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been mediated by qatar, 13 israeli hostages are due to be released later today, with 50 being released over the four days. as part of the agreement, israel will release 150 palestinian prisoners. sir stephen o'brien is a former un under—secretary—general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief coordinator. hejoins me now. tell us what has been happening at the border and how difficult it is been for some of these eight trucks to get through. how long they have been there, how long the jets were. you are in a hot part of the world so it has been a long, arduous time for people to be waiting but there has been plenty of time for assessments by the professionals, not least for the unh wr, to which i used to run, which has been really active in making sure there is a real assessment for the people, particularly in south casa, where they have been gathering to have the humanitarian supplies distributed to them to help them survive and maintain some kind of ability to give them medical help. but maintain some kind of ability to give them medical help. but what i imauine, if give them medical help. but what i imagine, if you're _ give them medical help. but what i imagine, if you're watching - give them medical help. but what i imagine, if you're watching around| imagine, if you're watching around the world and we know how desperately this aid needed, people might be visualising a constant stream of trucks with aid, but that is not happening, is it? it is stream of trucks with aid, but that is not happening, is it?— is not happening, is it? it is to a decree is not happening, is it? it is to a degree because _ is not happening, is it? it is to a degree because they _ is not happening, is it? it is to a degree because they will- is not happening, is it? it is to a degree because they will have i is not happening, is it? it is to a . degree because they will have been lined up waiting outside the rafah crossing, but as part of the deal which the qataris have negotiated, there will have to be strict monitoring because there has to be the assurance that nothing is coming in on those trucks however well they have been supervised with medical supplies, blankets, shelters, fuel, whatever that it doesn't contain other things which, as part of the deal, the israelis are insisting cannot comment to help the hamas terrorists, what they are concerned might happen. that is where the pace will be dictated by the amount of monitoring and making sure that is fully cooperated with in order to keep the flow going. find fully cooperated with in order to keep the flow going.— keep the flow going. and the many checks that — keep the flow going. and the many checks that will _ keep the flow going. and the many checks that will be _ keep the flow going. and the many checks that will be taking - keep the flow going. and the many checks that will be taking place, i keep the flow going. and the many checks that will be taking place, as we can imagine. can i ask you about the hostages?— we can imagine. can i ask you about the hostages? how will that work? as auainst the hostages? how will that work? as a . ainst the the hostages? how will that work? as against the monitoring _ the hostages? how will that work? as against the monitoring of _ the hostages? how will that work? as against the monitoring of the - against the monitoring of the lorries, that primarily works by making sure that the coordination of the transfer of people from wherever they are being held in gaza, through probably intermediaries because you can imagine those holding them will not want to be identified, will they be identified to the international committee of the red cross and red crescent. they will have agreed that there is a point that can be brought to where they will immediately assess if they have severe medical emergency needs or if they are in the position of either being walking wounded or extremely psychologically traumatised. it'll be a very dear —— delicate, careful, professional, and they are extremely experienced in this, and they will have a point at which the supervision of those being transferred will be taken to a border point, which i understand has not been announced, i understand thatis not been announced, i understand that is for security reasons where there will be the ability for them to be assessed again medically, received into in soil where i'm sure there will be a huge amount of adulation, coupled with anxiety, relief and remembering it is only 13 to we are expecting to be transferred today out of the approximately 240 that we understand are held. it will be an eking out and are very carefully monitored process, but will be the red cross are the intermediaries. a traumatic time for those people. the? are the intermediaries. a traumatic time for those people.— time for those people. they are leavin: time for those people. they are leaving peeple _ time for those people. they are leaving people behind, - time for those people. they are leaving people behind, so - time for those people. they are leaving people behind, so that. time for those people. they are i leaving people behind, so that will be very difficult for many of those hostages, i'm sure. the red cross, who out there, or specially trained in this area i imagine. how much detail to be had from the red cross about their involvement. they have made it very clear to us about their independence. made it very clear to us about their independence-— independence. well, they will have been asked — independence. well, they will have been asked as _ independence. well, they will have been asked as part _ independence. well, they will have been asked as part of— independence. well, they will have been asked as part of the - independence. well, they will have | been asked as part of the brokering that i think the qataris do need to be well suited for having achieved. that would have been that the qataris who have been brokers of the deal between israel and the international community and the contacts they have with the hamas terrorists, will have been to ask them to make available their offices, their good services, and will have given them contact points both in terms of people to speak to and where they gather the people and how those transfers will take place so there is no danger of people from opposing sides coming into contact, there has to be that barrier and security because, as you say, we are dealing with people who will be extraordinarily frightened and traumatised. there will be the sense of relief, but at the same time guilt that they're to leave behind their close loved ones, their men folk will be particularly the ones they are leaving behind, and there may be going into a situation which however much their families are looking forward to receiving them back, they may not know who has survived and not survived the terrible events of the 7th of october. they may be facing further 0ctober. they may be facing further trauma as they learned the fates of the people who they were with at the time when they were taken into gaza. it will be extremely important that the red cross, red crescent is very heavily involved because they have people who are really professional, really experienced at understanding how to handle these extremely delicate and traumatised situation. thank you so much forjoining us. with me is the bbc�*s security correspondent frank gardner. we can take your life to the airbase in southern israel. reda elmawy is the bbc arabic correspondant who is at the hatzerim airbase in southern israel, where the released hostages are expected to arrive. we understand that is where the hostages are going to arrive. it is so delicate, it is so fragile, what could possibly go wrong, dare i ask this question?— could possibly go wrong, dare i ask this question? plenty is the answer. a man who — this question? plenty is the answer. a man who helped _ this question? plenty is the answer. a man who helped negotiate - this question? plenty is the answer. a man who helped negotiate the - this question? plenty is the answer. l a man who helped negotiate the 2011 release of an israeli businessman said this is incredibly vulnerable, fragile deal, but it is holding up. it was looking very wobbly yesterday. the problem is there is no trust. these are two bitter enemies, hamas and israel. both have vowed to destroy the other. there is the risk that something could happen between the hostages being moved from their hiding places which are numerous around gaza, and being brought out almost certainly through the southern border into egypt, from where they will be helicoptered into israel. there are elements within gaza who may have an interest in disrupting the steel, he may think it shouldn't have been done in the first place. there are elements on the israeli side he say we shouldn't be doing a deal with people and even calling for the death penalty for those who have been caught already. 0ver those who have been caught already. over the next four days, between now and monday, if all goes well, 50 is and monday, if all goes well, 50 is and joe nat —— dual national hostages will come out of gaza and 150 palestinian prisoners will be released from jails. that still leaves 80% of the hostages in gaza and it doesn't even begin to touch the surface of the wider problem of how on earth israelis and palestinians are going to live side by side in peace. 5m? palestinians are going to live side by side in peace.— by side in peace. stay with us, frank. by side in peace. stay with us, frank- we _ by side in peace. stay with us, frank. we are _ by side in peace. stay with us, frank. we are expected - by side in peace. stay with us, - frank. we are expected expecting please hostages to arrive at the airbase where you are. this military airbase where you are. this military airbase in the _ airbase where you are. this military airbase in the negev _ airbase where you are. this military airbase in the negev desert - airbase where you are. this military airbase in the negev desert in - airbase in the negev desert in southern _ airbase in the negev desert in southern israel, this is where the hostages — southern israel, this is where the hostages will be touching down, four helicopters are supposed to come here with — helicopters are supposed to come here with them and a half, maybe more _ here with them and a half, maybe more. things are subject to last—minute changes. the israeli armym — we have to respect their privacy. maybe _ we have to respect their privacy. maybe after today they will go for further _ maybe after today they will go for further medical tests, may be the family— further medical tests, may be the family will— further medical tests, may be the family will be able to speak to the media _ family will be able to speak to the media it— family will be able to speak to the media if they want. can family will be able to speak to the media if they want.— media if they want. can i ask you more about _ media if they want. can i ask you more about that, _ media if they want. can i ask you more about that, the _ media if they want. can i ask you more about that, the media - media if they want. can i ask you more about that, the media and| media if they want. can i ask you i more about that, the media and the restrictions put on us, what we can film, what access there is going to be during this period that will be made clear by the israelis? the israeli made clear by the israelis? the israeli army _ made clear by the israelis? the israeli army said _ made clear by the israelis? the israeli army said that prior to the release _ israeli army said that prior to the release they should reframe from what _ release they should reframe from what they— release they should reframe from what they say in their words, disseminating any terrorist propaganda. they said that hamas are pursuing _ propaganda. they said that hamas are pursuing our— propaganda. they said that hamas are pursuing our propaganda and a war of words _ pursuing our propaganda and a war of words against the israelis and they said that _ words against the israelis and they said that any information can be working — said that any information can be working against the favour of the hostages — working against the favour of the hostages and the morale of the israeli — hostages and the morale of the israeli public in general. what i know— israeli public in general. what i know is— israeli public in general. what i know is that there is a dedicated space _ know is that there is a dedicated space for— know is that there is a dedicated space for the media in tel aviv for the families if they want to start speaking — the families if they want to start speaking to the media.- speaking to the media. frank, presumably — speaking to the media. frank, presumably the _ speaking to the media. frank, presumably the israeli - speaking to the media. frank, | presumably the israeli military speaking to the media. frank, - presumably the israeli military will do an incredibly thorough debrief, as much as possible, with his hostages. there will be wanting to get as much information from them as possible. get as much information from them as ossible. ., ., ., possible. how will that work? i don't know _ possible. how will that work? i don't know when _ possible. how will that work? i don't know when and _ possible. how will that work? i don't know when and how - possible. how will that work? i don't know when and how they| possible. how will that work? i - don't know when and how they will do it but obviously israeli military intelligence want to know everything they can about the people who have been holding them, describe you have been holding them, describe you have been held, what are the positions like all of these things. one of the sticking points of this steel previously was hamas's insistence that there should be no overflights during this transfer. they didn't want any israeli drones for surveillance aircraft flying over the gaza strip because they don't want to reveal where they have been hiding his hostages. if the deal breaks down, and that is still a possibility, they will be bracing themselves for israeli special forces rescues. i'm old enough to remember a film called the raid on entebbe back in 1970s were israeli special forces, entebbe back in 1970s were israeli specialforces, where entebbe back in 1970s were israeli special forces, where there was a raid in uganda freeing israeli passengers from a hijacked plane by hallas —— by palestinians. they will be braced for that and that is why they are trying to have this entire transfer is done in the upmost sequencing with a minimum amount of surveillance. you are right, there will be an extensive debrief, so beyond the humanitarian bit there will be of direct military and intelligence angle to this. in terms of timings. — intelligence angle to this. in terms of timings, does _ intelligence angle to this. in terms of timings, does it _ intelligence angle to this. in terms of timings, does it seem _ intelligence angle to this. in terms of timings, does it seem like - of timings, does it seem like everything is on track? we think it is not about an hour and 15 minutes before this is meant to happen. yes. before this is meant to happen. yes, i soke to before this is meant to happen. yes, i spoke to a — before this is meant to happen. yes, i spoke to a military _ before this is meant to happen. yes, i spoke to a military -- _ before this is meant to happen. yes, i spoke to a military -- to _ before this is meant to happen. yes, i spoke to a military —— to military ispoke to a military —— to military personnel— i spoke to a military —— to military personnel here and they said it should — personnel here and they said it should be _ personnel here and they said it should be about four o'clock local time, _ should be about four o'clock local time, two — should be about four o'clock local time, two o'clock gmt and they said everything _ time, two o'clock gmt and they said everything is going on schedule, but there _ everything is going on schedule, but there might be last—minute changes. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. cheap street, cheap street. when the call comes in on the radio, they have to be quick. she is chasing after hundreds of pounds worth of designer handbags. i after hundreds of pounds worth of designer handbags.— designer handbags. i managed to catch u- designer handbags. i managed to catch up with _ designer handbags. i managed to catch up with her _ designer handbags. i managed to catch up with her here _ designer handbags. i managed to catch up with her here were - catch up with her here were recovered to a value of about £300. in the house of frasier, they are taking this problem seriously. there is facial recognition _ taking this problem seriously. there is facial recognition on _ taking this problem seriously. there is facial recognition on the - taking this problem seriously. there is facial recognition on the doors. if is facial recognition on the doors. it have _ is facial recognition on the doors. if have committed a crime in the store _ if have committed a crime in the store before, we will get an alert. sam lowes — store before, we will get an alert. sam lowes a lot of the faces to look out for, but sometimes he's even surprised as a security guard. there was a woman _ surprised as a security guard. there was a woman who _ surprised as a security guard. there was a woman who was _ surprised as a security guard. there was a woman who was in _ surprised as a security guard. there was a woman who was in a - surprised as a security guard. there was a woman who was in a hostel . was a woman who was in a hostel because she had been in an abusive relationship and she came in stealing food for her son who was in a pushchair. ifelt bad stealing food for her son who was in a pushchair. i felt bad for her, stealing food for her son who was in a pushchair. ifelt bad for her, i paid for it. you're live with bbc news. the idf has said palestinians will not be allowed to move from south to north gaza during the truce. there are a number of videos circulating on social media that appear to show palestinians being shot at as they try to head from the south of gaza to the north of the strip. in some there are large crowds running from bursts of gunfire. at least one man is reported to have been shot dead and several others seriously wounded. the israeli military has said it is looking into the reports. the israeli military has posted a message on x, formerly known as twitter, to coincide with the start of the ceasefire. it is read in arabic, with english subtitles , and is intended for the civilians in gaza. translation: to the residents of gaza, the war is not over. . the humanitarian pause is temporary. and the northern gaza area is a dangerous war zone, it is forbidden to be there. for your sake and your safety, you have to stay in the humanitarian zone located in the south of gaza. do not head to northern gaza. you can move from the north to the south via the salah al—din road. returning to the north is forbidden and very dangerous. your fate and the fate of your families are in your hands. make the right choice and stay in southern gaza. or move from the north to the south of gaza. consider yourselves warned. joining me now is abubaker abed, a young journalist who is based in deir al balah in gaza. i believe i need to start wishing you a happy birthday. what a strange day to have a birthday, i'm sure. tell me what life is like for you at the moment. tell me what life is like for you at the moment-— the moment. well, i'm really thinkin: the moment. well, i'm really thinking of — the moment. well, i'm really thinking of the _ the moment. well, i'm really thin

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