The problem for the palace, and what does it tell us in the age of deep fakes . Also on the programme, we are going to hear tonight from one of the msf doctors who is fresh back from gaza, on her experience of operating under bombardment. And the biggest nato exercises since the cold war. What are they rehearsing, and how do they keep it secret from the russians . Good evening. The picture released by Kensington PalaceOn Mothering Sunday was supposed to put paid to some of the madder Conspiracy Theories about the princess of wales you would find if you spend any time on social media. Instead it has only added to them. Last night, five Picture Agencies refused to use the photo because it had been doctored. The daily mail today listed 16 issues with that picture, from the leaves on the trees, princess charlottes hand not being in line with her sleeve to the pattern on prince georges jumper. This morning, the princess was forced to admit via x that she had indeed changed it. Analysis suggests that the photograph was taken on friday. The first save was made at 9. 51ipm on friday night, with the second at 9. 39am on saturday morning. Nick eardley at bbc verify has been investigating. A number of people have noticed some discrepancies in this image and once you see them, they are actually quite hard to ignore. Have a look here at this bit, princess charlottes sleeve. As you can see, these bits here dont match up. The same is true if you look at princess catherines zip. Part of it is here and part of it is here, it doesnt match up in this picture either. And then finally, this is a handy, princess catherines hand going around the waist of one of the princess and it is blurry. There are a few other examples like this which are a bit less obvious. But it was people noticing these issues that led to a number of Picture Agencies removing this image last night, saying that it shouldnt be used. That is clearly not the normal. Mick that is clearly not the normal. Nick eardley there that is clearly not the normal. Nick eardley there were that is clearly not the normal. Nick eardley there were some of the analysis on the photograph. With some of the analysis. Well, the princess of wales was seen today. She was photographed leaving Windsor Castle with her husband Prince William as he travelled to Westminster Abbey for the Commonwealth Day service. The princess did not attend the service. But at least that photograph will dispel some of the more lurid Conspiracy Theories that are out there. Joining me now is James Middleton a Photoshop Expert and former bbc royal correspondentjennie bond. It is lovely to see you, jenny. I will start with you. Is this a crisis . , ~ will start with you. Is this a crisis . , ~ ,. ,. , crisis . No, i think it is a storm in a teacun crisis . No, i think it is a storm in a teacun as crisis . No, i think it is a storm in a teacup. As the crisis . No, i think it is a storm in a teacup. As the princess crisis . No, i think it is a storm in a teacup. As the princess made l crisis . No, i think it is a storm ini a teacup. As the princess made a mistake . A teacup. As the princess made a mistake . Yes, she obviously has and she obviously is not very good at editing she obviously is not very good at editing and she shouldnt have tried out her editing and she shouldnt have tried out her skills on a picture that was clearly out her skills on a picture that was clearly so out her skills on a picture that was clearly so significant given it was the first clearly so significant given it was the First Official picture since her operation the First Official picture since her operation. Has it done anyone any harm . Operation. Has it done anyone any harm . I operation. Has it done anyone any harm . I dont think it really has. Is harm . I dont think it really has. Is this harm . I dont think it really has. Is this new . Harm . I dont think it really has. Is this new . Absolutely not. Cecil beaten, is this new . Absolutely not. Cecil beaton, famed photographer, was known beaton, famed photographer, was known for beaton, famed photographer, was known for touching up photos for various known for touching up photos for various royals he took photos of. At prince various royals he took photos of. At prince edwards wedding at the end of the prince edwards wedding at the end of the last prince edwards wedding at the end of the last century, edward and sophie of the last century, edward and Sophie Married and william wasnt so cheerful Sophie Married and william wasnt so cheerful in Sophie Married and william wasnt so cheerful in the picture so the photographer admitted afterwards that he photographer admitted afterwards that he used a different picture of william that he used a different picture of william and popped his head on the body of william and popped his head on the body of the wedding photo. It has happened since time in more real, almost happened since time in more real, almost hack happened since time in more real, almost back to the 1860s when abraham almost back to the 1860s when abraham lincolns head was popped on the top abraham lincolns head was popped on the top of abraham lincolns head was popped on the top of someone elses body on a picture. The top of someone elses body on a picture. And the top of someone elses body on a picture, and it is not new, it is a bit picture, and it is not new, it is a hit daft picture, and it is not new, it is a hit daft and picture, and it is not new, it is a bit daft and silly, but harmful . No. Why have bit daft and silly, but harmful . No. Why have the agency is taking a stand on this if every role photograph, Asjenny Stand on this if every role photograph, as jenny says, stand on this if every role photograph, asjenny says, has been touched up since time memorial . Why have they taken is done i suppose because it is newsworthy. Why have they taken a stand. I will actually contradictjennyjust have they taken a stand. I will actually contradictjenny just very quickly, a fellow dell than the person, when it comes to the actual photo itself, i think if she isjust experimenting, she has done a cracking job. Experimenting, she has done a crackingjob. I experimenting, she has done a cracking job. I teach photo shop as well, and i have 30 years of experience with it and i think she has done pretty well and it took me a few minutes to start spotting the serious discrepancies in the image so ijust cant understand what the big deal is because we have always done this to images. So you went through every level analysis, what is that and what did you pick up . It is that and what did you pick up . It basically looks for discrepancies in compression so you if you have two images and they both had slightly different compression rates, in other words, the algorithms used to reduce the size of the image file, this stands out a mile, so you will have this matrix of pixels and the ela will actually, the error level analysis, will actually cause anything which has a different compression level to stand out any different colour, so it which will be like an orange compared to the blue background so yes, it does highlight anything which is extremely different about the image. Were just be clear, you dont think that an image from an earlier photograph has been put into this image . Photograph has been put into this imaue . ~ , photograph has been put into this imaue . ~ ,. , photograph has been put into this image . Know. I photograph has been put into this image . Know, Soj Photograph has been put into this l image . Know, so is image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of thing image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of thing you image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of thing you can image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of thing you can do image . Absolutely not. Know, so is it the sort of thing you can do on. It the sort of thing you can do on your smart Android Phone . Is that the sort of thing . Is it a capability that some others have on the newer issue bones . Yes. Capability that some others have on the newer issue bones . Capability that some others have on the newer issue bones . Yes, but the meta data in the newer issue bones . Yes, but the meta data in the the newer issue bones . Yes, but the meta data in the image the newer issue bones . Yes, but the meta data in the image points the newer issue bones . Yes, but the meta data in the image points to meta data in the image points to this perhaps being a canon camera as opposed to a smartphone. But of course that data can sometimes queue. The newer issue of phones. But you are clear it is something that the princess of wales could have done on her own . You might guess, and i think she has done a reasonable job, guess, and i think she has done a reasonablejob, but she hasjust missed a few things out, that is all. Then the jury would suggest you are right, jenny, it is a bit of a storm of a teacup, or is it, in this age of deepfakes, and given a crisis of trust there is at the moment in the royalfamily, is this of trust there is at the moment in the royal family, is this a of trust there is at the moment in the royalfamily, is this a really bad own goal . The the royalfamily, is this a really bad own goal . The royalfamily, is this a really bad own coal . ,. ,. ,. , bad own goal . The media are going to make it that bad own goal . The media are going to make it that and bad own goal . The media are going to make it that and i bad own goal . The media are going to make it that and i dont bad own goal . The media are going to make it that and i dont think bad own goal . The media are going to make it that and i dont think it make it that and i dont think it is. Make it that and i dont think it is i make it that and i dont think it is ithink make it that and i dont think it is. I think that by giving it publicity is. I think that by giving it publicity we have, i mean, it is a legitimate publicity we have, i mean, it is a legitimate question to ask but we are going legitimate question to ask but we are going on and on about it and we are going on and on about it and we are firing are going on and on about it and we are firing up are going on and on about it and we are firing up the Social Media Frenzy are firing up the Social Media Frenzy which has been going on ever since frenzy which has been going on ever since catherine had her surgery. She wants since catherine had her surgery. She wants that since catherine had her surgery. She wants that to be private, she has a right wants that to be private, she has a right for wants that to be private, she has a right for that to maintain that privacy right for that to maintain that privacy around it. But this frenzy of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going oniine of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going oniine is of unsourced, ridiculous stuff going online is absurd and we should not ive online is absurd and we should not give any online is absurd and we should not give any time to it, we should treat it with give any time to it, we should treat it with it give any time to it, we should treat it with it disdain it deserves and the Mainstream Media are going to start being the Mainstream Media are going to start being led by the nose by social start being led by the nose by social media and what goes on on the internet. Social media and what goes on on the internet. We social media and what goes on on the internet, we are in real danger, so internet, we are in real danger, so ithink internet, we are in real danger, so i think we internet, we are in real danger, so i think we should stop it. Let internet, we are in real danger, so i think we should stop it. I think we should stop it. Let me ust read i think we should stop it. Let me just read you i think we should stop it. Let me just read you what. I think we should stop it. Let me just read you what. I i think we should stop it. Let me just read you what. I mean, i i think we should stop it. Let me | just read you what. I mean, its not entirely neutral in what he has to say, but a mince goby Omid Scobie Who wrote a book, said this today. He goes on to talk about whether there is now any chance of gaining back that trust at this point. Does that hold any water for you, does he have a point, jenny . He that hold any water for you, does he have a point, jenny . Have a point, jenny . He would, wouldnt he. Have a point, jenny . He would, wouldnt he, he have a point, jenny . He would, wouldnt he, he would have a point, jenny . He would, wouldnt he, he would say have a point, jenny . He would, j wouldnt he, he would say that. Have a point, jenny . He would, l wouldnt he, he would say that. I dont wouldnt he, he would say that. I dont think wouldnt he, he would say that. I dont think this is seriously undermined the trust in the royal famiiy~ undermined the trust in the royal famiiy~ as undermined the trust in the royal family. As i say, i think it is a harmless family. As i say, i think it is a harmless mistake the princess has made harmless mistake the princess has made and harmless mistake the princess has made and i harmless mistake the princess has made and i dont think there is any more made and i dont think there is any more to made and i dont think there is any more to it. Made and i dont think there is any more to it, but this kind of criticism more to it, but this kind of criticism will carry on coming out her and criticism will carry on coming out her and she criticism will carry on coming out her and she must be very embarrassed. Catherine must be feeling embarrassed. Catherine must be feeling physically and mentally quite feeling physically and mentally quite fragile after the serious operation. She is a woman in the prime operation. She is a woman in the prime of operation. She is a woman in the prime of life and she wasnt expecting whatever has happened to you to expecting whatever has happened to you to happen im sure it is taken a lon you to happen im sure it is taken a long time you to happen im sure it is taken a long time mentally as Everything Else to long time mentally as Everything Else to get over it. And this is going else to get over it. And this is going to else to get over it. And this is going to set her back, im sure it going to set her back, im sure it. � ,. , going to set her back, im sure it. Im ust wondering about the wisdom it. Im just wondering about the wisdom of it. Im just wondering about the wisdom of the it. Im just wondering about the wisdom of the common it. Im just wondering about the wisdom of the common steam i it. Im just wondering about the wisdom of the common steam at| wisdom of the common steam at Kensington Palace because as you say, there is all sort of mirrored speculation on social media but one is about the state of their marriage and they put out a photograph without ever ring on it. Would somebody be for the chop because they didnt spot that . The communications team. Mit . They didnt spot that . The communications team. Why she wasnt wearin her communications team. Why she wasnt wearing her wedding communications team. Why she wasnt wearing her wedding ring, communications team. Why she wasnt wearing her wedding ring, perhaps wearing herwedding ring, perhaps she had wearing herwedding ring, perhaps she had done the washing up and left it by the she had done the washing up and left it by the side of the singh, who knows . It by the side of the singh, who knows . But it is also quite a fashion knows . But it is also quite a Fashion Statement these days you have no Fashion Statement these days you have nojewellery Fashion Statement these days you have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i personally have no jewellery on whatsoever, and i personally dont think we should even i personally dont think we should even he i personally dont think we should even be talking about difficulties in the even be talking about difficulties in the marriage because i dont think in the marriage because i dont think there are any and again, we have think there are any and again, we have been think there are any and again, we have been led down the line of the internet have been led down the line of the internet trolls. | have been led down the line of the internet trolls. Internet trolls. I must say i sli. Htl internet trolls. I must say i slightly lean internet trolls. I must say i slightly lean to internet trolls. I must say i slightly lean to where internet trolls. I must say i slightly lean to where you | internet trolls. I must say i i slightly lean to where you are internet trolls. I must say i slightly lean to where you are on all of this, jenny, as my editing team no. Just a final one to you, james, which does interest me. The analysis which has gone into these photos and the information that the bbc among others has been able to put out there paradoxically in this age of deepfakes does show that actually come legacy media, within Mainstream Media, there is a lot of work that now goes on into these images before they are put out there willy nilly. You might absolutely huge amounts. Ivei willynilly. You might absolutely huge amounts. Ive willynilly. You might absolutely huge amounts. Ive i hope im not sidestepping huge amounts. Ive i hope im not sidestepping what huge amounts. Ive i hope im not sidestepping what you huge amounts. Ive i hope im not sidestepping what you are huge amounts. Ive i hope im not sidestepping what you are asking | sidestepping what you are asking here but one thing i noticed about the image in particular is that both charlotte and, i think it is loopy, they both have their fingers crossed which is a bit of an anomaly. The reason why i think that is is because just like old family photographs, the children are messing around, and because they are messing around, and because they are messing around, and because they are messing around, gathering then has to doctor the image but we all do it and ev