—aid if you do not have the other treatment modalities president which include a healthy lifestyle, getting good sleep, having the right resilience. all those things are so important to a comprehensive way plan. weight watchers has _ comprehensive way plan. weight watchers has bought _ comprehensive way plan. weight watchers has bought a _ comprehensive way plan. weight watchers has bought a company| watchers has bought a company that provides weight loss drugs. is that because that is the way you see the wind blowing right now? the reason we have both _ blowing right now? the reason we have both is _ blowing right now? the reason we have both is that _ blowing right now? the reason we have both is that we - we have both is that we recognise and understand that it is not a one size fits all plan for everybody. everybody �*s biology is different and there are absolutely some people whose bodies chemistry needs much more than behavioural lifestyle support. they need medication to help them be successful. 50 they need medication to help them be successful.— they need medication to help them be successful. so then you sa that them be successful. so then you say that there — them be successful. so then you say that there are _ them be successful. so then you say that there are definitely - say that there are definitely some people who need these kind of drugs but, equally, you have clients who you also do not take them, you don't need them. absolutely. the other thing i would say and i would take that one step further. at different points in your life depending on what medication you have what stresses you have and your environment, as things change your weight health needed is also change. so we want to be a part of a life, notjust you are dealing with now. so maybe in your 20s you do not need some type of aggressive weight therapy with medication. but, particularly in women when you hit perimenopause, the average weight gain is 5—15 pounder year. so it even becomes not about weight loss but about how to not gain weight. your body is programmed to gain. at different times in life you need different tactics. irate different times in life you need different tactics. we have to talk about _ need different tactics. we have to talk about oprah _ need different tactics. we have to talk about oprah winfrey - to talk about oprah winfrey because she recently stepped down from the board of weight watchers and donated her shareholding because of a potential conflict of interest because she has been speaking a lot about her use of those weight loss drugs. how much of an impact hazard had on weight watchers? �* ., , ., watchers? although there is one sto that watchers? although there is one story that we _ watchers? although there is one story that we see _ watchers? although there is one story that we see out _ watchers? although there is one story that we see out there - watchers? although there is one story that we see out there in . story that we see out there in the news about what is impaired happening and its impacts, the reality is we are excited because she is evangelising and supporting us at her most authentic self she can tell her story not feeling any type of influence and really wants people to understand in the most genuine way that weight health is an issue when we need to address it and this is one tactic, yes, which is the drugs that have been heavily focused on but if you listen you will hear that she talks a lot about the care and that is really where we are moving and she supports us and is in lockstep with our message which is to get the weight healthcare and there always to do it than just diet alone. in there always to do it than 'ust diet amel— there always to do it than 'ust olel alo_ there always to do it than 'ust diet alone. , ., , ., ., diet alone. in summary, what do ou think diet alone. in summary, what do you think it _ diet alone. in summary, what do you think it will— diet alone. in summary, what do you think it will take _ diet alone. in summary, what do you think it will take for - diet alone. in summary, what do you think it will take for us - you think it will take for us to turn the corner, turn the page on this obesity epidemic? it takes people committed at the top from employers, from government officials to really, everybody leaning on doing their part. everybody must do their part. everybody must do their part. everybody must do their part and do what is right to make this a healthier society at large. and unless we are willing to do that it will continue to be a challenge. thank you for talking to us on talking business. once the world �*s most valuable company, the it networking tax giant cisco systems is one of the biggest providers of the nuts and bolts behind our modern online lives. a vast infrastructure needed to keep us all connected it is only set to grow with the advent of the aia revolution and they are looking to cash in with a major new acquisitionjust looking to cash in with a major new acquisition just being given the red light —— greenlight. i've been speaking to the big boss of cisco systems. the chair and chief executive, thank you for joining us on talking business. yours is one of the biggest names in computing so i have to ask, what does the ai future look like to you? in ten years time, for example. how do you think our working lives will be different? ., ., think our working lives will be different? ., ,, , ., ., think our working lives will be different? ., ,, ., ., different? thank you for having me on. different? thank you for having me on- it _ different? thank you for having me on- it is _ different? thank you for having me on. it is a _ different? thank you for having me on. it is a pleasure - different? thank you for having me on. it is a pleasure to - different? thank you for having me on. it is a pleasure to be i me on. it is a pleasure to be here. ai will fundamentally change everything. we spoke about the fact that most of these major technology trends in silicon valley, we talk about them for a decade before the impact is felt. this one was different. it will change everything about how we deliver education and change how people work. when you are in your work environment you will have a virtual assistant that is going to be making a recommendation to be making a recommendation to you all day about things that can help you be more productive. when there is a problem you will have an assistant that will tell you three or four potential things that could be causing the problem and you will interact with that and will help you get to a root cause of what is going on. i think it will change how we are entertained. it will change industries at manufacturing with al robotics and those are just some of the things we know today. the thing we do not understand is what has not been invented yet and i think that will be fascinating over the next 5—10 years. think that will be fascinating over the next 5-10 years. what role do you _ over the next 5-10 years. what role do you see _ over the next 5-10 years. what role do you see cisco _ over the next 5-10 years. what role do you see cisco playing . role do you see cisco playing in delivering that al future? there are three ways we anticipate. first we will build the hardware that will help run the hardware that will help run the ai revolution. secondly we are going to leverage artificial intelligence on massive data sets to help customers deal with the increasing cyber security threats that are out there and we will help our customers deploy new applications that help them increase their customer engagements, told employees be more productive and that sort of nature. we are su oer and that sort of nature. we are super excited _ and that sort of nature. we are super excited by _ and that sort of nature. we are super excited by the _ and that sort of nature. we are super excited by the potential. super excited by the potential for al to boost productivity, as you say. but we know it will take a huge amount of additional computing power. is there a risk that this extra bandwidth consumes more energy at a time when we are trying to, of course, curtail our energy consumption? there is discussion _ energy consumption? there is discussion right _ energy consumption? there is discussion right now— energy consumption? there is discussion right now around i energy consumption? there is l discussion right now around the risk associated with energy consumption in artificial intelligence that is why companies like cisco and others are working build the next generation hardware that consumes less energy but provides increased performance and we have been doing that for and we have been doing that for a long time. i think that will be key to us being able to realise the potential of ai without draining the energy sources around the world. i know the big news at the moment for cisco is the acquisition of spun, the biggest ever acquisition that you have made. can you explain to us why that is the right move? in can you explain to us why that is the right move?— is the right move? in its simplest _ is the right move? in its simplest form _ is the right move? in its simplest form would i is the right move? in its i simplest form would allow us is the right move? in its - simplest form would allow us to do is provide real—time insight to all our customers so that they can detect cyber security threats in real—time. as we know, bad actors around the world, as they get their hands on al and are able to actually be more effective with their cyber attack strategies, as an industry we have to enable our customers to be able to respond faster and this acquisition was at the heart of allowing us to do that for our customers. does that suggest — do that for our customers. does that suggest that _ do that for our customers. does that suggest that in _ do that for our customers. does that suggest that in this - do that for our customers. does that suggest that in this ai i that suggest that in this ai future hacking risk will become an even greater threat? they have been claiming for many years now. have been claiming for many years now-— have been claiming for many earsnow. ., ~ ., , ., years now. what ai does for bad actors who _ years now. what ai does for bad actors who are _ years now. what ai does for bad actors who are watching - years now. what ai does for bad actors who are watching these . actors who are watching these cyber attacks is it allows them to operate in even greater stealth mode and they are today and allows them to look more real to you as a user. the e—mail coming to you from me is not from me or my voice speaking to you is not me. it is our responsibility to help our customers and help society understand how to recognise these risks, block the risks where we can and then remediate those that they do not block and do that in real—time. we love to do so much better five years from now than we are today. years from now than we are toda . ., , ., ., today. the other question about al 's regulation. _ today. the other question about al 's regulation. government i ai �*s regulation. government around the world are thinking about how to regulate and many do not want to repeat the mistakes of the social media revolution. what kind of regulations do you think we need? ., ' need? there are different approaches _ need? there are different approaches being - need? there are different approaches being taken i need? there are different| approaches being taken to need? there are different i approaches being taken to ai regulation around the world under real key is whether you start with a tighter set of regulations or a looser framework to estimate the key is that government is going to have to adapt as we learn more. this move so quickly that we are learning every day and the critical issue i think is being ready to adapt if you have overregulated you may have to pull back and if you have under regulated you may have to move fast on increasing regulation and government will try to balance policies that do not stifle innovation in the space and do not stay for the benefit of realisation but also require and drive real responsible use of this technology. fin and drive real responsible use of this technology.— of this technology. on politics which perhaps _ of this technology. on politics which perhaps is _ of this technology. on politics which perhaps is something i of this technology. on politics | which perhaps is something an area you do not wish to stray, it is a big yearfor area you do not wish to stray, it is a big year for elections around the world. here in the uk uncertainly in america. our businesses over there concerned at the outcome of the us presidential race? i at the outcome of the us presidential race?- at the outcome of the us presidential race? i think that the ceo community _ presidential race? i think that the ceo community in - presidential race? i think that the ceo community in the i presidential race? i think that i the ceo community in the united states is, first of all, we have become very accustomed to running our companies in times of various crises and so we're sort of used to this uncertainty and i think as we look to the election everyone is obviously paying a great deal of attention to it but we prepare ourselves to work with whatever administration is actually in the white house. it is incumbent upon the business community in the united states to support the administration, to support the administration, to work with either administration and we can always find things that we can align on, whether it turns out to be biden or trump. i think thatis to be biden or trump. i think that is what we are focused on right now. that is what we are focused on right now-— that is what we are focused on right now. whoever wins, what do ou right now. whoever wins, what do you want — right now. whoever wins, what do you want them _ right now. whoever wins, what do you want them to _ right now. whoever wins, what do you want them to do? i right now. whoever wins, what do you want them to do? on i right now. whoever wins, what i do you want them to do? on the big questions of our time, one that occurs to me is china. at the time of china us relations at a low ebb do you think they need to become friendlier? the current need to become friendlier? tue: current administration need to become friendlier? tta: current administration has need to become friendlier? "tt2 current administration has done a good job of turning things down and making where we can open lines of communication with china even though it is clear we're going compete. i think it is important as the two largest economies in the world, the world needs us to at least communicate and operate in a way that is not destructive to the global economy and i think that is the key to the success of the future administration. thank ou for future administration. thank you forjoining _ future administration. thank you forjoining us _ future administration. thank you forjoining us on - future administration. thank you forjoining us on talking | you forjoining us on talking business. that is it for this week. i hope you enjoyed the show don't forget you can keep up show don't forget you can keep up with the latest on a global economy on the bbc website or smartphone app. you can also follow me on social media. thank you for watching and we will see you soon. goodbye. hello there. well, it's certainly been a lively start to the weekend weatherwise. loads of showers around on saturday, some of them with hail and thunder, some of them with mammatus clouds — always a sign of a good storm. now, the showers that went through south parts of greater london, around kent, they really dumped the temperatures. look at that — ten degrees at midday, just two degrees celsius a couple of hours later in the afternoon. that would have felt really cold, especially with those gusty winds. now, over the next few hours, many of the showers will tend to become confined to more northeastern areas of the uk should become drier over the next few hours in the west. temperatures as we head into the first part of sunday morning, quite chilly around 3 to six degrees celsius. now, sunday will continue to be dominated weatherwise by this area of low pressure — it's the same one that we had on saturday, but it's starting to pull away into the near continent, but still influencing our weather. certainly there'll be lots of showers across northern areas of scotland and a few affecting the east coast of scotland running down east and coastal counties of england as well. some of the showers for these areas will continue to be quite heavy with some hail, whereas across western areas of the uk many areas should have a dry day with some bright or sunny spells. temperatures for most about 10 to 12 degrees — that's average for the time of year. northern scotland, about six to eight. that's a little on the cool side. then into monday, we get another area of low pressure forming and moving in off the atlantic. this is going to be bringing further outbreaks of rain on monday to northern ireland, wales and western areas of england. probably a dry and bright day for eastern areas of england. the rain starts pushing northwards across scotland and starts to move into the chilly air that we have here. temperaturesjust six in aberdeen. so through monday night we might actually start to see some of that rain turn to snow. it is going to be quite high up in the high hills of scotland, probably above 300 metres elevation or so, but that could continue to be a risk into tuesday. so you might see a little bit of snow on some of the very high—ish scottish routes in the north. otherwise at lower elevations it's just outbreaks of rain, sleet and a bit of hail that you'll see mixed in. a cold day on tuesday — temperatures around nine or ten for england and wales, just five there in aberdeen. so overall, we're looking at a very unsettled week ahead, a cold start to the week, yes, but it does tend to turn milder as the week goes by. bye for now. good morning. hello and welcome to breakfast with luxmy gopal and ben thompson. our headlines today: a day of national mourning in russia after friday's attack on a concert hall that killed more than 130 people. the islamic state group has claimed responsibility. the prince and princess of wales say they're "enormously touched and extremely moved" 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