you love them, tell them. if you haven't already told them how vulnerable you sometimes feel, tell them. you never know what is coming around the corner. it was a very beautiful ceremony. we'll talk live to the prisons minister damian hinds. here for labour is their shadow health secretary wes streeting. last week the murderer of zara aleena had his sentence cut on appeal. today's king's speech introduced whole—life sentences for sexually motivated killings. we'll get the reaction of zara aleena's aunt. also tonight. we report from kfar afza — an israeli kibbutz where hamas killed families in their homes a month ago today. we speak to a member of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's party, as israel says its military response to the atrocities has reached the heart of gaza city. we area we are a couple of kilometres from the border with gaza and this is one of the communities worst hit on october the 7th. more than 100 people died here in this community. what was the vision? well the government put crime and justice front and centre of their offer to the country today — in the king's speech laying out their legislative agenda in the time left before a general election. you've probably heard the details by now — and we'll drill down on some of them with our guests from conservatives and labour in a moment. but in summary, the king announced whole life sentences for murders committed with sexual or sadistic motives, and plans to force criminals to attend their sentencing after high profile no—shows from lucy letby and the killers of olivia pratt—korbel and zara aleena. the legislation will also attempt to ease the pressure on prisons — establishing new powers for prisoners to be transferred abroad to serve their sentences and effectively scrapping jail terms of less than 12 months. rishi sunak said the plans would "change our country for the better". sir keir starmer said the government had reached a "new low" with "more sticking plasters" and "more divisions". here's nick. friends for a brief moment. prime minister and pretend you're putting on a show for the cameras. then more serious, calculating opportunities and pitfalls. as the monarch outlined his government prizmic plans that will shape the road the election. and in the 21 bills, three main themes stood out. firstly what the tories hope will be traps for labour on energy, a new annual round of north sea oil and gas licences which the labour party is committed to scrapping and on crime, tory red meat with tougher sentences for the most serious offenders. secondly some less political elements, and you great british railways body to take over rail franchising and changing the law on self driving cars. and finally rishi sunak showed he is prepared for a showdown with elements of his party as he legislates to ensure nobody currently aged 1a will be allowed to buy cigarettes. the prime minister insisted he was acting in the long—term interests of the nation. it builds on the strong foundation of an economy file on its way to recovery and rejects government and backs people and businesses to thrive, it strengthens society with measures to support health and education. . measures to support health and education-— measures to support health and education. . ,, ., ., , education. earlier keir starmer was dismissive- — education. earlier keir starmer was dismissive. what _ education. earlier keir starmer was dismissive. what this _ education. earlier keir starmer was dismissive. what this address - 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achieve a breakthrough. i do not think the conference speech did | achieve a breakthrough. i do not- think the conference speech did what number ten wanted it to do, there was a feeling perhaps that they would change some things in retrospect and that produced some impact. then you have the king's speech which i think is going to get the government something to focus on, something to say but actually is not going to in a meaningful way at the lightning bolt that changes their fortunes. the lightning bolt that changes theirfortunes. then the lightning bolt that changes their fortunes. then the autumn statement coming up the track and again i think this could be something of a disappointment to tory mps. no final decisions made in terms of what will be in that but i think it is more likely than not that personal tax cuts are pushed into the spring. that personal tax cuts are pushed into the spring-— that personal tax cuts are pushed into the spring. very thin and not a road map to _ into the spring. very thin and not a road map to anywhere, _ into the spring. very thin and not a road map to anywhere, but - into the spring. very thin and not a road map to anywhere, but very i into the spring. very thin and not a. road map to anywhere, but very odd that whenever opinion polls which is what people worry about is the cost of living _ what people worry about is the cost of living and public services and climate — of living and public services and climate and immigration, none of that was— climate and immigration, none of that was there, nothing that people really— that was there, nothing that people really care — that was there, nothing that people really care about was discussed. i find it— really care about was discussed. i find it surprising that a party in such— find it surprising that a party in such deep— find it surprising that a party in such deep trouble has not managed to make some _ such deep trouble has not managed to make some big steps in any direction, _ make some big steps in any direction, something that identifies them~ _ direction, something that identifies them. it— direction, something that identifies them. ., , direction, something that identifies them. ., direction, something that identifies them. . ., direction, something that identifies them. ., ., ., ., them. it was a lot of nothing. centuries _ them. it was a lot of nothing. centuries of _ them. it was a lot of nothing. centuries of tradition - them. it was a lot of nothing. centuries of tradition holding | them. it was a lot of nothing. - centuries of tradition holding firm but presaging a political battle to claim the future. before we speak to the prisons minister damian hinds we're going to speak to zara aleena's aunt farah naz. zara was attacked on her way home from a night out in ilford east london last summer. jordan mcsweeney stalked her before grabbing her and dragging her into a alleyway. the attack lasted nine minutes and he left the law graduate with 46 separate injuries. mcsweeney had been released from prison on licence nine days before the murder. he had his minumum sentence of 38 years reduced to 33 years lkast years reduced to 33 years last friday by the court of appeal. he by the way had refused to attend his sentencing in court. thank you for being with us this evening. under new plans announced by the government such killers will spend the rest of the life behind bars in future. what you think of that? i bars in future. what you think of that? i will wholeheartedly support that? i will wholeheartedly support that ou that? i will wholeheartedly support that you measure _ that? i will wholeheartedly support that you measure for _ that? i will wholeheartedly support that you measure for stringent - that you measure for stringent sentencing for sexually motivated murder. it is a serious crime and sadistic nature. and such criminals are unlikely to change in their lifetime. so it is a measure that protects society from them. we think it sends a powerful message to potential offenders and serves as a significant deterrent. but unfortunately it is regrettable that such measures were not in place in the case of zara where as you said ironically, the man who murdered her only a few days before received a reduction in his minimum sentence so thatis reduction in his minimum sentence so that is particularlyjarring for us. what impact does that have on you and your family? what impact does that have on you and yourfamily? the what impact does that have on you and your family?— what impact does that have on you and your family? the crime was not severe enough _ and your family? the crime was not severe enough for— and your family? the crime was not severe enough for life _ and your family? the crime was not severe enough for life to _ and your family? the crime was not severe enough for life to mean - and your family? the crime was not severe enough for life to mean life. j severe enough for life to mean life. and what we understand is when a murder is committed with such a level of intent and sadism that we are told that life means life. and we're not sure whether that is what is going to happen even though it is a minimum sentence with a life sentence. it is a minimum tariff thatis sentence. it is a minimum tariff that is reduced. and so we do understand that but given that an esteemed judge who was on the case for just esteemed judge who was on the case forjust under six months has been overruled by an appeal hearing that took place under two hours, it seems ludicrous that that appeal hearing could overturn the sentencing judge ruling as if it was incorrect. so it begs the question if they consider that the sentencing judge was incorrect we could equally ask perhaps the appeal process was incorrect. and certainly we had a lot of questions in that process. so thejudgment lot of questions in that process. so the judgment today is very important, i think the women all around. an important for our campaign. we are trying to make meaning out of zara's death to protect women. and so we are of course pleased at this measure and the other measure that offenders will be forced to attend their sentencing in the court room. and we think that is also very important as a deterrent. think that is also very important as a deterrent-— think that is also very important as a deterrent. ., ,, , ., , . ., a deterrent. thank you very much for bein: with a deterrent. thank you very much for being with us — a deterrent. thank you very much for being with us this _ a deterrent. thank you very much for being with us this evening, _ a deterrent. thank you very much for being with us this evening, we - being with us this evening, we appreciate your time. thank you. damian hinds, ministerfor prisons, parole and probation, joins me now. why has it taken your government 13 years to actually make sure some of the worst offenders spend the rest of their lives in jail? the worst offenders spend the rest of their lives injail? can the worst offenders spend the rest of their lives in jail?— of their lives in “ail? can i “ust face -a of their lives injail? can i “ust face pay tribute i of their lives injail? can i “ust face pay tribute to i of their lives injail? can i “ust face pay tribute to farah h of their lives in jail? can ijust face pay tribute to farah and l of their lives in jail? can i just i face pay tribute to farah and her story is as tragic as any story you could imagine, she has been incredibly brave and dignified and impactful in the way that she has taken that and try to make it make a difference for people in the future. and of course the case that she makes is extremely powerful and that is one the reasons why we forward this measure that in these worst cases, killings with sexual and sadistic conduct that life must mean life and a whole life order. it sadistic conduct that life must mean life and a whole life order.— life and a whole life order. it has taken 13 years. _ life and a whole life order. it has taken 13 years. and _ life and a whole life order. it has taken 13 years. and also - life and a whole life order. it has taken 13 years. and also as - life and a whole life order. it has taken 13 years. and also as she i taken 13 years. and also as she riuhtl taken 13 years. and also as she rightly says. — taken 13 years. and also as she rightly says. the _ taken 13 years. and also as she rightly says, the requirement l taken 13 years. and also as she i rightly says, the requirement that people must turn up in court to hear their sentencing. we have been over time making sentences for the worst offenders tougher and putting back the automatic release date back to two thirds from one half and average senses as you will know are longer than they were. there are more people in prison than at any time previously. people in prison than at any time previously-— people in prison than at any time previously. that is no consolation to herfamily- _ previously. that is no consolation to her family. i— previously. that is no consolation to her family. i am _ previously. that is no consolation to her family. i am just _ previously. that is no consolation to her family. i am just asking . previously. that is no consolationl to her family. i am just asking why to herfamily. i am just asking why it has taken 13 years? i do to her family. i am just asking why it has taken 13 years?— it has taken 13 years? i do not su: est it has taken 13 years? i do not suggest for — it has taken 13 years? i do not suggest for a _ it has taken 13 years? i do not suggest for a moment - it has taken 13 years? i do not suggest for a moment that i it has taken 13 years? i do not suggest for a moment that itl it has taken 13 years? i do not - suggest for a moment that it does. i am just asking why it has taken 13 years? i am just asking why it has taken 13 ears? , ., , am just asking why it has taken 13 ears? , . , ., ,~ years? i understand why ask the ruestion years? i understand why ask the question and _ years? i understand why ask the question and it _ years? i understand why ask the question and it is _ years? i understand why ask the question and it is a _ years? i understand why ask the question and it is a reasonable l question and it is a reasonable question and it is a reasonable question and it is a reasonable question and the answer is that we are doing this now and i think it is an important to put the two together, the whole life order is an there to hear the sentence ring in your ears as you then go into incarceration. and other measures that we have put in place and are putting in place to make sure the worst offenders and most dangerous people spend longer behind bars for the protection of the public. you not the question _ the protection of the public. you not the question but i will move on. time is pressing. let me ask you about something else in the sensing bill, the government will grasp the nettle and make a long—term decision that previous governments have ducked and legislate for a presumption that sentences of less than 12 months in prison should be suspended. the people sentenced to jail terms that are less than a year will not as a rule of thumb served time injail. according to domestic abuse campaigners that is a trail of victims and survivors of domestic abuse, stalking and because they say hundreds of churches will essentially walk free from court. how would that make victims feel? were not banning those sentences and send things decisions are made by judges and there will always be cases including those of domestic abuse were a short custodial sentence is the right thing to do. what we are legislating is a presumption against short sentences. how will that make victims feel? taste how will that make victims feel? we are all how will that make victims feel? - are all about public safety and for the worst offenders that means being incarcerated longer and in the worst cases for the rest of your life. we are talking _ cases for the rest of your life. we are talking about you legislating for a presumption that short sentences will be suspended and that means according to domestic abuse campaigners including your own domestic abuse commissioner that perpetrators will walk free? that domestic abuse