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11 people including two Health Care Workers in an israeli raid in the city of rafah thats according to gazas Health Ministry. The bbc� s Diplomatic Correspondent paul adams reports from jerusalem. How were so many people injured . Were they shot or crushed in a desperate stampede . At gazas shifa hospital, the un says theres evidence of both. This hospital is treating more than 200 people that were injured. We have seen people with gunshot wounds. You have seen amputees and we have seen children as young as 12. Jihad is haunted by what he saw when the convoy arrived on thursday morning. Were the soldiers firing deliberately . Hes asked. Yes. With tanks, soldiers, aircraft. Why the shooting started is still not clear. Israel says troops felt threatened. How . These pictures do not show. Tanks were present. Theres no evidence of aircraft being involved. The un finally reached gaza city yesterday, taking badly needed fuel and medicine to shifa hospital, demanding israel do more to open up the north. Today, the first air drops by american planes, 35,000 meals. But these are desperate measures. Air drops, no substitute for proper relief. No matter where we go into north gaza from or indeed all of the gaza strip. It could be from air, land, sea. It doesnt matter as long as theres enough aid to help the more than two Million People here. Israels closest allies are now sounding increasingly openly frustrated. Aid flowing to gaza is nowhere nearly enough. Now, its nowhere nearly enough. The president wants a ceasefire, but in rafah this morning, dreadful scenes outside a maternity hospital. Some images too shocking to broadcast. Gazas Health Ministry said this was an air strike. But is a Cease Fire Deal getting close . As the families and friends of israeli hostages marched onjerusalem, theres talk of a fresh round of negotiations in cairo tomorrow. Paul adams, bbc news, jerusalem. As paul adams mentioned There A March is taking Place Injerusalem Calling for a ceasefire. And as part of that, people Around The World are taking to the streets to stand against the war. This is washington dc, where people are attending the global day of action Hands Off Rafah march. Protestors are outside israels us embassy calling on us leaders for a ceasefire. They also paid tribute to us airman aaron bushnell, who died last week after setting himself on fire outside the embassy to protest israels bombing of gaza. Joining me live is elise labott, a Senior Adjunt Professor at american universitys School Of International Scienece and shes the author of the cosmopolitics substack. Welcome to the programme. The Us Military Air dropping eight on saturday for the first time, what message do you think that sends that israels closest ally has resorted to delivering aid from the air rather than being able to bring it in underground . fix, rather than being able to bring it in underground . Rather than being able to bring it in underground . A few things, first of all its a message in underground . A few things, first of all its a message from in underground . A few things, first of all its a message from the in underground . A few things, first of all its a message from the us i of all its a message from the us that it of all its a message from the us thatitis of all its a message from the us that it is dedicated to getting more aid into gaza. You know that is one of the things the administration has spoken very clearly about, about the need to get more aid in. So there is a lot of discussion about whether it is because the borders are closed or because of breakdown of law and order, and you so what has happened in the last few days inside gaza, with the aid trucks and opened fire. So, the us, israel is not really listening to the us right now about how many trucks should get in. So the us has resorted to that aid in, also, look, we see what happened here in the United States and how strongly americans feel about getting it into gaza, we saw what happened in the michigan primary, so its a message to President Biden from his domestic supporters that he hears them and is trying to get aid in. , hears them and is trying to get aid in. ,. , , hears them and is trying to get aid in. That airdrop coming as a top us officials as a in. That airdrop coming as a top us officials as a framework in. That airdrop coming as a top us officials as a framework for in. That airdrop coming as a top us officials as a framework for a in. That airdrop coming as a top us officials as a framework for a deal. Officials as a framework for a deal for six weeks cease fire in gaza is soon to take place. What do we know about that . We soon to take place. What do we know about that . ~. , soon to take place. What do we know about that . About that . We are waiting for hamas to 0k to deal about that . We are waiting for hamas to 0k to deal with, about that . We are waiting for hamas to 0k to deal with, what essays about that . We are waiting for hamas to 0k to deal with, what essays is to 0k to deal with, what essays is really more or less has accepted the framework deal. That is a bit fuzzy. There are some basic frameworks of ideal. Basically, both sides would and theirfighting, israel might stop Aerial Reconnaissance for eight hours a day and the main thing is about hostages. Harmony is really hostages would be treated for harmony by civilians. It seems about 40 harmony by civilians. It seems about a0 is really hostages and that includes women, elderly, those really sick, i didnt do vulnerable ones will get out, it looks like a ratio of about one to ten. That means about a00 palestinians. 0ne means about a00 palestinians. One of the Sticking Point is who those palestinians are. Obviously hamas want some of its fighters and people responsible for attacks on israelis to get out, and israel has been firm letting dangerous people out but also being clear on who should be letting out, and other Sticking Point of hamas is is is really going to withdraw its forces from the north to allow palestinians to return home to the north. As you know, in gaza, and rafah, in the south, it is really chaotic, checksheet, situation tragic, and obviously there will be an advance on gaza by israel when this is all done, so what everyone is hoping at least for now there could be, for ramadan, we are talking about a0 days, where palestinians could get some aid and return home, a return to normalcy, and if there is a return to fighting, that israel it will concentrate on the south. 0ne will concentrate on the south. One of the things hamas would be looking for is a guarantee that after these a0 days there will be talk about a permanent cease fire. Those assurances seem to be fuzzy as well. We are also learning that is really war cabinet member benny gantz is meeting with Vice President , Kamala Harris on monday, what do you think about that meeting . What do you think might realistically come from it . I think might realistically come from it . 4 ,. ,. , 4 it . I think the us is looking for clear assurances it . I think the us is looking for clear assurances about it . I think the us is looking for clear assurances about what i it . I think the us is looking for clear assurances about what israels plan is, about fighting resuming and the advance on rafah and what is the ease really plan for getting palestinians out of harms way israeli plan, not dismissing them from rafah to some other area. What are the Evacuation Routes which mark this is what the us is saying. It does not approve of an Offensive On Rafah until israel gives us assurances. It is interesting that, the harvest will be the one meeting with benny gantz, obviously President Biden is busy and is also campaigning as well, but at the same time i think Kamala Harris has been the one speaking very strongly about humanitarian aid, about what is going on in the palestinians, and i think theres a perception that she might be a bit tougher on benny gantz than President Biden. I do not necessarily think that is why she would meet him but you do see her taking a bit of a more visible role in the conflict. The Commander In Chief of Ukraines Armed forces, general 0leksandr Syrsky, has indicated hell replace some commanders on the eastern front. He said that after spending three days there, it had become clear why some battalions were managing to hold off russian attacks while others were not. General 0leksandr Syrsky took on the role of ukraines top Military Commander following a significant shake up of Army Leadership earlier in february. Meanwhile, ukrainian president zelensky renewed his plea to Western Allies for Additional Air defence systems, after at least seven people have been killed in a russian drone attack on 0desa. Local officials reported the victims of the overnight strike included a baby and a two year old child. Germanys chancellor says his government is investigating the apparent intercept by russia of a Military Meeting in which officers discussed the conflict in ukraine including plans to supply ukraine with german made missles. 0laf scholz, whos been meeting with the pope at the vatican , called it a very serious matter. Audio of whats believed to be a confidential Video Conference between german officers was posted to social media in russia. Dr thomas withington, an analyst and writer specialising in electronic warfare, spoke to the bbc about the signficance of the apparent hack. It was a discussion i think. Assuming it is, it is true and it is indeed an intercept that russias performed. A very sober discussion regarding the challenges of supplying these weapons, many of which have been already been discussed in the public domain. So i think there was nothing terribly, as i say, revelatory about it. I think the interesting thing is if russia has the capability to regularly intercept German Military communications and Strategic Communications like this, i mean, why Leak Something relatively anodyne . Former us President Donald Trump has clinched more wins in the race to secure the republican president ial nomination. His victories in missouri and michigan give him more delegates, and deals another blow to nikki haley who is mr trumps only remaining challenger in the race for the republican ticket. The biggest day for the two of them this week will be on � Super Tuesday, when 15 states and one territory will vote. But with ms Haley Distantly trailing mr trump, he is already setting his sights on novembers General Election. A New York Times siena poll out saturday says more Registered Voters would pick donald trump over joe biden if they were the two candidates in a General Election held today. Mr trump leads mr biden a8 a3. It also says that the share of voters who strongly disapprove of mr biden� s handling of hisjob has reached a7 thats higher than at any point in his presidency. That will likely be welcome news to mr trump who is holding a rally in richmond virginia. Live now to Bernd Debusmann whos in richmond outside of the rally. The to have you with us. Just to begin, tell us about the atmosphere there. You spoken to supporters, donald Trump Supporters, what have the tool do . We donald Trump Supporters, what have the tool do . The tool do . Ive been here for about eight the tool do . Ive been here for about eight hours the tool do . Ive been here for about eight hours and the tool do . Ive been here for about eight hours and theyre. The tool do . Ive been here for i about eight hours and theyre still hundreds of people lined up to hear donald trump speak, he supposed to speak shortly, ive spoken to people who have been here since 5am in the morning, and they want to see the candidate they feel it speaks with their issues. I asked him what those issues were, i got different answers. Education, the economy, but more than anything i heard concern about the border and perceptions that the border and immigration are driving crime. That something every Single Person i spoke to discussed, and i think thats is something lots of his supporters here, the ones that make it into seem, would be looking to hear from that make it into seem, would be looking to hearfrom him tonight. fin looking to hear from him tonight. 0n the stage tonight, what do you think based off previous appearances . This isnt it Traditional Campaign trail for donald trump right now, but based on messaging from other rallies, what do you think youll be trying to say to the crowd tonight . Earlier today, trying to say to the crowd tonight . Earliertoday, he trying to say to the crowd tonight . Earlier today, he had another events and touch up on most of the Talking Points that have come to define his campaign so far. The economy, his perception ofjoe biden and his ability to govern the United States, and he went on at some length about the border. And i think well be getting lots of those Talking Points tonight in richmond, but importantly there will be encouraging his voters to get out and vote. 0ne there will be encouraging his voters to get out and vote. One of the Campaign Slogans they unveiled was too big to rain. He wants us strong showing on Super Tuesday which will help with zooming of striking distance of solidifying his position later on in march, so i think you would be energising his supporters without messaging about the border might be economy and biden, so will hear a bit about that tonight. Then. Hear a bit about that tonight. Then, ou hear a bit about that tonight. Then, you mention hear a bit about that tonight. Then, you mention the hear a bit about that tonight. Then, you mention the fact hear a bit about that tonight. Then, you mention the fact that you mention the fact that Super Tuesday, 15 states going to the polls, one territory as well, mathematically speaking, is there the possibility that donald trump could wrap up the nomination at that early stage . Early stage . Mathematically speaking. Early stage . Mathematically speaking. He early stage . Mathematically speaking, he cannot early stage . Mathematically | speaking, he cannot officially clench it on Super Tuesday but a strong showing, which every indication of the moment is there would be a strong showing in his favour, we put them in striking distance of securing, of quenching that. His campaign has been telling reporters that they expected at the student censured by the 12th of march, the latest by the 19th, and a strong showing here will put him in this position of wrapping that up well before the end of the month. He will be hoping for a strong turnout on tuesday here in virginia and the other states that have the primaries. Other states that have the primaries other states that have the rimaries. ~. , ~ primaries. Then, we know these kind of races, looking primaries. Then, we know these kind of races, looking ahead primaries. Then, we know these kind of races, looking ahead to primaries. Then, we know these kind of races, looking ahead to the of races, looking ahead to the General Election, will be about excitement and enthusiasm for candidates. I know weve spoken to supporters for donald trump, nikki haley, joe biden, tell us more about that excitement and enthusiasm that donald Trump Supporters appear to have. This donald Trump Supporters appear to have. � ,. , � ,. , have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to eole have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to people that have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to people that today have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to people that today got have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to people that today got here at have. As i mentioned, ive spoken to people that today got here at five people that today got here at five a m. , people that today got here at five a m. , just for an opportunity to see him, and i spoke to people who are that enthusiastic about them that they would be here all day, many of them have driven from, i spoke to one man who drove from Newjersey Overnightjust to get in line early this morning. And i think that shows the level of dedication and commitment and excitement among his core base of supporters. That is what he is a candidate thrives on and that is what is campaign is open will prevail and forward into november. We will prevail and forward into november will prevail and forward into november. ~ ~. ,. , november. We know

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