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within the terms of the agreement, the leader of hamas in gaza, yayha sinwar, has demanded that the air space above gaza is free of israeli and american drones for at least six hours a day. that was initially resisted by the israeli cabinet. we will see whether it forms part of the agreement. hamas is also demanding fuel, crucial to the disperal of aid, but also to their military operations. it helps with the ventilation of the tunnels underground. the un's director of operations isjorge moreira da silva. we see that infrastructure is collapsing. it's collapsing on health, on water, on sanitation, on education. and we know that one key element to recover is the access to fuel. for several years, since 2018, unops has been the agency that has brought the fuel from israel to gaza. so every day we were bringing, procuring and delivering 500,000 litres of fuel. that was fundamental to increase the access to electricity from five hours a day to 12 hours a day. if you check the figures, what has been provided in the last week on fuel, it was around in total, in one week it was 300,000 litres. so it's almost half of what we were bringing every day. if and when it comes, the hospitals that have been clinging on in the north, will have a narrow window to move the most critically injured patients. el shifa says it has between 200—250, including patients with spinal injuries. yesterday, the charity medicins sans frontieres said its clinic in northern gaza was hit, a wall collapsed and part of the building was engulfed in fire. and today, two of its doctors were killed in a strike on al awda hospital, where medical staff are caring for 200 patients. msf uk's executive director is dr natalie roberts. it's one of the last functioning hospitals in northern gaza, and it's become more and more difficult for our teams and all medical staff to provide any form of medical care in northern gaza — notjust because hospitals are systematically attacked and bombed, but also because there's very little fuel or medical supply left. however, this was one of the last that was functioning in some form, and our two doctors were working on the third and fourth floors of the hospital when the hospital came under attack, and they were killed. there are other members of staff who were heavily injured, and there was another doctor killed in the attack. joining me now is lester holloway, the editor of the voice, and former lieutenant governor of florida, jennifer carroll. welcome to you both, thanks for joining us. let me pick up with you, lest are — judging by what prime minister netanyahu is saying, things are moving in the right direction, and you hearfrom are moving in the right direction, and you hear from the are moving in the right direction, and you hearfrom the un are moving in the right direction, and you hear from the un aboutjust how desperately they need this four—day window. how desperately they need this four-day window.— how desperately they need this four-day window. yes, certainly the 've four-day window. yes, certainly they've demanded _ four-day window. yes, certainly they've demanded a _ four-day window. yes, certainly they've demanded a cease-fire, four-day window. yes, certainly - they've demanded a cease-fire, but they've demanded a cease—fire, but they're not so clear about a window. so at the moment, we are really dealing with two different perspectives — the perspective of many of those nations, including joe biden who's been calling for a cease—fire and much of the global south, and the type of rhetoric we've been hearing from benjamin netanyahu and many other actors within the israeli state that seem intent on destroying gaza, with some people even talking about driving them out of gaza altogether. so the question therefore is, so while there seems to be some sort of progress in relation to an exchange of hostages and a brief pause, i think many people will not want to see the huge amount of killing of innocent civilians continue after the pause. it's not simply a case of having a pause between war crimes being committed, it's actually a case of using a cease—fire to have a constructive process to find a lasting solution that will actually deal with, at the end of this conflict, to hopefully prevent future conflicts as well. jennifer, i can imagine — future conflicts as well. jennifer, i can imagine there'll _ future conflicts as well. jennifer, i can imagine there'll be - future conflicts as well. jennifer, i can imagine there'll be some i i can imagine there'll be some relief in washington where some the american hostages could be released today are to might, just ahead of thanksgiving. joe biden has been heavily involved with this but he's been paying heavily the price for supporting israel. what do you think we'll be hearing from jerusalem tonight? i we'll be hearing from jerusalem toniaht? ~ , we'll be hearing from jerusalem toniaht? ~' , ., tonight? i think they are enthusiastic _ tonight? i think they are enthusiastic about - tonight? i think they are enthusiastic about the l tonight? i think they are _ enthusiastic about the conversations occurring _ enthusiastic about the conversations occurring and greater the possibilities of release, even if it's 50, — possibilities of release, even if it's 50, it's— possibilities of release, even if it's 50, it's still better than nothing _ it's 50, it's still better than nothing. and hopefully, the negotiations will go a little bit further— negotiations will go a little bit further to release more, because we have americans and other nationals that are _ have americans and other nationals that are held hostage by the terrorist _ that are held hostage by the terrorist organisation, and if we can come — terrorist organisation, and if we can come to some agreement where these _ can come to some agreement where these family members can find some resolve _ these family members can find some resolve for— these family members can find some resolve for the injured, for the children. — resolve for the injured, for the children, the elderly, to get proper care, _ children, the elderly, to get proper care, it's _ children, the elderly, to get proper care, it's proper work. with us tonight is moshe lavi, a former captain of the israel defense forces whose brother—in—law is a hostage in gaza. thank you very much indeed for coming on the programme. i imagine your feelings coming on the programme. i imagine yourfeelings will be coming on the programme. i imagine your feelings will be mixed tonight. before we talk about who will be released, tell me a bit about your brother—in—law and how he was taken. yes, so my brother—in—law is my sister's wife. he is a therapist, a lovely man, very gentle, soft—spoken, a humanist and spiritual man. 0n soft—spoken, a humanist and spiritual man. on october seven, my sister and two daughters, two and a half and seven years dust two and have they were captured by hamas, tortured and abused, and grouped with another family where one of the daughters was executed by hamas terrorists. and eventually they were separated, and my sister was instructed to stay in the house, a hamas guard kept guarding the house, she was instructed to stay and if she was instructed to stay and if she left, they would shoot her on the spot. luckily before they returned to retrieve my sister and her two daughters, idf soldiers came in and rescued. horse her two daughters, idf soldiers came in and rescued.— in and rescued. how important is it for the in and rescued. how important is it forthe idf— in and rescued. how important is it for the w to _ in and rescued. how important is it for the idf to get _ in and rescued. how important is it for the idf to get a _ in and rescued. how important is it for the idf to get a list of - in and rescued. how important is it for the idf to get a list of names i for the idf to get a list of names and the conditions by those being held in gaza? i and the conditions by those being held in gaza?— held in gaza? i think it is imperative _ held in gaza? i think it is imperative to _ held in gaza? i think it is imperative to receive - held in gaza? i think it is. imperative to receive such held in gaza? i think it is i imperative to receive such a held in gaza? i think it is - imperative to receive such a list, and insist for the icrc or any other neutral organisation to visit the hostages who will remain in the gaza strip, the majority of whom will remain in the gaza strip, after the deal is included and make sure they receive the medical attention they require and any other support under humanitarian law. i met today with the head of the delegation of the icrc to new york, to the united nations, and she and her colleagues emphasise how important it is for them as well to ensure that we receive proof of life, to ensure that they can visit passengers, and also tend to their needs. i talked about the mixed _ also tend to their needs. i talked about the mixed feelings - - also tend to their needs. i talked - about the mixed feelings - among all about the mixed feelings — among all the families, there will be some satisfaction and excitement that maybe 50 people will come out, and that's great. but there'll be lots of other people who are not included, and i guess for the men and those who are linked to the idf, they could be there for some time. yes. i will say that there is a sense of relief that hopefully, 50 hostages will indeed return to israel, some of them are more vulnerable hostages, children and women. but many will be left behind, including my brother—in—law, who is not a soldier. most israeli men held there are not soldiers, and it must be emphasised they are fathers, brothers, grandfathers, sons, and hopefully they will be taken into account. we will not stop calling for their release. all the hostages need to be returned home, and i'm happy that the icrc also shared that stance with the head of hamas yesterday, in doha, where he lives, and hopefully my brother—in—law will eventually be released either through negotiation or another path. but we will still need to grapple with this reality, moving from being hopeful to being in a state of angst and anguish. but this has been our reality for the past six and a half weeks, and sadly it will continue to be our reality even if this deal will be concluded. flan be our reality even if this deal will be concluded.— be our reality even if this deal will be concluded. can i ask you find whether _ will be concluded. can i ask you find whether you _ will be concluded. can i ask you find whether you have - will be concluded. can i ask you find whether you have trust - will be concluded. can i ask you find whether you have trust in l find whether you have trust in the way the israeli government is running this? you'll have no doubt seen the pictures yesterday of the families meeting the war cabinet. there's a lot of frustration and anger that they are not prioritising the hostages, and instead are prioritising the dismantling of hamas. do you think they've got it the right way around?— hamas. do you think they've got it the right way around? look, i'm not a olitical the right way around? look, i'm not a political commentator _ the right way around? look, i'm not a political commentator or - the right way around? look, i'm not a political commentator or a - a political commentator or a military strategist. i think that it's our responsibility, as families of hostages and members of families to be part of that meeting today. and members of the public and the wider democratic countries is to keep putting pressure on elected officials to uphold their responsibilities to their citizens. but it is then the responsibility of elected officials to make these decisions, and they will have to face any consequences eventually of making right or wrong decisions, and will have to face as well the consequences of allowing the horrific 0ctober seven to happen. i hope and want to believe the israeli government, as it's communicated to us in the past, is putting the issue of the hostages as a primary objective, and i call for all stakeholders — and i did in a recent new york times op—ed that i published last week, and it was republished yesterday in print — i call for all stakeholders to continue putting pressure for the release of the hostages as the primary objective. this is a humanitarian plea and call for the israeli government to receive a push from its allies and any other stakeholders. i hope those decision—makers in other countries will make sure to receive that push, to ensure the return all the hostages, men, women and children, including my brother—in—law, henri. as i say to all the families who come on the programme, my thoughts to you and everything you're going through at the moment, thanks for coming on the programme.- through at the moment, thanks for coming on the programme. thanks for aaivin us coming on the programme. thanks for aiavin us a coming on the programme. thanks for giving us a platform. _ coming on the programme. thanks for giving us a platform, have _ coming on the programme. thanks for giving us a platform, have a _ coming on the programme. thanks for giving us a platform, have a good - giving us a platform, have a good evening. irate giving us a platform, have a good evenina. ~ , , ., ,, ., evening. we will speak to the palestinian _ evening. we will speak to the palestinian foreign _ evening. we will speak to the palestinian foreign minister. evening. we will speak to the i palestinian foreign minister who evening. we will speak to the - palestinian foreign minister who is sitting with me in the studio and get his response to everything that is happening. do stay with us, you're watching bbc news. bbc news — bringing you different stories from across the uk. fit and well, back running her own business — emma, from litchfield, is pretty special. last summer, she was paralysed by guillain—barre syndrome, a rare nerve disorder. and when she woke from an induced coma, the doctors had awful news. they said, "it's really unlikely that you'll walk again, "because your nerves in your bottom half of your body "aren't responding." i was absolutely devastated, but i thought, "i am. "i am going to walk again, you're wrong." she was right. thanks to months of physiotherapy and her natural determination, she's regained full movement — but thanks mainly to a daily transfusion of plasma, a component of blood containing 700 proteins. plasma is incredibly valuable. it is liquid gold. it can be used to treat over 50 diseases, and you have the potential to change someone's life, to save lives. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. the palestinian foreign minister, riyad al—maliki, has just arrived in london and joins me now in the studio. very good to talk to you, thank you for coming in, good to see you in person. for coming in, good to see you in aerson. . ~' for coming in, good to see you in aerson. . ~ ,. for coming in, good to see you in erson. ., ~' y., ., for coming in, good to see you in aerson. . , i. ., ., for coming in, good to see you in erson. ., «' y., ., ., you person. thank you for having me. you will be aware — person. thank you for having me. you will be aware of _ person. thank you for having me. you will be aware of the _ person. thank you for having me. you will be aware of the news _ person. thank you for having me. you will be aware of the news coming - person. thank you for having me. you will be aware of the news coming out| will be aware of the news coming out ofjerusalem, the negotiation which is ongoing — can you tell me about the prisoners in israeli jails who will be forming a key part of this negotiation? how many of them are there, how many are women and children, and what accessed as a palestinian authority get to them? first of all, we are very much pleased, like everybody else is, that innocent civilians will be released. being israelis or palestinians, especially women and children, that they have been detained in either israeli prisons or in gaza. i think this is really very important, it really opens up a huge opportunity for further exchange of detainees and prisoners. and this also might allow to talk about a permanent cease—fire that might put an end to this catastrophe forming in front of our own eyes. that may depend on hamas. there are some unconfirmed reports... fin some unconfirmed reports... on israel some unconfirmed reports... on lsraeltoe _ some unconfirmed reports... on israel too. but _ some unconfirmed reports... on israel too. but what _ some unconfirmed reports... on israel too. but what we - some unconfirmed reports... on israel too. but what we are - some unconfirmed reports... on i israel too. but what we are hearing toniaht, israel too. but what we are hearing tonight. and _ israel too. but what we are hearing tonight, and it's _ israel too. but what we are hearing tonight, and it's not _ israel too. but what we are hearing tonight, and it's not confirmed, - israel too. but what we are hearing| tonight, and it's not confirmed, but some are insisting there could be extra days of the cease—fire for the return of more hostages, so it could be in the hands of hamas.— be in the hands of hamas. that's even better _ be in the hands of hamas. that's even better news. _ be in the hands of hamas. that's even better news. we _ be in the hands of hamas. that's even better news. we heard - be in the hands of hamas. that's even better news. we heard that be in the hands of hamas. that's i even better news. we heard that 50 is really detainees would be released in exchange of 300 palestinians imprisoned in israeli prisons. all of them are women and children, and i think this is really good news. if this opens up for an additional release of detainees and prisoners, then why not? i think this will be a good opportunity. i believe it really depends on the willingness of the israeli government, because right now it's in the hands of the israeli government. we know that right now it's been very circulated, this information amongst the israeli cabinet ministers, and they will ask the public if they have any kinds of objection, the 2a hours i will be given to the israeli public, then they'll decide. so right now it's in they'll decide. so right now it's in the hands of the israeli government and israeli public. 50 the hands of the israeli government and israeli public.— and israeli public. so you don't think things — and israeli public. so you don't think things will _ and israeli public. so you don't think things will happen - and israeli public. so you don't think things will happen until l think things will happen until sometime on thursday? thursday to frida is sometime on thursday? thursday to friday is when _ sometime on thursday? thursday to friday is when we _ sometime on thursday? thursday to friday is when we will _ sometime on thursday? thursday to friday is when we will start - sometime on thursday? thursday to friday is when we will start seeing i friday is when we will start seeing the exchange, absolutely. your the foreian the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister _ the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister so _ the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister so i _ the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister so i want - the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister so i want to - the exchange, absolutely. your the foreign minister so i want to get i foreign minister so i want to get some thoughts on the wider issues. the saudis have been meeting with the chinese foreign minister who said that china will fully supports a two state solution, as does president biden. he said he wants to see an empower and strengthen palestinian authority take charge in gaza. are you open to that suggestion?— gaza. are you open to that sua aestion? ., ., ~ ., , ., suggestion? look, the palestinian authority that _ suggestion? look, the palestinian authority that operates _ suggestion? look, the palestinian authority that operates in - suggestion? look, the palestinian authority that operates in the - suggestion? look, the palestinian| authority that operates in the west bank also operates in gaza. the palestinian authority never left gaza, despite the fact that hamas was controlling security in gaza. you know, we operated all ministries, we provided all services, we paid salaries, we paid the electricity bill, water bill to the electricity bill, water bill to the israelis, we appointed teachers and doctors, we brought medicine, medical equipment to the hospitals, we built infrastructures with the support of donor countries, including the uk. and we even issued birth certificates, passports, everything — so we ran the show, and we've been doing that for the last 17 years, since hamas took security over... 50 17 years, since hamas took security over... ,, ., 17 years, since hamas took security over... ., ., ., i. over... so here in london, are you travelling — over... so here in london, are you travelling to _ over... so here in london, are you travelling to people _ over... so here in london, are you travelling to people in _ over... so here in london, are you travelling to people in the - over... so here in london, are you travelling to people in the outside| travelling to people in the outside world to say you can do this? ida. travelling to people in the outside world to say you can do this? no, we have been doing _ world to say you can do this? no, we have been doing that _ world to say you can do this? no, we have been doing that stuff feel - world to say you can do this? no, we have been doing that stuff feel what | have been doing that stuff feel what they are saying is, can you do it alone? ~ ., ,. they are saying is, can you do it alone? ~ ., y., ., they are saying is, can you do it alone? ~ ., ., ., ., ., ., alone? would you have a mandate in a remit from the — alone? would you have a mandate in a remit from the palestinians _ alone? would you have a mandate in a remit from the palestinians in - alone? would you have a mandate in a remit from the palestinians in gaza - remit from the palestinians in gaza to run the whole show? the palestinian _ to run the whole show? ire: palestinian authority to run the whole show? he palestinian authority has to run the whole show? ii9: palestinian authority has a to run the whole show? ii9 palestinian authority has a mandate from the palestinian people, both in gaza and the west bank. and we never left gaza to go back to gaza. we've always been there. we will increase our presence there, in terms of civil servants, we might recruit more people, we might... it sounds to me like — more people, we might... it sounds to me like you're _ more people, we might... it sounds to me like you're saying _ more people, we might... it sounds to me like you're saying yes - to me like you're saying yes you could. flit to me like you're saying yes you could. . ., , to me like you're saying yes you could-_ itaut— to me like you're saying yes you could._ but there - to me like you're saying yes you could._ but there are | could. of course! but there are critics who _ could. of course! but there are critics who point _ could. of course! but there are critics who point to _ could. of course! but there are critics who point to the - could. of course! but there are i critics who point to the corruption within the palestinian authority and the extremely low approval rating that you have among palestinians evenin that you have among palestinians even in the west bank, never mind in gaza, who would say you have no right to be negotiating for the future of palestinians.- right to be negotiating for the future of palestinians. since there is a mandate _ future of palestinians. since there is a mandate for— future of palestinians. since there is a mandate for the _ future of palestinians. since there is a mandate for the palestinian i is a mandate for the palestinian authority to do so, we have no problem. in terms of lower rating, this really is — it happens everywhere, it happens to president biden in the united states, who really enjoys so low rates. it happens to netanyahu, he has so little rates. happens to netanyahu, he has so little rates-— little rates. what would you need from the americans _ little rates. what would you need from the americans to _ little rates. what would you need from the americans to take - little rates. what would you need from the americans to take over| little rates. what would you need l from the americans to take over in gaza? ., ., ~' from the americans to take over in gaza? ., ., 4' ., from the americans to take over in gaza? ., ., ~ ., .,, gaza? look, for the last three decades. _ gaza? look, for the last three decades, israel— gaza? look, for the last three decades, israel and _ gaza? look, for the last three | decades, israel and netanyahu gaza? look, for the last three - decades, israel and netanyahu has been trying to best to weaken the palestinian authority, to prevent the palestinian authority from taking control.— the palestinian authority from takina control. ~ ., ., taking control. would you go further than that and _ taking control. would you go further than that and say _ taking control. would you go further than that and say that _ taking control. would you go further than that and say that he's - taking control. would you go further than that and say that he's been - than that and say that he's been strengthening hamas? flit than that and say that he's been strengthening hamas? of course, eve bod strengthening hamas? of course, everybody knows _ strengthening hamas? of course, everybody knows that! _ strengthening hamas? of course, everybody knows that! if - strengthening hamas? of course, everybody knows that! if there's l strengthening hamas? of course, j everybody knows that! if there's a person in the world who's been financing hamas for the last 17 years, it's netanyahu. if there is a person who was really transporting money to hamas on a monthly basis, it was netanyahu. so if you want to look for a person who is really guilty for encouraging and supporting hamas, then you should really point the netanyahu. the point right now is not really who's really culpable, the point right now is how to put an end to the war, to the aggression, how to achieve and arrive at a cease—fire, and how to provide humanitarian assistance to the people in gaza, how to prevent forcible transfer, how to provide protection to the palestinian civilians in gaza. this for us is the most important issue. i civilians in gaza. this for us is the most important issue. i went to rick u- on the most important issue. i went to pick on on that _ the most important issue. i went to pick up on that issue _ the most important issue. i went to pick up on that issue of _ the most important issue. i went to pick up on that issue of forcible - pick up on that issue of forcible transfer and play you a segment of an interview i did with the former israeli ambassador to the un. have a listen. you wrote an op—ed for the wall streetjournal, i think, on tuesday last week, calling for countries around the world to accept limited numbers of gazan families. you will know how sensitive the issue is, because there are repeated allegations from palestinian and arab countries that israel ultimately is seeking to expel palestinians from gaza. is that the motive behind the statement you made? absolutely not, and i want to open with a colleague of mine _ from the opposition, _ in which it is very clear that only those who choose to leave gaza should have that option. - gaza was not a nice place to live before the war, i it will not be a nicer place after the war. _ and we think the international. community should offer options to those who want to move out. and we said it should be a symbolic number that every country will take j upon itself to help those - palestinians to have a better life. if you want to move to another country, you can do that. - i can do the same — _ why not build that option for some of the people in gaza . who want to move out? so he's not talking about forcible transfer, but he's saying there will be nothing left and palestinians should think about moving elsewhere. look, i don't understand the whole concept, why the palestinians in gaza have to leave their homeland, their country, and to look for refuge somewhere else. why not stay where they are? why are we asking, or should we ask the british people to leave the uk and to look for refuge somewhere else? that's a really stupid idea! i think what we need is how to provide protection to the people, how to provide secure jobs, how to provide them with better education, how to provide better education, how to provide better services, better education, how to provide betterservices, how better education, how to provide better services, how to make them good citizens. this is really what we should be looking for, instead of really thinking about forcing them to leave their country and to be refugees. to leave their country and to be refu a ees. �* to leave their country and to be reraees. �* , ., ., to leave their country and to be reraees. �* , ., . .., , refugees. but you heard the comments from joe refugees. but you heard the comments fromjoe itriden — refugees. but you heard the comments from joe biden in _ refugees. but you heard the comments from joe biden in his _ refugees. but you heard the comments from joe biden in his op-ed _ refugees. but you heard the comments from joe biden in his op-ed this - from joe biden in his op—ed this weekend, he said, "as long as hamas clings to its ideology of destruction, a cease—fire is not peace. to all its members, it's time they exploit to reposition fighters and restart the killing by attacking innocence." there can't be a future for gaza if hamas is hell bent on destruction of israel.— for gaza if hamas is hell bent on destruction of israel. first of all, biden is thinking _ destruction of israel. first of all, biden is thinking of _ destruction of israel. first of all, biden is thinking of hamas - - destruction of israel. first of all, biden is thinking of hamas - but| destruction of israel. first of all, - biden is thinking of hamas - but not biden is thinking of hamas — but not all of gaza is hamas. you have two and a half million palestinians who are not hamas, and we have to think about them. you forgot there are two and a half million palestinians... can hamas be dislodged?- and a half million palestinians... can hamas be dislodged? look, that's be ond the can hamas be dislodged? look, that's beyond the issue. _ can hamas be dislodged? look, that's beyond the issue. it _ can hamas be dislodged? look, that's beyond the issue. it is _ can hamas be dislodged? look, that's beyond the issue. it is the issue. - beyond the issue. it is the issue. it's u- beyond the issue. it is the issue. it's ur to beyond the issue. it is the issue. it's no to the _ beyond the issue. it is the issue. it's up to the palestinian people | beyond the issue. it is the issue. i it's up to the palestinian people to it's up to the palestinian people to decide who will be governing them in gaza or the west bank. that's why we should call for free democratic elections may be within a year or two's time, in orderfor elections may be within a year or two's time, in order for people to choose their representatives. this is really very important. this is the issue. and what is important right now is to provide the best conditions in orderfor right now is to provide the best conditions in order for people to live equally, as many others around the world, and this is really essential... the world, and this is really essential. . ._ the world, and this is really essential... �* .., ., , essential... but those conditions miaht essential... but those conditions might mean _ essential... but those conditions might mean new... _ essential... but those conditions might mean new... is _ essential... but those conditions might mean new... is a - essential... but those conditions might mean new... is a time - essential... but those conditions might mean new... is a time for| might mean new... is a time for mahmoud abbas to step down? it is up to them to decide, _ mahmoud abbas to step down? it is up to them to decide, it's _ mahmoud abbas to step down? it is up to them to decide, it's not _ mahmoud abbas to step down? it is up to them to decide, it's not up - to them to decide, it's not up to you or biden, or netanyahu to decide. you or biden, or netanyahu to decide. , . ., ., , decide. there will be conditions for an election. _ decide. there will be conditions for an election, there's _ decide. there will be conditions for an election, there's nothing - decide. there will be conditions for an election, there's nothing left . decide. there will be conditions for an election, there's nothing left in| an election, there's nothing left in gaza. ii an election, there's nothing left in gaza. :, an election, there's nothing left in gaza. . ., ,, ., gaza. if we are talking about democracy. _ gaza. if we are talking about democracy, then _ gaza. if we are talking about democracy, then it's - gaza. if we are talking about democracy, then it's really l gaza. if we are talking aboutl democracy, then it's really up gaza. if we are talking about - democracy, then it's really up to democracy, then it's really up to the people in palestine to decide, to choose their own representatives... to choose their own representatives. . . to choose their own re-resentatives. .. �* :, , ., representatives... but how will you hold an election _ representatives... but how will you hold an election when _ representatives... but how will you hold an election when there - representatives... but how will you hold an election when there is - hold an election when there is nothing left in northern gaza, when there's 1.6 nothing left in northern gaza, when there's1.6 million people displaced? how do you hold an election in those circumstances? there will have to be something in the interim and something to provide security. the interim and something to provide securi . ~ , , the interim and something to provide securi , , security. absolutely, that's why i didn't say election _ security. absolutely, that's why i didn't say election should - security. absolutely, that's why i didn't say election should be - security. absolutely, that's why i | didn't say election should be held today! that's why i'm talking about rehabilitation, reconstruction, bringing people back, and having a marshall plan where we can to reconstruct the north of gaza, and really try to keep people there. that's really important. when we achieve that collectively, as an international community, is not our responsibility as the palestinian authority, is the responsibility of the international community. the moment we achieve that, than obviously at the end of the road, there will be elections and for the people to decide who will govern them. i people to decide who will govern them. :, people to decide who will govern them. ., ., . them. i have to close it there, foreian them. i have to close it there, foreign minister, _ them. i have to close it there, foreign minister, it's - them. i have to close it there, foreign minister, it's good - them. i have to close it there, foreign minister, it's good to| them. i have to close it there, i foreign minister, it's good to see you, thank you for coming in. foreign minister, it's good to see you, thank you for coming in. thank ou. you, thank you for coming in. thank you- heading _ you, thank you for coming in. thank you- heading to _ you, thank you for coming in. thank you. heading to a _ you, thank you for coming in. thank you. heading to a short _ you, thank you for coming in. thank you. heading to a short break, - you, thank you for coming in. thank you. heading to a short break, we'll be riaht you. heading to a short break, we'll be right back- _ good evening. we've had a lot of dry weather around today, but quite a bit of cloud. even if it's just been high cloud in the north, it's starting to thicken up now, with the skies becoming overcast this evening and overnight in the north, with some rain and some heaviest rain as well across the highlands of scotland, whilst in contrast, showers in the south will clear the winds that we've had all day ease away. so we could see not only some fog around by morning, but some ground frost and some ice on the cars. and you can see the rain does stretch into parts of north wales and northern england. but look at the contrast. temperatures this morning started at freezing in the glens of scotland. much milder to start here tomorrow morning, and for northern ireland, and that's because of the combination of the cloud and the rain and the wind. some strong and gusty winds here tomorrow — 40—16 miles an hour — whilst further south, it's the lack of wind that means we'll start with a little bit of mist and fog. once that clears, it looks brighter and dry for the majority of wales, central and southern parts of england. further north, though, north wales northwards, really, some thicker clouds and drizzly rain, but the most persistent over the highlands of scotland. but it's much milder at 13—14. and that mild weather stays with us through wednesday night. so, too, the rain on our weather front, which starts to meander southwards during the night and into thursday. so behind it, brighter, scattered showers on thursday. to the south of it, any mist clearing and then bright, too. but we do have this line of rather more persistent rain. it's the dividing line between the mild air to the south and that colder air i hinted at earlier to the north. so we're starting to feel the effect of that arctic blast by the end of thursday across scotland. and it will be right the way across the country friday, saturday, to start on sunday, but there's just the hint now that we'll see a temporary low pressure coming in sunday. but a bright, cold, crisp start friday. the showers will be of sleet and snow by the end of the day, even at lower levels in the north, and rain and hail on the coast in the east and it will feel colder. these are the daytime temperatures — much lower than we'll have all week. and add on that strong wind, particularly for scotland and eastern england, that's where we'll see the chilliest—feeling weather. yes, a cold day for all and a cold night following friday night into saturday, with perhaps a few more showers coming onshore near the north sea coasts. a little ridge of high pressure, though, keeping things settled for the start of the weekend. just that area of rain coming into the north on sunday. so still a question mark on the outlook, but certainly a cold snap for most. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. 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