and the transfer of medication and the visit of the international red cross will then visit everyone, and they've denied that they knew about that. they will, yes. it has been agreed and i expect the red cross to do its job and to visit them all and bring them the medication that they need. among the 50 hostages held by hamas who could be freed — shiri bibas and her two young sons, ariel, who's four and kfir, who isjust nine months. shiri's cousin yiffat has been speaking to the bbc about their potential release. i don't know what kind of children will come back to us. the trauma, what they saw. and... until i see them in my own eyes, i don't believe any lists of names and i don't believe any news coming today from anywhere. i need to see them in my own eyes, i need to hold my cousin in my arms. the deal between israel and hamas does provide for an extension. the four—day pause could be extended by an extra day, for every ten additional hostages that hamas releases. the deal was approved by the israeli cabinet last night — although some on the hard right opposed negotiating with hamas. here's israeli government spokesman eylon levy. releasing terrorists is always a very difficult decision, but we are in a very difficult situation. hamas is holding 240 hostages, including over 30 children. they've been held incommunicado for nearly 50 days by the terrorists who burned, beheaded, butchered, tortured, mutilated, massacred, raped or their way through these people's communities on the 7th of october. we are fearful for their safety, we have an obligation as a country to bring them home safely. in the last month, we've been putting unrelenting military pressure on hamas to agree to release these hostages — now we have a framework to do exactly that, and we're looking forward to seeing them home, then continuing until we bring them all home. as the families of abducted israelis endure an agonising wait to see if it's their loved ones who will be released, expectations are also growing for palestinians in occupied eastjerusalem and the west bank, that their loved ones in israeli prisons could also be coming home. sabri saidam is the deputy secretary general of the fatah central committee, and has served as an adviser to palestinian president mahmoud abbas. let me be honest with you and tell you what would happen if hamas releases all hostages. i would say israel will still continue with the war. netanyahu wants to control gaza. it's clear that he wants to operate in the south as well. despite all warnings that he's receiving, but he is fixated on the idea of eliminating the palestinian presence altogether in the gaza strip. so no matter what happens vis a vis hostages, we will continue to see the continuation of hostilities. you joined me earlier in hearing what the war cabinet has been saying. it's clear that they are comfortable there. they have political cover, they have external cover, american support. so they're continuing regardless of who dies and whom they kill. i think it's about time that, you know, the world reconsiders matters and think twice about the operation. and if you allow me just one last sentence, i would say you cannot fix a problem with the same tools that have caused it. so this has been tried many times, the use of force and has led us nowhere. let's speak to our correspondent tom beaton who is injerusalem. no drone footage over gaza for most of the day, for six hours. and intelligence that that leaves, how have they reasoned that in their conversations with the israeli public tonight? well on that specific point, senior israeli official told the bbc that they have other intelligence gathering measures in relation to the fact that for six hours, at least as far as we understand the agreement, there won't be any surveillance in the skies above gaza. i mean it's one of the constants in gaza, notjust during this war but well before it, is the buzzing of drones. it is a place where you are being constantly watched by the israelis. if you live there. but something that palestinians are extremely use to in the gaza strip, and obviously in this time of war it's been a very critical tool for the israelis in terms of their military operations. so really interesting that for six hours of the day as part of the cease—fire agreement, that the surveillance won't be there. it's thought that that is so hamas is able to manoeuvre itself to get the hostages out from their hiding places to hand over to the red cross, without giving away the locations because obviously it seems they wouldn't have signed up to an agreement if the israeli drones could simply see where the hostages were being brought up from. so that, i think, is quite significant but what the israelis are saying to people here is that they still have other intelligence gathering measures, so effectively people shouldn't be concerned about that. just a quick other point, which the prime minister confirmed tonight, that the icrc will be able to go into see the other hostages who won't be released, which is crucial because we don't really have a full tally yet of who is there and what condition they are in. i tally yet of who is there and what condition they are in.— condition they are in. i have to say, christian, _ condition they are in. i have to say, christian, i— condition they are in. i have to say, christian, i am _ condition they are in. i have to say, christian, i am a - condition they are in. i have to say, christian, i am a bit- condition they are in. i have to - say, christian, i am a bit confused about this. it was always the demand of the israelis that the icrc what should be able to go in, the red cross should be able to go and check on the captives, and deliver medicines. now, we heard mr netanyahu's say that, it was also put to me earlier by another official that they demand that the ic can go in and see these people. he has been suggesting or that it is part of the agreement now, the mediated agreement with qatar that the icrc will be able to go in. i'm not entirely clear that we have that absolutely concerned because obviously that would be significant. it's something that the israelis have always been asking for. but yes, mr netanyahu appeared to suggest that it is now in the deal. at that point, we will have to wait and see what transpires. when it comes to the red cross, generally, you know, for obvious reasons they don't talk about a lot of these things because they have to keep complete neutrality. they always say, for example, they are not part of the negotiations, they are there to facilitate between hostile, parties that have hostilities against each other, to so facilitate only but not be part of the substance of negotiations, it's hard to know what is exactly going on with this one.— with this one. tom, thank you so much for that, _ with this one. tom, thank you so much for that, let's _ with this one. tom, thank you so much for that, let's bring - with this one. tom, thank you so much for that, let's bring in - with this one. tom, thank you so much for that, let's bring in our i much for that, let's bring in our panel tonight. former uk conservative minister, justine greening, and republican strategist and a former communications director for president trump's transition team, bryan lanza. lovely to see you both thank you for saying us tonight. brian, maybe i can start with you. the question here is what happens after the four days, and that very much it rests in hamas' camp. but there are some people who say they can envision a scenario that they start to drip out the hostages may be ten at a time, an extra day here, an extra day, and fairly slowly but surely the israelis could be walked towards a soft cease—fire. that must be playing on the mind of benjamin netanyahu playing on the mind of benjamin neta nyahu after playing on the mind of benjamin netanyahu after the commitments he's given tonight. first netanyahu after the commitments he's given tonight-— given tonight. first of all christian, _ given tonight. first of all christian, think - given tonight. first of all christian, think having i given tonight. first of all. christian, think having me. given tonight. first of all- christian, think having me. that's probably— christian, think having me. that's probably one of the considerations but i think— probably one of the considerations but i think at the end of the day, hamas_ but i think at the end of the day, hamas is— but i think at the end of the day, hamas is going to do what's most beneficial— hamas is going to do what's most beneficial to them and most beneficial to them and most beneficial out of those hostages. so at some _ beneficial out of those hostages. so at some point it becomes a diminishing return. there's a high value _ diminishing return. there's a high value for— diminishing return. there's a high value for women and children, those type of— value for women and children, those type of hostages out. the military men: _ type of hostages out. the military men. they— type of hostages out. the military men, they don't have that much urgency, — men, they don't have that much urgency, they become less value. israeli _ urgency, they become less value. israeli soldiers become more valuable _ israeli soldiers become more valuable in this discussion. i think each _ valuable in this discussion. i think each tier— valuable in this discussion. i think each tier has its own sort of pecking _ each tier has its own sort of pecking order, women and children come _ pecking order, women and children come first— pecking order, women and children come first but i suspect the ones that will— come first but i suspect the ones that will be the most valuable to -et that will be the most valuable to get down — that will be the most valuable to get down our idf forces who were captured — get down our idf forces who were captured in — get down our idf forces who were captured in one of these points. the israelis _ captured in one of these points. the israelis have — captured in one of these points. the israelis have shown in the past that they would — israelis have shown in the past that they would release 1000 palestinian prisoners— they would release 1000 palestinian prisoners for one israeli soldier. just a _ prisoners for one israeli soldier. just a note — prisoners for one israeli soldier. just a note on if this happened tomorrow on thanksgiving, national public holiday there in the united states, happy thanksgiving to you, incidentally. but if it happened tomorrow and some of these dual nationals and this little girl who is three, will be four on friday, both her parents killed. if she comes out, is that a political win forjoe biden? it’s comes out, is that a political win forjoe biden?— forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden. — forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden, it's _ forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden, it's a political- forjoe biden? it's a politicalwin forjoe biden, it's a politicalwin| forjoe biden, it's a politicalwin forjoe biden, it's a politicalwin for humanity. i think there's a lot of investment that you've seen here with the _ of investment that you've seen here with the media in this young girl, i certainly— with the media in this young girl, i certainly have seen the coverage. i look at _ certainly have seen the coverage. i look at my— certainly have seen the coverage. i look at my two—year—old daughter and i look at my two—year—old daughter and i can't _ look at my two—year—old daughter and i can't imagine her being in this ican't imagine her being in this area— i can't imagine her being in this area without her parents, a foreign place _ area without her parents, a foreign place she's— area without her parents, a foreign place. she's captured the hearts of amerleans— place. she's captured the hearts of americans because she's an american, and it's— americans because she's an american, and it's a _ americans because she's an american, and it's a big _ americans because she's an american, and it's a big win forjoe biden. it is hot _ and it's a big win forjoe biden. it is not going — and it's a big win forjoe biden. it is not going to save his other problems— is not going to save his other problems but in the short term, you know, _ problems but in the short term, you know, thanksgiving will be forjoe bideh— know, thanksgiving will be forjoe bideh if— know, thanksgiving will be forjoe biden if she's one of the girls that comes forward. the biden if she's one of the girls that comes forward.— comes forward. the coalition that aid agencies _ comes forward. the coalition that aid agencies warned _ comes forward. the coalition that aid agencies warned in _ comes forward. the coalition that aid agencies warned in a - comes forward. the coalition that aid agencies warned in a briefingl aid agencies warned in a briefing today before the cease—fire announced by the warring parties, left almost no time to provide effective humanitarian relief to the 2.2 million people. the only effective response would be a more durable and permanent end to the work, particularly in the north of the strip to allow anything but cursory really. in an address to the security counsel the head of unicef said because it is now the most dangerous place in the world to be a child. one in 5,300 palestinian children have been reportedly more than 5,300 palestinian children have been reportedly killed in just 46 days. over 115 a day, every day, for weeks and weeks. based on these figures, children account for 40% of the deaths in gaza. this is unprecedented. 300 trucks a day, justine, this is what they're talking about. i did some rudimentary maps yesterday, there should have been around 20,500 trucks growing in over the last six weeks. the usual transport that goes across. i200 weeks. the usual transport that goes across. 1200 is not really going to scratch the surface. it’s across. 1200 is not really going to scratch the surface.— scratch the surface. it's a start, but you're _ scratch the surface. it's a start, but you're right. _ scratch the surface. it's a start, but you're right. the _ scratch the surface. it's a start, but you're right. the way - scratch the surface. it's a start, but you're right. the way the i but you're right. the way the un system works, its got a very tried and tested were approached to be putting in place water and sanitation for people, health care, to assess those needs and then to respond to them. food of course as well, which is a huge issue in gaza. it is notjust the quantity of aid getting in, it's the time people need to get organised and get it to the right people to have the biggest impact. so this is going to be an ongoing issue. there'll be a longer term issue and the psychosocial impact of this huge drama that children on the ground across gaza have gone through in the past six weeks. ., .., . have gone through in the past six weeks. ., _, . ., i. have gone through in the past six weeks. ., . ., i. ., weeks. how concerned are you about what comes — weeks. how concerned are you about what comes after? _ weeks. how concerned are you about what comes after? it _ weeks. how concerned are you about what comes after? it stands - weeks. how concerned are you about what comes after? it stands to - what comes after? it stands to reason that hamas will use this gap to move and regroup, and obviously they are going to move to the south to be among the population. now you've got nearly too many people squeezed into half of the strip. i mean the second half of this conflict could be just horrendous. it could be, and there are these almost three elements of this, isn't there? there is a terrible crisis with the hostages and the people getting caught up in this crisis. there's the military response and then there's what happens after. and how we can get that... that strip of land to be liveable. back in 2015 the un had alreadyjudged gaza to be likely to become unlivable by 2020, simply because of the sheer number of population. it is a very young demographic, and there is a much longer term stability question in there that i don't think anyone is able to yet. hopefully we will see some hostages released tomorrow that might give us a semblance of the fact that we can actually get some agreements between hamas and the israelis. but, you know, it's a very slim bit of hope and what's been a terrible terrible time.— terrible terrible time. there's a blizzard of— terrible terrible time. there's a blizzard of diplomacy _ terrible terrible time. there's a blizzard of diplomacy going - terrible terrible time. there's a blizzard of diplomacy going on | terrible terrible time. there's a i blizzard of diplomacy going on this minute, brian. saudi foreign minister receives a phone call from a us secretary on the gaza truce. president biden has called the egyptian president to thank him for the mediation but on the truce. trying to keep arab partners on side is going to be the biggest challenge for the biden administration. that’s for the biden administration. that's alwa s the for the biden administration. that's always the big _ for the biden administration. that's always the big challenge _ for the biden administration. that's always the big challenge in - for the biden administration. that's always the big challenge in that - always the big challenge in that region — always the big challenge in that region i— always the big challenge in that region. i think that's why, you know. — region. i think that's why, you know, foreign policy issues for any american — know, foreign policy issues for any american president. and i thinkjoe biden— american president. and i thinkjoe biden vou _ american president. and i thinkjoe biden you know, he's probably going to be one _ biden you know, he's probably going to be one of the ones who has the most _ to be one of the ones who has the most experience in foreign policy. thats— most experience in foreign policy. that's the — most experience in foreign policy. that's the biggest argument why he should _ that's the biggest argument why he should be _ that's the biggest argument why he should be president, and we'll see how that _ should be president, and we'll see how that experience plays out. it's a very— how that experience plays out. it's a very challenging time, and in the situation _ a very challenging time, and in the situation could escalate fast, very fast _ situation could escalate fast, very fast. , . . �* .. . fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an e e fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an eye on — fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an eye on events _ fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an eye on events and _ fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an eye on events and of- fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep an eye on events and of course i fast. very fast indeed, we'll keep 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