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In 2014 class law was introduced and it would for the first time give people the opportunity to ask police for information about the violent past of their partner. But ten years on a bbc investigation has found that the scheme is not working as well as it could. ,. ,. ,. ,. Could. Surely a Standard Police check doesnt could. Surely a Standard Police check doesnt take could. Surely a Standard Police check doesnt take three could. Surely a Standard Police | check doesnt take three weeks could. Surely a Standard Police i check doesnt take three weeks to come back . fist check doesnt take three weeks to come back . Check doesnt take three weeks to come back . � ,. ,. , , come back . At this Domestic Abuse su ort come back . At this Domestic Abuse Sunport Groun come back . At this Domestic Abuse Sunport Groun some come back . At this Domestic Abuse Support Group some women come back . At this Domestic Abuse Support Group some women were l Support Group some women were unaware it existed. 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Over the past five years theres been a 30096 i five years theres been a 300 increase in applications with over 45,000 applications made last year but disclosure rates have fallen from 48 down to 38 in some forces to converts of days to respond when they are expected to respond within 28 days. But its notjust for the Police Respond, there is criticism of how they respond. The . O Police Respond, there is criticism of how they respond. They invited me to the station of how they respond. They invited me to the station for of how they respond. They invited me to the station for an of how they respond. They invited me to the station for an interview, of how they respond. They invited me to the station for an interview, it i to the station for an interview, it was a tiny little room with a table. The kind of room you would see people being interviewed and when they are in custody. The experiences of this woman they are in custody. The experiences of this woman with they are in custody. The experiences of this woman with west they are in custody. The experiences of this woman with West Yorkshire i of this woman with West Yorkshire police are portrayed by an actor. It police are portrayed by an actor. It felt like the police were not on my site, felt like i was being treated suspiciously that they should have been Trading Perpetrators of Domestic Abuse with, i did not feel belief. It could be a powerful tool for change but we are relying on the police using it on the right way and thatis police using it on the right way and that is not happening. Merit that is not happening. West yorkshire that is not happening. West Yorkshire Police that is not happening. West Yorkshire Police say that is not happening. West Yorkshire Police say they i that is not happening. West| Yorkshire Police say they set that is not happening. West Yorkshire Police say they set out and follow the guidance laid out by the home office but at Police Headquarters in North Yorkshire they are taking on more staff to deal with the growing numbers of requests. Irate with the growing numbers of reuuests. ~. , with the growing numbers of requests with the growing numbers of reuests. ,. , requests. We have basically doubled the amount we requests. We have basically doubled the amount we are requests. We have basically doubled the amount we are looking requests. We have basically doubled the amount we are looking at requests. We have basically doubled the amount we are looking at which | the amount we are looking at which is a combination of training, becoming more proactive in recognising the situation, the team or improving practice constantly and we review practice to make sure we are not missing opportunities because its an important scheme and we recognise high risk and urgent situations. W we recognise high risk and urgent situations. ,. ,. , situations. Those disclosures are prioritised situations. Those disclosures are prioritised. Claire situations. Those disclosures are prioritised. Claire never situations. Those disclosures are prioritised. Claire never had i situations. Those disclosures are prioritised. Claire never had the l prioritised. Claire never had the gift of knowledge that this scheme brings to allow her to make an informed decision about her relationship at thousands of people are benefiting from it. A Lasting Legacy that came from such tragedy. Clare woods daughter, maddy, and investigative journalist Caroline Bilton discussed clares law this morning with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt on bbc breakfast. Weve got a difficult line to walk today because we dont want to pick people off applying for class law. This scheme has the potential to help people and we want to stress anyone watching today, do not be put off from going to the Police Station and asking for class law, you will be heard but our investigation has found that depending on where you live in the country will be dependent on the response that you get. There are delays on how Police Respond to their son some are worse than others. Its a postcode lottery. Than others. Its a postcode lotte. , lottery. Maddy, you must feel frustrated lottery. Maddy, you must feel frustrated because lottery. Maddy, you must feel frustrated because your i lottery. Maddy, you must feel frustrated because your dad. Lottery. Maddy, you must feel. Frustrated because your dad has lottery. Maddy, you must feel frustrated because your dad has been campaigning for this and this has been your life since the age of, how old were you when you lost your mother . I was ten years old. When you heard the statistics, the response, how did it make you feel . It was frustrating because my granddad worked so hard to get this into law granddad worked so hard to get this into law undertaken a long time, and along into law undertaken a long time, and along with into law undertaken a long time, and along with others, took so much time, along with others, took so much time, its along with others, took so much time, itsjust frustrating its not being time, itsjust frustrating its not being used time, itsjust frustrating its not being used to its full potential because being used to its full potential because it needs to be implemented in every because it needs to be implemented in every way to make sure it says as many in every way to make sure it says as many peorrie in every way to make sure it says as many people as possible. Have in every way to make sure it says as many people as possible. Many people as possible. Have you manared many people as possible. Have you managed to many people as possible. Have you managed to put many people as possible. Have you managed to put in many people as possible. Have you managed to put in your many people as possible. Have you managed to put in your mind i many people as possible. Have you managed to put in your mind and i | managed to put in your mind and i would never be able to begin to understand what you have been through the fact that Something Like this was not in place when your mother was at risk. It seems so obvious now. It mother was at risk. It seems so obvious now mother was at risk. It seems so obvious now. It seems really crazy to me, it obvious now. It seems really crazy to me. Itjust obvious now. It seems really crazy to me, itjust seems obvious now. It seems really crazy to me, itjust seems common i obvious now. It seems really crazy i to me, itjust seems common sense that you to me, itjust seems common sense that you should be able to tell someone when they are in clear danger someone when they are in clear danger from quite a dangerous character, danger from quite a dangerous character, it seems so obvious but im character, it seems so obvious but im very character, it seems so obvious but im very glad now it is something that can im very glad now it is something that can be im very glad now it is something that can be done. It� s im very glad now it is something that can be done. Im very glad now it is something that can be done. Its a very brave thin ou that can be done. Its a very brave thing you are that can be done. Its a very brave thing you are doing that can be done. Its a very brave thing you are doing to that can be done. Its a very brave thing you are doing to speak that can be done. Its a very brave thing you are doing to speak out l that can be done. Its a very brave i thing you are doing to speak out and do it on Live Television given what happened to you and i will be led by you as to what you want to tell us about what you remember of that time and if you like, contrast it with what you know now about what your mother should have known. Can you tell us what you will about that sequence of events . Tell us what you will about that sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time is sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time is that sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time is that he sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time is that he had sequence of events . What i was aware of at the time is that he had been i of at the time is that he had been in trouble of at the time is that he had been in trouble for something before. And it was in trouble for something before. And it was driving offences, thats what he said it was driving offences, thats what he said. And i, being a child, i take he said. And i, being a child, i take that he said. And i, being a child, i take that at he said. And i, being a child, i take that at face value and so did my mother, wanting to believe the person my mother, wanting to believe the person that she loved and i kind of, im person that she loved and i kind of, in sorrvm person that she loved and i kind of, im sorry im sorry. You have a little drink of water im sorry. You have a little drink of water im im sorry. You have a little drink of water. Im so im sorry. You have a little drink of water. Im so sorry. Im sorry. You have a little drink of water. Im so sorry. You im sorry. You have a little drink of water. Im so sorry. You are i im sorry. You have a little drink. Of water. Im so sorry. You are here and everyone is going to listen to what you say and that is the point. Caroline, can you pick up and everyone can see from maddy, it is so hard. To know now and put into perspective, its very hard because its so personal and the point and the reason it is so important it is you are here at all is because it will make people pay more attention, first hand experience means everyone listens that if you had on your report without maddie doing what she has done. Its report without maddie doing what she has done. � ,. ,. ,. , has done. Its about raising awareness. Has done. Its about raising awareness. There has done. Its about raising awareness. There are i has done. Its about raising awareness. There are still. Has done. Its about raising i awareness. There are still people out there who do not know that this law exists, ive spoken to women at a Domestic Abuse Support Group and they did not know this scheme was there to support them so anything we can do to spread the word, that is why we are doing what we are doing. The reason we are doing this story and maddie is drawing attention to it is the delays, this is crucial, what you want is if you have concerns, the territory you are going into, you want to be able to going into, you want to be able to go somewhere and how something so you can check which is in theory what was supposed to happen. The olice what was supposed to happen. Tie police should what was supposed to happen. Tte police should respond what was supposed to happen. Tte police should respond within what was supposed to happen. Tte police should respond within 28 days but we are finding they are taking hundreds of days to respond in some cases. , ,. ,. , hundreds of days to respond in some cases. ,. ,. ,. , hundreds of days to respond in some cases. ,. ,. , cases. How comfortable are you talkin cases. How comfortable are you talking about cases. How comfortable are you talking about when cases. How comfortable are you talking about when the cases. How comfortable are you talking about when the flags i cases. How comfortable are you l talking about when the flags were raised and you could only see it as a baby, as a child, when the flags were raised, what help is available or who could possibly be spoken to . From what i remember my mum did go to the from what i remember my mum did go to the police, from what i remember my mum did go to the police, she reached out and she called to the police, she reached out and she called. She had Restraining Orders she called. She had Restraining Orders put but it was not enough. He kept turning orders put but it was not enough. He kept turning up, he kept stalking her, turning up at the house. It was like nothing her, turning up at the house. It was like nothing that was being done was enough like nothing that was being done was enough to like nothing that was being done was enough to prevent him. It is interesting enough to prevent him. It is interesting because enough to prevent him. It 3 interesting because caroline you have said there is improved liaison between victims of domestic violence, coercive control and abusive relationship or sufferers, i should say. Did your mother feel like she was being listened to because she had those orders in place . Because she had those orders in lace . ,. ,. , place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child that place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child that she place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child that she did place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child that she did not i place . She did not necessarily tell me as a child that she did not feel| me as a child that she did not feel that she me as a child that she did not feel that she was being listened to but i sensed that she was being listened to but i sensed frustration and she wanted to make sensed frustration and she wanted to make sure sensed frustration and she wanted to make sure that she and i were safe and i make sure that she and i were safe and i got make sure that she and i were safe and i got that sense from her that she did and i got that sense from her that she did not and i got that sense from her that she did not feel like she was being taken she did not feel like she was being taken seriously by the police. Caroline, taken seriously by the police. Caroline, tell us about how the police have reacted to your report because often, when we do stories, this specifically is about c