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the his management. still in gaza, and therell be a delay of at least a day in the agreement between israel and hamas, which would have seen a four—day pause in the fighting. under the agreement, hamas would exchange 50 israeli hostages, taken during the 7th of october attack, for 150 palestinian women and children held in israeli jails. israel says it still expects that to happen, but not before friday, and there will be a similar delay to the temporary halt in hostilities. hamas says there are still details to be finalised regarding the list of people to be exchanged. anna foster is in tel aviv for this was something that we started to hear reports of early this morning. and the israel defence forces have confirmed just in the last hour or so, the arrest of the director of gaza's largest hospital, this is the hospital we have talked about so much, and he has been transferred for questioning by the israeli security agency. this is a joint statement from the israel defence forces and the security agency and it says that it followed evidence, in their that al—shifa hospital, under his direct management, served as a hamas command and control centre. the statement also says that a report shows that a corporal who was one of the hostages taken was murdered on hospital premises and that there was extensive hamas terrorist activity at the hospital. that is what it saysin at the hospital. that is what it says in that statement. also today, here in israel, the uk's foreign secretary lord cameron has arrived in the middle east on his first visit to the region since his return to the government. he has been meeting with leaders to discuss the deal to release hostages and photos of her meeting and shaking hands with the israeli prime minister have been released and shown just in the last hour or so. our middle east correspondent has more from jerusalem on the status of that hostage deal after those delays and, just to warn you, her report does contain some distressing images. the heartache goes on. this was the day some israeli hostage families had hoped to see their loved ones again. but late last night there was news of a delay of at least 2a hours, children are supposed to be among the first israelis freed. hadas kalderon�*s son and daughter were snatched with her ex—husband on the 7th of october. i just want to hug my children, to kiss them, to protect them, to promise them that it will never happen again. that's all i want. i don't care about nothing. because my life has been broken apart. in gaza the wait also continues for a promised four—day truce. without enough food to go around, a pause is meant to allow several hundred more lorries to bring in goods, fuel and medical supplies. but living amid the destruction, some palestinians are wary about any pause in fighting. "what use is this truce? people are being displaced either way. what benefit do we get?" asks omo ramy. "we want a complete ceasefire. we want a truce to stop the bloodshed." for now, fighting in gaza goes on unabated. and hospitals remain a main focus. israel's military showing journalists this well—built tunnel at al—shifa hospital. it says it was used by hamas fighters hiding behind civilians. now a hospital director and other staff have been arrested as israel and hamas continue to accuse each other of war crimes at the site. at this sensitive moment, today lord cameron stepped back into the region. his first stop was at one of the israeli villages worst affected by last month's deadly hamas attacks. i wanted to come here myself to see the horrific nature of the attacks that you suffered on october the 7th. and they are absolutely horrific. the terrorism, parents shot in front of their children, children shot in front of their parents. i've heard things and seen things that obviously i will never forget. as the uk adds its voice to international concerns about the human cost of the war, the fragile deal to bring missing israelis home and some relief for gazans looks increasingly urgent. yolande knell, bbc news, jerusalem. earlier colleagues spoke to a medical director at the indonesian hospital in gaza. this is what he had to say. hi,| hi, iam in the hi, i am in the indonesian hospital with another ten medical professionals. we did this responsibility on our own selves. we will not leave until the last patient gets out. now we have 200 wounded. the situation is very difficult. there is heavy firing targeting the hospital. they targeted water pipes. the injured are in pain. their winter are infected, some of them are in a very bad state. because they didn't have any antibiotics or necessary medications. that is because we have a shortage in medications. we give them only painkillers. there is a shortage in food and drinking water. the situation is difficult and complicated. well, it just gives well, itjust gives you an idea, i think, a sense of what is happening in gaza, particularly with the medical situation, the humanitarian situation because, of course, throughout this conflict we have been looking at what is happening in gaza particularly with the civilian population and also what is happening here in israel as well particularly as that deal to release some of their sausages, which we were expecting to have happened before now, continues to be delayed. —— some of those hostages. tell is a little bit more about where you are right now, and the conversations you've been having with people around you. well, this is a place which is the centre in tel aviv and has been known as hostage square now. it is synonymous with the hostage situation. let me show you a little bit more about what you can see around here. in particular you will have seen some of these things in the background while we have been talking. there are various art installations because were outside the museum of art. the sweep of chairs. each one of these represents a hostage. more than 240 of them who have been taken and held in gaza and similarly, you have this. it is a visually striking image. you can see everyone of these places has been laid representing... some children's faces at the top of the table, you can really see, visually, how much of an impact this has on israeli society. if you welljust of an impact this has on israeli society. if you well just across the square things like the yellow ribbons in trees. things like the posters. you know, the names and faces of those hostages. people here know so well. and even if you move around tel aviv, and as you see the billboards, you see a great big lip things all over the place on the side of buildings was a busy posters and stickers everywhere. you see the hostages. you see their names on their faces hostages. you see their names on theirfaces and their hostages. you see their names on their faces and their families and you hear their stories. and there. really good to see you there. we are just going to keep you there. we are just going to keep you there because we would like to join our guest. joining me now is nour odeh, palestinian political analyst and activist. good to have you with us and bbc news. firstly, can you tell is what is being said that in the west bank about the reason for this delay. we were expecting this pause to start on thursday and the israeli government is very clearly blaming hamas. what is being said that? well, there is very little information about the reason. i think most of the messages that have been said out there by the mediators and also by hamas is that this is a eye running out the last logistical details, the details of how the captives would be released. and i think trying to ensure the public that this is not a major hurdle, that this is not a major hurdle, that it could be overcome and that the ceasefire, the announcement of the ceasefire, the announcement of the ceasefire, the announcement of the ceasefire, which we now think would be made... is imminent. people are holding onto the hope even though as we heard from your reports, the displaced are quite anguished that they won't be able to check on their homes, to retrieve some winter clothing, if they could, if their homes are still standing, but to have a pause in the bombardment, hope that there would be more humanitarian assistance is certainly something to look forward to in gaza now. i'd make as we speak roll so keeping a close eye, as you said, one a press conference and activity happening in doha because as you said the qataris, we are expecting to make some kind of statement shortly. they helped broker the deal, of course. earlier they said the start time is going to be announced within the next few hours. let'sjust listen in. we understand that they are speaking in english at the moment. find understand that they are speaking in english at the moment.— understand that they are speaking in english at the moment. and the first atch of english at the moment. and the first patch of civilians _ english at the moment. and the first patch of civilians to _ english at the moment. and the first patch of civilians to be _ english at the moment. and the first patch of civilians to be released - patch of civilians to be released will be — patch of civilians to be released will be around for pm of the same day. they — will be around for pm of the same day. they will be 13 in number, all women _ day. they will be 13 in number, all women and — day. they will be 13 in number, all women and children and those hostages — women and children and those hostages who are from the same families— hostages who are from the same families will be put together within the same _ families will be put together within the same patch. obviously every day will include _ the same patch. obviously every day will include a number of civilians as agreed — will include a number of civilians as agreed to total 50 within the four days — as agreed to total 50 within the four days. the communications that took place _ four days. the communications that took place in the meeting that took place _ took place in the meeting that took place also — took place in the meeting that took place also yesterday went on until early _ place also yesterday went on until early morning. today with the egyptians present here and ohio, the meetings _ egyptians present here and ohio, the meetings went very well and in a positive — meetings went very well and in a positive environment and the result, of course, _ positive environment and the result, of course, was the plan of the agreement which we have always said needed _ agreement which we have always said needed to— agreement which we have always said needed to be something that is concrete — needed to be something that is concrete and very ready to create a safe environment for the release of the hostages. this is the information i have for you right now and i_ information i have for you right now and i will— information i have for you right now and i will be — information i have for you right now and i will be taking questions. so we arejust so we are just hearing from officials who have been part of the negotiating team. they have just said this truce, they're calling it, gaza, will start on friday at 7am. important news coming to us. the trees will start at 7am and a list of civilians to be released from gaza has been received, they say that the first batch of 13 civilians will be released from gaza on friday. we understand that will happen later in the day, though. let's listen again. same and we have always said our main objective here is safety of the hostages so we cannot disclose the information regarding the roots they will be going through but we will be focusing on making sure that they get there safely to making sure that to our operations that will work with both the red cross and with the parties of the conflict that everybody is getting the information the right way so we can move them safely from one place to another. are you mediating for the release of non-israelis. — are you mediating for the release of non—israelis, specifically— non—israelis, specifically americans. _ non—israelis, specifically americans, and - non—israelis, specifically americans, and other. non—israelis, specifically- americans, and other americans non—israelis, specifically— americans, and other americans on the list? _ americans, and other americans on the list? . ., ., . ., the list? the criteria on which to rioritise the list? the criteria on which to prioritise the _ the list? the criteria on which to prioritise the hostages _ the list? the criteria on which to prioritise the hostages was - the list? the criteria on which to l prioritise the hostages was purely humanitarian, you know. our prime focus _ humanitarian, you know. our prime focus was _ humanitarian, you know. our prime focus was on — humanitarian, you know. our prime focus was on getting the women and children— focus was on getting the women and children out of harm's way as soon as possible — children out of harm's way as soon as possible which is basically what doing _ as possible which is basically what doing within this agreement and we will be _ doing within this agreement and we will be going through, hopefully, the momentum carried by this deal which _ the momentum carried by this deal which would help us get everybody out time _ which would help us get everybody out time and at the same time, of course, _ out time and at the same time, of course, lessen the hardship of the people _ course, lessen the hardship of the neale, ., ., ., course, lessen the hardship of the --eole. ., ., ., ., ., , ., course, lessen the hardship of the n-eole. ., ., ., . . , ., ., people. tomorrow at 7am is going to be the time — people. tomorrow at 7am is going to be the time we _ people. tomorrow at 7am is going to be the time we should _ people. tomorrow at 7am is going to be the time we should also - people. tomorrow at 7am is going to be the time we should also expect i be the time we should also expect aid delivered into gaza? could this be the opportunity to further expand this deal into something bigger that could pave the way for major settlement? ibis could pave the way for ma'or settlement?�* could pave the way for ma'or settlement? . , ., ,, ., settlement? as we talked about, it is a humanitarian _ settlement? as we talked about, it is a humanitarian aid _ settlement? as we talked about, it is a humanitarian aid and _ settlement? as we talked about, it is a humanitarian aid and is - settlement? as we talked about, it is a humanitarian aid and is an - is a humanitarian aid and is an integral— is a humanitarian aid and is an integral part of the steel foot of the aid — integral part of the steel foot of the aid will start going in during the aid will start going in during the will— the aid will start going in during the will start at 7am so we are expecting _ the will start at 7am so we are expecting it to go in as soon as possible from the rafah crossing. the aid _ possible from the rafah crossing. the aid has been there in coordination with the egyptians and all the _ coordination with the egyptians and all the international partner so it is going — all the international partner so it is going to — all the international partner so it is going to be going into the crossing _ is going to be going into the crossing since we have a period of calm _ crossing since we have a period of calm work — crossing since we have a period of calm work of course, the aid workers would _ calm work of course, the aid workers would be _ calm work of course, the aid workers would be saving going on. it will be a fraction _ would be saving going on. it will be a fraction of — would be saving going on. it will be a fraction of the need and gaza. the need _ a fraction of the need and gaza. the need are _ a fraction of the need and gaza. the need are so— a fraction of the need and gaza. the need are so great in gaza that no matter— need are so great in gaza that no matter how — need are so great in gaza that no matter how much aid you're going to bring _ matter how much aid you're going to bring in. _ matter how much aid you're going to bring in, there will be certainly more _ bring in, there will be certainly more need for aid but we are hoping to bring _ more need for aid but we are hoping to bring in— more need for aid but we are hoping to bring in as— more need for aid but we are hoping to bring in as much as possible within— to bring in as much as possible within the _ to bring in as much as possible within the confines of the deal. and, _ within the confines of the deal. and. of— within the confines of the deal. and, of course, ouraim is forthis deal— and, of course, ouraim is forthis deal to— and, of course, ouraim is forthis deal to end — and, of course, ouraim is forthis deal to end with a lasting truce. right _ deal to end with a lasting truce. right now, of course, the confines of this— right now, of course, the confines of this deal— right now, of course, the confines of this deal are subject to a second phase _ of this deal are subject to a second phase and — of this deal are subject to a second phase and a following phase of expanding the pause through the formula — expanding the pause through the formula of getting more hostages out and therefore getting more time. we are hoping _ and therefore getting more time. we are hoping that momentum will carry on that— are hoping that momentum will carry on that we _ are hoping that momentum will carry on that we will find this will open the door— on that we will find this will open the door for further and more deep negotiations towards an end to this violence _ just to remind you of what we have just been hearing, this is a spokesperson for the foreign ministry in qatar are saying that the truce in gaza will start at 7am on friday morning. i have not checked the time difference between katter and gaza industrial so we don't know if that is local time qatari time but 70 m is what they have said. they say a list of the civilians to be released has been received and the first batch of 13 civilians will be released on four o'clock in the afternoon on friday. just waiting to see if he will return to english. anna is also listening in. and possibly will be interrupted to return to this press conference if the foreign ministry spokesperson starts to answer in english again. do you have any guidance as to whether there is a 7am qatari time local time that we think this truce might start tomorrow?— think this truce might start tomorrow? ., ., ., ,, tomorrow? yeah, you are talking about the time _ tomorrow? yeah, you are talking about the time difference. - tomorrow? yeah, you are talking about the time difference. you . tomorrow? yeah, you are talking. about the time difference. you are right, lucy. so the time and katter is an hourahead right, lucy. so the time and katter is an hour ahead of the time ceasefire would begin. the reason it might be qatari time is it was due to start this morning at 10am so there are all sorts of different timescales at the moment but what they seem to say that press conference was that 7am either qatari or israeli time, there is difference in it. that ceasefire would begin and then really a wide period of time. they're talking for pm tomorrow afternoon that the first batch of civilian hostages would be handed over. now, the qatari foreign ministry seems to be saying that israel has already received the list of hostages that would be released. i was talking to the family of family of one of the hostages just a little earlier today and they were saying that, as yet, those who have child hostages in the family, for example, they believe that their children will be among the releases but nobody really knows those names just yet. even the families have no confirmation just yet of who will be relea

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