government more likely shortly after christmas, _ government more likely shortly after christmas, so we will either have stop start — christmas, so we will either have stop start extremism policy and political — stop start extremism policy and political debate about the left and right, _ political debate about the left and right, or— political debate about the left and right, or a — political debate about the left and right, or a policy political debate about the left and right, ora policy on political debate about the left and right, or a policy on hateful extremism we can all agree on and then the _ extremism we can all agree on and then the party political debate but we have _ then the party political debate but we have to have a government to position— we have to have a government to position that gets above the election debate and across the next parliament otherwise it's not worth having _ parliament otherwise it's not worth having at _ parliament otherwise it's not worth having at all. why parliament otherwise it's not worth having at all-— having at all. why do you think the government _ having at all. why do you think the government is _ having at all. why do you think the government is doing _ having at all. why do you think the government is doing this _ having at all. why do you think the government is doing this in - having at all. why do you think the government is doing this in an - government is doing this in an election year when, look, government is doing this in an election yearwhen, look, it's government is doing this in an election year when, look, it's of course a serious issue but there are so many other issues the government could be focusing on in the run—up to an election? i could be focusing on in the run-up to an election?— to an election? i think this whole issue of revisiting _ to an election? i think this whole issue of revisiting the _ to an election? i think this whole issue of revisiting the whole - to an election? i think this wholei issue of revisiting the whole area of extremism is a crucial and urgent part of government policy, the really the first people had heard about it was rishi sunak�*s downing street speech a few weeks ago where he talked about the importance, about it being the light of george galloway being elected as an mp and the importance of revisiting the extremism definition, particularly also since october the 7th where we have seen really quite polarised views on the streets of london and the concerns around that. i think what he has actually done this got himself into a bit of a problem because it's all very well standing on the steps of downing street making bold statements about extremism but what we are having this week is the kind of detail and the flesh on the bones from michael gove and when you start trying to redraw definitions, you can get yourself into huge problems. we had today from miriam cates, a big figure on the right of the tory party, raising concerns about free speech, and we had concerns from the left also about if this definition is too vague, who will it catch? all sorts of problems come out when you get into the detail. that sorts of problems come out when you get into the detail.— get into the detail. that side of it is a real problem _ get into the detail. that side of it is a real problem for— get into the detail. that side of it is a real problem for the - get into the detail. that side of it is a real problem for the tory - get into the detail. that side of it i is a real problem for the tory party because _ is a real problem for the tory party because there _ is a real problem for the tory party because there are _ is a real problem for the tory party because there are so _ is a real problem for the tory party because there are so many- is a real problem for the tory party because there are so many people | because there are so many people within— because there are so many people within the — because there are so many people within the party— because there are so many people within the party who _ because there are so many people within the party who want - because there are so many people within the party who want to - because there are so many people within the party who want to be i within the party who want to be outspoken _ within the party who want to be outspoken on _ within the party who want to be outspoken on very _ within the party who want to be| outspoken on very controversial issues — outspoken on very controversial issues and _ outspoken on very controversial issues and if— outspoken on very controversial issues. and if you _ outspoken on very controversial issues. and if you are _ outspoken on very controversial issues. and if you are going - outspoken on very controversial issues. and if you are going to. issues. and if you are going to define — issues. and if you are going to define it— issues. and if you are going to define it as _ issues. and if you are going to define it as intolerance, - issues. and if you are going to define it as intolerance, it- issues. and if you are going toi define it as intolerance, it does have _ define it as intolerance, it does have the — define it as intolerance, it does have the danger— define it as intolerance, it does have the danger of— define it as intolerance, it does have the danger of shutting - define it as intolerance, it does. have the danger of shutting down debate _ have the danger of shutting down debate over— have the danger of shutting down debate over a _ have the danger of shutting down debate over a lot _ have the danger of shutting down debate over a lot of— have the danger of shutting down debate over a lot of controversial| debate over a lot of controversial issues _ debate over a lot of controversial issues so — debate over a lot of controversial issues so i — debate over a lot of controversial issues so i think— debate over a lot of controversial issues so i think they _ debate over a lot of controversial issues so i think they have - debate over a lot of controversial issues so i think they have got i issues so i think they have got themselves— issues so i think they have got themselves in— issues so i think they have got themselves in a _ issues so i think they have got themselves in a bit _ issues so i think they have got themselves in a bit of- issues so i think they have got themselves in a bit of a - issues so i think they have got themselves in a bit of a messi issues so i think they have got . themselves in a bit of a mess on that and — themselves in a bit of a mess on that and also _ themselves in a bit of a mess on that and also you _ themselves in a bit of a mess on that and also you have _ themselves in a bit of a mess on that and also you have to - themselves in a bit of a mess on| that and also you have to slightly suspect _ that and also you have to slightly suspect their _ that and also you have to slightly suspect their motives _ that and also you have to slightly suspect their motives are - suspect their motives are pa rticuia riy _ suspect their motives are particularly seeing - suspect their motives are particularly seeing the i suspect their motives are i particularly seeing the mess suspect their motives are - particularly seeing the mess labour -ot particularly seeing the mess labour got into— particularly seeing the mess labour got into in— particularly seeing the mess labour got into in bradford, _ particularly seeing the mess labour got into in bradford, whether- particularly seeing the mess labour got into in bradford, whether they. got into in bradford, whether they can actually — got into in bradford, whether they can actually build _ got into in bradford, whether they can actually build the _ got into in bradford, whether they. can actually build the embarrassment for the _ can actually build the embarrassment for the labour— can actually build the embarrassment for the labour party— can actually build the embarrassment for the labour party around _ can actually build the embarrassment for the labour party around how - can actually build the embarrassment for the labour party around how its . for the labour party around how its relations _ for the labour party around how its relations with — for the labour party around how its relations with muslim _ for the labour party around how its relations with muslim voters - for the labour party around how its relations with muslim voters may. relations with muslim voters may have _ relations with muslim voters may have gone — relations with muslim voters may have gone wrong _ relations with muslim voters may have gone wrong in— relations with muslim voters may have gone wrong in recent - relations with muslim voters mayi have gone wrong in recent weeks. there _ have gone wrong in recent weeks. there is— have gone wrong in recent weeks. there is a — have gone wrong in recent weeks. there is a little _ have gone wrong in recent weeks. there is a little suspicion- have gone wrong in recent weeks. there is a little suspicion there i there is a little suspicion there was some _ there is a little suspicion there was some politics _ there is a little suspicion there was some politics going - there is a little suspicion there was some politics going on- there is a little suspicion there was some politics going on asi there is a little suspicion there - was some politics going on as well. we hardly— was some politics going on as well. we hardly have _ was some politics going on as well. we hardly have any _ was some politics going on as well. we hardly have any time _ was some politics going on as well. we hardly have any time left - was some politics going on as well. we hardly have any time left but i i we hardly have any time left but i want to mention the government offering £3000 to failed asylum seekers to go volunteer audrey to rwanda that margaret voluntarily. what is this about? it rwanda that margaret voluntarily. what is this about?— what is this about? it 'ust seems like the latest h what is this about? it 'ust seems like the latest slightly- what is this about? itjust seems like the latest slightly half- what is this about? itjust seems like the latest slightly half baked i like the latest slightly half baked idea we're hearing coming out of the home office, againjust idea we're hearing coming out of the home office, again just trying to get this rwanda plan to work in some form or other. you get this rwanda plan to work in some form or other-— form or other. you have seconds to make a comment. _ form or other. you have seconds to make a comment. you _ form or other. you have seconds to make a comment. you can - form or other. you have seconds to make a comment. you can have - form or other. you have seconds to make a comment. you can have a l make a comment. you can have a voluntary return _ make a comment. you can have a voluntary return to _ make a comment. you can have a voluntary return to the _ make a comment. you can have a voluntary return to the scheme i make a comment. you can have a - voluntary return to the scheme where peopie _ voluntary return to the scheme where peopie go _ voluntary return to the scheme where people go some way off but to do it so that— people go some way off but to do it so that somebody goes to rwanda that a deterrent _ so that somebody goes to rwanda that a deterrent if you pay people to go, peopie _ a deterrent if you pay people to go, peopie witt— a deterrent if you pay people to go, people willjust laugh at it. it is people will 'ust laugh at it. it is aood people willjust laugh at it. it is good taxpayer _ people willjust laugh at it. it is good taxpayer money after bad, nothing — good taxpayer money after bad, nothing good _ good taxpayer money after bad, nothing good about _ good taxpayer money after bad, nothing good about the - good taxpayer money after bad, nothing good about the policy. good taxpayer money after bad, i nothing good about the policy but they can't — nothing good about the policy but they can't find _ nothing good about the policy but they can't find a _ nothing good about the policy but they can't find a way— nothing good about the policy but they can't find a way of— nothing good about the policy but they can't find a way of backing. nothing good about the policy but. they can't find a way of backing out of it poiiticaiiy _ they can't find a way of backing out of it politically.— of it politically. thank you for aaivin of it politically. thank you for giving pp _ of it politically. thank you for giving pp your— of it politically. thank you for giving up your time, - of it politically. thank you for - giving up your time, we'd appreciate it. that's all from us tonight. kirsty�*s here tomorrow. until then, goodnight. breaking news from around the world, 24 hours a day. this is bbc news. it's a bit, located in the us because while they have the desire for ensuring national security, it doesn't quite square with the us�*s first amendment protection of free speech. i first amendment protection of free seech. ~' , ., speech. i think the defenders of tiktok have _ speech. i think the defenders of tiktok have been _ speech. i think the defenders of tiktok have been trotting - speech. i think the defenders of tiktok have been trotting out i speech. i think the defenders of. tiktok have been trotting out this first amendment argument as a bit of a red herring. there is restrictions on american citizens to speak or access information for good reasons, but i struggle to believe the founding fathers imagined the first amendment to be so capacious to protect the right of a company subject to a totalitarian government in beijing to broadcast its content in beijing to broadcast its content in a algorithm no one understands to 170 million americans, over half the population, especially in an election year. especially with what we saw the russians do the united states in 2016. vivek chilukuri, director of the technology and national security programme at the security think tank cnas. thank you, steve. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the prime minister is resisting calls for the conservatives to return £10 million to a donor who's been accused of using racist language. rishi sunak said frank hester�*s alleged comments about the mp, diane abbott, were "racist" and "wrong", but told mps the businessman had apologised, and his remorse "should be accepted". a 34—year—old man has beenjailed for at least 21 years for the murder of a man in newtownabbey, northern ireland. two years ago, 54—year—old roy reynolds was beaten and stabbed to death. his remains were placed in a car boot and taken to a reservoir. ajudge described the murder as "merciless" and "brutal in the extreme". official figures show hundreds of refugees were left homeless in london, during a cold snap, after being evicted from home office accommodation. london councils said more than 300 refugees had to sleep rough injanuary, because their claims had been closed. the home office said it was working with authorities to improve the system. you're live with bbc news. despite its name, the demilitarised zone — the stretch of no—man's land between the two koreas — is one of the most heavily militarised areas in the world. when the korean peninsula was divided in 1953, two villages on either side of the dmz were allowed to remain. taesung — known as the freedom village — in the south, and kijong — known as the peace village — in the north. our correspondent in seouljean mackenzie went to taesung to meet the few people who still live there. we pass through checkpoint after checkpoint on ourjourney into the heart of the demilitarized zone, the strip of land separating north and south korea. freedom main, this is freedom six, over. but beyond the barbed wire sits a deceivingly peaceful village where a tiny community of south koreans live in the shadow of their enemy, north korea, closely guarded by an elite battalion of soldiers. like many of the villagers, mrs kim was born here before korea was even divided. she's now offered some serious perks to convince her to stay. she doesn't pay taxes or rent, and with extreme isolation comes an abundance of land to farm. "one day when i was gathering acorns, north korean soldiers came too close", mrs kim tells me. "i started screaming. "it was so scary". the village of taesung was established at the end of the korean war as a symbol of peace along with another village in the north, kijong, but no one is thought to live there now. given that the north koreans have decided to abandon this village and they don't have people living there, why do you keep people living here? right, many people believe that both taesung dong and kijong—dong exist in the hope of one day reunifying the korean peninsula. failing that, perhaps one day it could pave the way for the normalisation of relations between the two koreas. but this hope is dying. last month, the north declared unification impossible and branded south korea its number one enemy, putting the elderly residents on the front line of escalating tensions. we're taken out to the fields along the border. beyond the rusty sign is north korea. here, farmers must be escorted by soldiers with machine guns. we're so close to north korea now. the border isjust there behind us, and there is no fencing whatsoever. so there is nothing to physically stop the soldiers from walking into these fields and then on into the village. as darkness descends, the threat rises. soldiers go door to door, checking everyone's inside. this curfew is the most restrictive part of village life. the shin family with two small children are unusual. many young people have left the village, lured by the opportunities of modern day south korea, and its numbers are shrinking. do you think young people can be convinced to stay here? translation: i don't think it'll be easy. - it's asking a lot for people to live with the curfew, not being able to come and go as you want. there are now so few children that the village primary school buses its pupils in from outside the dmz. and as the dream of reunification fades, it's getting harder to convince people to live here, on the front—line of a conflict that might never be resolved. jean mackenzie, bbc news, in the demilitarised zone. let's turn to haiti now. the united states says it has deployed a team of elite us marines to protect its embassy in the haitian capital, port—au—prince. it said the marines' anti—terrorism security team would replace the current marine deployment. on monday, the prime minister, ariel henry, said he would resign once a transitional council was in place. gang leaders who control large parts of haiti had demanded his resignation for weeks, as violence across the country escalated. a us state department spokesman said it was up to the haitian people who they chose as their leader. presidentjoe biden and his predecessor donald trump have both passed the delegate thresholds to clinch their parties�* nominations for november's presidential election. the two 2020 contenders will provide the us with its first rematch in a presidential election for nearly 70 years. our north america editor sarah smith has the latest. voters in states from hawaii to mississippi sealed the deal for both presidential candidates, as they've now secured their parties�* nominations, setting up one of the longest campaigns in modern history. breaking overnight — it is official, president biden and donald trump set for a 2024 rematch. the stage is officially set, trump versus biden, as the president heads to battleground wisconsin today. we will be back here - on the dan o'donnell show. it's classical conservatism and contemporary style. i we are partisans for truth here! wisn listeners in wisconsin get a daily blast of non—stop high—energy right—wing rhetoric from a host who makes it very clear who he wants to win the white house. where trump is the sun— and everything else in the political solar system revolves around him in some way _ six months ago, he told me he had doubts about trump's electability. i we need to be focused primarilyi on who can win a general election. and that's not donald trump? i think he is going to have the most difficult path out of anyone, yes. i now he thinks circumstances have changed enough to allow a trump victory. you think he can win the presidential election? 0h, absolutely. despite all those republicans who say they will never vote for donald trump? yes — despite all of that, i mean, i honestly believe that _ trump is the prohibitive favourite right now. - in 2020, trump didn't lead in a single swing| state poll, not one. he is now leading in all of them. traditional republicans in this swing state should be delighted that their candidate is ahead, but there are quite a number of conservative voters hoping wisconsin backs...joe biden. and you won't be voting for donald trump. why not? why not — because the man is a menace. so what will you do with your vote? i will probably vote forjoe biden, actually. really, you would vote for a democrat? yeah — it will be really difficult, and we can debate policies and we can debate whether or not joe biden is a jerk or whether or not he's old. but in the end, what is the most important thing that we have to worry about in this country, and that's defending our constitution. this is one of the few states that will decide the election. wisconsin backed donald trump when he won in 2016 and joe biden in 2020. each time, it was less than 1% of the vote that made the difference. and this year's election will probably be won or lost by the very smallest of margins. sarah smith, bbc news, milwaukee, wisconsin. ajapanese rocket carrying a small government test satellite has exploded shortly after lift—off. this is the moment it happened. tokyo—based start—up company space one had hoped to become the first japanese private firm to succesfully put a satellite into orbit. the company said it is investigating what happened. that's all for now — stay with bbc news. residents of uchiyama have been warned not to approach or touch a missing cat that warned not to approach or touch a missing ca— missing cat that might have fallen into a vat of _ missing cat that might have fallen into a vat of toxic _ missing cat that might have fallen into a vat of toxic chemicals - missing cat that might have fallen | into a vat of toxic chemicals before wandering off. these are the only images of the cat in question as it disappears into the night. there have been no sightings of the animal since then. locals have been told to call the police and stay away if they come across the abnormal looking cat. smelly cat, smelly cat, it's not your fault. looking cat. smelly cat, smelly cat, it's not yourfault. that's it looking cat. smelly cat, smelly cat, it's not your fault. that's it for us on bbc news, bye for now. hello there. the rain has been pouring down on wednesday in snowdonia, in wales — there was about a third of a month's worth of rain injust 12 hours. things are not looking quite so dramatic over the next few days. there will be some further wet weather, rain or showers, and, for many parts of the country, it's going to be mild — particularly across england and wales, where we've seen the milder are coming from a long way south. things are a little bit chillier to the north, in northern scotland. in between, we've got the weather front — that's been bringing the rain, but that's moving northwards, taking wet weather into scotland and northern ireland. there's the wet weather that we've got in northern ireland and southern scotland — that moves its way northwards. for england and wales, there may be a bit more sunshine arriving in a southerly breeze before those showers push across from the west. but we're introducing some slightly drier airfrom france — hence the cloud breaking up more than it did on wednesday. and so, temperatures could reach 16, even 17 celsius. quite chilly underneath that rain, though, in the central belt of scotland. and that wet weather is still around as we head into thursday evening. that low pressure will slowly pull away — we've got another one waiting in the wings here as we head towards the weekend. but this is how friday looks — and we've got wet weather in scotland sinking into northern england, a bit of snow over the mountains. we see some heavier showers developing further south, particularly in the southeast of england, with the risk of thunder. drier, though, for northern ireland are becoming drier in scotland, but we're getting a northerly wind here — hence the temperatures will be dropping a bit through the day. we won't be quite as warm in the southeast, but still temperatures of 13—14 celsius. as that area of low pressure moves away, things will calm down just for a while, before the next weather system pushes in from the atlantic. but ahead of that, we'll have clear skies and light winds, so it's going to be cold. and there may be a frost around as well, particularly in scotland, with temperatures down as low as —3 or so. and there may be 1—2 mist and fog patches, too — but those will lift. we'll have some sunshine for a while, but we've got the weather system coming in from the atlantic — the cloud will tend to increase, rain for northern ireland coming into southwest scotland, wales, and the southwest of england. eastern areas still generally dry, but after that cold start, it'll only be around seven celsius in northeast scotland. most of the rain over the weekend will actually be on saturday night. and then, as we head into the early part of next week, it looks like it could be a bit drier, and it should stay on the mild side. this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines at the top of the hour as newsday continues, straight after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. diplomatic efforts to stop or at least pause the war in gaza are not working. every new day intensifies the suffering of the 100 or so israeli hostages being held in gaza and the more than 2 million palestinians, mostly displaced and desperately short of food, water and health care. a ship carrying aid has set out from cyprus. the americans are talking of building a landing pier. but if the gaza war is a test of international crisis management, then it hardly looks like a success. my guest is the palestinian ambassador at the united nations, riyad mansour. does diplomacy offer any glimmer of hope? ambassador riyad mansour at the un in new york, welcome to hardtalk.