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BBCNEWS BBC July 2, 2024



with starship is lost minutes later. good evening. the hamas—run health authorities say at least 80 people have been killed in two israeli strikes on the jabaliya refugee camp in northern gaza. they say one hit a un—run school — al—fakhoura — that was being used as a shelter. a spokesman for the israeli military told bbc news it was looking into the incident but couldn't say if it had been caused hamas says the second strike was also on a school — tal al—zaatar. it said 32 members of one family were killed, including 19 children. there has been graphic video posted online. bbc verify has geolocated it to al—fakhoura school. the weather conditions in the video match today's forecast and no previous versions of the video have been found online. this is some of that video but much of it is too graphic for us to broadcast. many people, including women and children, are seen with severe injuries or lying motionless on the floor in different parts of the building. many of the casualties were in one room on the ground floor, which also showed signs of considerable damage. also today, hundreds of people have left gaza city's al—shifa hospital on foot. doctors say israeli forces had issued — by loudspeaker — an order to evacuate. the israeli military denies this. it said it had agreed to expand and assist an evacuation, following a request by the hospital's director. we've had these pictures in from central gaza. the newsagency afp says they show palestinians evacuated from al—shifa hospital, heading south, walking down rubble—strewn streets. tanks and bulldozers are close by. some of the people are holding or waving white flags. afp�*s reporter says the crowds included the sick and injured. we don't know how far from the hospital this video was recorded. the reuters news agency also sent these pictures from gaza city. again we're told they are fleeing from al—shifa hospital towards the south. the israeli military says hamas has a command centre in tunnels below al—shifa, something hamas denies. as well as patients and medical staff, large numbers of displaced people were sheltering in the hospital. 0ur middle east correspondent, tom bateman, has more from jerusalem. gaza's biggest hospital, al—shifa. distant booms, glass tinkles a report from the scene said an evacuation of many remaining staff and patients was instructed this morning. the israeli military denies it's ordered people out — calling it a request from the hospital — but saying there is an expanded evacuation. israeli tanks surround the compound. the army claims it is a hamas command centre. it's yet to show evidence of this, but has shown pictures of some weapons it says it found this week. many inside, badly wounded, won't be able to move. a british surgeon who's worked frequently in gaza has had contact with doctors at al—shifa over recent weeks. they are working under the most appallingly hostile conditions. the patients that are being evacuated, it's almost inconceivable to me that they will survive. this notion that they're going to be evacuated to a safe area is a ludicrous notion, if you ask me. the roads are almost impassable. there are no functioning hospitals in gaza at the moment. near another hospital in northern gaza, bodies were gathered from what residents say was heavy israeli bombardment overnight. and in the south, supposedly safer, more scenes of destruction. at least 32 people were killed here in the city of khan younis, say doctors. now israel is warning parts of the city will become a new focus of its war with hamas — telling some of the displaced from the north to move again. people fear more devastation like that of last night. translation: their bodies are in pieces. _ three missiles hit the building. they had nothing to do with the militants and no militants were there — they were all children and girls. aid groups are worried about disease spreading now, with gaza's humanitarian crisis deepening. people wait, desperate for bread. the un says they're facing the immediate possibility of starvation in gaza after the supply chain for aid collapsed. now, to get it moving again, two tankers of fuel a day will enter after us pressure on israel. but relief groups say it's still not enough. meanwhile, there are growing worries about the potential for a security collapse in gaza, with few signs of a plan after the fighting. the americans don't want israeli boots on the ground in the long term. there may have to be a transitional period where security is provided for gaza. that's something that we have to look at. but when it comes to the future of gaza, in ourjudgment, it has to be under palestinian governance. an israeli leaflet drop took place over southern gaza. they offer incentives and protection for information about the hostages held by hamas. in israel, marchers are reaching jerusalem, demanding the return of nearly 240 captives, including children and the elderly. their destination is the office of prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who is under growing pressure. six weeks after the hamas attacks that sparked this war, the bloodshed and uncertainty only intensifies. tom bateman reporting. 0ur correspondent nick beake joined me frm jerusalem. he gave us more detail on that video from al—fakhoura school. there's a man who basically gives a narration, he takes us through this site. and as we move from classroom to classroom, more and more horrors are revealed. as you say, colleagues at bbc verify have been looking at this, and certainly the structure of the building matches previous photographs of the school. the weather at the time is pretty similar in the video as it was this morning, so i don't think it's in doubt that this has occurred. i think it's what's caused it. that's certainly something the idf, they told you they're looking into at the moment. but it is a scene of utter devastation. and you mentioned about the structure or what's left of it. there is, at one point, a very large hole in one wall at the school, but it hasn't collapsed. the structure itself broadly is still there. bbc news has spoken today to unwra representatives who have made contact with their people in gaza. there seems to be some confusion. we spoke to colonel lerner from the idf in the last hour about what the fuel is being used for and how much of it has gone across. the unwra representatives are categoric that they don't have enough to restart their aid operation. the israelis say, "we've sent some". what is the truth here? in terms of the truth, i think that's difficult. but in terms of what's been reported in the past hour or so, the united nations say they do have some supplies of fuel. i mean, previously they've said that they need 160,000 litres of fuel a day to fulfil their obligations, what they're mandated to do, their operations within gaza. what we were told yesterday when the israeli war cabinet said they'd allow in two lorry—loads of fuel every day, apparently that was to carry 60,000 litres, so about a third of what the un say they need on a daily basis. and also, i mean, some charities yesterday saying that this amount — two lorries every day — is certainly not enough to power gaza on a wider level. and it's worth, you know, reiterating that israel says that they're absolutely adamant that this fuel won't fall into the hands of hamas, but it will go towards trying to deal with the sewage system, which has got really big problems at the moment and that has fuelled concerns about the spread of disease. so, yes, fuel has been and continues to be very contentious, a really precious commodity in the midst of this war, in the midst of this conflict. just one issue on the future. in that report that tom sent us, secretary of state antony blinken says the israeli troops may need to be in gaza past a ceasefire if and when that comes. that position has shifted. it's pretty abundantly clear by now that there isn't a plan for what happens next and there isn't a plan as to who will fill the security vacuum, if there was one. that's right. i mean, prime minister benjamin netanyahu was asked about this in an interview he did with american tv a couple of nights ago, and he was making the point that gaza, in his words, doesn't need to be just demilitarised, rid of hamas, but he says also deradicalised. so it's notjust the military infrastructure being taken out, but also the hamas ideology. and within that, i think, yes, there is no clear plan being put forward by the israelis at this point. so in terms of governance of gaza, we don't know. certainly the israelis are saying that the security side of things, that is something they will remain in control of because they don't want hamas or any sort of incarnation of hamas to be able to kill israelis again. so that's their position on that. but yeah, as you say, what comes next, like so much in this conflict, is by no means clear. 0ur our thanks to nick. let's get some response to what has been happening in northern gaza today from the israeli side. lt col peter lerner is a spokesman for the israel defense forces. i asked him about the situation at the schools. i can't confirm that this incident is the idf, but we are seeing the images like you've seen the images on social media and we are looking into it. i can't confirm at this stage that this is idf, but we are looking into it. fair enough. let's talk about the al—shifa hospital. there are conflicting reports today. the director of the hospital says they were ordered by loudspeaker to evacuate. i've seen your statement that says you were responding to an evacuation request. how can you interpret those two contradictory statements? i think we need to listen to what the administrator was speaking. on our statement, we issued a recording of the conversation between our officer and the administration of the hospital that actually says very clearly, "we're asking to leave." so from our perspective, there's no question. you know, we've been encouraging people to leave the hospital premises for many weeks now precisely to get them out of harm's way. we have seen last night again when they approached us and said they would like to leave because of the military presence in the compound, and so we said yes, we would co—ordinate it for the morning and that is what we have been doing since this morning. it's important to get people out of harm's way. and that's what the idf has been trying to do since the beginning of this conflict. it is a huge challenge for any professional military operating in such a hostile environment where terrorists utilise tunnels to come out and launch rpgs and they do it from places like hospitals, like schools, like mosques. wherever they can take advantage of the humanitarian and civilian arena. but clearly some patients cannot be moved, so serious are their injuries. we are told around 120 remain, including premature babies. there are five medical staff. we have spoken to the world health organization in the last hour who say they have no details that the israel defense forces are providing support and medical care to those who are left behind. what can you tell us, because effectively now, given that there has been this evacuation, you are responsible for those patients, are you not? the medical staff, some medical staff, have remained in the hospital to care for those that couldn't go. i can say that over the last few days, and including over last night, we have maintained a flow of supplies, of food supplies, medical supplies, into the hospital to support those that are remaining. of course we have medical personnel also within our forces in order to facilitate if their needs be, but we have not been approached by the hospital staff. but you would lend that support if it was asked for? that is the right thing to do. i can't imagine we would do anything else. just in terms of the operation, you've been there now for three or four days in the complex. we've seen pictures of the weapons that lucy williamson, who you took in, saw in the mri room, we have seen a tunnel on the western perimeter of the complex. you told us before that you had good intelligence there was a command centre beneath this hospital. why is it proving so difficult to show the world the evidence? it's not difficult. itjust...it�*s a timely operation. the situation is that hamas have, for the last 16 years, been building its terrorist infrastructure in, around and beneath hospitals. and what we are doing is being very, very cautious in order not to jeopardise our force security. we don't want to rush into a tunnel that perhaps could be booby—trapped. we are revealing more and more of this infrastructure every day that goes by. we are seeing how deep into the belly of this war machine it goes. once we have a safe access, once we have more visuals, we will of course reveal those to the world. i understand the need and the pressure and the understanding that the media want to see it now, immediately, but the matters of war and operational security and force security sometimes aren't necessarily in sync with the need of the media battle space. this is a challenge that we face. the unrwa communication director has been in touch with her staff in gaza today when communications were finally restored, they say they have recieved no fuel this week to distribute the aid coming across. there is barely enough to pump the water and sewage. who is going to feed the 1.5 million people who are displaced if they are not? actually, i am actually receiving reports of unrwa bringing fuel trucks into gaza in order to be able to distribute food and humanitarian aid. well, they say they have none. she's given us a bbc interview this morning. they saying that they have received no fuel in the past few days in order to be able to restore their operations. that is really concerning, because fuel has gone in under the un banner, so that is concerning what you are saying to me. i will have to look into that. you know, we know that we've been supplying fuel for the un in order for them to enable and conduct theirfood distribution capabilities in the south of gaza. so what you're saying to me is extremely concerning. lieutenant colonel from the idf there. since i did that interview, the idf has put out some information on x, formerly known as twitter, saying, i forces have conducted activities in these areas, including jabalia, and have encountered terrorists and attacked the troops using missiles and anti—tank explosives. 0ur troops eliminated numerous terrorists and struck a large number of terrorist infrastructure. richard makepeace is a former british consul general injerusalem, and is now a trustee of medical aid for palestinians. hejoins me live. thank you very much for being with us. we should start with the events at al—shifa hospital today. we have seen pictures today are people on foot heading south from the hospital area. 120 patients have been left behind, including premature babies. what are your people telling you about the situation in respect of the hospital's? i think the situation across the hospital sector is absolutely desperate. fine situation across the hospital sector is absolutely desperate.— situation across the hospital sector is absolutely desperate. one has to remember that _ is absolutely desperate. one has to remember that the _ is absolutely desperate. one has to remember that the infrastructure . is absolutely desperate. one has to j remember that the infrastructure in gaza has been weak for many, many years and now hospitals are across the board finding it very difficult to provide any serious kind of care, despite the commitment of the professionals. i despite the commitment of the professionals.— professionals. i don't think i'm misquoting — professionals. i don't think i'm misquoting lieutenant - professionals. i don't think i'm misquoting lieutenant colonel| professionals. i don't think i'm - misquoting lieutenant colonel lerner when i say he didn't know for sure what help had been requested or what help was being offered to these five doctors who had been left behind at al—shifa, but as far as you're concerned, is it know the idf who have responsibility for the welfare of the patients have been left behind? richard, are you there? can you hear me? it looks as if that line has frozen. apologies for that. richard makepeace, former british consulate general injerusalem. let's talk about the families of israeli hostages who we are also keenly focused on. they have marched intojerusalem to try to put pressure on the israeli government to secure the hostages�* release. thousands of people joined the march from tel aviv — a 60—kilometre journey that took four days. it ended with a large demonstration outside the residence of the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. one of those marching, yuval haran, had seven family members kidnapped — his mother, sister, her husband and their children — aged eight and three — and a cousin aged 12. he says they need the hostages back now "at any price". joining me now is hannah weisfeld, founder of yachad, a britishjewish organisation that advocates for a resolution to the israeli palestinian conflict. thank you very much for being with us. just explain first of all what your organisation does. we us. just explain first of all what your organisation does.- us. just explain first of all what your organisation does. we are a british jewish — your organisation does. we are a british jewish organisation - your organisation does. we are a british jewish organisation and l your organisation does. we are a| british jewish organisation and we britishjewish organisation and we work within the community here and in parliament to build support for the political resolution to the israel— palestinian conflict, so we are trying to give the voices of the majority of the british jewish community who want an end to this conflict and independent states. you have spoken to many of the families who feel abandoned. the?i have spoken to many of the families who feel abandoned.— who feel abandoned. they are much because they _ who feel abandoned. they are much because they do _ who feel abandoned. they are much because they do not _ who feel abandoned. they are much because they do not feel— who feel abandoned. they are much because they do not feel by - who feel abandoned. they are much j because they do not feel by minister benjamin netanyahu does not have the best interest at heart. what benjamin netanyahu does not have the best interest at heart.— best interest at heart. what has ha--ened best interest at heart. what has happened to — best interest at heart. what has happened to those _ best interest at heart. what has happened to those families - best interest at heart. what has happened to those families as l best interest at heart. what hasj happened to those families as it best interest at heart. what has - happened to those families as it has actually taken weeks for the government of israel to even pay much attention to them, so when those family members were first taken hostage, they actually took the families of the victims to do a press conference —— it took the families of the victims today press conference to get any attention from the government at all and there is a sense amongst those families that there is no political strategy here and that a military strategy does not seem to be one that is considering the outcome for their family members which we assume are somewhere in tunnels under the gaza strip. so really, what they are trying to do by marching is to put those 250 hostages into the centre of the discussions about how this work can be conducted. as things stand, there's almost no clarity that the government is considering their wellbeing and how they move forward with the military campaign in gaza. you will be aware

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