and described them as looking like a spider web. her daughter helped translate her account. my mum is telling horrific stories, saying that a swarm of people came through the fence, it was two and a half million shells, and it didn't help feeling a little bit. my mum is saying that she was taking on the back of a motorbike, with her legs on one side, that she was taken through the ploughed fields with the men in front on one side and the man behind, and that while she was being taken, she was beaten with sticks. until they reached the tunnels. there... there, they walk for a few kilometres on the wet ground. there are huge networks of tunnels underneath, it looks like a spiders web. she also talked about how she was treated she also talked about how she was treate: , ., , treated when they arrive, they arrived into _ treated when they arrive, they arrived into a _ treated when they arrive, they arrived into a large... - treated when they arrive, they arrived into a large... 25 - arrived into a large... 25 hostages... after two or three hours, those hostages, five of them, she among them, were taken into a separate room. my mum is saying that they were very friendly towards them, and that they took care of them, and that they took care of them, that they were given a medicine... they were given medicine, and they were treated. one of the man with them had a badly injured are marie from a motorbike accident on the way. . he was looked after, his wounds, he was given medicine, antibiotics. the people were friendly, they kept the play is very clean. they were very concerned about them. very clean. they were very concerned about them-— about them. that was sharone lifshitz, translating _ about them. that was sharone lifshitz, translating for - about them. that was sharone i lifshitz, translating for yocheved lifshitz, translating for yocheved lifshitz, one of two elderly israeli hostages released overnight from gaza. her husband, sharone lifshitz�*s father, oded, remains as one of the hostages still in the gaza strip. in an attempt to contain the conflict, trying to stop it from spreading across the region, emmanuel macron visited israel today. speaking alongside his israeli counterpart isaac herzog, he said the first objective of the war should be to secure the release of all hostages. president macron added that it was israel's duty to fight against hamas "without enlarging the conflict." he's also due to visit the palestinian president mahmoud abbas in the occupied west bank today. if i'm here with my delegation, it is to express our support and solidarity. we share your pain. what happened on the 7th of october is an awful terrorist attack against your people, your nation, it is right. and, it was an immense shock for the whole planet, especially in france. i am here to express our solidarity today. i am here to express our solidarity toda . ., ., , i am here to express our solidarity toda . . ., , ., i am here to express our solidarity toda . . . , ., ., today. that was emmanuel macron s - eakin . today. that was emmanuel macron speaking earlier _ today. that was emmanuel macron speaking earlier today _ today. that was emmanuel macron speaking earlier today alongside i speaking earlier today alongside israel's president, isaac herzog. president macron is currently meeting benjamin netanyahu. this is part of a two—day visit to the region. what can he achieve this time? live now to francois—joseph schichan — he is a former french diplomat and a consultant at the strategic advisory firm flint global. thank you very much forjoining us today. of course, we havejust been hearing from one of the elderly israeli hostages who... they were both released overnight, we have been hearing about this particular hostage, yocheved lifshitz, how she was taken into the gaza strip and how she was treated. emmanuel macron says that releasing all of the hostages has to be a top priority of israel today. hostages has to be a top priority of israel today-— israel today. yes, this is one of the key objectives _ israel today. yes, this is one of the key objectives of _ israel today. yes, this is one of| the key objectives of emmanuel macron�*s a visit to the region, alongside showing unequivocal and unambiguous support to israel, and israel's right to defend itself. and also, at the same time, trying to avoid, working to avoid working towards avoiding escalating conflict in the region. the humanitarian situation in palestine, and gaza,, it is a very delicate exercise. i think that there are 2a french people who have been killed in the attack two weeks ago. and also, around seven people, perhaps, taken hostage. fruit —— french israeli dual nationals. hostage. fruit -- french israeli dual nationals.— hostage. fruit -- french israeli dual nationals. , . ., ., ., , ., ., dual nationals. dual nationals among the civilian population _ dual nationals. dual nationals among the civilian population inside - dual nationals. dual nationals among the civilian population inside gaza, i the civilian population inside gaza, t. we have seen many gaza civilians holding foreign passports in the air. they are obviously appealing to their governments to try to help them amongst them france. as you say, emmanuel macron is a very delicate balancing act here. he wants to stop the conflict spreading in the wider region, but expressing solidarity with israel, but also claim concern about palestinian civilians. what we have been hearing as anger amongst palestinians and in the wider middle east at western countries like france accusing no of hypocrisy, accusing them of not caring enough about palestinian civilians and in this case, emphasising as well�*s right to defining itself. they say, this was said again at the summit in cairo, that the west is hypocritical in its attitude towards ukrainians when russia invaded. the attitude towards ukrainians when russia invaded.— attitude towards ukrainians when russia invaded. the president has been clear about _ russia invaded. the president has been clear about the _ russia invaded. the president has| been clear about the humanitarian situation, with the need to protect civilians in the gaza strip. that has been constantly set by the government and the french president. so, there was a time at the start of the crisis where there was strong support and unequivocal support for israel which was necessary given the scale of the attack and the shock is represented in many if not all western and european countries in particular. and, ithink western and european countries in particular. and, i think that the purpose of the trip of the president to the region is really to deliver that message extremely strongly while taking steps and conveying the message that respecting international humanitarian law is also a very important, if not decisive element of the crisis to work towards a resolution so much. i think that this is also what the presidents trip is about, trying to start with discussion. he is going to meet mahmoud abbas. this is going to meet mahmoud abbas. this is going to be a long conflict. i think that the president is positioning france as a key person in the region to prepare the ground. this is going to take time and also require coordination among western countries and the eu. as we speak, he is also trying to call in a coherent position for the country going forward. it position for the country going forward. , ., ., , ., forward. it is, although it is not auoin forward. it is, although it is not going very _ forward. it is, although it is not going very well. _ forward. it is, although it is not going very well, there - forward. it is, although it is not going very well, there is - going very well, there is disagreement among ve 27 countries about their exact position here. we did see france release a statement alongside united states, canada, italy, germany, and the uk. there are attempts at trying to work together in diplomatic terms. this also hit home france directly, france is home to the biggestjewish community in europe and the biggest muslim community in europe. in france is worried about the conflict coming home. france is worried about the conflict coming home-— france is worried about the conflict coming home. absolutely, and that also exolains _ coming home. absolutely, and that also exolains why — coming home. absolutely, and that also explains why the _ coming home. absolutely, and that also explains why the president - coming home. absolutely, and that also explains why the president is l also explains why the president is waiting, has a few days before going into israel, there were some issues that needed to be addressed. we have seen some of the terror attacks in france shortly after the attack on israel that really shocked the country, and the president was very much focused on that for a few days. and will continue to be focused on that to protect the security. there is a clear sense that the crisis in the middle east is having a political impact in western countries. that has always been the case, but, you are right, especially in france, there is a specific situation here which means that there are huge ramifications for france socially and politically. we have also seen the crisis using the left—wing coalition in france because of the positioning of some political leaders. the conflict is starting also to affect the political landscape as a whole. and, it is a balancing exercise i was talking about for israel which also applies to france and the president is aiming at preserving stability in france. ., , , is aiming at preserving stability in france. ., , . ., france. francois-joseph schichan, former french _ france. francois-joseph schichan, former french diplomat, - france. francois-joseph schichan, former french diplomat, thank - france. francois-joseph schichan, | former french diplomat, thank you former french diplomat, thank you for your time. we were talking about the international diplomatic effort to try to spread the conflict spreading into the wider middle east region. well, in gaza, there were more intense israeli bombardments overnight and sell, say aid agencies, this increasing humanitarian catastrophe among civilians who are there waiting desperately for age. i'm a gaza correspondent rushdi abualouf told me what life is like now inside the gaza strip. less safe because israel asked people to flee south. they said, for your safety, go south. but last night, only about 100 strike in the south and 100 people killed in the south, including 13 members of one family who are from gaza city who were displaced and they were living in alcantara village. it's about like two or three kilometres here from khan yunis. they were killed all together, as i saw one of the survivors in the morning near the morgue here in khan yunis hospital. very angry mood. people were screaming, crying, shouting, even allowing journalists to film them or talk to them. very angry mood here. we were saying no place is safe. and now some some of the people who are here decided to go back to gaza city because about 300 air strikes overnight, like a third of them are in so—called safe area. so there is no point of people like staying in a safe area where it's hundreds like are targeted people. the local authority here always advise people to. they said in this statement this morning, don't buy the israeli lies. no place is safe. go back to your houses because no place is a safe house. talking about also this city is like, you know, it's the second largest city in gaza, but original people living here is about 400,000 people now. it's 1.2 million people in this overwhelmed city, the city that the capacity isn't designed to mean to take this number, no space in the schools, no space in the club, no space even in this hospital where we are staying. tens of tents around me. hundreds of people are sleeping in the ground. kids are begging for water, for food, for anything to to survive in this place. so people believe maybe they can find something better in gaza city because, you know, a large number of people left and they left behind some water, some fuel are stored. so people are seriously thinking of going back to the north and to gaza city because they told me there is no there is no place safe. so we were talking today to the chief executive of medical aid for palestinians who was underlining how much children are suffering in the current situation amongst palestinian civilians. it's the bombardment. it's also lack of, as you say, water and food. what are you hearing about convoys? is there another one expected today? yeah. we should know that half of the population are under 18, so, like, half of gazans are under 18. so whenever there is any strike, always we find here in the hospital kids, some of them like one year, some of them are five years. so kids are everywhere in every in every house. talking about convoy, we are hearing some news about another 20 trucks are going to be moved from the egyptian side to the palestinian side. as we understand, there is 4000 or more trucks are in the egyptian side. but the egyptians are saying that the israelis are making this mechanism very complicated by taking the trucks into nitzan, crossing near israel to check them. and that is slowing the process of moving the aid here. yesterday, when they said when they sent the tow trucks, i talked to the un and spokesman and he told me another drop in the ocean. so usually they used to receive 500 trucks and now it's only 20 truck when gaza need 30,000 trucks, as the local authority here said. i was speaking to rushdi abualouf inside gaza, a gaza referent alongside with his family. the suffering is spreading around the world. here, particularly in the middle east, they are inflaming passions and tensions leading to that fear that the conflict could spread. to the north of israel, there has been cross—border violence for days now between the radio or iranians backed hezbollah and israel's army over the border in israel. has intensified, people have been displaced in lebanon because of tensions on israeli border. our correspondent hugo bachega, who's in southern lebanon, told me more about the situation there that has been the reality for days here along the lebanese israeli border, these cross border attacks between groups here in lebanon, including hezbollah and the israeli army. and this morning, the lebanese caretaker prime minister, najib mikati, visited an army base in southern lebanon. it was the first time that he visited the southern region that has been the reality for days here along the lebanese israeli and obviously, this visit happens amid tensions here in this area that these attacks could escalate and lebanon could be dragged into the conflict. so obviously, all eyes are on hezbollah, which is this powerful lebanese movement, military, socio political organisation. and as i say, this group is supported by iran. and iran also supports a number of different groups across the region, in syria, in iraq and yemen. so when we talk about escalation of fighting in the region, an escalation could also happen in those countries. and i think it's interesting that in the last few days there have been a number of incidents in those countries of missiles being intercepted in yemen potentially targeting israel, us military bases or military bases being used by us troops being targeted in syria and iraq. and i think yesterday the white house national security adviser said that the biden administration was concerned that there could be that these attacks could intensify in the next few days. and i think from all conversations i've been having in the last few days, including with people who are very familiar with hezbollah, they believe that hezbollah�*s actions will be determined by what happens in gaza and if the israelis go ahead with this ground incursion into gaza. so tensions remain high here along this border with these cross border attacks between militants and the israeli army. but the reality is that tensions are high all across the region. absolutely. and as you say, iran's a very clear backing of hezbollah. also, iran supports hamas inside gaza as well. so those big concerns of escalation and as real signs of that on the ground, civilians being cleared from the area where you are next to the boundary with israel. and on the other side, of course, in northern israel at 20,000 civilians have been sent away, more than that actually, from their homes in recent days. exactly. and yesterday we went to some villages along the border and many residents have left. one village was completely deserted. and i think yesterday for the first time, we had a figure of how many people have left their homes here in lebanon, 19,000, according to the international organisation for migration. so thousands of people have left their homes here in southern lebanon since this war broke out. and i think, you know, that gives you a sense of how concerned people are. many still remember the devastation caused by the 2006 war between israel and hezbollah. so, you know, tensions are high and people are really concerned and thousands of them are living these border villages here and thousands of them are leaving these border villages here in southern lebanon. that's all from jerusalem for this hour. let's go back to catherine byaruhanga in the studio in london for the rest of the day's news. we will be coming back to you in the next hour. an inquest has begun in new zealand into the deaths of 51 people killed by a white supremacist four years ago. the australian attacker is already serving a life sentence over the attacks at two mosques in christchurch.ad on in christchurch. our correspondent phil mercer spoke to us. this inquiry in new zealand is the country's biggest and most complex inquest. it aims to look into the past of those awful events of march 15, 2019, and also to look to the future to make recommendations to ensure that an atrocity of this kind never happens again. there will be fundamental questions for the coronial investigations, to try to answer. it will look at the immediate emergency response after the gunmen stormed those two mosques in the city of christchurch new zealand's south island. it will also ask other questions: was the gunmen acting alone? did he have direct help from anyone else? and also: it will look at specific concerns about, for example, an emergency exit at one of the mosques that apparently was faulty, and may well have prevented some of those worshippers escaping the gunmen. the gunman. many questions for the inquiry to try to answer... survivors and families of the victims and said that the truth, the bigger picture, the full picture of what happened four and a half years ago is an essential part on their journey towards healing. why has it taken so long for this inquiry to take place? if i understand this correctly, the events of that day four years ago have not been fully investigated because the man who was convicted pleaded guilty. i think that what we have had in the intervening 11.5 years is protracted criminal proceedings against brenton tarrant. he is serving a life in prison with no possibility of parole on 51 counts of murder. 41 counts of attempted murder. a0 counts of attempted murder. and an act of terrorism. those criminal proceedings have time to be protracted, there is a royal commission. now it's time for this long—awaited inquiry to continue. it will take an estimated six weeks. philm mercer there. scientists say it is impossible to prevent the melting of the west antarctic ice sheets are melting caused by greenhouse emissions. iam going i am going to entrap myself, we go to israel where emmanuel macron is speaking to netanyahu. this to israelwhere emmanuel macron is speaking to netanyahu.— to israelwhere emmanuel macron is speaking to netanyahu. this was the worst 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second world war, _ nazis, and as in the second world war. when— nazis, and as in the second world war, when the allies fully supported the french— war, when the allies fully supported the french anti—nazi resistance, today, _ the french anti—nazi resistance, today, the — the french anti—nazi resistance, today, the international community is uniting _ today, the international community is uniting in— today, the international community is uniting in support of israel. i5 uniting in support of israel. hamas— i5 uniting in support of israel. hamas barbarism not only threatens the jews. _ hamas barbarism not only threatens the jews. it — hamas barbarism not only threatens the jews, it threatens the middle east, _ the jews, it threatens the middle east, the — the jews, it threatens the middle east, the region, europe, the world. hamas— east, the region, europe, the world. hamas is— east, the region, europe, the world. hamas is a _ east, the region, europe, the world. hamas is a test case of civilisation against _ hamas is a test case of civilisation against barbarism. mr president, you and the _ against barbarism. mr president, you and the french people have known the horror— and the french people have known the horror of— and the french people have known the horror of terrorism, you experienced it in niece. _ horror of terrorism, you experienced it in niece, lyon, paris. you must be used _ it in niece, lyon, paris. you must be used to— it in niece, lyon, paris. you must be used to tolerate the threat. the people _ be used to tolerate the threat. the people of— be used to tolerate the threat. the people of israel refuse to have isi5 in a terror— people of israel refuse to have isi5 in a terror enclave on it's border. i in a terror enclave on it's border. i must _ in a terror enclave on it's border. i must explain: this is not an enclave _ i must explain: this is not an enclave of— i must explain: this is not an enclave of i5i5, thousands of kilometres away from europe. it is isi5 kilometres away from europe. it is isis in_ kilometres away from europe. it is isis in the — kilometres away from europe. it is isi5 in the suburbs of paris. it is isi5 in the suburbs of paris. it is isis where — isi5 in the suburbs of paris. it is isi5 where you can drive 20 minutes and you _ isi5 where you can drive 20 minutes and you reach the suburbs of paris, and you reach the suburbs of paris, and you _ and you reach the suburbs of paris, and you have — and you reach the suburbs of paris, and you have isi5 there. we cannot live like _ and you have isi5 there. we cannot live like that, no one can live like that _ live like that, no one can live like that we — live like that, no one can live like that we are _ live like that, no one can live like that. we are doing everything we need _ that. we are doing everything we need to— that. we are doing everything we need to do— that. we are doing everything we need to do to destroy hamas in gaza. we will— need to do to destroy hamas in gaza. we will dismantle it'5 terror machine. _ we will dismantle it'5 terror machine, it'5 political structure, we will— machine, it'5 political structure, we will make every effort to release our hostages, and we will make every effort _ our hostages, and we will make every effort to _ our hostages, and we will make every effort to keep palestinian civilians out of _ effort to keep palestinian civilians out of harm's way. it is important to understand: hamas i5 committing a double _ to understand: hamas i5 committing a double war— to understand: hamas i5 committing a double war crime: it is not only murdering _ double war crime: it is not only murdering and targeting our civilians. _ murdering and targeting our civilians, doing unspeakable war crimes, — civilians, doing unspeakable war crimes, they are also hiding behind civilians. _ crimes, they are also hiding behind civilians, their own civilians. we ask the — civilians, their own civilians. we ask the people of gaza to leave, to id ask the people of gaza to leave, to go to— ask the people of gaza to leave, to go to a _ ask the people of gaza to leave, to go to a safe — ask the people of gaza to leave, to go to a safe zone in the south where we are _ go to a safe zone in the south where we are enabling humanitarian need to reach _ we are enabling humanitarian need to reach them _ we are enabling humanitarian need to reach them. hamas i5 we are enabling humanitarian need to reach them. hamas is putting checkpoints with people with guns to prevent _ checkpoints with people with guns to prevent palestinians from leaving the war— prevent palestinians from leaving the war zone. hamas i5 prevent palestinians from leaving the war zone. hamas is responsible for civilian — the war zone. hamas is responsible for civilian casualties, but we will do every— for civilian casualties, but we will do every effort to avoid them and to fi-ht do every effort to avoid them and to fight this— do every effort to avoid them and to fight this war as speedily and as rapidlv— fight this war as speedily and as rapidly as— fight this war as speedily and as rapidly as we can, but it could be a lon- rapidly as we can, but it could be a long war~ _ rapidly as we can, but it could be a long war. when this is over, the people — long war. when this is over, the people of— long war. when this is over, the people of israel will rebuild their communities, and the people of gaza will no _ communities, and the people of gaza will no longer live and a mass's —— hamass— will no longer live and a mass's —— hamas's tyranny. first, there is one condition: _ hamas's tyranny. first, there is one condition: and that condition is that hamas must be destroyed. i thank— that hamas must be destroyed. i thank you. — that hamas must be destroyed. i thank you, emmanuel macron, for coming _ thank you, emmanuel macron, for coming to— thank you, emmanuel macron, for coming to israel, for standing with israel. _ coming to israel, for standing with israel. for— coming to israel, for standing with israel, for sunny with us in israel, and for— israel, for sunny with us in israel, and for expressing your support. we rely on _ and for expressing your support. we rely on your— and for expressing your support. we rely on your continued support as it's important battle for our future, _ it's important battle for our future, our common future, proceeds until victorv — future, our common future, proceeds until victory. thank you.— untilvictory. thank you. thank you very much. — untilvictory. thank you. thank you very much. mr _ untilvictory. thank you. thank you very much, mr prime _ untilvictory. thank you. thank you very much, mr prime minister. - until victory. thank you. thank you i very much, mr prime minister. thank you for your words. i want to thank you for your words. i want to thank you for your words. i want to thank you for the discussion we had together and with the litigation, i am here to express our support and solidarity, and our support for today, tomorrow, in all different fields of this battle against terrorism. if you will allow me, i will say a few words in french. i do not know if there is translation, i will ensure that you understand. he speaks french he speaks french you are listening to a press conference with the french president emmanuel macron and the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. president macron is a visit to the country. we are waiting to see if we can get an english translation because he is now speaking in french. mr macron is on a two—day visit to israel following the attacks by her mass on the country on october the 7th. during his visit, he has also held a meeting with the president of israel, isaac herzog. he is there, he has said before, to stand shoulder to shoulder with israeli leaders during what he calls a difficult time for the country. earlier on, before this, he met members of families affected by hamas's attacks on israel. he said earlier: i saw some families have lost hilton, brothers, and some of the families waiting for hostages. these are hostages being held hostage by hamas in gaza. he earlier said: i do share your view, the first objective we have today asked me to speak to the israeli president, he said the objective is the release of hostages without distinction. this is an ongoing press conference between the president of france, emmanuel macron, and the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. he speaks french