What it would like to see between what it would like to see between saudi arabia and israel . I� m between saudi arabia and israel . Im not between saudi arabia and israel . Not tracking between saudi arabia and israel . In not tracking or aware of a certain threat. Youre talking posed october seven. Im not aware of some Homework Assignment they submitted. We still believe those talks are important. We still want to pursue normalisation. We understand that both in israel and riyadh theres a different focus right now, we get that. We still believe there is great value in pursuing normalisation and we have every intention of keeping that going. Thank you. What kind of humanitarian aid with thank you. What kind of humanitarian aid with the thank you. What kind of humanitarian aid with the us like to see reaching palestinians before israel launches aground palestinians before israel launches a Ground Invasion . Palestinians before israel launches a Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . A Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . Im a Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . Im occer a Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . Im occer to a Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . Im occer to sit a Ground Invasion . Cannot bifurcate that question . Im occer to sit here| that question . Im occer to sit here it assume theres going to be some sort of a Ground Invasion. Im certainly not to speak to a hypothetical timing if theres going to be. Humanitarian system at large, and you heard, were getting food, water, the medicine into gaza, not enough. There been three convoys, a little less than 60 trucks, thats a good start but it is just a start. We want to see keep going. I think over the coming days youll continue to see convoys of trucks getting in. Its also an issue of fuel. We know that you need fuel to run Power Generators in hospitals for the to run the problems in the Desalination Facility so that people can drink fresh healthy water. Fuel is another thing were working on. Thing were working on. Whether or not there is thing were working on. Whether or not there is a thing were working on. Whether or not there is a ground thing were working on. Whether or not there is a Ground Invasion, thing were working on. Whether or not there is a Ground Invasion, do | not there is a Ground Invasion, do you view not there is a Ground Invasion, do you view humanitarian aid getting their first you view humanitarian aid getting their first as important . You view humanitarian aid getting their first as important . Whether or not theres a their first as important . Whether or not theres a ground their first as important . Whether or not theres a Ground Invasion, their first as important . Whether or not theres a Ground Invasion, we i not theres a Ground Invasion, we believe humanitarian assistance flowing to the people of gaza is critically important and need to go as soon as possible and as much as possible. As soon as possible and as much as ossible. ~ , possible. Where it is the president said on this . Possible. Where it is the president said on this . There possible. Where it is the president said on this . There was possible. Where it is the president said on this . There was confusion | said on this . There was confusion over said on this . There was confusion over the said on this . There was confusion over the weekend whether or not he had said over the weekend whether or not he had said that yes, he does want isreel had said that yes, he does want israet to had said that yes, he does want israel to wait until humanitarian assistance israel to wait until humanitarian assistance can get to the palestinians before any invasion. We have palestinians before any invasion. Have been palestinians before any invasion. Have been Crystal Clear with our partners in the region including israel that we want to see humanitarian assistance flow. Theres no change or posture at all. Tuesdays question, were not dictating terms to the Israel Defense forces. They have a right and responsibility to go after terrace it will do that in a way that they choose, believe it is appropriate to the threat. Tara wrestled up will support them providing capabilities to provide to prosecute and continue to flow of the course of the weekend. And it will. Were not dictating terms to them. ,. , ,. , will. Were not dictating terms to them. ,. , them. Un secretarygeneral, barb oli them. Un secretarygeneral, barb policy chief. Them. Un secretarygeneral, barb policy chief, leaders them. Un secretarygeneral, barb policy chief, leaders are them. Un secretarygeneral, barb policy chief, leaders are calling policy chief, leaders are calling for humanitarian. Will that us . What for humanitarian. Will that us . What we for humanitarian. Will that us . What we want right now is make sure israel has the tools it takes to defend itself and go after hamas. It started and its a good thing, we want to keep it going and keep it sustainable. That is what were focused on. Sustainable. That is what were focused on sustainable. That is what were focused on. ,. , , focused on. You mentioned yesterday what president focused on. You mentioned yesterday what President Biden focused on. You mentioned yesterday what President Biden ask focused on. You mentioned yesterday what President Biden ask israel focused on. You mentioned yesterday what President Biden ask israel to what President Biden ask israel to protect what President Biden ask israel to protect civilians. The death toll in gaza protect civilians. The death toll in gaza is protect civilians. The death toll in gaza is rising sharply. Is israel abiding gaza is rising sharply. Is israel abiding by gaza is rising sharply. Is israel abiding by International Law, are they listening . Abiding by International Law, are they listening . Were not to parcel out each and they listening . Were not to parcel out each and every they listening . Were not to parcel out each and every event they listening . Were not to parcel| out each and every event especially since were not there. I can tell you there hasnt been a conversation that weve had with israeli counterparts. We had moments where were notjust talking about counterparts. We had moments where were not just talking about what they want to do but how they want to do it. ,. , they want to do but how they want to do it. , g. , do it. That was john kirbys speaking. Do it. That was john kirbys speaking, national do it. That was john kirbys speaking, National Securityj speaking, National Security spokesperson at the white house. Earlier today the io Foreign Policy chief said that israels right to defence has limits. Speaking after in Eu Foreign Affairs meeting saying israel had to act within humanitarian law and said water and electricity should not be cut off. Yes, we support a two state solution. Yes, we consider that the right to defence as any right has limits. The limits are the limits of International Law. We have said that several times. And we repeat it again. In particular, this means that they are cannot be cutting all water and electricity for the civilian population. According to humanitarian law, a population under siege cannot be deprived of water and electricity. Brute siege cannot be deprived of water and electricity. Siege cannot be deprived of water and electricity. We can speak now to lobb as a and electricity. We can speak now to lobby as a minister and electricity. We can speak now to lobby as a minister for and electricity. We can speak now to lobby as a minister for foreign lobby as a minister for foreign affairs. He was at that meeting. Thank you for coming on the program. A lot of talk in that meeting about a pause in gaza for that they didnt want to mention the word cease fire but a pause. There are conflicting responses to that by the individual countries within the eu. What is your stance on that . Mr; countries within the eu. What is your stance on that . Countries within the eu. What is your stance on that . My eyes stands in the way i your stance on that . My eyes stands in the way i understand your stance on that . My eyes stands in the way i understand basically in the way i understand basically where we all are three or four. One is full support for the state of israel, which is been attacked by the terrorist Organisation Hamas to defend itself and has a responsibility to defend itself the second is a full condemnation of hamas and the brutal attacks it waged on israeli citizens. They did not go after army post, they went after citizens was a clear act of terrorism. They are concerned is the humanitarian situation. Everyone understands that palestinians are not terrace, hamas is terrace but they are deeply embedded with in palestinian society, Civil Society in gaza. We take russias war in ukraine that the russian army, you have Ukrainian Army and civilian separates, resident dues russians are bombing, clearly hitting civilian infrastructure its not a mistake, its an hour on purpose because the army is in front and they are behind the ukrainian line, thatis they are behind the ukrainian line, that is civilians. In israels case they are working to root out hamas, they are working to root out hamas, the terrorist organisation which is completely understandable and will be good for the world if this organisation is rooted out. The problem is that terrorists are embedded in using civilians as human shields. That makes the situation extremely difficult. Were speaking with our israeli friends to really consider and measure how fast to wage the military operation, taking full account of the need to protect civilians and protect palestinians in gaza. ~. , civilians and protect palestinians in gaza. ~. , civilians and protect palestinians ingaza. ~. , in gaza. What about with Joseph Burwell was in gaza. What about with Joseph Burwell was saying about in gaza. What about with Joseph Burwell was saying about water| in gaza. What about with Joseph Burwell was saying about water and electricity should not be cut off . Is he speaking for all as an individual . He is he speaking for all as an individual . Is he speaking for all as an individual . ,. , individual . He made it clear it was his individual individual . He made it clear it was his individual stance. Individual . He made it clear it was his individual stance. But individual . He made it clear it was his individual stance. But certainly| his individual stance. But certainly all of us are very concerned about the plight of civilians its clear. For example its only 8 of water as it receives from israel progresses Desalination Plants but they need fuel to run. Its getting they need fuel to run. Its getting the fuel to run so they can desalinate, which is critical. We have to have humanitarian aid coming in, out of egypt was of its Tens Of Lorries now a day prior to the hostilities it was hundreds. A long way to go. It is important to get that aid through because of course water is the basis of human life. We know the dire situation in the hospitals, we know the wounded, Everything Else going on. Its important that this aid does get through. Important that this aid does get throu~h. ,. ,. , , through. Yes. How much unity is they are . You know through. Yes. How much unity is they are . You know theres through. Yes. How much unity is they are . You know theres criticism are . You know theres criticism of the eu over terms of its conflicting messaging since the attack on October The 7th with different country saying Different Things. As we were implying they are, your representatives of your group saying Different Things to what the group believes. What im trying to ask is, has anything come out of that meeting that you agree on that you are going to be pushing for in terms of a pause in fighting so aid can get in, would you say is a very much needed . , get in, would you say is a very much needed . ,. , needed . The wanting everyone agrees u on is that needed . The wanting everyone agrees upon is that we needed . The wanting everyone agrees upon is that we have needed . The wanting everyone agrees upon is that we have to needed . The wanting everyone agrees upon is that we have to ask needed . The wanting everyone agrees upon is that we have to ask europe upon is that we have to ask europe work much more rapidly and implementing the two state solution. Because at the end we dont only need a cease fire, which would be wonderful if everyone stops shooting come up with israel im sure they would stick to the word out with hamas we need a true solution to the conflict about him which is a two state solution. Thats what the eu can and should put its weight behind where we do have a good argument in a good ability to influence that for that when everyone is talking about now is the very short term. Personally, i think it would be fantastic if there would be ineffective cease fire some more humanitarian aid will come in. The question is, who would be enforcing that cease fire and how do we make sure that it actually works . One of the parties involved is not democratically elected state held accountable to its voters. But it is hamas, which the european union, the us and others acknowledge as a terrorist organisation. Its a very difficult situation where i think all of us are quite frustrated. From the european side, when different leaders are saying Different Things theyre actually emphasising one of theyre actually emphasising one of the three or four aspects was up some are emphasising the aspect of the fact that israel has the right to defend itself and hamas is a terrorist organisation needs to be rooted out. That is true. Others are emphasising the humanitarian plight of innocent palestinian civilians, which is also true these are not contradictions they are just different sides of the same difficult puzzle. Different sides of the same difficult puzzle. Thank you for oinin difficult puzzle. Thank you for joining us difficult puzzle. Thank you for joining us. Lottie difficult puzzle. Thank you for joining us. Lottie is difficult puzzle. Thank you for joining us. Lottie is a difficult puzzle. Thank you for| joining us. Lottie is a minister difficult puzzle. Thank you for joining us. Lottie is a minister for joining us. Lottie is a ministerfor foreign affairs. Lets turn our attention to other news. Sweden has just taken a step closer to nato membership for that the turkish president has submitted swedens bin for ratification to turkeys parliament. Mrwong for ratification to turkeys parliament. Mr wong had rejected to the application because he believed stockholm was not doing enough to clamp down on Kurdish Separatists living in sweden for the terrorist and hungry are the only Countries Holding out against swedens application. Lets speak to our Diplomatic Correspondent in the studio. ~ , Diplomatic Correspondent in the studio. , ,~. , studio. Why exactly did they change their mind . Studio. Why exactly did they change their mind . A studio. Why exactly did they change their mind . A question. Studio. Why exactly did they change their mind . A question. We studio. Why exactly did they change their mind . A question. We dont i their mind . A question. We dont know because even as recent as the last two or three weeks turkish parliamentarians have continued to voice their objections put up turkeys long standing concerns have been that sweden in its view has not been that sweden in its view has not been doing enough to tackle what it sees as kurdish separatist. It hasnt done enough to try and reduce anti islamic protests. It didnt feel that swedens law or prosecutors were doing enough to tackle people who were burning the koran in the streets in stockholm and things like that. That was the overt reason why turkey was resisting. But turkey tightens its laws and injuly this year the president of turkey announced to all nato members that his objections have been met and he would now support sweden becoming a nato member. Weve had to wait until now to get even the legislation to come before turkeys parliament. We still get away for Mcadoo Parliament To Process was up there is no timetable. As you say we still got hungry. Turkey. If you talk timetable. As you say we still got hungiy � turkey. If you talk to officials they do expect hungry to follow suit once israel ratifies its process. Itjust shows how long this is taken. Your original question, do we know if theres anything else in the next . Wejust dont we know if theres anything else in the next . We just dont know. We know if theres anything else in the next . Wejust dont know. Have the next . Wejust dont know. Have the americans done anything to sweeten the deal . We note turks privately have been pushing for a long time to get access to american f16 long