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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The 20240703

Bullingham says the fa had sought Expert Guidance on the israel gaza issue before reaching its decision. India have made it four wins from four at the cricket world cup, with a comfortable victory this afternoon. The tournament hosts were set 257 to win by bangladesh opener litton das top scoring with 66. India never really looked in too much trouble though, once again it was virat kohli who anchored the chase. He hit a magnificent century. This six with the last ball of the innins took him to three figures. 103 not out for him. India winning by seven wickets with more than eight overs to spare. They play new zealand next, on sunday. Now, theres just under 2a hours until the start of the Rugby World Cup semi finals with argentina playing 3 time champions new zealand, whilst england take on defending champions south africa on saturday. And ahead of that match england have named their team. Theyve made three changes with Freddie Steward returning at full back in place of marcus smith whos been ruled out through injury. Joe marler and George Martin also come into the side. England will go into the semi final as underdogs but their head coach isnt too concerned about that. I think this team has progressed. Through each week we have had in this tournament and we have built and we have built and we have built, and whatever situation the players find them subs in the game, the players have found a way to get to the result they want in the end of it. We know this game is different, every game is different, but i also know we have got a great group of players who care deeply about representing england and want to put on a performance that our supporters are proud of tonight. South africa have also named their team and its unchanged from the 15 that beat france in that thrilling quarter final last weekend. That means Marnie Libbok continues at fly half, ahead of Handre Pollard while Cobus Reinach keeps his place ahead of faf de klerk. So thats saturday, but the first semi final takes place tomorrow evening with argentina up against new zealand, also in paris. The pumas have defied expectation, after losing heavily to england in their first group match, reaching the semis for the third time in world cup history. They face a huge task though against the all blacks who are coming off the back of that Epic Quarterfinal Win against ireland. We are going to have to improve our performance because the stage get bigger and bigger at this time of the tournament and you have got to grow your game, and that is our strong focus. We are not buying into anything about favouritism or underdogs or whatever. It doesnt make any difference to us. We know we have to perform at our best and that is the only way were approaching this game. And thats all the sport for now. Earlier today, israels defence minister, yoav gallant,visited the Infantry Massed at the gaza border and he told them that very soon see they will see the palestinian territory from the inside. There is no forgiveness for this thing, he said. Only total annihilation of hamas. It will take a week, it will take a month, it will take two months, until we eliminate them. The americans are full square behind israels right to defend itself. But they are concerned that a Ground Incursion would risk the war spreading to the northern border. In fact today the Israeli Military said 20 rockets were fired from Lebanon Intoto the Western Galilee area of northern israel. The Israel Defense forces responded with shelling, so lets get a view from someone who knows lebanon well. Kim ghattas was born two years into the civil war in lebanon. In fact herfamily lived on the front lines, between east and west beirut. She is the author of black wave and a distinguished fellow, of the Columbia University institute of global politics. He wrote a really fascinating piece in the Financial Times the other day which caught my eye and you said that every attempts to wipe out palestinian militant groups on the forage is more extreme iterations. Are you worried that this Ground Incursion that might be upon us might eventually spread to your home country . fist might eventually spread to your home count . �. ,. , country . At the moment, there are two separate country . At the moment, there are two separate elements country . At the moment, there are two separate elements to country . At the moment, there are two separate elements to this two separate elements to this equation. What might happen to gaza and what might happen to hamas and what does it look like to eliminate them . There are lots of scenarios out there, including comparisons to what happened to the Palestinian Liberation Organisation in 1982 when the israelis invaded lebanon, pushed them out, and the plo with a leader at the time, got on the ship and sailed off to the tune easier. Its hard to see how this would work out if this were to unfold in a similarfashion with out if this were to unfold in a similar fashion with hamas militants, but we are not there yet. What we are more worried about now in lebanon is the potentialfor an escalation on the border between lebanon and israel. There have been exchanges of fire over the last few weeks, over the last few days since the October Attack. In a sense, hezbollah, which is notjust a local militia a political group, but also a regional Paramilitary Force of foot soldiers with forces in syria, yemen and iraq, has hezbollah needs to show us apart, but at the same time it needs to calculated very carefully because my sense is that neither they or iran want to fall on war with israel. And certainly the chorus of voices out of lebanon at the moment is, yes, support for the palestinian cause, but we do not want to be dragged into another war. So the idea that there may be another iteration of a more militant, more extreme version of hamas is a little bit far off, but the general idea that you can wipe out an Extremist Group and go on to discuss peace of the neighbours simply doesnt work. There must be concessions to the palestinians and a political horizon for them. I palestinians and a political horizon for them. , , palestinians and a political horizon for them. , ,. ~. , for them. I went to come back to the hezbollah issue, for them. I went to come back to the hezbollah issue, but for them. I went to come back to the hezbollah issue, but you for them. I went to come back to the hezbollah issue, but you are right, l hezbollah issue, but you are right, in the way that in five words that israel has fought with hamas, things have hardened. I was listening today to the us general who is a big military thinker, as you know, and he talked about the after Action Reports that were drawn up post 201a. He said that conflict lasted 50 days. The conclusions that were drawn back then was that hamas would want to increase rackets can expand their tunnel network, prepare for a longer conflict, incorporates new tactics and new technologies, all of which has come to pass. Things have not got easier for israelis in these conflicts, theyve got progressively worse. Absolutely, which is why got progressively worse. Absolutely, which is why even got progressively worse. Absolutely, which is why even the got progressively worse. Absolutely, which is why even the americans which is why even the americans inprivate are telling the israelis, what is your plan exactly . Be wary of Military Plans that are based on revenge and retaliation because that is what lead america down the wrong path after 9 11 into decades of war iraq and afghanistan for which frankly the United States has nothing to show for except for quite a mess in both countries. So those are the private warnings, of course, in public, President Biden has come to hug the israeli Prime Minister in the nation of israel to show support for israel, but their sense is that they need to do that so they can have the tough conversations in private. Establish trust and then ask the tough questions inprivate. Is there a risk once this Ground Incursion begins and the casualties pile up that eventually hezbollah has no option that pressure in the arab world build to such a point that although it would be disastrous for lebanon at this particular time and with the economic crisis it faces, therejust and with the economic crisis it faces, there just is and with the economic crisis it faces, therejust is no and with the economic crisis it faces, there just is no other alternative but to get involved. It is very hard to tell exactly how things are, the indications are that hezbollah does not want this to escalate because, ultimately, hezbollah is also a key line of defence for iran, and the islamic or public of iran is worried about its own survival, generally, always, but particularly in the last few years because of economic pressures, and the fact that its neighbours are cosying up to israel, so it does feel encircled. Iran may be willing to come in essence, sacrifice hamas for the cause to which it mostly pays lip service, rarely with some help with weapons and arms, but it has never really delivered much progress for the palestinians on the ground. But it is not going to want to sacrifice hezbollah, which is key, and which it will want to keep in case it feels that tehran is under threat. So at the moment, where everybody is calibrating very carefully and the Secretary General Of Hezbollah has not spoken yet and the 12 days since the 7th of October Attack and he has not spoken yet, which is very unusual, which tells you that they are being very careful. Inprivate, in my conversations with western diplomats and arab officials, i am hearing that the are looking for a way to de escalate, to make sure this does not become a regional conflict, but Mismatch Calculations happen and a lot hinges on how the Military Campaign unfolds in gaza and how high the death toll is. High the death toll is. From your conversations high the death toll is. From your conversations with high the death toll is. From your conversations with people high the death toll is. From your conversations with people in high the death toll is. From your. Conversations with people in beirut, for people who dont understand the way that the government is formed, hezbollah is one part of it. Their other communities that have a stake in what happens to lebanon, but when i hearfrom lebanese government officials, it is almost, it is almost as if they defer to hezbollah when they talk about lebanons defence, is that how it feels to you, and does lebanon in the other communities in some way feel rather helpless in all of this . Helpless in all of this . Well, lebanon in helpless in all of this . Well, Lebanon In General helpless in all of this . Well, Lebanon In General feels helpless in all of this . Well, i Lebanon In General feels rather Lebanon In Generalfeels rather helpless because over the last three years, it has been through a herb economic crisis. The Part Explosion in beirut in 2021, and that has really brought the country to its knees. Add to that, there is actually no president. We failed to elect a president since the last one was in position in october. Its been a year. We have a caretaking cabinet, so there really is no one in charge, and effectively that hasnt stopped the international community, the us, the french, the germans, to make clear to the caretaking government that they are in charge and that they must assume their responsibilities and make sure their responsibilities and make sure the country doesnt get dragged into a war. Because we have been to war before haswell in 2006 and the israeli response was devastating for this country with 1200 dead and really terrible damage to the civilian infrastructure across the country. So what you are hearing todayis country. So what you are hearing today is not so much the government speaking out against the potential for war, speaking out against the potential forwar, but speaking out against the potential for war, but various politicians, members of parliament, entrepreneur is saying we support the palestinian cause, but we have paid our dues and this and we will have to see how that weighs on hezbollah. And im sure it does, which is again what they think they are calibrating so carefully because they have had a lot of tension with the various communities in lebanon over the last few years. Lovely to see ou. Over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank you over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank you for over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank you for coming i over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank you for coming in j over the last few years. Lovely to see you. Thank you for coming in the programme this evening. Israel is certainly not taking any chances. It has mobilised 360,000 reservists. Boeing says it is Speeding Delivery to israel of 1,800 kits that convert unguided bombs into precision munitions. The expedited deliveries of Thejdam Kits Stem from a 2021 order valued at about 735 million. The sale provided for deliveries over several years has now been accelerated. The kits are for bombs of 200 kilos and heavier. Lets unpack this with mikey kay, former raf pilot and military strategist. Thank you for your patience. Tell us first of all what we are talking about, what sort of equipment would this be used for . So about, what sort of equipment would this be used for . This be used for . So its a oint direct attack i this be used for . So its a oint direct attack munition. H this be used for . So its a oint direct attack munition. It h this be used for . So its a joint direct attack munition. It is this be used for . So its a joint direct attack munition. It is a l this be used for . So its a joint. Direct attack munition. It is a kit that can be strapped onto what is called a Freefall Bomb and the size of the warhead that we are talking about can go from £250,1000 of the warhead that we are talking about can go from £250, 1000 lb 2000 liber, what it does is it takes a munition 2002 and it converts it by putting a tail on the back of which is called a gps or initial nab system on the back. He plug in court next to that potential target and what it will do is it is dropped from an aircraft and it will hit that target with a tolerance of around ten metres. So it is supremely accurate. And it is utilised heavily in urban environments where a cde, Collateral Damage estimate is taken on particular targets, and that Collateral Damage estimate suggests that there are, you know, high buildings, significant civilian population, so that weapon will be used to minimise collateral in circumstances. This isnt the first time that israel have got these kits from the us between 2012 and 2015, they ordered 12,000 of them, but just to put that into context, the idf have come out and said that in the first five days of the war, over 6000 bombs were dropped on how so thats about 1200 a day, so you can see the size of the arsenal that israel are looking at the moment, hence the acceleration of these kits. ~. ,. ,. , hence the acceleration of these kits. ,. ,. ,. , ~ hence the acceleration of these kits. ~. ,. ,. ~. Kits. We are going to talk later in the programme kits. We are going to talk later in the programme about kits. We are going to talk later in the programme about president l the programme about President Biden� s address to the nation tonight. He is obviously going to talk notjust about israel that about ukraine as well. When you see in order like this, does it, showed it to raise concerns that this is going to put more pressure on already strained inventories to the detriment of ukraine . I already strained inventories to the detriment of ukraine . Detriment of ukraine . I think the Ca Abili Detriment of ukraine . I think the capability that detriment of ukraine . I think the capability that is detriment of ukraine . I think the capability that is going detriment of ukraine . I think the capability that is going to detriment of ukraine . I think the | capability that is going to ukraine is quite significantly different in some aspects of the capability that is going to israel. So, for example, the us Have Supplied so far 24 billion in military weapons to ukraine with an additional 5 billion on top of that, so just under 30 billion of grants which has allowed ukraine to purchase the necessary equipment that needs, and we are talking about things like the abrams battlefield tank, we are talking about the patriot anti aircraft, nt Cruise Missile system, we are talking about coastal siege defences, talking about surveillance, radar. In this latest purchase thats going to israel from may of 2021, the two key aspects in that where the capability and also all to artillery shells. The us provides just all to artillery shells. The us providesjust under 4 all to artillery shells. The us provides just under 4 billion worth of military aid to israel a year. So, you know, ithink very of military aid to israel a year. So, you know, i think very much to focus at the moment by the us is on ukraine and will give ukraine the capabilities that it needs, and these capabilities that i talked about comedy artillery, the patriots, the

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