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BBCNEWS The July 2, 2024



nation. his first visit to a commonwealth country since becoming king. king charles expressed his greatest sorrow and deep regret for the atrocities suffered by canyons during the struggle for independence but stop short of making a full apology for the british empires bloodiest insurgency. more than 10,000 were killed and many others were tortured. in 2013 the uk compensated more than 5000 people in a deal worth £20 million. it is a dealworth £20 million. it is particularly — a dealworth £20 million. it is particularly special _ a dealworth £20 million. it is particularly special to - a deal worth £20 million. it 3 particularly special to be able a deal worth £20 million. it 1 particularly special to be able to return to this extraordinary country in the 60th year of your independence. today, mr president, you and i stood by the mighty tree which marks the spot where almost 60 years ago the kenyan flag was first raised. it seemed to me that the tree is thriving strong and deeply rooted just as this country and people continue to thrive. we rooted just as this country and people continue to thrive. we can go to nairobi and _ people continue to thrive. we can go to nairobi and speak— people continue to thrive. we can go to nairobi and speak to _ people continue to thrive. we can go to nairobi and speak to our - people continue to thrive. we can go to nairobi and speak to our senior. to nairobi and speak to our senior african correspondent. what is the reaction overall been to the kings visit to kenya?— reaction overall been to the kings visit to kenya? there has been a lot of interest because _ visit to kenya? there has been a lot of interest because you _ visit to kenya? there has been a lot of interest because you would - of interest because you would imagine that we do not have royalty here and therefore this is something new. the last time we had was in 1983 and many, many people want at the time for the people have been following the visit with a lot of interest they've been following the conversations, listening to what the king is speaking about. but importantly reflecting on the past. the kings visit has actually brought to the fore that colonial past, which many of the younger generation do not really know much of because of a0 years of independence the fighters who you mentioned those atrocities were committed against, they were made a prescribed group. i remember my mother could not talk about and lower her voice in her own kitchen. afraid was herfear. it was a prescribed group, a terrorist organisation and therefore that part of history was lost. now they are beginning to think that we need to acknowledge that history, children need to be taught that history. also some of the survivors saying well, the king has acknowledge this, it is important, it is welcome. but there is much more that needs to be done. they fought for land, many of them died poor. because the land went to the loyalist. those who fought for the loyalist. those who fought for the colonial list. you the loyalist. those who fought for the colonial list.— the colonial list. you mentioned that the king — the colonial list. you mentioned that the king did _ the colonial list. you mentioned that the king did express - the colonial list. you mentioned that the king did express his - the colonial list. you mentioned - that the king did express his sorrow and deepest regret for atrocities suffered by canyons during that struggle for independence. he did stop short of making an apology. there many people in kenya calling for him to say sorry quite explicitly? for him to say sorry quite exnlicitlv?_ for him to say sorry quite exlicitl ? , ., explicitly? yes. some of the remaining — explicitly? yes. some of the remaining survivors - explicitly? yes. some of the remaining survivors of- explicitly? yes. some of the remaining survivors of the l explicitly? yes. some of the - remaining survivors of the struggle as well is there dependence, those who knew first—hand what that state in the 1950s meant to them. as well as speakers like lawyers, they say the british government and the view that market, the head of state, they say they need to apologise for those atrocities. this is a matter of debate because it is understood that in apology would then be an admission of liability and that would lead to a legal minefield. thank you for bringing us up to date on king charles his visit to kenya. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. zach is one of 50 meals on wheels delivering 150 hot meals a day into the community. and with the delivery they say the services more important than ever. it's a big help. a great help. i was tickled to death. the food angels are always so happy if you've got the cattle filled with water. fits are always so happy if you've got the cattle filled with water. as the -o - ulation the cattle filled with water. as the pepuiation ages — the cattle filled with water. as the population ages demand - the 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tractor. she said you can borrow it so thabs— tractor. she said you can borrow it so that's what we're going on. now the team just _ so that's what we're going on. now the team just has _ so that's what we're going on. now the team just has to _ so that's what we're going on. time" the team just has to decide on the form of transport to set aside for next years national meals on wheels week. you are live is bbc news. the israeli president isaac herzog has strongly defended israel's military operations in gaza, insisting israel was doing its best to limit civilian casualties but had to target hamas infrastructure, including homes because hamas was using them to launch rockets into israel. israel is coming under mounting international criticism for the rising civilian deaths in gaza and a growing humanitarian crisis. he was speaking to our chief international correspondent lyse doucet injerusalem. i find my role first and foremost as strengthening my nation. my nation is in deep agony. the people of israel is in deep agony and expected agony, unprecedented agony. we're mourning. we're mind boggled. we're a different nation in many respects, at least at this given moment. these atrocities disseminated also to the national psyche. how can anybody accept these atrocities where many of those who are killed, tortured, abducted and burned, literally burnt as families burned with barbed wires and guns around them, where the biggest supporters of peace ever in this country/ in this country? two weeks ago, you said that there were no innocent civilians in gaza. you said an entire nation out there is responsible. do you still say that? because the quote that was quoted, of course, did not complete the entire statement of mine. and i also clarified it in other channels. i said the following — i said that, of course, there are civilians who are innocent in gaza. but on the other hand, let's just look at the exact picture. if you had in your living room or in your kitchen or in your basement, in your shop missiles but huge missiles. missiles that can fly 200 kilometers. missiles that fly on us to kill us. what am i supposed to do? i have to eradicate the infrastructure that launches the missiles. that's your home. i have to ask you to move out. we're operating according to the rules of international law to ask people to move out to a safe zone. we gave them a lot. we're helping them to move out and we've arranged a lot of humanitarian aid. but we heard again from the head of the united nations relief and works agency addressing the un security council. no area is safe in gaza. a million people, he said, have moved south, but israel continues to bomb the south. not true. let us look at the numbers. more than 8000 dead. and last night we heard nearly 70% are women and children. so why have they had to pay the price for...? but you have to enable me to answer. my heart goes out. truly, truly, my heart goes out. but when you deal with the right of self—defense. what kind of self—defense? what kind of self—defense do i have? people went in to our territory. your closest of allies, joe biden is is telling you on a daily basis. we're listening to him and we're operating very closely in conjunction with the united states, but with the british government, with the authorities, we're supplying humanitarian aid. we're doing our best to move all the civilians to go down south to be fully protected. then the army goes in fights and cleans up the place from hamas. then they will be able to go back. and you know what? perhaps there will be a real future for the palestinian people without this atrocious terror regime in gaza. but your allies worry that by — the war in the way in which you are care about, that you will create even more danger for the region and more dangerfor israel. you care about you don't see that danger? we care about... first and foremost, we care of our citizens. i also want to ask you about the news yesterday that a soldier was rescued from gaza. 0ne family's joy, and that was shared by many israelis. but as you know, because you meet the families of the hostages, many are expressing concern that the expansion of the ground operations could endanger the lives of their loved ones. what do you say to them? i must tell you that the meetings with the families are the most difficult meetings i've ever had in my life. they're not knowing the fate of your loved ones is something inconceivable. and the and the stories are terrible. the stories are painful. this is our top priority. we want the hostages back. by the way, there are dozens of nationalities represented in that group of hostages. and incidentally, we're doing many operations and we're trying our best to bring them back. but the negotiations in the gulf state of qatar, it's been confirmed that the head of mossad, your intelligence agency, went to qatar. that seems to suggest that a deal could possibly be in reach. well, we're in contact with the qataris all the time. they are playing an important role in this effort. i hope there will be a result. we all hope and pray this progress is being made. i cannot confirm that. i don't know. i must say that all in all, there hasn't been progress. we haven't seen any real suggestions, any real offers or any real proposals that are worthwhile being considered. mr president, the day after, when this war is over. what next for gaza? who'll run it? so again, i don't want to go into that right now, i believe... but your allies are warning from their own mistakes, truly, that there has to be a mechanism in place to take over and deal with gaza. we will have to deal with our neighbours, our immediate ourfaraway, our friends and allies. the rule that was set by our founding father, david ben—gurion, was first and foremost protect the nation. make sure that we're not threatened again. isaac herzog, president of israel, thank you. thank you. the financial crisis in 2009. the governments latest official figure say the construction retail and hospitality sectors are amongst the hardest hit. with all the details, here's our business editor, simonjack. going, going, gone. wine merchant dean is packing up the last of his stock as he shuts down his business. there wasn't the same spending power in the market. i can pay my suppliers, pay myself and pay all the additional cost. that's when i realise it wasn't about business anymore. 2023 is shaping up to be a little shop of horrors. the number of companies in critical financial distress is up by a quarter in the last three months, and this year is expected to see more business failures than any since the crisis of 2009. around the corner this bakery battles on. it around the corner this bakery battles on— around the corner this bakery battles on. , , ., , �*, battles on. it is precarious there's times i battles on. it is precarious there's times i say. _ battles on. it is precarious there's times i say, please _ battles on. it is precarious there's times i say, please i— battles on. it is precarious there's times i say, please i hope - times i say, please i hope the dishwasher is break play, help the fridge doesn't break. i actually love what we do. i'm proud of what we do. i will fight till the end to us going. it's really not easy. it's only the very toughest survive at the moment. only the very toughest survive at the moment-— only the very toughest survive at the moment. wage bills, material cost promote _ the moment. wage bills, material cost promote wage _ the moment. wage bills, material cost promote wage price - the moment. wage bills, material cost promote wage price the - the moment. wage bills, material| cost promote wage price the same time customers are faced with crisis with add that aero loans needing pay them back in a tax and less patient than in those years, it's little wonder there's been a surge in the number of companies either being forced were choosing to throw in the towel. the construction sector is under particular stress. that's no surprise to carrie lee. he's got enough work to survive but says it's one of the toughest times he can remember. one of the toughest times he can remember-_ one of the toughest times he can remember. ., . ~ , ., remember. you wake up in the morning thins have remember. you wake up in the morning things have gone _ remember. you wake up in the morning things have gone up. _ remember. you wake up in the morning things have gone up. you _ remember. you wake up in the morning things have gone up. you don't - remember. you wake up in the morning things have gone up. you don't want - things have gone up. you don't want to go back to your customers with out you go back to your customers you might lose herjob. you gotta take it and swallow it. the masses part is peoples interest rate, people spending more money on their mortgages they are less likely to spend money on building work. fin mortgages they are less likely to spend money on building work. on the briuhter spend money on building work. on the brighter side — spend money on building work. on the brighter side inflation _ spend money on building work. on the brighter side inflation has _ spend money on building work. on the brighter side inflation has fallen, - brighter side inflation has fallen, prices are raised to the neck rising less quickly. but keeping your head above water is a challenge many thousands of firms will fail this year. the labour leader sir keir starmer has been defending his decision not to demand an immediate ceasefire in gaza — despite calls to do so from within his own party. in a speech in london, he said such a move would embolden hamas, and insisted a humanitarian pause was the only credible approach to the conflict. 0ur deputy political editor vicki young has more. plenty disagree with the labour leader's response to what's happening in the middle east. he wants a pause in fighting to allow more aid into gaza, but a growing number in his own party are calling for a ceasefire. today, keir starmer came out to explain why he's still against that idea. as we speak, that would leave hamas with the infrastructure and the capability to carry out the sort of attack we saw on october the seventh. sir keir has so far tolerated the dissent in his ranks rather than sacking more than a dozen shadow ministers. in about a year's time you are hoping to be prime minister. if that happens, will you allow your own ministers to undermine your authority and publicly disagree with you on the most important issues of the day? it is for me to address collective responsibility. i recognise that that is my duty, it matters and i take that duty extremely seriously. but i do it in the context of understanding what is driving people in the call for a ceasefire. many labour mp�*s represent areas with large muslim communities privately some are furious at his approach. other senior labour figures have gone public. he's calling for a humanitarian pause. is that not? look, i want us to go further. i want us to talk about an end to the rocket fire and out of gaza, meaning a cease fire. i want to stop the immediate release of hostages. i want immediate access to humanitarian assistance. ——start some labour camps were reassured by today's speech. feeling secure was more critical of israel's actions than he has been before. but the worse the situation gets in gaza, the harder it will be for him to keep his party united around his policy. vicky young, bbc news, westminster. live now to shaista aziz — a labour councillor who has resigned from the party over keir starmer�*s comments on israel's right to self—defence. she is also a former international aid worker and has worked across gaza, including the jabalia refugee camp where dozens are reported to have been killed earlier today. good to talk to you. why have you resigned from the labour party? thank you for having me on. i resigned from the labour party two days after keir starmer was infamous comments on bbc radio where he was asked a very straightforward question, was it ok for israel to cut off water, gas and electricity and food to gaza. his initial response was, yes. then he gave —— he continued talking and said he wanted israel to align itself with international law. i along with my colleague who is also a counsellor in oxford we rode to our national labour leadership to inquire if this was indeed the official line of the labour party, that collective punishment was okay. this was also repeated pretty much by our newsnight. we didn't receive us response it when we did it was a copy and paste response about hamas. 0ur question to the labour party was about the civilians in gaza who are facing catastrophic military and crisis which is deepening. the party weren't able to explain to us but the alignment was in actual to that. i should just say that after those comments on lb ceaser keir starmer later clarified that he meant only that the country had a right to self defense. —— lb c. we heard keir starmer speaking earlier today, he said that hamas would be emboldened by a cease—fire. and start preparing for future violence immediately. what would say to that? the first thin i what would say to that? the first thing i like _ what would say to that? the first thing i like to _ what would say to that? the first thing i like to make _ what would say to that? the first thing i like to make clear- what would say to that? the first thing i like to make clear is - what would say to that? the first thing i like to make clear is that l thing i like to make clear is that keir starmer decided to explain his comments nine days later. this is an astounding at the time given the crisis unfolding. if you come back to his comments today i think it's very shocking that a former international human rights barrister is still not calling for a cease—fire for that many people in the party are cal

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