takes a look at her political uk should leave the european convention on human rights. the prime minister rishi sunak may have career. some sympathy with that view. if the she's the daughter of migrants government loses on wednesday, i who put taking a tough line think suella braverman from the on immigration at the centre of her agenda as home secretary. backbenches now would certainly make suella braverman inherited that point and i think it will be the government's flagship policy of sending illegal arrivals to rwanda but it's one interesting to see if that situation she wholeheartedly embraced. does arise how downing street responds. since how could that change, that policy? it she was also a leading voice, since how could that change, that oli ? ., �* . ., ., pushing for curbs on all migration since how could that change, that oli ? . ., ., ., policy? it won't change at all, the cabinet entirely _ policy? it won't change at all, the cabinet entirely agreed _ and was prepared to say bluntly policy? it won't change at all, the cabinet entirely agreed that - policy? it won't change at all, the cabinet entirely agreed that the l cabinet entirely agreed that the what she believed. policy is the right one. it has where individuals are being persecuted, it is right obviously been through a long and that we offer sanctuary. but we will not be able to sustain complicated legal process, huge an asylum system if, in effect, frustration in government over that. simply being gay or a woman they are convinced that the only way or fearful of discrimination in your country of origin, is sufficient to really deal with the criminal to qualify for protection. originally given the job gangs bringing people across the of home secretary by liz truss, six weeks later, ms braverman channel and to deal with the problem was out of the picture. she'd broken the ministerial code is, as they would describe it, by e—mailing a document to someone uncontrolled illegal migration, is who shouldn't have seen it and she resigned. to introduce a radical change to the asylum system. the question i think when the new prime minister rishi sunak reappointed herjust a week later, it was controversial. was his home secretary really is how much will the law right to resign last week for a breach of security? still prevent them doing what they the home secretary made an error. want to do, which is to send ofjudgment but she recognised that, hundreds, if not thousands, of she raised the matter- asylum seekers to rwanda? although and she accepted her mistake. the government, even if it were to ms braverman stayed, popular with the right of the party, win on wednesday on the central but there were increasing concerns argument, if you like, which is that about her choice of language. rwanda is a safe third country, that it is ok to send asylum seekers too, we have also seen the courts and the across the globe in the 20th century was a mere gust garment has accepted this, support compared to the hurricane individuals in their claims that they should not be sent to rwanda. that is coming. whichever way it goes on wednesday is going to be a big legal argument she clashed with the metropolitan police commissioner, going on. and, of course, if we sir mark rowley, over pro—palestine protests in london and caused a backlash when she said sleeping do... whoever the new home secretary rough in tents was sometimes a lifestyle choice. is, they will have to find a way of suella fernandes. .. dealing with all of that. i suspect that the stakes, in terms of britain it was in 2015 that ms braverman, a's place, within the european then suella fernandes, convention of human rights and so first entered the commons. on, is going to become a big debate a brexiteer, she quit as brexit minister over concerns about theresa may's version —— britain's place. of the withdrawal agreement. on, is going to become a big debate but laterjoined the cabinet -- britain's place.— as borisjohnson�*s attorney general. -- britain's place. mark, let's talk about the circumstances - -- britain's place. mark, let's talk. about the circumstances surrounding and in 2021, she became the first suella braverman�*s departure. there cabinet minister to take maternity was an article in the times last leave after a change in the law weekend i spoke to someone who was was rushed through to allow it. for me of the met police last week she never hid her ambition, though, for the topjob. on bbc news who said the mood among asked if she would run for leader the rank and file officers was here before her boss really disappointed. they were had actually resigned. i'll be straight with you, frustrated that i home secretary was robert, yes, iwill. criticising the police in such an in the resulting contest, open way. what was your reading of she came sixth, but suspicions swirled that her punchy style was, that? and how that led to her in part, ultimate downfall? —— that a home about setting the ground secretary. ultimate downfall? -- that a home secreta . ~ ,, ., �* ., ., secretary. when suella braverman, when she was _ for another run. secretary. when suella braverman, when she was home _ secretary. when suella braverman, when she was home secretary, - secretary. when suella braverman, when she was home secretary, hadi when she was home secretary, had regular and easy access to the it's the guardian—reading, commission of the metropolitan tofu—eating, wokerati, dare i say, police, sir mark rowley. the anti—growth coalition that we have to thank undoubtedly, there was some upset for the disruption that we that she had decided to raise this are seeing on our roads today. for now, suella braverman question about the evenhandedness of will return to the backbenches. it seems unlikely, though, the way that scotland yard polices that she'll do it quietly. protests, the suggestion being that helen catt, bbc news, westminster. they were much tougher on right wing protests than those more on the left. she could have had that helen catt looking back on the conversation if she had concerns directly with sir mark. instead, she political career of suella braverman. but it is by no means chose to do it without warning and, over. of course, this morning, rishi as we know, without number ten full sunak sacked her as home secretary. agreement. in the times newspaper. it was a sacking that had been widely touted and rumoured here in suella braverman is a particular kind of politician. she is somebody westminster over the last few days. who, you know, does not mince her the real action, though, in downing words. she says what she says. for street this morning has been the return, at least on this street this many people within the conservative morning, we don't know what for yet, party, that is something they find of former prime minister david quite refreshing. somebody who is cameron, who was seen arriving here not going to be worried about not too long ago. it is being widely upsetting people or staring things speculated that he could become the upsetting people or staring things up a little bit. —— stirring things next foreign secretary with the current foreign secretary james cleverly being moved to the home up. if you are the prime minister office to replace suella braverman. and trying to keep things together at the moment, we understand both in difficult times, that could be men are in there and, of course, more difficult. rishi sunak had until we see them come out, we get really decided to come up until today, that it was better to have the news, it is all mere speculation. that is begging it suella braverman in the tent, as it further, because that is what we were, ratherthan suella braverman in the tent, as it always do here in westminster, i am were, rather than outside. suella braverman in the tent, as it were, ratherthan outside. in suella braverman in the tent, as it were, rather than outside. in some respects, her language, although there were words that many other joined by my colleague, political cabinet ministers and, indeed, correspondent ione wells. a remarkable morning when we see a probably the prime minister too, would not have used, she was former prime minister walk up downing street when we didn't expect reflecting some deep frustrations within the country. it'll be him. , ., , ., him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, _ him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, he _ him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, he is— him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, he is not _ him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, he is not an - him. currently not even somebody who sits in parliament, he is not an mp, - sits in parliament, he is not an mp, he is not in the house of lords. interesting to see the new home secretary, whoever that is, whether that could happen very quickly, he they take a much more measured tone could be made a lord in orderfor in dealing with protests, parliament to hold him to account immigration, crime and so on. if, as expected, he is about to be indeed, all of this coming a year made to the new foreign secretary. as you say, this is completely ahead of an expected general election where the policies from the unexpected and i don't think anyone was expecting him to be walking up home office are going to be a big this street this morning. it is a huge brief, as well, arguably at the talking point in a future campaign. moment one of the most important in government what with the ongoing yes, it's clearfrom conflict between israel and gaza. a talking point in a future campaign. yes, it's clear from the conservative party conference and subsequently that the conservatives huge brief for him to take on. want to put crime and punishment at interesting parliamentary aspect, in the heart of what they're going to be offering the country at the next westminster, as i say, he will have election. again, it is that sense of to be accountable to parliament, wanting to have somebody who is tough, who is, you know, saying it answering questions about what the government because my current policy like they see it. i think suella is when it comes to the middle east. braverman was definitely somebody he isn't currently sitting in who appealed to some of the tory rank and file in that she seemed to parliament or as a lord or mp and it is tricky, people spectating how this will work in practice. that is interesting. _ this will work in practice. that is interesting, he _ this will work in practice. that is interesting, he is _ this will work in practice. that is interesting, he is not _ this will work in practice. that is interesting, he is not sitting - this will work in practice. that is interesting, he is not sitting in l interesting, he is not sitting in parliament at all, which i almost forgot! what would have to happen forgot! what would have to happen for him to be appointed or could he just be appointed anyway, what sort of constitutional rules around that? he could certainly be put in the house of lords by rishi sunak. film. house of lords by rishi sunak. 0h, sor to house of lords by rishi sunak. oh, sorry to interrupt, confirmation that james cleverly is indeed home secretary. that james cleverly is indeed home secreta . , , ~ that james cleverly is indeed home secreta . , , . ., , secretary. very expected that this move would _ secretary. very expected that this move would follow _ secretary. very expected that this move would follow and _ secretary. very expected that this move would follow and this - secretary. very expected that this move would follow and this is - secretary. very expected that this i move would follow and this is where the moving parts are happening this morning. to recap, suella braverman sacked as home secretary, james cleverly replacing her as home secretary, that is why david cameron has been brought in to replace him as foreign secretary. hat has been brought in to replace him as foreign secretary. not confirmed but widely expected. _ as foreign secretary. not confirmed but widely expected. that's - as foreign secretary. not confirmed but widely expected. that's right. . but widely expected. that's right. that is the next _ but widely expected. that's right. that is the next orchestra. - but widely expected. that's right. that is the next orchestra. we - but widely expected. that's right. i that is the next orchestra. we have just had confirmation that james cleverly is the new home secretary. let's stick to that talk about foreign secretary, surely it will be announced soon. let's stick with james cleverly, replacing suella braverman. he has been very prominent in recent weeks and months as home secretary. he is well regarded across the party, isn't he? that's right. in recent polls among conservative members he has risen up and is seen as one of the most popular cabinet ministers among tory party members anyway. that is an interesting fact in itself. clearly, suella braverman was certainly seen as popular among the tory right, the right wing of the party. some of the more right—wing tory party members in particular. but it did isolate some of her own party within westminster, some of the more centrist wing of the party. i think james cleverly will potentially be seen as somebody who could unite different wings in that sense potentially but it is a huge and very controversial brief. we know thatjust very controversial brief. we know that just this week the new very controversial brief. we know thatjust this week the new home secretary will have to deal with things like the rwanda ruling, whether their policy to send some asylum seeker is to rewind it is legal or not. if it is not, there are some in the conservative party is some asylum seekers to rwanda. we'lljames cleverly want to do that if he has just moved from the foreign office brief where part of this role was diplomacy, speaking to the international community, working with european counterparts, us counterparts. would he now wants to move from that diplomatic stage to one where he is campaigning to leave a human rights convention. we don't know. we don't know what he plans to do as home secretary, given he has just been appointed. a massive brief to take on when the government is under pressure to tackle small boat crossing is in the channel, so certainly has been under pressure in the last couple of days in particular around his attitude to policing as well and protests and how the policing of protests will happen, going forward. these are all big, big questions thatjames cleverly will now inherit as home secretary. cleverly will now inherit as home secreta . ., ,, ., secretary. you cover this beat reuularl secretary. you cover this beat regularly lone. _ secretary. you cover this beat regularly lone, are _ secretary. you cover this beat regularly lone, are you - secretary. you cover this beat i regularly lone, are you surprised regularly ione, are you surprised that cleverly has moved into this role, given he had such a prominent role, given he had such a prominent role in the foreign office? it is surprising _ role in the foreign office? it is surprising in — role in the foreign office? it is surprising in the _ role in the foreign office? it 3 surprising in the sense that certainly he had made clear his intentions to stay as foreign secretary. actually he was asked at a press conference fairly recently about other reshuffle speculation some time ago. he made it pretty clear and he even sent a message when he was overseas to rishi sunak that he wanted to stay as foreign secretary, he loved this job and didn't want to move. some may be even resurfacing that clip today potentially as evidence this wasn't necessarily a move he would have chosen for himself. politically, does it make sense? is it a surprise? potentially not. he is a popularfigure surprise? potentially not. he is a popular figure among tory party members. he is already in one of the bigger great offices of state. potentially seen as a safe pair of hands. there will be questions about whether it is a brief he really wants given some of his previous rhetoric. ~ ., ., , rhetoric. were there other names in the frame? — rhetoric. were there other names in the frame? perhaps _ rhetoric. were there other names in the frame? perhaps robert - rhetoric. were there other names in the frame? perhaps robert jenrick, | the frame? perhaps robertjenrick, immigration minister, and other names in the frame. who else was being considered for this, do you think? . �* , ., , being considered for this, do you think? . h .,, ., , think? that's right, as there always is before these _ think? that's right, as there always is before these things, _ think? that's right, as there always is before these things, there - think? that's right, as there always is before these things, there is - think? that's right, as there always is before these things, there is a i is before these things, there is a waste regulation thinking about someone like robertjenrick, who is already immigration minister and has already immigration minister and has a home office brief in that sense or whether it was somebody who is a close ally of rishi sunak, somebody like his deputy prime minister oliver dowden, for example. one of the things that clearly sort of i think broke down tensions in the end between rishi sunak and the former home secretary, suella braverman, was a kind of perceived disloyalty to him. that article over the weekend where she kind of had written pretty inflammatory language around policing, numberten written pretty inflammatory language around policing, number ten had asked her to make changes and she didn't then make the changes that were requested. that active going against the grain of what rishi sunak wanted was potentially the final straw. sunak wanted was potentially the finalstraw. he sunak wanted was potentially the final straw. he will be hoping this new relationship will put —— with james cleverly will be one where there is more loyalty and toeing the line of what rishi sunak wants. maybe not as headline grabbing but let's see. ione, stay with us. we are watching this very closely. not much movement but i suspect shortly there might be a bit of a revolving door. stay with us. i am nowjoined byjohn rental, who is the independent newspapers chief political respondent, good to have you with us on a busy morning at bbc news. what do you make of the developments in the last couple of hours? the return of david cameron as foreign secretary is quite a surprise. foreign secretary is quite a surprise-— foreign secretary is quite a surrise. ., , , surprise. not yet confirmed, is it, john? that's _ surprise. not yet confirmed, is it, john? that's speculation. - surprise. not yet confirmed, is it, john? that's speculation. no! - surprise. not yet confirmed, is it, john? that's speculation. no! i. john? that's speculation. no! i don't think— john? that's speculation. no! i don't think david _ john? that's speculation. no! i don't think david cameron - john? that's speculation. no! i don't think david cameron was | john? that's speculation. no! i. don't think david cameron was in there because he had forgotten to empty larry the cat's litter tray! laughter he is very likely to be foreign secretary. it is a strange appointment for somebody who only the other day was proclaiming himself as the change candidate. this seems very much like a step backwards. with all due respect to david cameron. i thoughtjames cleverly was doing a good job as foreign secretary. in many ways, a surprisingly good job, because he didn't have much foreign policy experience. yet rishi sunak... decided that he is a better fit at the home office. the decided that he is a better fit at the home office.— decided that he is a better fit at the home office. the question is, john