with the prime minister's statement on wednesday. while he opposes a pro—palestinian rally being held on armistice day, he has ultimately backed the "right to peaceful protest". and while ms braverman does have the tools and authority to remove the police commissioner, she doesn't have free reign to involve herself in daily policing decisions. so where does this leave the commissioner, mark rowley? to exit stage left at this point — no matter how honourable, that might be the right thing to do — would not be helpful for me policing perspective, and the last thing this weekend needs is something else that's not helpful. it needs a little bit of common sense and continuity and stability, and i suspect he would've thought that him leaving would not provide that. our panel to discuss all this tonight, bryan lanza one political strategist who ran the donald trump communications department, and running but paul wall. but let's start with bryan. but there has been a lot of criticism tonight for suella braverman, but there have been some who think she enunciates what many in her party want to say and she gets punished for it. what do you make of her intervention? it do you make of her intervention? it looks like the launch of a larger political— looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. _ looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. if— looks like the launch of a larger political campaign. if you - 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want to be surprised if he were . launching the launch of a broader political— launching the launch of a broader political campaign. _ launching the launch of a broader political campaign.— launching the launch of a broader political campaign. there are echoes here of when — political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris _ political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris johnson - political campaign. there are echoes here of when boris johnson wrote i here of when borisjohnson wrote articles about brexit which were not signed off by theresa may's team when he was under her leadership at the foreign secretary and he eventually quit the cabinet. do you think it works, this, there are politicians in the conservative party were looking at what she is saying who think that she is making, you know, plans forfuture leadership, it is always work or do you have to be careful how you go about it? xtt�*et you have to be careful how you go about it? ., , , ., . about it? yet to be strategic in future spots- _ about it? yet to be strategic in future spots. we _ about it? yet to be strategic in future spots. we cannot - 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political. she is separating herself from a brand that is toxic and - political. she is separating herself from a brand that is toxic and she| from a brand that is toxic and she is picking — from a brand that is toxic and she is picking an _ from a brand that is toxic and she is picking an issue _ from a brand that is toxic and she is picking an issue that _ is picking an issue that she separates— is picking an issue that she separates yourself- is picking an issue that she separates yourself on - is picking an issue that she separates yourself on and i is picking an issue that shei separates yourself on and i is picking an issue that she - separates yourself on and i suspect become _ separates yourself on and i suspect become more — separates yourself on and i suspect become more popular— separates yourself on and i suspect become more popular over- separates yourself on and i suspect become more popular over time. . become more popular over time. shrewd _ become more popular over time. shrewd to — become more popular over time. shrewd to how— become more popular over time. shrewd to how have _ become more popular over time. i shrewd to how have conservative become more popular over time. - shrewd to how have conservative mps at us looking to do today reacted to the article that she placed in the times? i the article that she placed in the times? ~ . , the article that she placed in the times? ~ ., , ., ., , times? i think many of them are sick ofthe times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that _ times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that actually _ times? i think many of them are sick of the fact that actually she is - of the fact that actually she is behaving like an outright backbencher rather than the home secretary. and i think theyjust feel that there is a sense that the prime minister really needs to rain her and and at least if not sachar, some of them do want him to sachar to show some authority, at least put down some clear markers about what she can and cannot say. but the problem is that she has done this serially, repeatedly. she is talked about the idea of it charities being banned it from handing out tents for the homeless people. that was not authorised by number 10 and in fact it was such an embarrassment to make sure it was pulled from the king's speech. that is a kind of behaviour from mechanic minister you really don't expect when you are on the same team and you and the barrel of a year—long general election campaign. yet to be is that it is possible and i think is that more than anything else and the politics, the fact that she is going off piece thatis the fact that she is going off piece that is really concerning for a lot of tory mps. now, obviously, many of them think that she may well be itching to get fired and saying things deliberately to get sacked i don't quite buy that. i think she is saying it because she genuinely believes this and she feels that she is tapping into a certain segment of the public opinion. but at the end of the day, but will really determine her fate is of the day, but will really determine herfate is i think whether or not not what she says, her rhetoric about she delivers and i think that is next week and will be really important. we have this rwanda courtjudgment coming, and if that's negative, that might give them the excuse to say actually is time to move on.— them the excuse to say actually is time to move on. chris mason made the oint time to move on. chris mason made the point is — time to move on. chris mason made the point is that _ time to move on. chris mason made the point is that since _ time to move on. chris mason made the point is that since immigration l the point is that since immigration is a key issue for conservative voters and obviously they need the base to come out in the election next year, she stirs the base and she fulfils a role for the prime minister. and you can see the politics of that. the only downside i guess from rishi sunak poss my perspective when you consider that is the preamble to this ralph was the problem in the labour party and the problem in the labour party and the splits over keir starmer�*s feelings towards god is acidly talking about the conservatives and their positions. that cannot be good politics. their positions. that cannot be good olitics. . , their positions. that cannot be good olitics. ., , ., ., politics. that is not good politics in one of the _ politics. that is not good politics in one of the things _ politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here - politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here is - politics. that is not good politics in one of the things here is rishii in one of the things here is rishi sunak is not simply good at politics with the people try to keep the troops in line but things that he is like him and he would not say and some of the stuff she says is licensed when it comes to the politics of it, policing one of these marches, the prime minister himself has been outmaneuvered by the head of the met police, who said i call your bluff was to be futile me to ban this march, you will have to order me effectively to ban the smart. i don't think we should be like likely benefit of a speeches we have a long tradition in this country and the prime minister was basically outmaneuvered by the police chief. and that again, if that happens here that shows you the prime minister, something is wrong and i think some backbenchers nuzzling his round there and that maybe his instincts are actually very similar to suella braverman's come of it in terms of execution and have a guess about it, it is quite flawed. ,, ., ., ,, ,., flawed. should make the point we have made _ flawed. should make the point we have made calls _ flawed. should make the point we have made calls to _ flaw