everybody knew him. at manchester cathedral, meanwhile, 1,000 guests, including the fa president, prince william, legendary former united manager sir alex ferguson and a host of other footballing stars past and present arriving for a private memorial service. one of sir bobby's former team—mates paid this tribute. never thought in my dreams as a kid that i'd come through and play for manchester united, but playing with bobby charlton, something special, isn't it? with many more gathering at the end of the funeral procession to show just how much he meant to them, charlton's coffin, accompanied by his family, was carried into the cathedral for a service celebrating a remarkable life. a survivor of the 1958 munich air disaster, over the next decade, charlton reached the very top of the game. world cup winner with england in 1966, european cup winner with united two years later, renowned not only rishi sunak sacks suella braverman and rolls the dice by popping a peerage for the former prime minister david cameron, and making him foreign secretary. what's rishi sunak�*s big electoral idea? he's replaced suella braverman with james cleverly. he's made the cabinet posher and rejected women for the top jobs, so how will this appear to the red wall? the former minister and leader of the house jacob rees—mogg is here to tell us why he thinks the pm has made a big mistake. and the tory mp richard graham — who faced a barrage from colleagues on a tory whatsapp chat when he criticised suella braverman — tells us why the cabinet is better off without her. the only person rishi sunak once to be foreign secretary when he has 350 mps to choose from, so where is this heading? —— wants to be. we'll be joined by the former tory minister ed vaizey, the ft�*s whitehall editor, lucy fisher, and from the daily express, senior political correspondent christian calgie. also tonight... six months after newsnight reported from the ukrainian town of avdiivka, near the front line of donetsk, we bring you exclusive scenes from inside the town, as it fends of russian encirclement — but for how long? translation: this is my home town, i was born in avdiivka. _ translation: this is my home town, i was born in avdiivka. everyday - translation: this is my home town, i was born in avdiivka. everyday i - translation: this is my home town, i was born in avdiivka. everyday i go - was born in avdiivka. everyday i go there, i see fresh destruction. it is painful. the house of my parents where i grew up is completely destroyed. good evening. has rishi sunak finally got the cabinet he would have wanted to take him to the general election? last year, he rewarded suella braverman for backing him for the leadership, but after events of recent weeks, this morning, he threw her out. that, of course, may have been her plan. now she may well step back and regroup, ready to re—emerge after the election. braverman�*s departure and, also, that of therese coffey left rishi sunak exposed on his right flank, but his new front bench includes esther mcvey as cabinet office minister — unofficially, quipped the political editor of the sun, the commonsense minister, to tackle woke across whitehall. so is the signal about tone or political direction? the same five pledges, but less of the muscular language? it's certainly posher at the top of the cabinet, the first time in more than 50 years that the top—fourjobs are all held by former public schoolboys, and the first since 2010 without a woman in any of the top five cabinet posts. also, at least some of the 350 conservative mps could perhaps be forgiven for thinking, didn't david cameron have his day in the sun? and, of course, he was embroiled in the subsequent scandal over greensill. we'll come to the newly—elevated lord cameron's appointment as foreign secretary in a few minutes. first, nick's there. nick, was this the best—kept secret in politics? a tiny atiny number of a tiny number of people knew about this and, yes, they kept quiet about it. the daily telegraph is reporting tonight that rishi sunak and david cameron met last tuesday to discuss this move and i was speaking to a former member of the cabinet who knows both of them very well and this person told me that yes indeed, they did meet last week. what i was also told was it was william hague who played the role of cupid. william hague knows and admires rishi sunak very well because rishi sunak succeeded him as conservative mp for richmond in north yorkshire. william hague great admiration for david cameron, they had a very good report when william hague was his foreign secretary. so what you have todayis foreign secretary. so what you have today is a young prime minister turning to an experienced hand to give gravitas to that cabinet in the run—up to a general election, which is exactly what david cameron did in the run—up to the 2010 election when he called upon ken clarke, when he david cameron was seen as inexperienced. quite a bold move in a very dramatic day. an ex—prime minister is summoned back years after an electoral defeat, to the foreign office. half a century later and this defeated ex—prime minister answers the same call. a surprise appointment which takes david cameron to a job he always coveted and places him back in the spotlight after seven years in the wilderness. cheering failure over brexit ended his premiership. that's why we need another five years... but success a year before, a surprise majority in 2015, after unseating a series of lib dems. a formula rishi sunak is eyeing. right here in downing street, rishi sunak executed a pretty sharp turnaround by handing one of the great offices of state to david cameron, he effectively ripped up the post—brexit consensus for where the conservative party should position itself. all that focus on the brexit voters, all that focus on the red wall and those ex—labour voters who rallied to boris johnson's "get brexit done" message, well, this reshuffle has been defined by the guy who took a different view on that and by the former prime minister who seems to symbolise centre ground conservatism. a big political message, but how consistent is it? politics doesn't work the way it should. we've had 30 years of a political system which incentivises the easy decision, not the right one. just a month ago, rishi sunak trashed as failures his predecessors from all parties over the last 30 years, and he took the axe to one of david cameron's signal projects, hs2. and now, a call to the colours. so, what would this collection of whips say about the return of david cameron, a master stroke or a desperate move? well, i think it's a very positive move. as you well know, nick, in the whip's office, we support the government. but it is interesting, isn't it, that it's just a month ago that the prime minister's conference speech was, "30 years of political failure", and he's now called in the guy who was responsible for a fifth of those 30 years of failure. you're enthused by this. i mean, lots of your mp colleagues from all wings of the party seem to be welcoming the david cameron appointment. absolutely. a minister who resigned today, despite retaining the full confidence of the prime minister, welcomed the appointment. very, very positive news. do you think it's a clever ploy or does it look like it's a bit of a desperate last throw of the dice? he is a man of enormous talent, who will bring another perspective to government. i think it's an inspired move by rishi. is it a bit strange, though, that a month ago, the prime minister said, "30 years of political failure", and he goes for the guy who was responsible for a fifth of those 30 years of failure? people will remember all the positives of david's time as prime minister, of which there were a great many, just as there are a great many positives with what rishi's up to now and he's looking to the long—term. i think it's a great move having david back in. labour were scathing. i think it's shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. i'm not sure it's going to make much of a difference. i have to say that i was surprised that i was surprised that we've got back to the beginning, really, after all these years, seven foreign secretaries, seven years, an unelected prime minister appointing an unelected foreign secretary. there's no consistency in five weeks ago claiming you are the change candidate from 30 years of failure, which include all the four previous conservative prime ministers that you've replaced in an unelected manner, and then suddenly bringing one of them back. i mean, why not liz truss? why not boris johnson? it's a pantomime. the ex and the current, the remainer and the brexiteer, now coming together. a gamble to revive their party's fortunes as the election approaches. all their problems looming on the right of the party? there is deep unease so what they see is no room at the end for suella braverman who has iconic status among brexiteers because she is one of the spartans. just under 30 conservative mps who voted against theresa may's brexit deal at every single vote. but there is room at the end for david cameron, who famously and unsuccessfully led the remain campaign. downing street obviously lost patience with suella braverman after she accused the police of bias in an article that was not fully authorised by downing street. but interestingly tonight, the one minister who publicly criticised her was sacked from the government, paul scully was minister for london until tonight and this is what he told me last week. i think i'd just say to every minister and every political leader, we've got tojust use our language carefully and we've got to make sure that we concentrate on dampening things down, rather than fuelling that sort of hatred and that division. and now the focus is on the right, so andrea jenkyns, a strong brexiteer, she has written a letter of no confidence in the prime minister. but i do have to say the right is divided. so there are very strong suella braverman supporters who are saying that prime minister is going to regret this, but there are others on the right to say that suella braverman lost it with them when she said that living in a tent as a homeless person was a lifestyle choice. i understand there is one pretty significant figure on the right in one of these whatsapp groups who says, suella braverman, that was the end of it for me. talking to other people who say that was the moment when suella braverman really destroyed her credibility. thanks very much. with me now is sirjacob rees—mogg, the former business secretary and also a former leader of the house of commons under boris johnson. thank you forjoining us. this move is all about what rishi sunak must think is the best way to win the election, do you think he is right? well, the king's speech may have been that as well and that is banning pedicab is. so been that as well and that is banning pedicab is.- been that as well and that is banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is — banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is the _ banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is the best _ banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is the best way - banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is the best way to - banning pedicab is. so you don't think this is the best way to win | think this is the best way to win the election?— think this is the best way to win the election? no, i don't think it is. nick makes _ the election? no, i don't think it is. nick makes some _ the election? no, i don't think it is. nick makes some very - the election? no, i don't think it is. nick makes some very fair. the election? no, i don't think it - is. nick makes some very fair points about suella's choice of language which isn't always supported across the party. but in the public mind, she was in favour of controlling migration and being tough on crime and dealing with marches that were intimidating people. the prime minister has now put himself on the side of not controlling migration and not being tough on crime. the conservative prime minister, that is not a good position to be in. in an article for — not a good position to be in. in an article for tomorrow, _ not a good position to be in. in an article for tomorrow, you - not a good position to be in. in an article for tomorrow, you call- not a good position to be in. in an article for tomorrow, you call him to a feat to worry about the things that voters worry about, what do you mean, that is such a strange adjective?— mean, that is such a strange ad'ective? ., ,., _ ., mean, that is such a strange ad'ective? ., , adjective? the reason i say that is because i think _ adjective? the reason i say that is because i think there _ adjective? the reason i say that is because i think there is _ adjective? the reason i say that is because i think there is too - adjective? the reason i say that is because i think there is too much | because i think there is too much concern over suella's precise choice of words that it is too refined and sensitive, she has used words people might have been annoyed by. offended b . it was might have been annoyed by. offended by- it was she — might have been annoyed by. offended by- it was she on _ might have been annoyed by. offended by. it was she on the _ might have been annoyed by. offended by. it was she on the right _ might have been annoyed by. offended by. it was she on the right side - might have been annoyed by. offended by. it was she on the right side of- by. it was she on the right side of the ma'or by. it was she on the right side of the major policy _ by. it was she on the right side of the major policy arguments? - by. it was she on the right side of the major policy arguments? and j by. it was she on the right side ofl the major policy arguments? and i think politicians need to be thick—skinned about choice of language. but thick-skinned about choice of language-— thick-skinned about choice of lanaauae. ., ., ,, ., language. but what does how suella braverman is _ language. but what does how suella braverman is sacked _ language. but what does how suella braverman is sacked mean - language. but what does how suella braverman is sacked mean for- language. but what does how suella braverman is sacked mean for the l braverman is sacked mean for the government tackling immigration? if you are saying rishi sunak is out of touch with the mood on immigration, what does it mean for immigration? it means that we are not going to be tackling legal migration thoroughly which suella is particularly concerned about with 606,000 last year. but it is dropping. legal migration, we will get into the figures on the 23rd of november so we will see about legal migration. illegal migration, the small boats problem, has fallen a little and there will be the judgment on wednesday. but i am concerned that without suella, whichever way the judgment goes, we will still be bound by the article 39 direction of the court which she wanted to overturn and has the legal power to do. james cleverly has said that he is not in favour of resigning from the european convention on human rights. i think there's a distinct watering down on migration. {lin rights. i think there's a distinct watering down on migration. on the james cleverly _ watering down on migration. on the james cleverly point, _ watering down on migration. on the james cleverly point, absolutely, i watering down on migration. on the james cleverly point, absolutely, is| james cleverly point, absolutely, is committed to the echr. does that mean there's a problem with him carrying out the job of home secretary? carrying out the “ob of home secretaryih carrying out the “ob of home secreta ? ., , , ., , secretary? has been appointed with the confidence _ secretary? has been appointed with the confidence of _ secretary? has been appointed with the confidence of the _ secretary? has been appointed with the confidence of the prime - secretary? has been appointed with| the confidence of the prime minister and policy on the echr hasn't yet moved to the state of withdrawing from it. but the act of parliament which was passed earlier this year provides for the home secretary to override article 39. if you are in favour of being in the echr, i would have thought you were unlikely to challenge the court when suella would have been willing to do so. let's look at andrewjenkins's letter of no confidence. enough is enough, time for rishi sunak to go and replace him with a real conservative party leader. do you understand how she could have come to that conclusion? i understand how she could have come to that conclusion?— to that conclusion? i don't agree with her. to that conclusion? i don't agree with her- i _ to that conclusion? i don't agree with her. ithink— to that conclusion? i don't agree with her. i think that _ to that conclusion? i don't agree with her. i think that enough - to that conclusion? i don't agree with her. i think that enough is l with her. i think that enough is enoughin with her. i think that enough is enough in terms of the number of tory leaders in one parliament. i think it is really difficult. 5tick think it is really difficult. stick with what you _ think it is really difficult. stick with what you have _ think it is really difficult. stick with what you have got - think it is really difficult. stick with what you have got whether you like it or not? i with what you have got whether you like it or not?— like it or not? i thought that with boris and like it or not? i thought that with iioris and i _ like it or not? i thought that with boris and i probably _ like it or not? i thought that with boris and i probably came - like it or not? i thought that with boris and i probably came here l like it or not? i thought that with | boris and i probably came here to say so, i did, you question to me on it. ithink say so, i did, you question to me on it. i think we have had a developing idea in the constitution that the mandate is more personal than parliamentary and continually changing leader has been a mistake for the conservative party. let changing leader has been a mistake for the conservative party.- for the conservative party. let me 'ust ask for the conservative party. let me just ask you _ for the conservative party. let me just ask you about _ for the conservative party. let me just ask you about david _ for the conservative party. let me just ask you about david cameron| for the conservative party. let me i just ask you about david cameron for a moment. you are now in a situation where you have essentially an unelected prime minister and an unelected prime minister and an unelected foreign secretary who is not responsible for answering questions in the commons. is that right for the conservative party? it is constitutionally proper. the government speaks with one voice and therefore, any minister however junior answering questions in the commons answers for the government and not as an individual. so i don't think that the house of commons cannot hold the government to account on foreign policy, it can. dietary think david cameron is an extremely able man. and a benefit to the government in many ways —— i actually think. the question really is on suella rather than on david cameron. it is about the trend of policy. cameron. it is about the trend of oli . ., _ ., cameron. it is about the trend of oli . ., _ policy. the trend of policy, do you think that rishi _ policy. the trend of policy, do you think that rishi sunak _ policy. the trend of policy, do you think that rishi sunak is _ policy. the trend of policy, do you think that rishi sunak is in - policy. the trend of policy, do you | think that rishi sunak is in danger? i know you are not in favour of joining a reform party or anything like that, but do you think he is in danger of splitting the tory party? no, i think we are in danger of floating —— of losing votes. i saw richard tice on gb news and he is as happy as can be, he really is, the champagne will be flowing in the reform party headquarters tonight after what has been done today. jacob rees—mogg, thank you for joining us. listening to that, tory mp richard graham. you heard jacob rees—mogg talking in terms of suella braverman using muscular language, but do you think her language was unhelpful? to the cohesion in our communities? you put that in a tweet for i do, that's why i said it. i think the combination of saying things about homeless people intents and talk about hate marches was exactly the opposite of what the real situation is and so in what the real situation is and so “i both cases that wasn't language i could live with comfortably, so that's why i'm afraid, very unusually, and probably the first time in m years, i criticised a cabinet minister publicly. i5 time in 14 years, i criticised a cabinet minister publicly. is this government _ cabinet minister publicly. is this government better _ cabinet minister publicly. is this government better off _ cabinet minister publicly. is this government better off without l cabinet minister publicly. is this - government better off without suella braverman in it? she government better off without suella braverman in it?— braverman in it? she has lots of abilities and _ braverman in it? she has lots of abilities and i _ braverman in it? she has lots of abilities and i admire _ braverman in it? she has lots of abilities and i admire her- braverman in it? she has lots of l abilities and i admire her personal story but i think, in terms of a home secretary who is calm and measured and able to work closely with the police and deal with issues a home secretary stew, we will be well served byjames a home secretary stew, we will be well served by james cleverly. a home secretary stew, we will be well served byjames cleverly. plan, i ask because you ended up in an argument with your colleagues and i wonder if this reshuffle is not going to bridge that divide that up a number of your colleagues are on a whatsapp group that clearly were not agreeing with you for the are whatsapp group that clearly were not agreeing with you for the— agreeing with you for the are we lookin at agreeing with you for the are we looking at a _ agreeing with you for the are we looking at a conservative - agreeing with you for the are we looking at a conservative party i agreeing with you for the are we | looking at a conservative party as agreeing with you for the are we i looking at a conservative party as a party of government or divided? i don't think so because a number of people on that whatsapp criticising with very few, four or five, and much larger numbers of people quietly agreed with me and would be very relieved that we won't now have a polarisation of different views coming from the home secretary. rishi sunak said at the party conference, this is time for change. it's fair to say i don't think this is what he had in mind for the it so much posher cabinet. that might be a backward step, with both an unelected pm, an unelected foreign secretary, had no women in the seniorfivejobs for the is secretary, had no women in the senior five jobs for the is that really the change the party needs? my really the change the party needs? my personal feeling is really the change the party needs? my personalfeeling is most really the change the party needs? my personal feeling is most of my voters want to see the jobs well done they want to see a calm, orderly government focused on solving problems they have in their daily lives. the change is all about looking at various sort of sacred cow issues, like hs2 and saying, actually, when you look at this closely, this doesn't make the best sense in terms of delivering solutions for the north of england. but david cameron, the new foreign secretary, did. he has already at odds with others in the positive step i odds with others in the positive ste ; ., �* ~' odds with others in the positive ste_ .,�* ~ step i don't think that's true. david cameron _ step i don't think that's true. david cameron is _ step i don't think that's true. david cameron is coming i step i don't think that's true. david cameron is coming in l step i don't think that's true. | david cameron is coming in as foreign secretary. that is where it can use his experience. imilli foreign secretary. that is where it can use his experience.— can use his experience. will see successful— can use his experience. will see successful in _ can use his experience. will see successful in his _ can use his experience. will see successful in his position? i- successful in his position? i travelled him abroad when he was prime minister at bit heads of state with them. he is extremely impressive stop he knows a lot of them that he has dealt with any of theseissues them that he has dealt with any of these issues before so he will be able to slot into that role, get up to speed very fast, and i'm sure you'll make a massive contribution. is there not an element of you which then is, my goodness, 360 other conservative mps and not one who would make a good foreign secretary, we had to pull back david cameron customer there are lots of people who might make personally reasonable foreign secretaries but david cameron bring something special, like william hague did when he became foreign secretary for david cameron, and using that depth of knowledge and experience is valuable. the reactions to david cameron's return to government seven years after he left downing street — as a result of his failed gamble on brexit — have been many and various. the former tory leader william hague writes glowingly in the times tomorrow, "cameron's renewed prominence "is a reminder that the cabinet in which he will be sitting "is mainstream and centre—right." whereas the veteran political columnist simonjenkins is of the opinion, in the guardian, that "if the answer to your problem "is david cameron, then you know you are in deep trouble." critics point to the greensill scandal — uncovered by bbc panorama two years ago — revealing internal documents suggesting david cameron made more than £8 million jetting around the world to promote a highly controversial finance business, greensill capital. here'sjoe. thanks, kirsty. it was a dawn raid at downing street, with this arrival, provoking a raft of double—takes. so why is a prime minister who says he wants to change the record reaching for the party's back catalogue? now that's what i call 2016. number 10 says rishi sunak values lord cameron's experience. he has established relationships with world leaders — like presidents biden, xi and putin. he was the pm who set up the national security council and launched 0peration 0rbital which, after the annexation of crimea in 2014, trained 22,000 ukrainian military personnel. now, david cameron's instincts are arguably liberal interventionist. he oversaw british military involvement in libya in 2011, although that attempt at regime change ended with something approaching anarchy. and remember this in 2013? the ayes to the right, 272. the noes to the left, 285. failure to get commons support for intervention in syria after a reported chemical weapons attack. now a different part of the middle east is at the top of the new foreign secretary's intray. but is the uk's current position sustainable? he will realise that as this ground operation goes on, there will be more palestinian civilian casualties and it will get harder and harder to maintain public and international support for what is happening. and it may mean some tough private messages to the israeli government. second will be ukraine, where the ukrainian counter—offensive hasn't achieved what we might have hoped, and i think the fighting will now die down as the ukrainian winter sets in. but the big question here is whether the americans will continue the current levels of military assistance to ukraine, given the growing public opposition to it in america. lord cameron's biggest political baggage is surely brexit. the leader of remain must now fly the flag for post—brexit britain across the world. another change is china. lord cameron was instrumental to the supposed golden age of relations. pictures like this are well and truly a thing of the past. but as recently as last month, he was lobbying in favour of a china—funded sri lankan port, to the frustration of china hawks on the tory benches. even more controversial is david cameron's work for this man, lex greensill, which led to the biggest lobbying scandal ever to involve a former pm. number 10 say the foreign secretary has completed ethics checks for both the house of lords and ministerial office. the last former prime minister to return to cabinet was alec douglas—home. that was during ted heath's government in the �*70s. and lord carrington was the last peer to be foreign secretary — he resigned over the start of the falklands war. there are more recent precedents. peter mandelson and andrew adonis, under gordon brown, and nicky morgan here, under borisjohnson, have all run government departments. but if he's not in the commons, how will mps be able to hold him to account? there will be other mechanisms for scrutiny. so david cameron as foreign secretary will be able to answer questions from the house of lords select committees, he can also answer questions from the house of commons select committee is and you would expect in practical terms, he would be very keen to do that. he will also be supported in his role by other ministers in the foreign office, most of whom will be in the house of commons, and they will be able to pick up some of the parliamentary functions that he would otherwise be exercising. so there will be scrutiny of the foreign secretary, even though he is in the house of lords, but it will look very different from perhaps what we're used to. the commoner prime minister is now lord foreign secretary. george osborne has dubbed it "the return of the king". it is the third act few voters had expected and, as one snap poll tonight suggests, few wanted. joining me now in the studio is former minister for culture under david cameron lord vaizey, lucy fisher — whitehall editor at the financial times, and christian calgie — senior political correspondent at the daily express. lucky to have you all here. lucy fisher, david cameron's appointment, a stroke of genius or a retrograde step? a stroke of genius or a retrograde ste - ? �* , a stroke of genius or a retrograde ste . ? �* , . ., , a stroke of genius or a retrograde ste? h. ., ,~ a stroke of genius or a retrograde step? it's certainly a marmalade dro er. step? it's certainly a marmalade dropper. sucked _ step? it's certainly a marmalade dropper. sucked up _ step? it's certainly a marmalade dropper. sucked up all- step? it's certainly a marmalade dropper. sucked up all the i step? it's certainly a marmalade i dropper. sucked up all the oxygen today, which you assume is of the strategy of the we are not talking is your first question about suella braverman, which is good news for downing street. i have spoken to a number of diplomats from allied nations who said they were surprised by his return but they view him as credible, somebody who will have access on the world stage. a domestic perspective, you can see he be reassuring to tories with voters across the blue wool who are at risk potential of flight to the lib dems, but many questions come up and doubts cast on his appointment as foreign secretary, firstly the idea he'll be doing it from the lords rather than answering to elected representatives, secondly... you rather than answering to elected representatives, secondly. . . representatives, secondly... you can be questioned _ representatives, secondly... you can be questioned by _ representatives, secondly... you can be questioned by select _ representatives, secondly... you can j be questioned by select committees. but not at the dispatch box to tip and huge questions over his activities since the office, the greensill lobbying scandal and his own foreign policy he presided over, the golden era with china and the renegotiation with europe that ultimately ended in brexit. he is now inheriting a prom policy that he'll have to prosecute that is markedly different from the one he pursued in office. it’s markedly different from the one he pursued in office.— pursued in office. it's a big risk because brexit _ pursued in office. it's a big risk because brexit is _ pursued in office. it's a big risk because brexit is still - pursued in office. it's a big risk because brexit is still fresh i pursued in office. it's a big risk because brexit is still fresh in l because brexit is still fresh in peoples minds. i because brexit is still fresh in peoples minds.— because brexit is still fresh in peoples minds. i think there is a limit of risk. _ peoples minds. i think there is a limit of risk. i _ peoples minds. i think there is a limit of risk. i don't _ peoples minds. i think there is a limit of risk. i don't know i peoples minds. i think there is a limit of risk. i don't know what l peoples minds. i think there is a l limit of risk. i don't know what the thinking _ limit of risk. i don't know what the thinking was behind bringing david cameron_ thinking was behind bringing david cameron back into government. i know he would _ cameron back into government. i know he would have loved the chance to serve _ he would have loved the chance to serve as _ he would have loved the chance to serve as foreign secretary to dip we know— serve as foreign secretary to dip we know the _ serve as foreign secretary to dip we know the arguments are taken suella braverman _ know the arguments are taken suella braverman off the front page was part of— braverman off the front page was part of the reshuffle. it's added a statesman—like heir to the cabinet, and we _ statesman—like heir to the cabinet, and we think that rishi sunak only became _ and we think that rishi sunak only became an — and we think that rishi sunak only became an mp in 2015 and his cabinet is not _ became an mp in 2015 and his cabinet is not full— became an mp in 2015 and his cabinet is not full of— became an mp in 2015 and his cabinet is not full of experienced people who have — is not full of experienced people who have served at length in government. i think there will be a role for— government. i think there will be a role for david cameron behind—the—scenes as a kind of mental— behind—the—scenes as a kind of mental for— behind—the—scenes as a kind of mental for rishi sunak. he is not going _ mental for rishi sunak. he is not going to — mental for rishi sunak. he is not going to threaten his position. he is not _ going to threaten his position. he is not a _ going to threaten his position. he is not a leadership rival, but it's also _ is not a leadership rival, but it's also an— is not a leadership rival, but it's also an important signal in terms of the direction of the party, and that's— the direction of the party, and that's what's been debated over the next few_ that's what's been debated over the next few days as a showdown between the right, _ next few days as a showdown between the right, the suella braverman fansi _ the right, the suella braverman fans. and — the right, the suella braverman fans, and the centre of the body, the cameron fence.— fans, and the centre of the body, the cameron fence. picking up the uestion the cameron fence. picking up the question of. _ the cameron fence. picking up the question of, will— the cameron fence. picking up the question of, will it _ the cameron fence. picking up the question of, will it come _ the cameron fence. picking up the question of, will it come back- the cameron fence. picking up the question of, will it come back to i question of, will it come back to haunt rishi sunak? the scrutiny committee after greensill said there was a significant lack ofjudgment. people will be taking that up day after day. it’s people will be taking that up day after da . �* , . people will be taking that up day afterda. �*, ., ., after day. it's an attractive headline. _ after day. it's an attractive headline, but _ after day. it's an attractive headline, but he _ after day. it's an attractive headline, but he has i after day. it's an attractive headline, but he has one | after day. it's an attractive | headline, but he has one of after day. it's an attractive i headline, but he has one of the worst— headline, but he has one of the worst public— headline, but he has one of the worst public opinion _ headline, but he has one of the worst public opinion ratings i headline, but he has one of the worst public opinion ratings of. worst public opinion ratings of anyone, — worst public opinion ratings of anyone, possibly— worst public opinion ratings of anyone, possibly even - worst public opinion ratings of anyone, possibly even worse. worst public opinion ratings of i anyone, possibly even worse than tony— anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, — anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, and _ anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, and as _ anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, and as well— anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, and as well as - anyone, possibly even worse than tony blair, and as well as his i tony blair, and as well as his questionable _ tony blair, and as well as his questionable behaviour- tony blair, and as well as his questionable behaviour sincej tony blair, and as well as his - questionable behaviour since leaving office. _ questionable behaviour since leaving office. his _ questionable behaviour since leaving office, his foreign _ questionable behaviour since leaving office, his foreign policy _ questionable behaviour since leaving office, his foreign policy record i questionable behaviour since leaving office, his foreign policy record is. office, his foreign policy record is quite _ office, his foreign policy record is quite a _ office, his foreign policy record is quite a litany— office, his foreign policy record is quite a litany of— office, his foreign policy record is quite a litany of bad _ office, his foreign policy record is quite a litany of bad failures i quite a litany of bad failures you've — quite a litany of bad failures you've got _ quite a litany of bad failures you've got china, _ quite a litany of bad failures you've got china, europe, . quite a litany of bad failures i you've got china, europe, libya, syria. _ you've got china, europe, libya, syria. lrani _ you've got china, europe, libya, syria, iran, calling— you've got china, europe, libya, syria, iran, calling gaza - you've got china, europe, libya, syria, iran, calling gaza a - you've got china, europe, libya, syria, iran, calling gaza a prison| syria, iran, calling gaza a prison camp— syria, iran, calling gaza a prison canrp in— syria, iran, calling gaza a prison camp in 2010, _ syria, iran, calling gaza a prison camp in 2010, which _ syria, iran, calling gaza a prison camp in 2010, which some i syria, iran, calling gaza a prison| camp in 2010, which some could syria, iran, calling gaza a prison. camp in 2010, which some could be awkward _ camp in 2010, which some could be awkward given _ camp in 2010, which some could be awkward given the _ camp in 2010, which some could be awkward given the current - camp in 2010, which some could be awkward given the current conflict i awkward given the current conflict in israel— awkward given the current conflict in lsrael for— awkward given the current conflict in israel for the _ awkward given the current conflict in israel for the it's— awkward given the current conflict in israel for the it's a _ awkward given the current conflict in israel for the it's a really- awkward given the current conflict in israel for the it's a really odd i in israel for the it's a really odd decision — in israel for the it's a really odd decision. , . ., in israel for the it's a really odd decision. , ., ,, ., , decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party — decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party of _ decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party of the _ decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party of the centre _ decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party of the centre or- decision. lets talk about the party, is it a party of the centre or the i is it a party of the centre or the right, what is it? do you think there is more danger of the participating? is i there is more danger of the participating? is— there is more danger of the participating? i there is more danger of the artici atina ? i ., �* ~' participating? is i don't think the -a will participating? is i don't think the party will split. _ participating? is i don't think the party will split, because - participating? is i don't think the party will 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were on the rise and i in rich's politics, especially when you clip were on the rise and it i you clip were on the rise and it didn't— you clip were on the rise and it didn't happen _ you clip were on the rise and it didn't happen to _ you clip were on the rise and it didn't happen to the _ you clip were on the rise and it didn't happen to the decay i you clip were on the rise and it i didn't happen to the decay question today— didn't happen to the decay question today is— didn't happen to the decay question today is that — didn't happen to the decay question today is that the _ didn't happen to the decay question today is that the right _ didn't happen to the decay question today is that the right have - didn't happen to the decay question today is that the right have lost i today is that the right have lost control, — today is that the right have lost control, the _ today is that the right have lost control, the red _ today is that the right have lost control, the red wall— today is that the right have lost control, the red wall has i today is that the right have lost control, the red wall has been| today is that the right have lost i control, the red wall has been cast aside _ control, the red wall has been cast aside as— control, the red wall has been cast aside as collateral— control, the red wall has been cast aside as collateral damage - control, the red wall has been cast aside as collateral damage at - control, the red wall has been cast aside as collateral damage at the i aside as collateral damage at the next election. _ aside as collateral damage at the next election, and _ aside as collateral damage at the next election, and the _ aside as collateral damage at the next election, and the tories i aside as collateral damage at the next election, and the tories are | next election, and the tories are now focusing _ next election, and the tories are now focusing on _ next election, and the tories are now focusing on winning - next election, and the tories are now focusing on winning the i next election, and the tories are | now focusing on winning the blue wall and — now focusing on winning the blue wall and david _ now focusing on winning the blue wall and david cameron, - now focusing on winning the blue wall and david cameron, for- now focusing on winning the blue j wall and david cameron, for each vote he _ wall and david cameron, for each vote he wins— wall and david cameron, for each vote he wins in— wall and david cameron, for each vote he wins in those _ wall and david cameron, for each vote he wins in those lib - wall and david cameron, for each vote he wins in those lib dem i wall and david cameron, for each i vote he wins in those lib dem facing seatsi _ vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is— vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going — vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going to— vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going to be _ vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going to be losing - vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going to be losing them i vote he wins in those lib dem facing seats, is going to be losing them inl seats, is going to be losing them in the north — seats, is going to be losing them in the north. ~ ., i. ., ,, ., the north. would you take that anal sis the north. would you take that analysis that _ the north. would you take that analysis that the _ the north. would you take that analysis that the danger i the north. would you take that analysis that the danger is i the north. would you take that analysis that the danger is the | the north. would you take that i analysis that the danger is the red wall is being ignored? for analysis that the danger is the red wall is being ignored?— wall is being ignored? for me the bi er wall is being ignored? for me the bigger problem — wall is being ignored? for me the bigger problem is _ wall is being ignored? for me the bigger problem is the _ wall is being ignored? for me the bigger problem is the way - wall is being ignored? for me the bigger problem is the way that i bigger problem is the way that phishing seems to be thrashing around for strategy of we have had reset after reset. six weeks ago as his keynote speech, as labour immediately seized upon, he framed david cameron as part of the failed status quo, so to bring him back as the sensational comeback kid to his cabinet i thinkjust suggests that the ship is listing slightly.- the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely _ the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely be _ the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely be a _ the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely be a lot _ the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely be a lot of- the ship is listing slightly. there is definitely be a lot of hopping l is definitely be a lot of hopping round, — is definitely be a lot of hopping round, which is bizarre and frustrating step i'm a big fan of rishi _ frustrating step i'm a big fan of rishi sunak. he is a details man and technocrat _ rishi sunak. he is a details man and technocrat but he has lacked political _ technocrat but he has lacked political vision and i hope to a certain— political vision and i hope to a certain extent david cameron coming into his _ certain extent david cameron coming into his cabinet and seeing him quite _ into his cabinet and seeing him quite a — into his cabinet and seeing him quite a lot, that will kind of stabilised things and give him a vision — stabilised things and give him a vision i— stabilised things and give him a vision. i think it's important, this blue _ vision. i think it's important, this blue wall— vision. i think it's important, this blue wall and red wall debate you know what tribe i am from, so my messages — know what tribe i am from, so my messages today all about people say, i can messages today all about people say, i can come _ messages today all about people say, i can come back to the conservatives nowi _ i can come back to the conservatives now. i_ i can come back to the conservatives now. i really— i can come back to the conservatives now, i really thought they were going _ now, i really thought they were going off— now, i really thought they were going off the reservation, i was worried, — going off the reservation, i was worried, i— going off the reservation, i was worried, i was to sit on my hands and perhaps— worried, i was to sit on my hands and perhaps not vote i think that was a _ and perhaps not vote i think that was a significant problem. every, for of them _ was a significant problem. every, for of them taking _ was a significant problem. every, for of them taking that _ was a significant problem. every, for of them taking that view... i was a significant problem. every, | for of them taking that view... we haven't even talked about what suella braverman would be doing on the backbenches to dip swell apartment — the backbenches to dip swell apartment on _ the backbenches to dip swell apartment on the _ the backbenches to dip swell apartment on the backbenches is a problem _ apartment on the backbenches is a problem for— apartment on the backbenches is a problem for another— apartment on the backbenches is a problem for another day— apartment on the backbenches is a problem for another day put - apartment on the backbenches is a problem for another day put up i apartment on the backbenches is a i problem for another day put up there is a long _ problem for another day put up there is a longtime — problem for another day put up there is a long time that _ problem for another day put up there is a long time that be _ problem for another day put up there is a long time that be now— problem for another day put up there is a long time that be now the - problem for another day put up there is a long time that be now the next. is a long time that be now the next tory leadership _ is a long time that be now the next tory leadership election _ is a long time that be now the next tory leadership election and - tory leadership election and anything _ tory leadership election and anything could _ tory leadership election and anything could happen. i tory leadership election and anything could happen. on. tory leadership election and i anything could happen. 0n the tory leadership election and - anything could happen. 0n the red wooli _ anything could happen. 0n the red wool. blue — anything could happen. 0n the red wool, blue wall— anything could happen. 0n the red wool, blue wall issue, _ anything could happen. 0n the red wool, blue wall issue, i— anything could happen. 0n the red wool, blue wall issue, i have i anything could happen. 0n the red wool, blue wall issue, i have bluel wool, blue wall issue, i have blue all mp5 _ wool, blue wall issue, i have blue all mp5 are — wool, blue wall issue, i have blue all mps are saying _ wool, blue wall issue, i have blue all mps are saying that _ wool, blue wall issue, i have blue all mps are saying that cameron i wool, blue wall issue, i have bluei all mps are saying that cameron is good _ all mps are saying that cameron is good but _ all mps are saying that cameron is good but not — all mps are saying that cameron is good but not enough _ all mps are saying that cameron is good but not enough because - all mps are saying that cameron is i good but not enough because voters are ready _ good but not enough because voters are ready know _ good but not enough because voters are ready know what _ good but not enough because voters are ready know what this _ good but not enough because votersi are ready know what this government is like. _ are ready know what this government is like. they've — are ready know what this government is like, they've spent _ are ready know what this government is like, they've spent a _ are ready know what this government is like, they've spent a year- is like, they've spent a year talking _ is like, they've spent a year talking about _ is like, they've spent a year talking about small- is like, they've spent a year talking about small boats l is like, they've spent a year. talking about small boats and culture — talking about small boats and culture war _ talking about small boats and culture war issues _ talking about small boats and culture war issues and - talking about small boats and culture war issues and that i talking about small boats and - culture war issues and that turned them _ culture war issues and that turned them off, — culture war issues and that turned them off, and _ culture war issues and that turned them off, and on— culture war issues and that turned them off, and on the _ culture war issues and that turned them off, and on the other- culture war issues and that turned them off, and on the other had i culture war issues and that turned. them off, and on the other had red wall mps_ them off, and on the other had red wall mps who — them off, and on the other had red wall mps who are _ them off, and on the other had red wall mps who are not _ them off, and on the other had red wall mps who are not about - them off, and on the other had redi wall mps who are not about putting letters _ wall mps who are not about putting letters into — wall mps who are not about putting letters into the _ wall mps who are not about putting letters into the match _ wall mps who are not about putting letters into the match 22 _ wall mps who are not about putting i letters into the match 22 committee, like andrea _ letters into the match 22 committee, like andrea jenkyns, _ letters into the match 22 committee, like andrea jenkyns, but _ letters into the match 22 committee, like andrea jenkyns, but they - letters into the match 22 committee, like andrea jenkyns, but they were . like andrea jenkyns, but they were really _ like andrea jenkyns, but they were really upset, — like andrea jenkyns, but they were really upset, because _ like andrea jenkyns, but they were really upset, because this - like andrea jenkyns, but they were really upset, because this is - like andrea jenkyns, but they were really upset, because this is rishii really upset, because this is rishi sunak— really upset, because this is rishi sunak essentially— really upset, because this is rishi sunak essentially telling - really upset, because this is rishi sunak essentially telling a - really upset, because this is rishi sunak essentially telling a large i sunak essentially telling a large part of— sunak essentially telling a large part of his — sunak essentially telling a large part of his party— sunak essentially telling a large part of his party they— sunak essentially telling a large part of his party they no - sunak essentially telling a large part of his party they no longeri part of his party they no longer politically— part of his party they no longer politically matter. _ part of his party they no longer politically matter. [— part of his party they no longer politically matter.— politically matter. i think we haven't heard _ politically matter. i think we haven't heard the _ politically matter. i think we haven't heard the end - politically matter. i think we haven't heard the end of- politically matter. i think we haven't heard the end of it l politically matter. i think we - haven't heard the end of it from the right. do you think they'll be more letters? . ., , right. do you think they'll be more letters? _, , , . letters? there could be, but heard mutterings — letters? there could be, but heard mutterings today _ letters? there could be, but heard mutterings today of _ letters? there could be, but heard mutterings today of the _ letters? there could be, but heard mutterings today of the right - letters? there could be, but heard l mutterings today of the right having great. they have plans for the week. i think we are going to see a test of the numbers that suella braverman has, how much support she can command. we know there are those in the commons, led byjohn hayes, a group on the right, and i think they are going to come out and try and make some noise and particularly on wednesday, if the government, this key rwanda policy is found to be unlawful. let's see how it all plays out. partly, it wasn't her decision. i think— partly, it wasn't her decision. i think we — partly, it wasn't her decision. i think we all— partly, it wasn't her decision. i think we all thought _ partly, it wasn't her decision. i think we all thought she - partly, it wasn't her decision. ii think we all thought she wanted partly, it wasn't her decision. i- think we all thought she wanted to resign— think we all thought she wanted to resign over— think we all thought she wanted to resign over something. _ think we all thought she wanted to resign over something. i— think we all thought she wanted to resign over something. i don't - resign over something. i don't think — resign over something. i don't think will— resign over something. i don't think... wau be _ resign over something. i don't think... will be resigned. - resign over something. i don't think... will be resigned. i- resign over something. i don't . think... will be resigned. i don't think... will be resigned. idon't think— think... will be resigned. i don't think it — think... will be resigned. i don't think it was _ think... will be resigned. i don't think it was this, _ think... will be resigned. i don't think it was this, i— think... will be resigned. i don't think it was this, i think - think... will be resigned. i don't think it was this, i think the - think it was this, i think the reason _ think it was this, i think the reason why— think it was this, i think the reason why rishi _ think it was this, i think the reason why rishi sunak- think it was this, i think the reason why rishi sunak did | think it was this, i think the i reason why rishi sunak did it think it was this, i think the - reason why rishi sunak did it today rather— reason why rishi sunak did it today rather than — reason why rishi sunak did it today rather than waiting _ reason why rishi sunak did it today rather than waiting until— reason why rishi sunak did it today rather than waiting until the - rather than waiting until the judgment _ rather than waiting until the judgment was _ rather than waiting until the judgment was to _ rather than waiting until the judgment was to cut - rather than waiting until the judgment was to cut out - rather than waiting until thej judgment was to cut out the possibility— judgment was to cut out the possibility of _ judgment was to cut out the possibility of her— judgment was to cut out the possibility of her quitting. judgment was to cut out the possibility of her quitting onj judgment was to cut out the - possibility of her quitting on her own terms _ possibility of her quitting on her own terms— possibility of her quitting on her own terms. ., ., ., own terms. you did mention the word technocrat. — own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the _ own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the danger _ own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the danger is _ own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the danger is in _ own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the danger is in all - own terms. you did mention the word technocrat, the danger is in all of - technocrat, the danger is in all of this the year before an election campaign at least, we have a technocrat in rishi sunak and then you have got your friend david cameron coming in, he is a more gifted communicator, he is more relaxed in his skin. it is inevitable that he is going to come much more to the fore then you might be thinking today. i much more to the fore then you might be thinking today.— be thinking today. i don't think it is, ithink be thinking today. i don't think it is, i think david _ be thinking today. i don't think it is, i think david cameron - be thinking today. i don't think it is, i think david cameron is - is, i think david cameron is grateful— is, i think david cameron is grateful for the chance to be the foreign— grateful for the chance to be the foreign secretary. you shouldn't underestimate how frustrating it must _ underestimate how frustrating it must have been for him to be out of power _ must have been for him to be out of power i_ must have been for him to be out of power. i haven't spoken to him about this, but— power. i haven't spoken to him about this, but this— power. i haven't spoken to him about this, but this is what i assume. i think— this, but this is what i assume. i think it's — this, but this is what i assume. i think it's clever enough not to take any shine _ think it's clever enough not to take any shine away from, spotlight away from rishi _ any shine away from, spotlight away from rishi sunak. but i think he will get — from rishi sunak. but i think he will get stuck in. i think you will see, _ will get stuck in. i think you will see, this — will get stuck in. i think you will see, this may sound banal,, but i think— see, this may sound banal,, but i think you — see, this may sound banal,, but i think you will see david cameron at constituency dinners what mps with marginal— constituency dinners what mps with marginal seats and reaching out to be plate _ marginal seats and reaching out to be plate john hayes because he has a very good _ be plate john hayes because he has a very good personal relationship. you are laughing at me. —— reaching out tojohn _ are laughing at me. —— reaching out tojohn hayes. i think the right if they play— tojohn hayes. i think the right if they play the rebels will look quite small _ they play the rebels will look quite small. because rishi sunak is trying to put— small. because rishi sunak is trying to put in— small. because rishi sunak is trying to put in place a cabinet to set a path _ to put in place a cabinet to set a path for the next election. you said ourself path for the next election. you said yourself he has _ path for the next election. you said yourself he has been flailing, he i yourself he has been flailing, he didn't put it like that. but is this in terms of timing the last roll of the dice in terms of how this pre—election cabinet and senior ministers is going to look, lucy? i ministers is going to look, lucy? i think so, the last piece of the jigsaw that could change and there has been so much fevered speculation has been so much fevered speculation has been so much fevered speculation has been around the chancellor. we know we're less than ten days out from the autumn statement so no—one was expecting jeremy hunt to be moved today, there have been lots of briefings from downing street sources in the last few weeks about the fact he was safe until the budget. let's see what happens then. i wouldn't be surprised almost particularly if it looks like sunak and the conservatives are heading for a spell in opposition. it might give him some sort of grim satisfaction to beat labour to the post in appointing the first female chancellor and claire coutinho and stopping rachel reeves claimed that mantle. ., ., , stopping rachel reeves claimed that mantle. .. .. , ., stopping rachel reeves claimed that mantle. .. ., ., stopping rachel reeves claimed that mantle. .. .. , ., .. mantle. how does that look to you? i think there will _ mantle. how does that look to you? i think there will be _ mantle. how does that look to you? i think there will be a _ mantle. how does that look to you? i think there will be a change - mantle. how does that look to you? i think there will be a change which - think there will be a change which isjust_ think there will be a change which isjust ridiculous _ think there will be a change which isjust ridiculous because - think there will be a change which isjust ridiculous because this - think there will be a change which isjust ridiculous because this is l isjust ridiculous because this is the fourth — isjust ridiculous because this is the fourth or— isjust ridiculous because this is the fourth or fifth _ isjust ridiculous because this is the fourth or fifth reshuffle - isjust ridiculous because this is the fourth or fifth reshuffle of l the fourth or fifth reshuffle of rashica — the fourth or fifth reshuffle of rashica make _ the fourth or fifth reshuffle of rashica make you _ the fourth or fifth reshuffle of rashica make you lose - the fourth or fifth reshuffle of rashica make you lose count. the fourth or fifth reshuffle of - rashica make you lose count. rishi sunak— rashica make you lose count. rishi sunak has— rashica make you lose count. rishi sunak has consistently— rashica make you lose count. rishi sunak has consistently proved - sunak has consistently proved himself— sunak has consistently proved himself to _ sunak has consistently proved himself to be _ sunak has consistently proved himself to be a _ sunak has consistently proved himself to be a really - sunak has consistently proved himself to be a really poor- sunak has consistently proved i himself to be a really poor sort sunak has consistently proved . himself to be a really poor sort of person— himself to be a really poor sort of person with — himself to be a really poor sort of person with political— himself to be a really poor sort of person with political instincts - himself to be a really poor sort of person with political instincts —— i person with political instincts —— reshuffle — person with political instincts —— reshuffle of— person with political instincts —— reshuffle of rishi. _ person with political instincts —— reshuffle of rishi. he _ person with political instincts —— reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't i person with political instincts —— i reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't know what he _ reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't know what he believes— reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't know what he believes in, _ reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't know what he believes in, he _ reshuffle of rishi. he doesn't know what he believes in, he makes- what he believes in, he makes decisions _ what he believes in, he makes decisions timewise _ what he believes in, he makes decisions timewise and - what he believes in, he makes decisions timewise and tone . what he believes in, he makes- decisions timewise and tone wise. and he _ decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs _ decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs to— decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs to fix _ decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs to fix it. _ decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs to fix it. and - decisions timewise and tone wise. and he needs to fix it. and if- and he needs to fix it. and if anything _ and he needs to fix it. and if anything comes— and he needs to fix it. and if anything comes out - and he needs to fix it. and if anything comes out of- and he needs to fix it. and if| anything comes out of today, and he needs to fix it. and if. anything comes out of today, i really— anything comes out of today, i really hope _ anything comes out of today, i really hope david _ anything comes out of today, i really hope david cameron- anything comes out of today, i i really hope david cameron fixes anything comes out of today, i - really hope david cameron fixes that for rishi _ really hope david cameron fixes that for rishi. . ~ really hope david cameron fixes that for rishi. ., ,, , .. , really hope david cameron fixes that for rishi. . ~' ,, , . for rishi. thank you very much, we are out in time, _ for rishi. thank you very much, we are out in time, thank— for rishi. thank you very much, we are out in time, thank you - for rishi. thank you very much, we are out in time, thank you very - for rishi. thank you very much, we i are out in time, thank you very much indeed. —— out of time. the situation in the middle east has shifted the focus from ukraine. as the country prepares for the winter, russia is continuing its offensive in donbas. for over a month now, ukraine has been defending itself against repeated russian attacks on the town of avdiivka, which russia has been attempting to encircle — unsuccessfully, for now. this morning, according to local authorities, avdiivka came under renewed russian bombardment. against all odds, the town retains its reputation as a stronghold just beyond occupied donetsk, but some fear that soon, it will follow the same fate as bakhmut. jack losh, whose report from avdiivka we showed in the spring, has been speaking with some of the locals he met back in may to see how are they doing now, and what this winter could bring for the ukrainian eastern flank. with global attention turned to the middle east, russia has launched a new ground offensive in eastern ukraine. this couple have endured almost two years of full—scale fighting... ..but this new assault is the final straw. they're leaving. others are less keen to go. gennadiy yudin is a policeman. hisjob now — evacuating civilians. these evacuations are taking place around avdiivka, an industrial hub that has become a symbol of ukrainian resistance. six months ago, newsnight reported from inside this bombed—out ukrainian town, travelling in with igor, a local man, as he ran in aid supplies for the civilian population. it was ea rly—summer. ukraine's counter—offensive was imminent. hopes were high. six months on, that picture is very different. a stalling ukrainian campaign, the world's gaze turned to the middle east, and a new russian assault aimed at finally encircling avdiivka — a defensive stronghold and gateway to the occupied east. ihor�*s had a ringside seat. this russian kamikaze drone had him in its sights, and that's ihor�*s van down below. the attack on ihor last month came as moscow launched its new offensive against avdiivka. russian tanks and waves of troops were deployed to surround the town. air strikes and artillery pounded already devastated residential areas, where some 1,500 civilians still remain. gennadiy the policeman's seen it all. so far, the ukrainians have repelled these assaults, inflicting huge losses on russia's soldiers. almost 7,000 killed or wounded, claims ukraine's military. whatever the figure — and that one is unverified — the uk's ministry of defence says these are among russia's biggest casualty rates of the war. the russians only managed to advance the north flank a little bit above 1.5 kilometres and at tremendous expense of manpower and vehicles. i suspect that the ukrainians will be able to hold out

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