government, so another thing hostages will come out of rafah, then return into israel through another crossing, so travelling a little further before they come back in again. you might be able to hear the hubbub in the background here, people are desperate for the official information. i think as soon as is well know for sure that they are in a position to confirm this, they will get it out there straightaway. the sense of anticipation, people keep coming around here and i watching pictures on the screen. they are waiting to hear what i'm saying, listening to what you're saying, saying that they can pick up any titbits of information. it is really interesting how many people have come here and gathered for this moment in the centre of tel aviv in what has become known as a hostages square. we know that the government have certain details about how this will happen, how the hostages will be flown in helicopters from a military base to various hospitals to receive medical treatment. and also to be reunited with their families as well. i mean, think for just a moment those families her in those hospitalsjust now just a moment those families her in those hospitals just now who know their loved ones are on the way after having waited for nearly seven long weeks with no news about their condition, how they are, even whether or not they even survived. for those people now, these are the last anxious minutes of waiting. we know the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, the israeli defence minister, you have gland, art in at the ministry of defence building together —— yohav galant. and it was once they know something, we believe they will want that out. we have multiple media sources saying they have been transferred to the border. no confirmation from the israeli government or other sources. can you explain the role of the red cross at the moment? what can you explain the role of the red cross at the moment?— can you explain the role of the red cross at the moment? what you see the red cross — cross at the moment? what you see the red cross are _ cross at the moment? what you see the red cross are doing, _ cross at the moment? what you see the red cross are doing, there - cross at the moment? what you see the red cross are doing, there are i the red cross are doing, there are just not diplomatic relations between israel and her mass, so there was hostages are handed over to the icrc, the red cross, to bring about through gaza —— there are just not diplomatic relations between israel and hamas. hostages in the move in gaza with the icrc, but until they are physically out of gaza and into egypt, physically or into israel, i think that will be the moment for its availability to confirm it because we talked about the fragility of this deal, the various things that can go run when it is based on a fragile ceasefire. what we are seeing and hearing at the moment is the icrc in the middleman role having received the hostages. there was a suggestion the hostages. there was a suggestion the hostages would have their identity is confirmed by the israel defense forces, but it sounds very much like move now towards the rafah crossing and we keep seeing those pictures of the rafah crossing, the large crowd gathered there. and also crucially those pictures we show you of ofer prison in the west bank, the large israeli prison where the palestinian prisoners are going to be released. we know it is not going to happen until the hostages had been fully received by israel. not when they are in the middle ground where the icrc have them and are transporting them. at the point where they are received by israel, that is when we expect at ofer prison, the result of the —— release of the palestinian prisoners, women and teenage boys, 39 of them to be released today. the expectation is if all goes well, it is a pattern we will see repeated over the next three days. it is a four—day deal, so at a crucial stage. to reiterate what you're saying, multiple israeli media sources now saying there was a 13 israeli hostages, and we also know 12 thai nationals have been released as well, now with the red cross inside gaza en route to the rafah crossing between gaza and egypt. over the past few days, we have spoken to quite a lot of families have had loved ones taken and held hostage. one of the most poignant things i was told by one of them is that they're actually quite frightened to be hopeful, this is going to be such a moment for the families as well who have put a huge amount of political pressure on the government to make this happen. tell us the sort of emotions that people have been sharing with you. there is 'ust so have been sharing with you. there is just so much — have been sharing with you. there is just so much to _ have been sharing with you. there is just so much to be _ have been sharing with you. there is just so much to be considered. - have been sharing with you. there is just so much to be considered. one | just so much to be considered. one thing you rightly say is this was all meant to happen yesterday, we were expecting a wednesday, all the things you see today, the ceasefire, the release, it was supposed to happen yesterday, and then it late on wednesday evening, we heard there had been a delay, those families had to wait even longer. i think that is what makes them anxious and nervous until that have —— they have that official word to the hostages had been released and are in the hands of the israelis once again. you say, quite rightly, think of the emotional turmoil these hostages have been through. these are many children who are being released in this particular group. what did they see on october 7th? have they had any psychological help since then to process it? many of those hostages will not know what happened on 7th october and will not know what has happened subsequently. some may not know that their family members were murdered that day. that is something they will have to wait to find out. we do not know what sort of physical or mental state they are in. i was talking yesterday to the medical director for the hostages and missing persons family group and he actually has already treated and dealt with some of the families that were released and some of the hostages released in one of the things he told me that was particularly interesting was that one of those hostages, suddenly she was famous. everybody knew her name, everybody knew her face. people saw her in the street and they wanted to reach out, hug her, talk to her, but you might not be in the right frame of mind to be touched, looked at everywhere you go. there are things like the sensitivity to light, sensitivity to noise. we are told that the child hostages, when they're being transported in helicopters, will be given special your defenders just so the sound... because bear in mind, they have been held in gaza for nearly seven weeks in an area that is an active war zone where they have been considered air strikes going on, the constant sights and sounds of battle, so all of those things could be an emotional trigger. we know some of the hostages have ongoing physical conditions as well, medical conditions, and not all of them have had the medication potentially they need. there are so many things to be considered physically and mentally when it comes to those hostages being released, reunited with their families and reintegrating into society once again. so families and reintegrating into society once again.— families and reintegrating into society once again. so many things, anne. we society once again. so many things, me we have _ society once again. so many things, anne. we have been _ society once again. so many things, anne. we have been seeing - society once again. so many things, | anne. we have been seeing pictures of the air base where we think the hostages will arrive at. frankly, i hope you're still with us. anna outlining their the trauma we can only imagine these hostages have been through. also the possibility some may be leaving their men folk behind other members of their family behind. there is a lot of trauma there. that they will have to process. but as well they will have very important intelligence i imagine to give it to the idf. yes. imagine to give it to the idf. yes, i think it would _ imagine to give it to the idf. yes, i think it would be _ imagine to give it to the idf. yes, i think it would be very _ imagine to give it to the idf. yes, i think it would be very strange if the israeli — i think it would be very strange if the israeli military intelligence did not— the israeli military intelligence did not want to debrief them. they will want _ did not want to debrief them. they will want to know could you identify any of _ will want to know could you identify any of the _ will want to know could you identify any of the people holding you, what were you _ any of the people holding you, what were you -- — any of the people holding you, what were you —— where were you held, what _ were you —— where were you held, what were — were you —— where were you held, what were the conditions like, do you remember the root? what were the conditions like, do you rememberthe root? ithink fora lot of— you rememberthe root? ithink fora lot of the _ you rememberthe root? ithink fora lot of the hostages, particularly children. — lot of the hostages, particularly children, i think it will be hard for them — children, i think it will be hard for them to offer anything useful because — for them to offer anything useful because if you remember the chaos of that first _ because if you remember the chaos of that first day, october 7th, then being _ that first day, october 7th, then being snatched at gunpoint, taken across— being snatched at gunpoint, taken across the — being snatched at gunpoint, taken across the border, absolutely terrified _ across the border, absolutely terrified on the backs of pick—up trucks, — terrified on the backs of pick—up trucks, motorbikes at gunpoint, some of them _ trucks, motorbikes at gunpoint, some of them bleeding, battered, bruised, completely bewildered by what had suddenly happen by them, surrounded in some _ suddenly happen by them, surrounded in some cases by angry, very angry crowds, _ in some cases by angry, very angry crowds, chance, so there is that. then_ crowds, chance, so there is that. then the — crowds, chance, so there is that. then the trauma of what they have had for— then the trauma of what they have had for the — then the trauma of what they have had for the seven weeks of live with them _ had for the seven weeks of live with them for— had for the seven weeks of live with them for the rest of their lives. who— them for the rest of their lives. who knows what terror and fear they had in _ who knows what terror and fear they had in those — who knows what terror and fear they had in those channels, not knowing if they— had in those channels, not knowing if they were — had in those channels, not knowing if they were going to be executed or live or— if they were going to be executed or live or die — if they were going to be executed or live or die -- — if they were going to be executed or live ordie. —— in if they were going to be executed or live or die. —— in those tunnels. so we hostage — live or die. —— in those tunnels. so we hostage experience as a melodramatic thing and it will be something that will live with those survivors _ something that will live with those survivors for the rest of their lives — survivors for the rest of their lives. ., ~' , ., survivors for the rest of their lives. . ,, , ., ., ., �* , lives. thank you for that. let's remind viewers _ lives. thank you for that. let's remind viewers what _ lives. thank you for that. let's remind viewers what is - lives. thank you for that. let's i remind viewers what is happening right now. the latest we have from the thai prime minister, who has actually also said that thai 12 —— 12 thai hostages, workers in qubits is in southern israel, they have confirmed i2 is in southern israel, they have confirmed 12 thai hostages have been released and their names and details should be known. that coming from the thai government as well. that is good news. and the egyptians very much involved in negotiating for the release of these thai hostages. it comes as we still wait for the release of 13 women and children is, israeli women and children kidnapped on the attacks of october 7th. as part of the temporary ceasefire deal, both sides, the idf and hamas, both saying it is temporary, 39 palestinian detainees held in israeli jails will be released to the west bank. you can see here pictures probably near where anna is right now, actually... let's have a listen in. and i, what is happening where you are? , , �* , and i, what is happening where you are? , a _. ., are? this is benny gantz, a former--- _ are? this is benny gantz, a former... yes, _ are? this is benny gantz, a former... yes, that - are? this is benny gantz, a former... yes, that is - are? this is benny gantz, a| former... yes, that is right, are? this is benny gantz, a - former... yes, that is right, benny gantz, a member of the unity government know who has stood for by minister before against benjamin netanyahu. he has been involved in various election campaigns. he is a former military figure and he has actually become a very popular figure here in israel over the last few weeks. there are some people have questioned the israeli government's handling of all of this, don't forget separately to this, don't forget separately to this but also important there was a lot of division in israeli society about the israeli government there is a very right—wing israeli government under benjamin netanyahu and some of the political changes they were planning to make. the reason i mention it is because benny gantz has become an extremely popular figure, gantz has become an extremely popularfigure, having stood gantz has become an extremely popular figure, having stood for election before as a party leader with blue and white and not actually getting through. you saw as he walked through the square, huge crowd of people around him. i would suggest because he is now a member of the unity government, that he was brought back in to actually take on a senior role within the government after the october 7th and the fact he is here, lucy, and walking amongst people in the square, he is not saying a great deal at the moment, certainly not anything that we can hear, but the fact he is here, the fact he is walking amongst those crowds and being picked up on the cameras as well suggests, and i can't confirm this for you, but i don't think you he would be having this walkabout in the hostages square amongst the crowds here if the news were not positive. if there was some sort of issue going on at the moment, h, something the israeli government were still dealing with, i think he would be any room with that. killie, just to give you an idea of the geography of where we are in the centre of tel aviv, the kirya isjust behind me and we know benjamin netanyahu, the by minister and yoav gallant, the defence minister are there and being kept in constant contact with what is happening there. we know the israeli media say the hostages are on their way through gaza with the red cross as part of a handover and there in that middle ground where there have been handed over by hamas, to the rafah crossing and then eventually back into israel. ijust want to describe what is happening here because all around this area there are is flags, posters —— israeli flags, posters with people's images on, and you can see where people are coming together, where they are singing together. it is not the first time we have heard singing in the square, which has become known as hostages are square. there have been vigils held here, protests right in the heart of tel aviv and it feels very strongly that people are choosing to come here while they wait for that final confirmation that there was a first at 13 israeli hostages, women and children out of a group of 50, will be hopefully soon back in the hands of the israel defense forces and be reunited as soon as possible, we are told, with their families soon as possible, we are told, with theirfamilies here in israel. soon as possible, we are told, with their families here in israel.- their families here in israel. thank ou so their families here in israel. thank you so much. _ their families here in israel. thank you so much, anna. _

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