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From the air every single day when we do not know where my cousin is, when we do not know where over 200 hostages are and we dont know if any of our bombs have killed them. Here in london, thousandsjoin pro palestinian demonstrations. Similar protests take place Around The World, calling for a ceasefire. Fresh aid enters gaza, and the un tells the bbc theyve managed to re establish some contact with their teams on the ground. Welcome to the programme. Ijust want to start of some Breaking News brought to us by our correspondent paul adams. We have seen some comments on social media for the first time, seemingly, from hamas leader in the gaza strip. He has offered to release all hostages in return for the release of all hamas prisoners in israeli jails. In a statement on hamas official website, it says this, we are ready for an Immediate Exchange deal that includes the release of all prisoners in the prisoners prisons the zionist enemy in exchange for the zionist enemy in exchange for the release of all prisoners from the release of all prisoners from the resistance. We will get some background on that shortly. I now want to focus on those comments from the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He spoke to the media with a couple of members from his war cabinet as well in the last hour or so. You can see the pictures of that. He spoke about the war entering its second phase. Lets take a look at the pictures. Forgive me, these are the pictures of Southern Israel. These are a live feed. We are keeping across the speed. We have various different live beads showing Southern Israel, showing gaza at different times here, and we are keeping across and monitoring them. We have different feeds. Lets see Benjamin Netanyahu at that conference, because he gave us an update with some crucial developments and a phrase he used was that this is the second phase of the war. He said a massive air strikes to assist our Ground Troops have taken place, and talked about hitting hamas targets. He said the war will be long, they are now fighting in enemy territory, they are deployed in the north and they are deployed in the north and the self. He also said there is no contradiction between the twin aims of Dismantling Hamas and bringing home the hostages. Lets take a look at some pictures from overnight. He was referring there to the intensification of the bombardments and this is what he was referring to. The flashes of orange over gaza. 150 hamas targets it according to the israeli officials. That statement that he gave in the last hour or so, letsjust statement that he gave in the last hour or so, lets just take a quick listen to some more of that. Again, i Met With The Hostages families today. My heart broke. And i reiterated that at every stage up to now. And i promise that we are going to do our utmost to bring them back. If you think that you can accuse our soldiers of war crimes, that is hypocrisy. We are the most moral army of the world. We are preventing, as much as possible, any collateral damage. We dont want any Innocent Bystanders hurt. They are using these heinous crimes against humanity when they use their people as human shields. So many people Around The World understand that israel is fighting on behalf of the entire humankind. Our allies in the western world and in the arab world. That if we do not win, they will be next on the list of hamas. Live now to danny danon, a member of israels knesset. He sits on the Foreign Affairs and defence committee. Thank you for coming on the programme. Can i put to you this social media websites post we have heard in the last few minutes from hamas leader in the gaza strip, seeing we are ready for an Immediate Exchange deal that includes the release of all prisoners in the prisons of the zionist enemy, and exchange for the release of all prisoners with the resistance . Do you think thats full swap should take place . It you think thats full swap should take place . You think thats full swap should take lace . ,. , take place . It is not the first time that hamas take place . It is not the first time that hamas has take place . It is not the first time that hamas has conducted that hamas has conducted psychological warfare. They are trying to confuse everybody. There were full, serious negotiations in the last few days. We are trying to broker a deal with hamas and it didnt go anywhere. They are playing games of the negotiators, and we realise they are not serious about it. Ithink realise they are not serious about it. I think that now, when we started to apply more pressure against hamas, we are getting more terrorists, maybe that will create the atmosphere for serious negotiations. We are determined. We are determined to bring all hostages back to israel and to eliminate hamas. They are not going to escape from the atrocity they committed three weeks ago. Flan from the atrocity they committed three weeks ago. From the atrocity they committed three weeks ago. Can i ask you about that . We havent three weeks ago. Can i ask you about that . We havent forgotten three weeks ago. Can i ask you about that . We havent forgotten the that . We havent forgotten the massacre that . We havent forgotten the massacre. We that . We havent forgotten the massacre. We havent that . We havent forgotten the | massacre. We havent forgotten that . We havent forgotten the massacre. We havent forgotten the reaping. We havent forgotten the 30 babies that they kidnapped. We will get them and we will kill them. We havent forgotten the raping. The hostaaes we havent forgotten the raping. The hostages coming home, Benjamin Nutter new said he sees no contradiction between the twin aims of bringing the hostages home and Dismantling Hamas. Benjamin netanyahu. Do you think bringing hostages home is best achieved militarily with troops going in and taking them and bringing them home, or through them being released, potentially with an exchange deal, as the hamas leader suggested here . I think we will have to work on both. It will be complicated, as we put more pressure on hamas, but that will be the only way to get them to actually agree to any kind of negotiation. I think, actually agree to any kind of negotiation. Ithink, yes, we actually agree to any kind of negotiation. I think, yes, we have to put more pressure. I think that either way, to also move forward on the first goal of Defeating Hamas but also on releasing the hostages. Some of the families of those hostages dont want you to put more pressure on them. They said they expressed their concern about the Military Operation to the Prime Minister in that meeting earlier this evening. H0 minister in that meeting earlier this evening minister in that meeting earlier this evening. Minister in that meeting earlier this evenina. ,. ,. , this evening. No one can blame the families. Imagine this evening. No one can blame the families. Imagine you this evening. No one can blame the families. Imagine you had this evening. No one can blame the families. Imagine you had your families. Imagine you had your children in the hands of hamas, youre nine months old baby, you have children, that is horrible, so no one can blame them. They have the full rights to want their loved ones to come back home as soon as possible but we realise there is no other choice. We are not dealing with a state, we are dealing with a terrorist organisation, very evil, as we saw. And also now, they will use the hostages, manipulate many in the region, and thats why we believe we will have to apply more force in order to move forward with the hostages. The force in order to move forward with the hostages the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that this the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that this will the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that this will be the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that this will be long the hostages. The Prime Minister warned that this will be long and | warned that this will be long and difficult. Are you worried that the longer it goes on, the presumption would be that the greater the number of civilians would be killed is and israels international aloes will start to ask more questions . Lets start to ask more questions . Lets talk about the start to ask more questions . Lets talk about the length start to ask more questions . Lets talk about the length of start to ask more questions . Let� s talk about the length of the war. International allies. We have the strength, the commitment, we will win. We will defeat hamas. We will be guiding our troops and generals to do it slowly, because we dont want to increase the number of casualties to our forces and to the civilians in gaza. The hamas know they cannot win against the idf, but they cannot win against the idf, but they will try to increase the number of casualties of the idf and the civilians in gaza. So i think it is the smart way to move slowly, take the smart way to move slowly, take the time, in order to prevent casualties, both to us and to the civilians in gaza, and you take into consideration that they will try to see the scene you described to Bring International pressure. 0ur see the scene you described to Bring International pressure. Our goal is to minimise the victims and the casualties. That is why we encourage the population to move south. 80 already moved. This is the majority of the people. And i believe moore will hear our voice and will be able to go out. It is important to mention that even where we operate today in gaza, we allow a corridor foot civilians to move to the southern part of the gaza strip. The Roblem Southern Part of the gaza strip. The problem with moving south though is that there are still strikes in the south. There are still civilians at risk in the south, and secondly, they are not getting anywhere near they are not getting anywhere near the aid they need. Can you continue this second phase but actually let more aid in . This second phase but actually let more aid in . ,. , more aid in . You cannot compare the situation in more aid in . You cannot compare the situation in the more aid in . You cannot compare the situation in the northern more aid in . You cannot compare the situation in the northern part more aid in . You cannot compare the situation in the northern part will situation in the northern part will be operate to the southern part in terms of being in crossfire in a war zone, the unrwa and other International Organisations are working in the southern part, and we know there are initiatives to bring aids to the area. There is a challenge. Today, isaw aids to the area. There is a challenge. Today, i saw a tweet from unrwa that blames hamas for stealing fuel from facilities, and after that, the tweet was deleted because of hamas. So it is challenging to us to make sure that aid is going to the people in gaza and not to the terrorists. But the people in gaza and not to the terrorists. � ,. ,. ,. , terrorists. But is that a challenge that ou terrorists. But is that a challenge that you will terrorists. But is that a challenge that you will attempt . Terrorists. But is that a challenge that you will attempt . Because l terrorists. But is that a challenge j that you will attempt . Because it needs usually hundreds of trucks of aid and there is nowhere near that number and people have been displaced from their homes, there is no fuel coming in. I displaced from their homes, there is no fuel coming in. No fuel coming in. I think that ngos are important no fuel coming in. I think that ngos are important and no fuel coming in. I think that ngos are important and the no fuel coming in. I think that ngos are important and the internationall are important and the International Community should focus on building the mechanism to ensure that aid isnt stolen by hamas. You mention isnt stolen by hamas. You mention is the fuel for example, there wont be fuel for rockets to attack us, so they have to make sure that there is aid but it isnt going to the terrorists of high mass. Thank you ve much terrorists of high mass. Thank you very much for terrorists of high mass. Thank you very much for coming terrorists of high mass. Thank you very much for coming on terrorists of high mass. Thank you very much for coming on the very much for coming on the programme, danny dundon. The terrorists of hamas. 0ur Diplomatic Correspondent paul adams, whos injerusalem, gave us his assesment of the israeli leaders News Conference. It circled back endlessly, didnt it, to the subject of the hostages. That is what a lot of the questions were about. Benjamin netanyahu, in his opening remarks, actually made only a rather brief reference to meeting the hostages families. He said his heart broke talking to them, and that his ministry to them, and that his military was doing everything in its power to bring them home. He, as you mentioned just now, said there was no contradiction between these two objectives of fighting hamas, trying to destroy hamas, and bringing the hostages home. But he did say immediately after that that bringing the hostages home was, in his words, our second objective. The first, obviously being to destroy hamas. His Defence Minister was also asked about this and he said, and im quoting here, the more we hit out at them, we know that they will be willing to reach some kind of agreement. So, i think the message there was this relentless pressure on hamas is going to continue, that the Israeli Government believes that that is the way to bring hamas to some kind of negotiation about the fate of the hostages. Not, as some people, including representatives of the families themselves are arguing, not to suspend israels Military Operations at the moment and to devote all israels efforts to securing some kind of hostage release. We know that there are lots of intensive discussions going on, still involving the gulf state of qatar, who would very much like to try to orchestrate a hostage release. It is very hard, i have to say, it is very hard, particularly in light of the escalation that began about 2k hours ago to see those efforts bearing fruit. Thank you to paul for that. Just want to plug again, this Breaking News that actually, paul adams brought us. To flag again. On the official hamas website, we have heard for the first time, it seems, from hamas leader in the gaza strip, offering to release all hostages in return for the release of all hamas prisoners in israeli jails. The quote is, we are ready for an Immediate Exchange deal that includes the release of all prisoners in the prisons of the zionist enemy in exchange for the release of all prisoners with the resistance. We only have that from the website at the moment. We are working to verify and check on add a bit of context to that. We will bring that to you when we have it. Now though, lets take a quick pause, because israels intensive Bombing Campaign of gaza started last night and has gone on throughout today. It says it has launched an expanded Ground Operation too. 0ur International Editor jeremy bowen, sent this report from sderot in Southern Israel. Heavy artillery is pounding gaza constantly. The israelis say theyre making the earth shake. And, as residents of one of gaza citys Refugee Camps inspected what had happened in the night, that was how it felt. Its like an earthquake, said al ahmadi. No ones paying us attention. Its an execution. Many palestinians believe israel wants to force them out of gaza, and they interpret it as a threat, not a warning, when israel tells them again to move south from places like this. To the residents of Northern Gaza and gaza city, your window to act is closing. Move south for your own safety. Move south. This is not a mere precaution. It is an urgent plea for the safety of the civilians in gaza. In sderot, the israeli town closest to gaza, the streets where hamas killed civilians and soldiers three weeks ago today are deserted. The danger didnt stop zelah cohen and her son driving down here to bring a picnic to her daughters who are doing their military service. They sat down in a car park, not far from the border wire. The war, they said, was about survival. Hamas had shown it wanted to force them out. You can hear the war. Arent you scared . Im scared, but my daughter is here, so i go. I go where she is. And you bring lunch . Yes, to all the soldiers. You know, when you live side by side with people and you come to understand that you cannot trust them. So, what. . What do you do . What is the answer for that . What any other nation would have done . Much more than we are doing right now, and im assuring you, much more than we will ever do. The new phase of israels assault started last night with dozens of air strikes. Israel believes overwhelming Military Strength can pacify gaza. But Military Power alone has never brought lasting quiet, let alone peace, in this conflicts long history. Israel claimed one of its strikes killed a senior hamas commander. Israeli tanks and soldiers moved forward into the north of the gaza strip. Gazas visible from a hill in sderot. Israel will resist pressure for a c

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