the problem for the palace, and what does it tell us in the age of deep fakes? also on the programme, we are going to hear tonight from one of the msf doctors who is fresh back from gaza, on her experience of operating under bombardment. and the biggest nato exercises since the cold war. what are they rehearsing, and how do they keep it secret from the russians? good evening. the picture released by kensington palace on mothering sunday was supposed to put paid to some of the madder conspiracy theories about the princess of wales you would find if you spend any time on social media. instead it has only added to them. last night, five picture agencies refused to use the photo because it had been doctored. the daily mail today listed 16 issues with that picture, from the leaves on the trees, princess charlotte's hand not being in line with her sleeve to the pattern on prince george's jumper. this morning, the princess was forced to admit via x that she had indeed changed it. analysis suggests that the photograph was taken on friday. the first save was made at 9.51ipm on friday night, with the second at 9.39am on saturday morning. nick eardley at bbc verify has been investigating. a number of people have noticed some discrepancies in this image and once you see them, they are actually quite hard to ignore. have a look here at this bit, princess charlotte's sleeve. as you can see, these bits here don't match up. the same is true if you look at princess catherine's zip. part of it is here and part of it is here, it doesn't match up in this picture either. and then finally, this is a handy, princess catherine's hand going around the waist of one of the princess and it is blurry. there are a few other examples like this which are a bit less obvious. but it was people noticing these issues that led to a number of picture agencies removing this image last night, saying that it shouldn't be used. that is clearly not the normal. mick that is clearly not the normal. nick eardley there _ that is clearly not the normal. nick eardley there were _ that is clearly not the normal. nick eardley there were some of the analysis on the photograph. —— with some of the analysis. well, the princess of wales was seen today. she was photographed leaving windsor castle with her husband prince william as he travelled to westminster abbey for the commonwealth day service. the princess did not attend the service. but at least that photograph will dispel some of the more lurid conspiracy theories that are out there. joining me now is james middleton — a photoshop expert — and former bbc royal correspondentjennie bond. it is lovely to see you, jenny. i will start with you. is this a crisis? ., ~' will start with you. is this a crisis? ., ~ , ., , ., crisis? no, i think it is a storm in a teacun- — crisis? no, i think it is a storm in a teacun- as _ crisis? no, i think it is a storm in a teacup. as the _ crisis? no, i think it is a storm in a teacup. as the princess - crisis? no, i think it is a storm in a teacup. as the princess made l crisis? no, i think it is a storm ini a teacup. as the princess made a mistake? — a teacup. as the princess made a mistake? yes, she obviously has and she obviously is not very good at editing _ she obviously is not very good at editing and she shouldn't have tried out her_ editing and she shouldn't have tried out her skills on a picture that was clearly— out her skills on a picture that was clearly so — out her skills on a picture that was clearly so significant given it was the first— clearly so significant given it was the first official picture since her operation — the first official picture since her operation. has it done anyone any harm? _ operation. has it done anyone any harm? i_ operation. has it done anyone any harm? i don't think it really has. is harm? i don't think it really has. is this _ harm? i don't think it really has. is this new? _ harm? i don't think it really has. is this new? absolutely not. cecil beaten, — is this new? absolutely not. cecil beaton, famed photographer, was known _ beaton, famed photographer, was known for— beaton, famed photographer, was known for touching up photos for various _ known for touching up photos for various royals he took photos of. at prince _ various royals he took photos of. at prince edward's wedding at the end of the _ prince edward's wedding at the end of the last— prince edward's wedding at the end of the last century, edward and sophie — of the last century, edward and sophie married and william wasn't so cheerful_ sophie married and william wasn't so cheerful in— sophie married and william wasn't so cheerful in the picture so the photographer admitted afterwards that he _ photographer admitted afterwards that he used a different picture of william _ that he used a different picture of william and popped his head on the body of— william and popped his head on the body of the wedding photo. it has happened since time in more real, almost _ happened since time in more real, almost hack— happened since time in more real, almost back to the 1860s when abraham — almost back to the 1860s when abraham lincoln's head was popped on the top _ abraham lincoln's head was popped on the top of— abraham lincoln's head was popped on the top of someone else's body on a picture. _ the top of someone else's body on a picture. and — the top of someone else's body on a picture, and it is not new, it is a bit picture, and it is not new, it is a hit daft — picture, and it is not new, it is a hit daft and _ picture, and it is not new, it is a bit daft and silly, but harmful? no. why have _ bit daft and silly, but harmful? no. why have the agency is taking a stand on this if every role photograph, asjenny stand on this if every role photograph, as jenny says, stand on this if every role photograph, asjenny says, has been touched up since time memorial? why have they taken is done i suppose because it is newsworthy. —— why have they taken a stand. i will actually contradictjennyjust have they taken a stand. i will actually contradictjenny just very quickly, a fellow dell than the person, when it comes to the actual photo itself, i think if she isjust experimenting, she has done a cracking job. experimenting, she has done a crackingjob. i experimenting, she has done a cracking job. i teach photo shop as well, and i have 30 years of experience with it and i think she has done pretty well and it took me a few minutes to start spotting the serious discrepancies in the image so ijust can't understand what the big deal is because we have always done this to images. so you went through every level analysis, what is that and what did you pick up? it is that and what did you pick up? it basically looks for discrepancies in compression so you if you have two images and they both had slightly different compression rates, in other words, the algorithms used to reduce the size of the image file, this stands out a mile, so you will have this matrix of pixels and the ela will actually, the error level analysis, will actually cause anything which has a different compression level to stand out any different colour, so it which will be like an orange compared to the blue background so yes, it does highlight anything which is extremely different about the image. were just be clear, you don't think that an image from an earlier photograph has been put into this image? photograph has been put into this imaue? ~ , , photograph has been put into this imaue? ~ , ., photograph has been put into this image?_ know. i photograph has been put into this image?_ know, soj photograph has been put into this l image?_ know, so is image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of — image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of thing _ image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of thing you _ image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of thing you can - image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of thing you can do - image? absolutely not. know, so is it the sort of thing you can do on . it the sort of thing you can do on your smart android phone? is that the sort of thing? is it a capability that some others have on the newer issue bones? yes. capability that some others have on the newer issue bones?— capability that some others have on the newer issue bones? yes, but the meta data in — the newer issue bones? yes, but the meta data in the _ the newer issue bones? yes, but the meta data in the image _ the newer issue bones? yes, but the meta data in the image points - the newer issue bones? yes, but the meta data in the image points to - meta data in the image points to this perhaps being a canon camera as opposed to a smartphone. but of course that data can sometimes queue. —— the newer issue of phones. but you are clear it is something that the princess of wales could have done on her own? you might guess, and i think she has done a reasonable job, guess, and i think she has done a reasonablejob, but she hasjust missed a few things out, that is all. then the jury would suggest you are right, jenny, it is a bit of a storm of a teacup, or is it, in this age of deepfakes, and given a crisis of trust there is at the moment in the royalfamily, is this of trust there is at the moment in the royal family, is this a of trust there is at the moment in the royalfamily, is this a really bad own goal? the the royalfamily, is this a really bad own goal?— the royalfamily, is this a really bad own coal? ., ., ., ., bad own goal? the media are going to make it that — bad own goal? the media are going to make it that and _ bad own goal? the media are going to make it that and i _ bad own goal? the media are going to make it that and i don't _ bad own goal? the media are going to make it that and i don't think - bad own goal? the media are going to make it that and i don't think it - make it that and i don't think it is. make it that and i don't think it is i_ make it that and i don't think it is ithink— make it that and i don't think it is. i think that by giving it publicity— is. i think that by giving it publicity we have, i mean, it is a legitimate — publicity we have, i mean, it is a legitimate question to ask but we are going — legitimate question to ask but we are going on and on about it and we are going on and on about it and we are firing— are going on and on about it and we are firing up — are going on and on about it and we are firing up the social media frenzy— are firing up the social media frenzy which has been going on ever since _ frenzy which has been going on ever since catherine had her surgery. she wants— since catherine had her surgery. she wants that _ since catherine had her surgery. she wants that to be private, she has a right— wants that to be private, she has a right for— wants that to be private, she has a right for that to maintain that privacy— right for that to maintain that privacy around it. but this frenzy of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going oniine _ of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going oniine is— of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going online is absurd and we should not -ive online is absurd and we should not give any— online is absurd and we should not give any time to it, we should treat it with _ give any time to it, we should treat it with it— give any time to it, we should treat it with it disdain it deserves and the mainstream media are going to start being — the mainstream media are going to start being led by the nose by social— start being led by the nose by social media and what goes on on the internet. _ social media and what goes on on the internet. we — social media and what goes on on the internet, we are in real danger, so internet, we are in real danger, so ithink— internet, we are in real danger, so i think we — internet, we are in real danger, so i think we should stop it. let internet, we are in real danger, so i think we should stop it.— i think we should stop it. let me 'ust read i think we should stop it. let me just read you _ i think we should stop it. let me just read you what... _ i think we should stop it. let me just read you what. .. i _ i think we should stop it. let me just read you what... i mean, i i think we should stop it. let me | just read you what... i mean, it's not entirely neutral in what he has to say, but a mince goby —— omid scobie who wrote a book, said this today... he goes on to talk about whether there is now any chance of gaining back that trust at this point. does that hold any water for you, does he have a point, jenny? he that hold any water for you, does he have a point, jenny?— have a point, jenny? he would, wouldn't he. — have a point, jenny? he would, wouldn't he, he _ have a point, jenny? he would, wouldn't he, he would - have a point, jenny? he would, wouldn't he, he would say - have a point, jenny? he would, j wouldn't he, he would say that. have a point, jenny? he would, l wouldn't he, he would say that. i don't _ wouldn't he, he would say that. i don't think— wouldn't he, he would say that. i don't think this is seriously undermined the trust in the royal famiiy~ _ undermined the trust in the royal famiiy~ as — undermined the trust in the royal family. as i say, i think it is a harmless _ family. as i say, i think it is a harmless mistake the princess has made _ harmless mistake the princess has made and — harmless mistake the princess has made and i— harmless mistake the princess has made and i don't think there is any more _ made and i don't think there is any more to— made and i don't think there is any more to it. — made and i don't think there is any more to it, but this kind of criticism _ more to it, but this kind of criticism will carry on coming out her and — criticism will carry on coming out her and she _ criticism will carry on coming out her and she must be very embarrassed. catherine must be feeling _ embarrassed. catherine must be feeling physically and mentally quite _ feeling physically and mentally quite fragile after the serious operation. she is a woman in the prime _ operation. she is a woman in the prime of— operation. she is a woman in the prime of life and she wasn't expecting whatever has happened to you to _ expecting whatever has happened to you to happen i'm sure it is taken a lon- you to happen i'm sure it is taken a long time— you to happen i'm sure it is taken a long time mentally as everything else to _ long time mentally as everything else to get over it. and this is going — else to get over it. and this is going to — else to get over it. and this is going to set her back, i'm sure it _ going to set her back, i'm sure it... �* , ., going to set her back, i'm sure it... i'm 'ust wondering about the wisdom it. .. i'm just wondering about the wisdom of— it... i'm just wondering about the wisdom of the _ it... i'm just wondering about the wisdom of the common _ it... i'm just wondering about the wisdom of the common steam i it... i'm just wondering about the wisdom of the common steam at| wisdom of the common steam at kensington palace because as you say, there is all sort of mirrored speculation on social media but one is about the state of their marriage and they put out a photograph without ever ring on it. would somebody be for the chop because they didn't spot that? —— the communications team. mit? they didn't spot that? -- the communications team. why she wasn't wearin: her communications team. why she wasn't wearing her wedding _ communications team. why she wasn't wearing her wedding ring, _ communications team. why she wasn't wearing her wedding ring, perhaps - wearing herwedding ring, perhaps she had _ wearing herwedding ring, perhaps she had done the washing up and left it by the _ she had done the washing up and left it by the side of the singh, who knows? — it by the side of the singh, who knows? but it is also quite a fashion _ knows? but it is also quite a fashion statement these days you have no— fashion statement these days you have nojewellery fashion statement these days you have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i personally— have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i personally don't think we should even _ i personally don't think we should even he _ i personally don't think we should even be talking about difficulties in the _ even be talking about difficulties in the marriage because i don't think— in the marriage because i don't think there are any and again, we have— think there are any and again, we have been— think there are any and again, we have been led down the line of the internet _ have been led down the line of the internet trolls. | have been led down the line of the internet trolls.— internet trolls. i must say i sli . htl internet trolls. i must say i slightly lean _ internet trolls. i must say i slightly lean to _ internet trolls. i must say i slightly lean to where - internet trolls. i must say i slightly lean to where you | internet trolls. i must say i i slightly lean to where you are internet trolls. i must say i - slightly lean to where you are on all of this, jenny, as my editing team no. just a final one to you, james, which does interest me. the analysis which has gone into these photos and the information that the bbc among others has been able to put out there paradoxically in this age of deepfakes does show that actually come legacy media, within mainstream media, there is a lot of work that now goes on into these images before they are put out there willy—nilly. you might absolutely huge amounts. i'vei willy-nilly. you might absolutely huge amounts. i've— willy-nilly. you might absolutely huge amounts. i've i hope i'm not sidestepping _ huge amounts. i've i hope i'm not sidestepping what _ huge amounts. i've i hope i'm not sidestepping what you _ huge amounts. i've i hope i'm not sidestepping what you are - huge amounts. i've i hope i'm not sidestepping what you are asking | sidestepping what you are asking here but one thing i noticed about the image in particular is that both charlotte and, i think it is loopy, they both have their fingers crossed which is a bit of an anomaly. the reason why i think that is is because just like old family photographs, the children are messing around, and because they are messing around, and because they are messing around, and because they are messing around, gathering then has to doctor the image but we all do it and every photo that goes through scrutiny to be put into magazines is to be doctored in some way, whether it is cropping, improving the light, the colour saturation, or in many cases, removing blemishes from faces or even slimming body parts, which there is no evidence for anything like that in this image. i think it is a storm in a teacup.— like that in this image. i think it is a storm in a teacup. writes, that will do for — is a storm in a teacup. writes, that will do for me. _ is a storm in a teacup. writes, that will do for me. thank _ is a storm in a teacup. writes, that will do for me. thank you - is a storm in a teacup. writes, that will do for me. thank you both. - will do for me. thank you both. lovely to talk to you. jennie bond there and also james middleton, an expert on photography. thank you both for your thoughts, around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. throughout uk view were still with us, let's look at some of the news making headlines today. free conservative ex home secretaries have warned the government against using extremism to score political points in a general election year. priti patel, sajid javid and amber rudd said cross—party support is needed to defeat extremism i mean by the government says it will invest over £117 million due protect mosques, muslim schools and community centres from eight attacks over the next four years. the recently sacked inspectors of the home office and immigration —— borders and immigration says the home office is dysfunctional. he was sacked for leaking information he said was inaccurate and he said he paid the price for speaking out about border concerns. anyone over the age of a0 is being urged to get a blood pressure check as the nhs once there are millions of people who don't realise they have dangerously high levels and this can put a strain on the heart and lead to conditions such as heart attacks and strokes. you are life with bbc news. —— you are live. palestinians began fasting for the muslim holy month of ramadan on monday with cease—fire talks at a standstill, hunger worsening across the gaza strip and no end in sight to the five—month—old war between israel and hamas. a ship with aid for gaza has not yet left cyprus. it has faced repeated delays. it is carrying 200 tonnes of food and medical supplies. but, without a working port, it's not clear yet where the ship will actually dock — or how its cargo will be distributed within the territory. over the weekend, joe biden said any israeli assault on rafah where 1.5 million have been sheltering would, for him, be "a red line" and said that the suffering of those in gaza was at "front of mind" as ramadan begins. but in an interview with the news site politico, prime minister netenyahu said this. "you know, i have a red line. you know what the red line is? "that oct 7th doesn't happen again. "never happens again." our middle east correspondent quentin sommerville is in lanraca, he is watching the aid operation from cyprus and he sent us this report. there is no functioning port in gaza. the israeli offensive, the bombardment has devastated infrastructure there, so there is nowhere for this aid to land. so the charity involved, world central kitchen, has hired heavy lifting equipment, is moving huge boulders, and is building its own pier, its own jetty out into the mediterranean to get ready to receive aid. the problem is that thatjetty may not be ready yet. thejourney from larnaca, where i am now, to gaza, it usually takes about 15 hours, but is is expected to take this boat and the barge it is towing about 50 hours, much longer because of the cargo and the nature of the vessel. the conservative mp alicia kearns, who's chair of the foreign affairs committee, has just returned from a trip to the middle east. she says not enough aid is getting into gaza — and she had some harsh words for the israeli government. so they have rules that seem to change on a daily basis. so on one day we heard nothing was allowed to be brought in in metal containers. now you can understand that. i am absolutely opposed to anything going into gaza that could be dual use. for example, there were solar lamps that somebody sent. now, those, of course, could be used to like tunnels. those shouldn't be going in. but on one day it was no metal. you must send things in wooden carts. the next day wooden carts were sent and they were rejected. there is no consistency. now, when i raised this with the israeli spokesperson and i raised it on social media and he came back to me, he had to delete his tweet where he said that the israelis were happy to facilitate an additional 100 trucks a day. he claimed that the un had said that they did not want shipments to happen on a saturday. he could provide no evidence for it. the british government, lord cameron, has been very clear that israel has the ability to allow more aid to get in there, the ability to switch water back on. that is a choice that they need to make. a lot of the israeli operations in gaza have been focused in and around the hospitals. a lot of the israeli operations in gaza have been focused in and around the hospitals, which makes life extremely difficult for the doctors and nurss. dr bisen gaskell is an nhs anaesthetist at queen elizabeth hospital here in south london. she hasjust come back from gaza where she has been working with the charity doctors without borders. thank you for being here. thank you for havin: thank you for being here. thank you for having me- _ thank you for being here. thank you for having me. why _ thank you for being here. thank you for having me. why did _ thank you for being here. thank you for having me. why did you - thank you for being here. thank you for having me. why did you go - thank you for being here. thank you for having me. why did you go miss| for having me. why did you go miss ever since the _ for having me. why did you go miss ever since the conflict _ for having me. why did you go miss ever since the conflict began, - for having me. why did you go miss ever since the conflict began, i - for having me. why did you go miss ever since the conflict began, i was| ever since the conflict began, i was closely following the context and i was horrified at what was going on and it increasingly became worse and hearing the stories of children having procedures done to them without anaesthesia, it was just horrifying. it was inconceivable to even imagine. it is so barbaric that i think most people think now that this cannot possibly be true and i had some sleepless nights over this. i remember going into thousand and eight in the middle of the war and you go from the egyptian side where there is order and some semblance of normal life into rougher on the gaza side, what did that feel like, that moment? ., , , ., , moment? you 'ust set it on the spot, ou enter moment? you just set it on the spot, you enter gaza _ moment? you just set it on the spot, you enter gaza and _ moment? you just set it on the spot, you enter gaza and the _ moment? you just set it on the spot, you enter gaza and the reality - you enter gaza and the reality changes and you have a sense of chaos and you realise that what you see, the bombardment, the sound of bombing, the poverty, the crowd of people —— into rafah on the gaza side. the smoke you see in the air in nearby districts, you feel like you havejust in nearby districts, you feel like you have just entered some kind in nearby districts, you feel like you havejust entered some kind of dystopia, some kind of... have you read george orwell�*s novel 198a? so, ijust read george orwell�*s novel 198a? so, i just felt like i read george orwell�*s novel 198a? so, ijust felt like i was entering some sort of dystopian world. suddenly, the reality changes and you feel the threats to life at all times. teiiii threats to life at all times. tell me about _ threats to life at all times. tell me about your _ threats to life at all times. tell me about your work. _ threats to life at all times. tell me about your work. there is a shortage of everything and we know that. did you take drugs with you and anaesthesia with you? what did you take in? i and anaesthesia with you? what did you take in?— do that. i went with medecins sans frontieres and the access to gaza is extremely restricted so i could not accept personal items, i wasn't really in a position to take anything, but medecins sans frontieres had some medical supplies and in the msf setting in the clinic that i worked, msf had certain, with limits, but certain kind of medical supplies, including medicines and equipment. 50 supplies, including medicines and ea-uiment. ., , supplies, including medicines and equipment-— supplies, including medicines and ea-uiment. ., , equipment. so many young people in gaza. equipment. so many young people in gaza- while — equipment. so many young people in gaza. while most _ equipment. so many young people in gaza. while most of _ equipment. so many young people in gaza. while most of your— equipment. so many young people in gaza. while most of your patients - gaza. while most of your patients children? , ., , ., , ., children? yes, i have been any war zone context _ children? yes, i have been any war zone context before _ children? yes, i have been any war zone context before but _ children? yes, i have been any war zone context before but what - children? yes, i have been any war zone context before but what was i zone context before but what was really staggering in gaza is the sheer amount of them. and we are seeing them in big, they are represented in masses, and seeing them in large numbers, it was disturbing to me. find them in large numbers, it was disturbing to me.— them in large numbers, it was disturbing to me. them in large numbers, it was disturbin: to me. �* ., , ., disturbing to me. and what were you rinci all disturbing to me. and what were you principally treating? _ disturbing to me. and what were you principally treating? the _ disturbing to me. and what were you principally treating? the primary - principally treating? the primary focus of our _ principally treating? the primary focus of our clinic _ principally treating? the primary focus of our clinic was _ principally treating? the primary focus of our clinic was on - principally treating? the primary| focus of our clinic was on treating trauma and burns cases, and especially focusing on post—operative care. 50 especially focusing on post-operative care. so that reruires post-operative care. so that requires plastic _ post-operative care. so that requires plastic surgery - post-operative care. so that requires plastic surgery in i post-operative care. so that - requires plastic surgery in normal circumstances, so what sort of care were you able to offer those people in gaza at the moment? that requires a lot of care. — in gaza at the moment? that requires a lot of care, post-operative - in gaza at the moment? that requires a lot of care, post-operative care - a lot of care, post—operative care for patients requires many months, it requires physiotherapy, it requires multiple to write magda linette, many procedures, i have seen that in the burns cases i have seen, it was very complex, it involved the thorax and there were many trauma injuries so these would normally require trauma centres and prolonged care, so without this treatment, they are bound to have contractures, infections, disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients — disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients that _ disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients that as _ disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients that as you _ disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients that as you say, - disabilities, pain syndromes. those are patients that as you say, they l are patients that as you say, they require dramatic care for months and months. in previous conflicts, there has been a sort of convoy of ambulances going out on the egyptian side. is that not happening? are the most desperate patients not getting out of gaza? i most desperate patients not getting out of gaza? ., �* ~ most desperate patients not getting out of gaza? ., �* ,, ,., , out of gaza? i don't think so. on my ent to out of gaza? i don't think so. on my entry to gaza. _ out of gaza? i don't think so. on my entry to gaza. i— out of gaza? i don't think so. on my entry to gaza, i was _ out of gaza? i don't think so. on my entry to gaza, i was there _ out of gaza? i don't think so. on my entry to gaza, i was there waiting i entry to gaza, i was there waiting two hours to be cleared and on the exit of gaza, i was there another three hours waiting to be permitted for exit. i have not seen any movement, so there was loads of trucks lined up just on the egyptian side, in rafah. hundreds and hundreds, but i've not seen much movement. in hundreds, but i've not seen much movement-— movement. in the course of your work, movement. in the course of your work. you _ movement. in the course of your work. you have _ movement. in the course of your work, you have seen _ movement. in the course of your work, you have seen many - movement. in the course of your l work, you have seen many difficult things and covered many conflicts. why nightmares about this one? i why nightmares about this one? i think the access to health care is a lot more limited here, it is almost nonexistent. so the access to health care is a basic human right. and i have never really had stories, i have never really had stories, i have never really had stories, i have never come across experiences as such the children would have procedures without anaesthetics. i mean, this is unheard of. in all my other six missions i have done in iraq, yemen, nigeria, south sudan, i have never really heard these kind of testimonies, and hearing this and also actually, i witness the pain management in gaza, and free talking to other local msf colleagues, free health care workers, and i know that pain management is very suboptimal. in some cases, it is nonexistent. this is just inhumane. in some cases, it is nonexistent. this isjust inhumane. it is barbaric. this isjust inhumane. it is barbaric-— this isjust inhumane. it is barbaric. ~ ., , ., this isjust inhumane. it is barbaric. ., , ., , barbaric. where any of your patients doctors and — barbaric. where any of your patients doctors and nurses _ barbaric. where any of your patients doctors and nurses themselves? - barbaric. where any of your patients | doctors and nurses themselves? yes, i had three doctors and nurses themselves? yes, i had three of— doctors and nurses themselves? yes, i had three of them _ doctors and nurses themselves? yes, i had three of them and _ doctors and nurses themselves? ya: i had three of them and they were health care workers themselves. and health care workers themselves. and what sort of — health care workers themselves. and what sort of injuries have they sustained? what sort of in'uries have they sustained?— what sort of in'uries have they sustained? , ., , , sustained? they were in a pretty bad state because _ sustained? they were in a pretty bad state because they _ sustained? they were in a pretty bad state because they were _ sustained? they were in a pretty bad state because they were injured - sustained? they were in a pretty bad state because they were injured but. state because they were injured but they were unable to receive adequate treatment and they were suffering from complications such as osteomyelitis.— from complications such as osteomyelitis. from complications such as osteom elitis. , ., , ., osteomyelitis. there is only one workinu osteomyelitis. there is only one working hospital _ osteomyelitis. there is only one working hospital left _ osteomyelitis. there is only one working hospital left in - osteomyelitis. there is only one working hospital left in the - working hospital left in the southern part of gaza, i believe. this is a field hospital, is it, that you were working in? 50. this is a field hospital, is it, that you were working in? so, i worked in _ that you were working in? so, i worked in rafah _ that you were working in? so, i worked in rafah field _ that you were working in? srr, i worked in rafah field hospital, that you were working in? se, i worked in rafah field hospital, this was an msf clinic. the only other hospital left is an mri hospital. what happens if the campaign extends into rafah? what happens to that view hospital you were working in? i can't even begin to imagine that. there is 1.a million trapped in rafah, people trapped. they have nowhere to go, so they have no way to go. did nowhere to go, so they have no way to no. , , ., nowhere to go, so they have no way toao. , to go. did you feel safe while you were working _ to go. did you feel safe while you were working there, _ to go. did you feel safe while you were working there, given - to go. did you feel safe while you were working there, given that i were working there, given that presumably, the coordinators of the supply are the idf.— supply are the idf. well, the idf didn't promise _ supply are the idf. well, the idf didn't promise any _ supply are the idf. well, the idf didn't promise any security - supply are the idf. well, the idf didn't promise any security and l supply are the idf. well, the idf didn't promise any security and i | didn't promise any security and i certainly didn't feel safe. there is constant bombardment and there is hunger, starvation, lack of clean water, lack of electricity, lack of public services. you walk in gaza and it is a death zone, and if you're not hit by a bombardment, you are then likely to die from all these other courses. it is a death zone. it is unlivable to live in rafah, in gaza, and yes, if rafah is attacked then i don't really have an answer to this. i don't know where these 1.a million people will go. i don't know. these 1.4 million people will go. i don't know— these 1.4 million people will go. i don't know. ~ , ., ,, don't know. well, listen, thank you for coming — don't know. well, listen, thank you for coming in _ don't know. well, listen, thank you for coming in and _ don't know. well, listen, thank you for coming in and sharing _ don't know. well, listen, thank you for coming in and sharing your - for coming in and sharing your experience. i know they are not easy things to recall but it is good of you to come in.— things to recall but it is good of ou to come in. ., ,, i. ., ., you to come in. thank you for having me. will you to come in. thank you for having me- will you — go back? yes, i will. we will take a break and then _ go back? yes, i will. we will take a break and then we _ go back? yes, i will. we will take a break and then we will— go back? yes, i will. we will take a break and then we will talk- go back? yes, i will. we will take a break and then we will talk about l break and then we will talk about the biggest nato exercises since the cold war and get some views on that. we talk a lot about aviation when it comes to climate change but what about buildings. they are responsible for 25% of our carbon footprint. how do we make sure we are responsible as we move into the future? stay with us. hello. it's been a grey and drab day for many — lots of cloud overhead, some mist and murk, spots of drizzle, quite a chilly feel for some as well. it is set to turn milder over the next few days as south—westerly winds develop. with that, there will be spells of rain, but some sunny spells in between and actually in the sunshine, i think it will start to feel fairly warm. on the earlier satellite picture, you can see cloud rolling in from the atlantic. that's our next weather system. we'll see rain splashing across northern ireland by the end of the evening and then some of that rain into parts of wales, western england, south west scotland. by the end of the night, some further rain across the far north of scotland, particularly shetland. in between, lots of cloud, somemist and murk. some mist and murk. any clear spells will allow it to get perhaps just a little bit chilly, but temperatures generally holding up quite nicely. so, into tomorrow, here comes our next frontal system, outbreaks of rain. and actually you can follow this weather front back out into the atlantic. it's going to be with us for the next few days. our first pulse of wet weather bringing some pretty heavy downpours our first pulse of wet weather bringing some pretty heavy downpours, actually, across parts of england and wales through the day. that rain falling on ground that is already wet, so there could be some localised flooding impacts after perhaps some brighter weather for a time. the north—east coast of scotland may see a little bit of sunshine. temperatures generally 8—1a degrees. now, through tuesday night into wednesday, low pressure will pass to the north of the uk. quite a few isobars here on the chart, so in the far north it will be windy. we could see gales in the far north—west of scotland, but here there should be some spells of sunshine, albeit with a scattering of showers. this weather front pushing slowly south with outbreaks of rain through northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, north wales. to the south east of that, quite a lot of cloud. but in any sunshine, with some very mild air, temperatures could climb to 15 or 16 degrees. and that mild air is set to surge northwards as we head on into thursday, something colder clinging on in the far north of scotland. but we've got this band of rain pushing its way northwards. that's a weather front, a warm front. and to the south of it, we introduce that warmer air. quite a few showers out west. best chance of sunshine in the east of england. that could lift temperatures to 16 or possibly 17 degrees. and it is going to stay pretty mild as we head through friday and into the weekend. there'll be some spells of sunshine, but still the chance for some rain at times. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. swedish troops are taking part in a significant nato exercise — aimed at defending the alliance's eastern flank. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's here is. premier league clubs have rejected a proposalfor a £900 million settlement for the football league, following a shareholders meeting on monday. a new deal might be now be imposed on them by the uk government. premier league sides also agreed to prioritise changes to the rules around profit and sustainability which could see clubs allowed to spend approximately 85% of their turnover on costs like transfer fees and wages. one game in the premier league to update you on, which is under way — newcastle can move back