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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The 20240704

Welcome to the programme. We will start with russia. President ial Election Results give six more years of Vladimir Putin and there has been plenty of reaction. In the us, they say. They said the vote took place amid systemic internal repression. Canada criticised the process was flawed and undemocratic. In the indian Prime Minister offered warm congratulations. We will look at where russia goes from here. First here is Stephen Rosenberg in russia. Vladimir putin after the landslide came the love. Vladimir putin portrayed by the kremlin as a national hero. At a concert marking ten years since russia annexed crimea. Long live russia, he cried. Cue the National Anthem and some kremlin choreography to make it look as if putin is russia and russia is putin. Earlier we saw the crowds pouring towards red square. Thousands of russians had been given free tickets for the putin event. After all, a president who claims to have won 87 of the vote needs a decent audience. Western leaders have dismissed russias president ial vote as neitherfree norfair, a stage managed election. But the kremlin couldnt care less what the west thinks. It paints a picture of a president who enjoys the overwhelming support of his people. Down at the Russian Election commission, theyd counted all the votes and they presented all their figures. So its six more years of president putin. But what does that mean for russia and for the world . It doesnt mean anything good for russia, for ukraine, for the world, because putin will continue this permanent war. Putin will continue to suppress Civil Society inside his country. And in that sense, he becomes a full blooded autocrat dictator. And yet the Direction Of Travel for russia under Vladimir Putin is already clear. More confrontation abroad and repression at home. Few here seem to believe that this election will bring a significant change. If its the same president , katya says that i dont think anything will be different. In a country thats been ruled by the same man for a quarter of a century, russians are starting to forget what change looks like. Steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. Lets speak to owen matthews, historian, writer, author of the overreach the inside story of putins war against ukraine. Thank you very much for coming in the programme. Thank you very much for coming in the programme thank you very much for coming in the programme. Where do you think this election the programme. Where do you think this Election Result the programme. Where do you think this Election Result leaves the programme. Where do you think this Election Result leaves russia this Election Result leaves russia now . Its a sad benchmark. It shows that Vladimir Putin doesnt care about pretending to be a democrat. Its easy to forget how different he was five years ago, even just five years ago. There was a time when he was very proud of hosting the gs years ago. There was a time when he was very proud of hosting the gb in saint petersburg, there was a time when you want to engage in International Order to make friends with europe, to Butter Up American president s. There was a moment when he did care about is democratic image and now what we see in what we have seen since 2020 and especially since he invaded ukraine in 2022 is that no longer cares what the west thinks and Steve Rosenberg said at russia that is frankly autocratic and its a system that has turned into the simple worship of power, its a one man state now. Is into the simple worship of power, its a oneman state now. Into the simple worship of power, its a oneman state now. Is there a oint ou its a oneman state now. Is there a point you can its a oneman state now. Is there a point you can pinpoint . Its a oneman state now. Is there a point you can pinpoint . Is its a oneman state now. Is there a point you can pinpoint . Is it its a oneman state now. Is there a point you can pinpoint . Is it a point you can pinpoint . Is it a direct consequence of the war . What has changed . What changed inside Vladimir Putins mind about not caring . I Vladimir Putins mind about not carina . ~ , caring . I think he believed the west betra ed caring . I think he believed the west betrayed him caring . I think he believed the west betrayed him. There caring . I think he believed the west betrayed him. There are caring . I think he believed the west betrayed him. There are many betrayed him. There are many Inflection Points betrayed him. There are many Inflection Points but betrayed him. There are many Inflection Points but i betrayed him. There are many Inflection Points but i supposej betrayed him. There are many Inflection Points but i suppose its Inflection Points but i suppose its academic interest for historians but i think the final came in the August Of 2021 there were mass protests against rigged elections in belarus and that was the moment, in the eyes of putin, yet another western backed attempt to intervene and produce a Regime Change and he decided at that point of the west was completely incorrigible, the west was determined to do the same for him as it had attempted to do to lukashenko in belarus, has six fully done in 2014 in kyiv and he thought that was a western orchestrated coup and he came to the conclusion that the, there was no further possibility to discuss with the west and he could or what he liked and what he wanted to do was launch a full scale offensive of ukraine which happened a year and half later. Lets offensive of ukraine which happened a year and half later. A year and half later. Lets focus on that. What a year and half later. Lets focus on that. What do a year and half later. Lets focus on that. What do you a year and half later. Lets focus on that. What do you think a year and half later. Lets focus on that. What do you think are l on that. What do you think are fundamental ambitions now . He has another six years in power, potentially beyond that as well. What you think you will be aiming for . � ,. , what you think you will be aiming for . � ,. ,. , for . Its really interesting to look, for . Its really interesting to look. Not for . Its really interesting to look, not of for . Its really interesting to look, not of the for . Its really interesting to look, not of the content for . Its really interesting to look, not of the content necessarily of his very long and boring State Of The Union speech which she gave a few weeks ago but how much time putin devotes to the war, 14 minutes and the rest of the two hour speech is all about his agenda. And thats important because from a western perspective think its important for us and significant and it appalls on a daily basis and thats his actions in ukraine. Putin himself, for his domestic purposes, the war is not a central part of his domestic agenda. Its almost a footnote, although he is spending 40 of his budget on war expenses, that is not the central thing for him. His speech was full of incredibly boring workaday things that any politician would Promise Health spending and so on and development. And i think thats a really important indication that his main ambition isjust really important indication that his main ambition is just to present his administration as stable, Business As Usual and i think in his mind, to as usual and i think in his mind, to a significant degree he has basically won the war in ukraine. It was back in September 2022 that he celebrated the annexation of those new Ukrainian Territories and from now on its a footnote in his agenda of making russia great again. Owen, very interesting of making russia great again. Owen, very interesting perspective of making russia great again. Owen, very interesting perspective and very interesting perspective and thank you for coming in the programme. One extra note that in the last couple of hours eu Foreign Ministers have agreed on a new package of sanctions against those perceived as complicit in the death of the russian Opposition Leader and their support for the idea of using frozen russian assets to support ukraine. I frozen russian assets to support ukraine. , , frozen russian assets to support ukraine. ,. Ukraine. I have seen there is a stron ukraine. I have seen there is a strong sunport. Ukraine. I have seen there is a strong support, there ukraine. I have seen there is a strong support, there are ukraine. I have seen there is a | strong support, there are some member strong support, there are some Member States would have more details Member States would have more details but there is a strong swoon details but there is a strong support to take the revenues of the windfall support to take the revenues of the windfall profits. And to use it as a support windfall profits. And to use it as a support ukraine. How . Military with The European Peace Facility and to support The European Peace Facility and to support the development of Ukrainian Defence support the development of Ukrainian Defence in support the development of Ukrainian Defence in industry. Haiti. Trying to get some functioning government. The us says a transitional body to lead haiti is getting closer. Take a listen. I understand that haitian stakeholders are very close to finalising membership and remain in active discussions with caricom leaders as it relates to the make up of a transitional president ial council. I expect them to have an update, hopefully as soon as today and will refer you to them in caricom. Lets ta ke lets take a look at the situation on the ground. It has been another deadly day with 14 bodies die on the suburbs of port au prince. Gangs have taken control of most of the capital. And forced the Prime Minister to resign. Un says siutaiton remains volatile warning that increasing numbers of children in haiti are going hungry. Lets speak to ambassador daniel foote, former us Special Envoy to haiti. Thank you very much for coming in the programme. Thank you very much for coming in the programme thank you very much for coming in the programme. Lets start with the olitics, the programme. Lets start with the politics. This the programme. Lets start with the politics, this attempt the programme. Lets start with the politics, this attempt to the programme. Lets start with the politics, this attempt to try the programme. Lets start with the politics, this attempt to try to the programme. Lets start with the politics, this attempt to try to get i politics, this attempt to try to get some sort of transitional body. Same some sort of transitional body. Some organisation some sort of transitional body. Some organisation no some sort of transitional body. Some Organisation Up and some sort of transitional body. Some Organisation Up and running some sort of transitional body. Some Organisation Up and running the country again. How optimistic are you that that can happen anytime soon . �. ,. ,. You that that can happen anytime soon . �. ,. Soon . Im not optimistic at all because this soon . Im not optimistic at all because this is soon . Im not optimistic at all because this is another soon . Im not optimistic at all. Because this is another example soon . Im not optimistic at all because this is another example of what the us did 32 months ago when they named henry, the haitian people never accepted him. Is they named henry, the haitian people never accepted him. Never accepted him. Is the former Prime Minister. Never accepted him. Is the former Prime Minister. Yes, never accepted him. Is the former Prime Minister. Yes, who never accepted him. Is the former Prime Minister. Yes, who can never accepted him. Is the former Prime Minister. Yes, who can now | Prime Minister. Yes, who can now would not Prime Minister. Yes, who can now would not get Prime Minister. Yes, who can now would not get back Prime Minister. Yes, who can now would not get back into Prime Minister. Yes, who can now would not get back into haiti. Prime minister. Yes, who can now| would not get back into haiti. What the us and caricom have done is take a group of haitians and they have chosen them and they expect these haitians to choose functional government for the rest of the ii government for the rest of the 11 million haitians and is not going to work because once again, it is the International Community choosing a government for haiti, it has never worked in the past and is not going to work now and were going to fall back into this to 15 year cycle. Is there any way of avoiding that . Do you think this Transitional Council will not work and what would you be trying . You be trying . Haitian national dialouue. You be trying . Haitian national dialogue. They you be trying . Haitian national dialogue. They need you be trying . Haitian national dialogue. They need to you be trying . Haitian national dialogue. They need to talk you be trying . Haitian national dialogue. They need to talk through this. This is a very complicated and i need to talk about reconciliation, justice for the gangs, how theyre going to move forward. Two years ago, shortly after i resigned we had been working on political accord with Civil Society and opposition Political Parties and they came to that accord broadly enough in my opinion two years ago. It has unravelled in the time since then, but i am highly confident that the haitians, if given space by the International Community, will quickly reach some sort of political accord, which. Accord, which. Does that include the can accord, which. Does that include the gang leaders accord, which. Does that include the gang leaders and accord, which. Does that include the gang leaders and the accord, which. Does that include the gang leaders and the gangs i accord, which. Does that include l the gang leaders and the gangs are in control . How does that work . Thats not up to us, is it . Who is an up to . The haitians. And the haitians are only the ones who can tell us what kind ofjustice they want the gang leaders. I guarantee you the haitians do not want criminals running haiti and the political future of these guys is not existent. Political future of these guys is not existent. ,. ,. ,. Not existent. There is no political future for them not existent. There is no political future for them and not existent. There is no political future for them and yet not existent. There is no political future for them and yet there future for them and yet there doesnt seem to be there is a power vacuum the moment in terms of being in control of them. Its really difficult to see a way forward. Well, the us is going to try the same thing that we have tried. This will be the sixth time since 1994 that we have done this and each time it drives haiti further into catastrophe and violence and we need to try Something Different this time and that is haitian self determination. And that is haitian selfdetermination. ~. Selfdetermination. We will leave it there. Selfdetermination. We will leave it there thank selfdetermination. We will leave it there. Thank you selfdetermination. We will leave it there. Thank you very selfdetermination. We will leave it there. Thank you very much selfdetermination. We will leave it there. Thank you very much for there. Thank you very much for coming in the programme. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. This us lawyers for donald trump say he cant find the multi Million Dollar bond he needs to appeal against a judgment in his civil fraud case in new york. The former us president has to find 464 million in cash, or the New York State authorities can start seizing his properties. The lawyers say theyve spent countless hours trying to negotiate with 30 Bond Companies, but with no success. Lets go to new york and speak to correpsondent nada tawfik. Isa is a big sum of money. Talk us through what happening. Thats exactly right through what happening. 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