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i'm anna foster live here in southern israel where we are now four hours into a cease fire in the israel gaza war. it was a shaky start, and there were bombardments up start, and there were bombardments up to the deadline, but it has been peaceful for the last few hours. fighting has stopped, the air strikes have stopped, the sound of small arms fire and mortar fire which has been such a regular feature of life for people in the gaza strip and which i have seen and heard from here in southern israel for now seems to have taken hold, and this is a crucial part of the day ahead. ijust want i just want to take you live now to dublin and we can listen in to the irish deputy prime minister talking about events overnight. i pen; about events overnight. i pay tribute to _ about events overnight. i pay tribute to them _ about events overnight. i pay tribute to them in _ about events overnight. i pay tribute to them in particular, | about events overnight. i v: tribute to them in particular, and indeed to all of the first responders, all of the emergency services. and i would say that this is not who we are as a people, and ireland has built a modern and inclusive society. it is something precious that we should all work to hold, and we understand the need to respect others, the need to respect difference and the need to respect the dignity of every human being. this is something that we should hold precious, and we should collectively as a society come together to recommit to those fundamental values. the fundamental value of decency which has always been the hallmark of irish society. there will be a policing and security response to this, but i think there has to be more than that. i think we have to reflect on the nature of our public discourse, how we engage with each other, the nature of online communications, the hate and bile that can often be seen in such communications, how we relate to each other, how we regard each other, and i think this is something that we as a society and as a whole must also focus on in the days and weeks ahead, and to be very confident in our own sense of values and what hold society together, and thatis and what hold society together, and that is as i said earlier respecting difference and living in harmony together. difference and living in harmony touether. ~ ., ., difference and living in harmony touether. ., ., ., together. what would you say to the eo - le who together. what would you say to the peeple who are _ together. what would you say to the people who are going _ together. what would you say to the people who are going to _ together. what would you say to the people who are going to work- together. what would you say to the people who are going to work this i people who are going to work this morning _ people who are going to work this morning and who feel very unsafe? | morning and who feel very unsafe? i do morning and who feel very unsafe? do have morning and who feel very unsafe? i do have confidence in garda siochana and the garda commission and in the ministerforjustice, and i would say to people generally that the better part of our nature must now show itself. what happened last evening does not reflect in any shape or form the views of the irish people. people have no time for the lawlessness and rioting and attacks on our guard. when you attack busses and shops, you are attacking your own community. you are attacking family and friends. you are attacking workers. one that is the core point we should reflect on here, and that is my view on that. there is a degree of orchestration here, and that is clear. i do think we have to evaluate that. i think we have to look at our intelligence gathering and intelligence services in respect of the degree to which many of these events are now being orchestrated, particularly utilising online platforms in the online world in terms of mobilising people with a degree of rapidity that we would perhaps not have either anticipated or indeed experienced before. i5 perhaps not have either anticipated or indeed experienced before. is it comin: or indeed experienced before. is it coming out — or indeed experienced before. is it coming out of _ or indeed experienced before. is it coming out of far right protest activity. — coming out of far right protest activity, and other government sufficiently examining the build—up of the _ sufficiently examining the build—up of the far_ sufficiently examining the build—up of the far right in ireland? | sufficiently examining the build-up of the far right in ireland?- of the far right in ireland? i think the first point — of the far right in ireland? i think the first point i _ of the far right in ireland? i think the first point i would _ of the far right in ireland? i think the first point i would make - of the far right in ireland? i think the first point i would make is i of the far right in ireland? i think. the first point i would make is that it was absolutely shocking that at the scene of a major crime, that those who were responding to that crime and assembling evidence were literally undermined by first of all the convening of what was billed as a protest but which turned out to be an attack on the garda and the first responders essentially and it is something that cannot be condoned and must be condemned, and the scene of any violet incident must be preserved for those lending assistance or providing assistance, and those investigating. in terms of the broader issue, the challenge has always been in a democratic society to have respect for different perspectives, but certainly as i have said, we have to re—evaluate the degree to which events like this have been orchestrated, and the degree of hate and bile online, and threatening behaviour online, which i think is cutting across the values and a sense of decency that has always been the hallmark of our society and the irish people. i think within, and this is the balance within society, we've always cherished, we are a parliamentary democracy and we cherish the right of people to have opinions and express them. we have to be mindful in terms of how that is communicated. infairness, i in terms of how that is communicated. in fairness, i don't think anyone in the house would condone what happened last evening, but there are far more sinister elements of foot in respect of far right activities, and indeed in terms of the organisation and orchestration and manipulation of people in situations like this. but we as a society, and the vast majority of us just have to assert the fundamental democratic principles of our society, and the fundamental values of our society, which is respect for the dignity of human beings, and we uphold that. as i said, there have been many good moments in ireland in modern times and building a modern, progressive inclusive society, and we cannot let that go, and we have to stand by that. and there are challenges, there will always be challenges in a more dangerous world that we live in today, but we have something precious and we must work to hold and assert it. precious and we must work to hold and assert it— precious and we must work to hold and assert it. there have been a lot of comments _ and assert it. there have been a lot of comments online _ and assert it. there have been a lot of comments online for— and assert it. there have been a lot of comments online for the - and assert it. there have been a lot of comments online for the likes i and assert it. there have been a lot of comments online for the likes of| of comments online for the likes of someone _ of comments online for the likes of someone like conor mcgregor. are you concerned _ someone like conor mcgregor. are you concerned about comments like that from him _ concerned about comments like that from him quite yellow there have been _ from him quite yellow there have been many comments i have watched online _ been many comments i have watched online of— been many comments i have watched online of that type, which are absolutely disgraceful, and we have absolutely disgraceful, and we have a parliamentary democracy. we value that. a parliamentary democracy. we value that the _ a parliamentary democracy. we value that. the irish people do as well, and isolated voices like that and voices— and isolated voices like that and voices that essentially are inciting hate and — voices that essentially are inciting hate and a — voices that essentially are inciting hate and a degree of to some extent incitement _ hate and a degree of to some extent incitement is not acceptable. it was said that _ incitement is not acceptable. it was said that there was no way last night _ said that there was no way last night could have been anticipated. do you _ night could have been anticipated. do you think most people could see the escalations that were going to happen? — the escalations that were going to happen? there were things online saying _ happen? there were things online saying that it was obvious at the early _ saying that it was obvious at the early point in the afternoon. is it acceptable — early point in the afternoon. is it acceptable to say it could not be anticipated?— acceptable to say it could not be anticiated? , . , ., anticipated? ob'ectively looking at it, ithink it anticipated? ob'ectively looking at at, mink it is— anticipated? ob'ectively looking at it, | think it is a— anticipated? objectively looking at it, i think it is a fair— anticipated? objectively looking at it, i think it is a fair assessment. l it, i think it is a fair assessment. first of all we had a horrific, violent attack on children, and adults, and we think of them and we think of the deliveroo person who came along to try to save that for other children, and that is a situation we haven't had a long time in living memory in terms of that on the streets, and then obviously the garda focus is on trying to help those people and seal off the scene of the crime, and again, we will evaluate all of this, but i think objectively i have to say that i don't think people anticipated the level of what transpired last evening, and i think we do have to evaluate all of that, yes. you are listening there to the irish deputy prime minister micheal martin giving his reaction to the shocking events in dublin last night and the violence there, 30 foot rest we heard from the irish police commissioner, 32 people due in court this morning. you have seen the pictures, the extensive damage in dublin city centre which occurred overnight. in about 20 minutes we understand we are going to be hearing from the irish prime minister leo varadkar, and we will bring you that as it happens, but at the moment, honestly a very significant day in israel gaza, and i would like to pass you back now to anna foster to tell us more about the ceasefire which has now been ongoing forjust over a couple of hours. anna. that is right, sarah. four hours now into this ceasefire which had a shaky start at seven o'clock this morning, it was a roundabout 7:15am when the sounds of small arms and mortar fire eventually went quiet, but since then the ceasefire appears to have held very well, and we have also seen humanitarian aid started to move through the rafah crossing from egypt into gaza, and we are also looking ahead to what will happen later today as part of a wider deal between israel and hamas where the first 13 israeli hostages as part that group of 50 will be transferred from gaza back into israel, and then they will be a release of palestinian prisoners who will be held in israeli jails. it is a fast—moving day with a lot of different elements, so let's go straight tojerusalem and speak to our middle east correspondent yolande knell. this is a delicate deal, a fragile deal, and one that has taken many weeks to actually get to this stage. just talk us through exactly what is happening today. yes, so much logistically had to worked out. cat are the key mediators here, with involvement from the us to get to this point —— qatar the key mediators there, and now we can see the lorries going back to back through the rafah crossing, four lorry loads of diesel fuel have already gone into the gaza strip this morning, and at least four lorry loads of cooking gas as well. that is all to be used for un humanitarian programmes, we understand. they will be medical supplies and food that is also going in there as well, about 100 locations, wounded people coming out for treatment through the course of the day, and we have seen ambulances standing by. in the gaza strip itself, a lot of people are on the move. we have seen the pictures of crowds making their way from khan younis in the south out to villages close to the border with israel. people want to see if their homes are still standing, they want to try to retrieve any belongings that they can. more worryingly, we are also hearing that despite an israeli orderfor hearing that despite an israeli order for people who were displaced not to head back from the south of the gaza strip to their homes in the north, some people have been trying to do so. they have broken off trying to use side roads, and we are hearing that several people have been wounded by israeli ground forces opening fire, and we have not really got confirmation of that from the israeli military what is going on. but that was one of the ongoing concerns that this could happen. if things do go to plan, what we expect to see at four o'clock local time, thatis to see at four o'clock local time, that is two o'clock in the uk, we will have these 13 hostages, women and children, handed over to the international committee for the red is inside the gaza strip, and then they will come out through the rafah crossing to be passed to israeli security forces and flown back to israel then for family reunions. within a couple of hours of the hostages being released, we should have the first batch of palestinian women and teenage boys being released from israeli jails. this women and teenage boys being released from israeli jails. released from israeli “ails. as you have explain. h released from israeli jails. as you have explain, yolande _ released from israeli jails. as you have explain, yolande, _ released from israeli jails. as you have explain, yolande, there - released from israeli jails. as you have explain, yolande, there are| released from israeli jails. as you i have explain, yolande, there are so many different moving parts today that even that is not guaranteed, so it might seem a little strange talk about what happens in four days if this all goes to plan, but tell us a little more about the ground that has been laid to potentially release more hostages, more prisoners, and what about the humanitarian uplift? could that continue after the four day period has finished? what could that continue after the four day period has finished? what we understand _ day period has finished? what we understand is _ day period has finished? what we understand is that _ day period has finished? what we understand is that if _ day period has finished? what we understand is that if things - day period has finished? what we understand is that if things go - day period has finished? what we | understand is that if things go well today, this will continue for at least a further three days. that is what the initial plan is built around, hostages to be freed by hamas and the other armed factions holding them inside the gaza strip, but then there is built into this original deal the possibility for an additional day of pausing in the fighting for every additional ten hostages released, and we know that 140 people were taken captive back on the 7th of october, and that day of deadly cross—border attacks by hamas. so qatar has said that it hopes this will really allow for a longer ceasefire to be built. that said, both israel and hamas have made clear that they expect a return to the fighting after this pause. yolande, thank you, that is yolande kneu yolande, thank you, that is yolande knell live from jerusalem with the very latest. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. just to show you these latest live pictures from the border during the ceasefire. there are four pillars in this deal, the ceasefire, the release of israeli hostages and palestinian prisoners but also the humanitarian aid which we have seen really started to flow through the rafah crossing this morning in a way that it hasn't to this kind of scale since the war began back on the 7th of october, and it is something that has been discussed and mediated as part of this deal. we are told that 230 trucks filled with aid will pass through during each of the four days of this deal, carrying everything from the basic items like food and water through to medical supplies, and also we are told eight tankers, four of them with diesel and four of them with cooking gas, have already made their way through to gaza where they will be used by humanitarian organisations to carry on their life—saving work inside the strip. you are alive with bbc news. i'm anna foster here in southern israel overlooking gaza as we are now four hours into a ceasefire as part of a deal to hopefully later today released around 13, we are told, hostages who have been held inside gaza by hamas since this war began in october the 7th, they were taken hostage in the southern israeli communities that i'm talking to from this morning. it is important to say as well israeli authorities believe around 240 people are being held in total, some by hamas, some by palestinian islamichhad, by criminal elements, so the release we are seeing today, while significant and while we hope it goes ahead and we hope it is the largest so far, does not represent all of the prisoners being held by hamas inside gaza, people who were taken prisoner, taken captive here in israel on the 7th of october. and of course for those families it has been an enormously difficult seven weeks dealing with in some cases the loss of relatives who have been murdered or who have been taken hostage, and that group has become incredibly tight, that group of hostages families. we know that they have been supporting each other through that period. let's talk to one of them now. joining me now live from manila in the philippines is ahal besorai. thank you for your time, and tell me about yourfamily thank you for your time, and tell me about your family members. what is happening to them right now? they were all living in the kibbutz when most of these atrocities happen. my dad and my little sister luckily survived. they hid for 13 hours and 24 hours respectively, and then were escorted to safety by the idf. my younger sister then were escorted to safety by the idf. my youngersisterand then were escorted to safety by the idf. my younger sister and her family, her husband and her children, were dragged out of a burning house, an eyewitness saw. we thought they were all hostages in gaza, and then after ten days, they found the body of my sister who was murdered by these hamas terrorist on october the 7th. we waited with the funeral just october the 7th. we waited with the funeraljust to make sure that the others are not also murdered, and once we got confirmation that they are held hostages in gaza, so her husband and two children, one boy is 1615 on the daughter is 13, we had the funeralfor my 1615 on the daughter is 13, we had the funeral for my sister, and hopefully now they are part of this hostage, kidnapped children and women deal, they will be released. we were informed officially that they will not be part of this first tranche of 13 hostages to be released, but we hope that this continues and they will be part of the next tranche. the setting about it is that the two children will be released if the deal goes through as expected, but their dad will stay behind. this is a devastating thing be

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