create future policy. with me is priya lakhani, who's the founder ceo of century tech, an artificial intelligence education technology company that develops ai powered learning tools for schools, colleges, and universities. good to have you in the studio. you obviously have a vested interest in this because your thing is artificial intelligence in schools. how is this going to be used more widely? we've had this report that shows it's already being used by teachers. ,., shows it's already being used by teachers. ., , teachers. the report actually focuses on — teachers. the report actually focuses on generative - teachers. the report actually focuses on generative ai - teachers. the report actually l focuses on generative ai which teachers. the report actually - focuses on generative ai which is a last share of ai, check gpd and large laying two language models with up 62 countries and schools of colleges is about saving teachers time and empowering the students for that i would say teachers spend more than half of the time to cover 60% of their time marking, assessing, try to figure out what intervention is necessary, with which child. i always say they are teachers by day by data analyst by night. none of them really signed up to do that and it takes enormous amount of time. the way ai is going to be used, you are seeing this with this report using generative ai are seeing this with this report using generative aland classic ai is giving them the inside so they can be more impactful in the classroom. allowing them to make interventions and with generative ai, saving time with things on lesson planning and schemes of work. areas where if you look at the difference between ai and human intelligence, what can we have the teacher do that is really about the human intelligence and that one—on—one interaction? not that think that al could do to save them time. , .,, ., think that al could do to save them time. , ., time. some people would say the 'oy of bein: a time. some people would say the 'oy of being a teacher �* time. some people would say the 'oy of being a teacher in d time. some people would say the 'oy of being a teacher in the joy i time. some people would say the 'oy of being a teacher in the joy ofi of being a teacher in the joy of having a good teacher is a teacher who sits down and thinks about the lesson plan with deep thought. or a good teacher will look at marketing, notjust have a computer during the marking. that's the counter to that. it actually takes away everything thatis it actually takes away everything that is personal about being a teacher. if that is personal about being a teacher. , ., . that is personal about being a teacher. ., ., that is personal about being a teacher. . . , that is personal about being a teacher. ., ., , ., , teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson — teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson planning _ teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson planning to _ teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson planning to sit - teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson planning to sit there i about lesson planning to sit there to sit there and type the whole thing? does mean in al can come up with the structure because i absolutely used to review that and be able to apply what you doing for that there is no teacher will look at marketing, notjust have a computer doing the marking. that's the counter to that. it actually takes away everything that is personal about being a teacher. if you have a deep thoughts about lesson plan does that mean you have to sit there and type the whole thing? does mean in al can come up with a structure because i absolutely used to review that and be able to apply what you doing for that there is no change out there that there is no change out there that i've met who's saying ijust allow this to do my work for me at all vital. what they're saying is that if that lesson plan needs to be created and i use myself to be able to review it and tweak it for my own purposes that i could spend more time for him but sitting there with the children are having more of an impact with them. that's what they're trying to do. there is no argument that teachers work day and night, weekends, we think about long holidays, they don't. if you're using it in every other sector of the world to help everyone else why can't we use it in education? find can't we use it in education? and other artificial _ can't we use it in education? and other artificial intelligence story you wanted to get to while we have you wanted to get to while we have you here. meanwhile in india, there's been much controversy over indian celebrities being targeted by deepfake videos. indian actress rashmika mandanna, who fell victim to such a hack, has urged people to not share deep fake material, highlighting the urgent need for new ai regulations and safeguards. and just to illustrate how commonplace this is becoming, priya, i'm going to play you this. ..every millisecond and closes the deal with a 98% success rate. also, elon said that each resident will be able to earn an income of fiveteen and 700 pounds per day, no matter who you are, whether you're a housewife, a worker, or a waiter. this software works on any device, phone, laptop, ortablet. with this new project from elon musk, you will be able to earn income every day without any hassle. anyone can connect to the platform. and so, here's elon, who will tell you more of the project. i'll tell you more - about that in a moment. first... i have been deep faithful to i don't know if that's a badge of honour but it's quite worrying. according to the elon musk, doesn't sound like me. it authentic. you the elon musk, doesn't sound like me. it authentic.— me. it authentic. you found that because i _ me. it authentic. you found that because i was — me. it authentic. you found that because i was sent _ me. it authentic. you found that because i was sent it _ me. it authentic. you found that because i was sent it to - me. it authentic. you found that i because i was sent it to you, that's a real problem when there are a thousand. this is what is happening, you don't need to be an expert using this technology to produce a deep fake these days it's a huge ball, i don't disagree, we need to regulate deep fake fur that we need to act faster than lawmakers are acting at the moment. that has been movement and i recognise that. especially when it comes to pornographic images for that there's been a movement in the uk about that in different states of the us and across the world. the problem is a fine line between free speech, and i respect the argument of free speech and conning people. and what policymakers have to understand is that if you don't regulate deep fakes you are actually threatening free legitimate speech. we saw that in the middle east, we look at the lightest of it and it was sad about. people are going to look at authentic real images and videos and start to question whether they are authentic. this is where you have a problem. let's bring our panel and nandez. you are talking about people being conned, does that mean i can't put on my cv that i interviewed elon musk? let's bring tom and erica interviewed the discussion. tom, it wasn't too long ago that rishi sunak wasn't too long ago that rishi sunak was hosting an ai stomach and he did meet elon musk. whether you concurrently or not, we talk about safeguards that are in place. what does rishi sunak want to do in terms of safeguards? i does rishi sunak want to do in terms of safeguards?— of safeguards? i don't think anybody not back to of safeguards? i don't think anybody got back to previous _ of safeguards? i don't think anybody got back to previous gas _ of safeguards? i don't think anybody got back to previous gas has - 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i think it's only going to do so more distrust for that i - i think it's only going to do so more distrust for that i agree| i think it's only going to do so- more distrust for that i agree that needs— more distrust for that i agree that needs to — more distrust for that i agree that needs to be — more distrust for that i agree that needs to be some _ more distrust for that i agree that needs to be some mechanism - more distrust for that i agree that needs to be some mechanism for| needs to be some mechanism for proving _ needs to be some mechanism for proving whether— needs to be some mechanis