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of food and water left for two million palestinians, and the hospitals are about to run out of fuel. president biden will leave washington for israel in an hour. we have got reaction from across the region tonight. jeremy bowen is in southern israel. we will speak to the un in gaza. mark regev will be with us from jerusalem and we will speak to the un troops in lebanon who are under fire and struggling to maintain the peace. good evening. it is hard to quite believe what has transpired in just ten days. the slaughter of 1,400 people in israel, a hostage crisis that torments a nation, a bombing campaign that's killed 3000 palestinians. the pictures emerging from al ahli baptist hospital show scenes of utter chaos — —— reported a 500 people were killed in a hospital where people were sheltering in gaza city. killed 3000 palestinians. the pictures emerging from al ahli baptist hospital show scenes of utter chaos — with bloodied and maimed casualties being rushed out on stretchers in the darkness. bodies and wrecked vehicles lying in the rubble outside. there are videos we cannot yet verify which show a huge explosion shortly beforehand. all these hospitals have been serving as a refuge for people trying to escape the bombing. the israeli army says it is investigating and will report shortly. we will get a reaction this next hour from the government hourfrom the government spokesperson. john donaldson is speaking to us next. bring us up to speed with the things that you have been able to verify so far. weill. been able to verify so far. well, this is the _ been able to verify so far. well, this is the hospital, _ been able to verify so far. well, this is the hospital, and - been able to verify so far. well, this is the hospital, and right. this is the hospital, and right in the centre of gaza city, it is a hospital run by the baptist church and it is probably like 500 metres maybe half a mile from the bbc gaza office. i've walked past it many times. the pictures we are getting there are showing complete tasks, really, burning buildings, the bbc has spoken to a doctor working at the hospital who said some 4000 people were sheltering in the hospital when the strike happened. he was talking about casualties of “p he was talking about casualties of up to 1000. i have to say, we've got to be careful with the numbers at this stage because frankly i don't think anyone knows. it certainly, this is going to be the biggest most deadly strike of this conflict so far, and it could to be a game changing moment, really, withjoe biden arriving tomorrow. changing moment, really, with joe biden arriving tomorrow.— biden arriving tomorrow. some reaction here — biden arriving tomorrow. some reaction here from _ biden arriving tomorrow. some reaction here from the - biden arriving tomorrow. some | reaction here from the anglican church injerusalem, the hospital is funded by the anglican church, the dean of st george college has just tweeted that the hospital in gaza took a direct hit from an israeli missile. the bombs have to be stopped now. there's no possible justification for this. we cannot verify yet but it is an israeli missile. we can only verify there's been an enormous explosion. what do we know about the state of the hospital prior to this? i see some reports that on the barely 80% of it was out of use and maybe was being used as a big dormitory for people seeking shelter?— seeking shelter? well, certainly i have 'ust seeking shelter? well, certainly i have just been — seeking shelter? well, certainly i have just been looking _ seeking shelter? well, certainly i have just been looking at - seeking shelter? well, certainly i have just been looking at some i seeking shelter? well, certainly i - have just been looking at some awful videos coming in, which look like there are lots of people in the ground, you know, you can see bodies scattered across with burning buildings in the background. i hadn't seen images from that hospital yesterday or over the past week. but we know that in the biggest hospital in gaza city, there have been thousands of people seeking shelter there. of course, bearin seeking shelter there. of course, bear in mind that 600,000 people have fled south after that warning from the israeli military last week to evacuate the north of gaza and gaza city, but the people who stayed, you know, hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced. one of the few safe places where people would go to seek shelter where the hospitals. 50 i don't think it is unimaginable to think that it could have been 400,000 people sheltering there, evenif 400,000 people sheltering there, even if the hospital itself wasn't treating that many patients. 4000, ou treating that many patients. 4000, you mean? — treating that many patients. 4000, you mean? 4000 — treating that many patients. 4000, you mean? 4000 people _ treating that many patients. 4000, j you mean? 4000 people sheltering that? i: i: i: you mean? 4000 people sheltering that? :: :: :: , , you mean? 4000 people sheltering that?_ irrespective - you mean? 4000 people sheltering that?_ irrespective of i that? 4000, yes. irrespective of what has caused _ that? 4000, yes. irrespective of what has caused this, _ that? 4000, yes. irrespective of what has caused this, hospitals i that? 4000, yes. irrespective of i what has caused this, hospitals are supposed to be sacrosanct. that is the place where people should be able to go and get shelter. naturally, the reaction coming from the region is fury, and that is the backdrop for president biden who is about to set off in the next hour for israel. i heard you say earlier this is a game changer. it certainly could be, couldn't it? it this is a game changer. it certainly could be, couldn't it?— could be, couldn't it? it really could be, couldn't it? it really could be- _ could be, couldn't it? it really could be. across _ could be, couldn't it? it really could be. across the - could be, couldn't it? it really could be. across the west - could be, couldn't it? it really. could be. across the west bank, could be, couldn't it? it really- could be. across the west bank, we are hearing reports of people turning up on the streets and mass protest. they been broadcasting from the mosques urging people to do so. i'vejust seen some the mosques urging people to do so. i've just seen some images from ramallah with thousands of people chanting, marching towards the presidential compound. he, of course, is the leader of hamas's rivals, the palestinian authority, the president himself who was due to meet, i think with president biden tomorrow has now said he is flying back to the west bank. 50 i think this could really inflame an already incredibly volatile situation. of course, you have to remember that while the united states has been standing by firmly behind israel, it is, of course, israel's strongest ally. it has at the same time been urging israel to try to minimise civilian casualties. it's been urging israel and egypt to push for humanitarian corridor is to be opened up from the south. you know, to have this on the dayjoe biden arrives, if it is confirmed in the morning when he arrives that you've got hundreds, possibly more people being killed and a hospital, i mean, he is going to face some questions. we both worked in gaza, so we know how things operate in times like this. the co—ordinates of hospital like this would be well known by the israeli defence force. we collected the conflicted site. presumably, the israeli army knows exactly where this is and will have fairly good intelligence, fairly quickly on what has gone wrong. intelligence, fairly quickly on what has gone wrong-— intelligence, fairly quickly on what has gone wrong. they well and they definitely will _ has gone wrong. they well and they definitely will have _ has gone wrong. they well and they definitely will have known _ has gone wrong. they well and they definitely will have known what - has gone wrong. they well and they definitely will have known what it i definitely will have known what it was and where it was. it was incredibly well known building. it is right next to the main square in the centre of gaza city. now, the israeli defence force the israeli military has been contacted for comment and they have said that they are investigating, but, you know, it is hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion other than is... an israeli air strike or several air strikes because when we have seen rockets being fired out of gaza, we never see explosions of that scale. we might see half a dozen, maybe a few more people being killed in such rocket attacks, but we have never seen anything on the scale of the sort of explosion of the video i was watching earlier which, as you say, is still to be verified.— is still to be verified. let's talk about these — is still to be verified. let's talk about these pictures _ is still to be verified. let's talk about these pictures that - is still to be verified. let's talk about these pictures that we i about these pictures that we are seeing while you talk to us from ramallah. we see the riot police out in ramallah tonight close to the presidential palace, and right at the end of the street there, we can see hundreds of people who are gathered. this explains the nervousness, john, and arab countries, a north african countries at the moment because although governments have been urging a cease—fire, there is fury, there is great anger. there have been big protests in these countries in the last few weeks, and something like this can really light the tinderbox, can't it? it this can really light the tinderbox, can't it? . ., this can really light the tinderbox, can't it? it, ~ this can really light the tinderbox, can't it? . ., this can really light the tinderbox, can'tit? ~ . . can't it? it can. we have already been hearing — can't it? it can. we have already been hearing condemnation - can't it? it can. we have already| been hearing condemnation from can't it? it can. we have already - been hearing condemnation from many countries in the arab worlds, and, you know, i do not think it is unimaginable that we are going to see protest similar to those which we are already seen in the west bank springing up in southern israel as arab neighbours, you know, it's going to be very interesting to see the reaction from hezbollah in the north where we already have a very volatile situation on israel's northern border. so you are right. this is a moment, i think, given the apparent scale of this attack, which could really, as i say, completely inflame notjust this conflict, but the whole region.— the whole region. john, for the moment. _ the whole region. john, for the moment. we — the whole region. john, for the moment, we will— the whole region. john, for the moment, we will come - the whole region. john, for the moment, we will come back i the whole region. john, for the moment, we will come back toj the whole region. john, for the - moment, we will come back to in a moment. thank you very much for that. we will speak now to a surgeon at the royal liverpool university hospital and currently in southern gaza. thank you very much for being with us. what have you been able to ascertain from the doctor's eve spoken to this evening. what can you tell us about the situation on the ground? i tell us about the situation on the round? , . . ., , , . ~ tell us about the situation on the round? , . . ., , , .~ ., ground? i 'ust managed to speak to one of ground? ijust managed to speak to one of the doctors _ ground? ijust managed to speak to one of the doctors at _ ground? ijust managed to speak to one of the doctors at the _ ground? ijust managed to speak to one of the doctors at the hospital . one of the doctors at the hospital and he told me it is extremely chaotic. the number of dead and wounded coming into the hospital is unbelievable. estimated that the public, 800 people have been killed. and they are not coping with the number of people coming to the hospital. number of people coming to the hosital. �* u, , number of people coming to the hosital. �* u, , ., number of people coming to the hosital. , ., , , hospital. because, of course, they were already _ hospital. because, of course, they were already under _ hospital. because, of course, they were already under enormous - hospital. because, of course, they - were already under enormous pressure before this. can you tell us whether they are able to get access to the site to get people out? the wounded and injured that are still in that building. i and injured that are still in that buildinu. ~ , ., , and injured that are still in that buildinu. ~' , . , ., building. i think they are trying to net --eole building. i think they are trying to get people out. — building. i think they are trying to get people out, but _ building. i think they are trying to get people out, but still- building. i think they are trying to get people out, but still there - building. i think they are trying to get people out, but still there is i building. i think they are trying to | get people out, but still there is a fire in the place. they are managing to get some of the bodies out, but still it is ongoing. did to get some of the bodies out, but still it is ongoing.— still it is ongoing. did any of the eyewitnesses, _ still it is ongoing. did any of the eyewitnesses, do any _ still it is ongoing. did any of the eyewitnesses, do any of- still it is ongoing. did any of the eyewitnesses, do any of the - eyewitnesses, do any of the eyewitnesses, do any of the eyewitnesses who survived, have you given any detail of what they saw or what they heard or what happened? i don't know exactly. i haven't spoken to any of them. my own sources are from the hospital, and just getting people into the hospital who need medical attention there. does people into the hospital who need medical attention there.— medical attention there. does he have that capacity, _ medical attention there. does he have that capacity, your - medical attention there. does he l have that capacity, your colleague, to care for the people that are coming to him tonight? ida. to care for the people that are coming to him tonight? no. they are already overwhelmed. _ coming to him tonight? no. they are already overwhelmed. they - coming to him tonight? no. they are already overwhelmed. they have - coming to him tonight? no. they are i already overwhelmed. they have many, many, i mean... yes... yesterday in the day before, the bombing brought to many people into the hospital and they have been triaging their casualties according to their chances of survival, so they don't have the capacity, ready to left after another flood of people who have been wounded in this incident. these will be blast wounds and shrapnel wounds. we artie know that hospitals are running short on medical supplies. what about if you will? because the un said today there is barely 24 hours of fuel left to run the generators. is there a danger that at the most critical moments, as they are being overwhelmed, the lights go out? yes. overwhelmed, the lights go out? yes, that is a big — overwhelmed, the lights go out? yes, that is a big danger _ overwhelmed, the lights go out? is: that is a big danger because there is no external supplies coming. my information probably 24—48 hours is the maximum they can operate in this situation. we the maximum they can operate in this situation. ~ . the maximum they can operate in this situation. ~ , ., , ., , situation. we see some really angry scenes and — situation. we see some really angry scenes and ramallah _ situation. we see some really angry scenes and ramallah right - situation. we see some really angry scenes and ramallah right now- situation. we see some really angry scenes and ramallah right now with j scenes and ramallah right now with tier gas being fired and the riot police out on the streets near the presidential palace. what is the situation in rafah where you are. are people coming out onto the streets? i are people coming out onto the streets? .. �* are people coming out onto the streets? ., �* , ., , , streets? i haven't seen that myself, but speaking — streets? i haven't seen that myself, but speaking to _ streets? i haven't seen that myself, but speaking to the _ streets? i haven't seen that myself, but speaking to the palestinians - but speaking to the palestinians around me, they're very angry. it is very emotionalfor around me, they're very angry. it is very emotional for everyone here. the egyptians have just said tonight that they are not... it's not that they are not opening the gate at rafah it's that the gate is still under bombardment, and we have seen the craters on the road next to the transit centre at rafah. what hasn't been like there over the last 24 hours? .. . . been like there over the last 24 hours? ., , , , ., hours? there has been multiple air strikes around _ hours? there has been multiple air strikes around us, _ hours? there has been multiple air strikes around us, including... - hours? there has been multiple air strikes around us, including... and| strikes around us, including... and the crossing as well, so what the situation, although people have been displaced from gaza to rafah, but still, there have been air strikes in this area, which means that there is no place that is safer than. find is no place that is safer than. and what about _ is no place that is safer than. and what about your _ is no place that is safer than. and what about your hospital, if they were to move some of the wounded from gaza city tonight or tomorrow morning, just to alleviate some of the pressure on the hospital, would you be able to cope with more? bill you be able to cope with more? fill hospitals are in the same situation. because even in rafah, everyone is under the same pressure. it is all working over what they can cope with, it is over there capacity by many times. with, it is over there capacity by many times-— with, it is over there capacity by many times. with, it is over there capacity by man times. �* ., . ., , ., many times. and how much fuel do you have left? sorry? _ many times. and how much fuel do you have left? sorry? how— many times. and how much fuel do you have left? sorry? how much _ have left? sorry? how much fuel riaht next have left? sorry? how much fuel right next to _ have left? sorry? how much fuel right next to you _ have left? sorry? how much fuel right next to you have _ have left? sorry? how much fuel right next to you have left? - have left? sorry? how much fuel right next to you have left? i - have left? sorry? how much fuel. right next to you have left? i don't know exactly. it is the same situation, which is probably a few days. situation, which is probably a few da 5. , ., , , situation, which is probably a few da s. , , , situation, which is probably a few da s. , ., , , , ., situation, which is probably a few das. , ,., ., days. presumably, 'ust to get an idea of what _ days. presumably, 'ust to get an idea of what is _ days. presumably, just to get an idea of what is going _ days. presumably, just to get an idea of what is going on - days. presumably, just to get an idea of what is going on at - days. presumably, just to get an idea of what is going on at your. idea of what is going on at your hospital, you are treating many similar types of injury, blast wounds, that sort of thing, that's? at the moment i'm outside the hospital, i cannot get to the hospital, i cannot get to the hospital because it is not safe to go to the hospital at the moment. 50 go to the hospital at the moment. so you are a surgeon with all the skills to help but you cannot get there? . .., �* skills to help but you cannot get there? , .. �* ., there? yes, i can't get there now. so where are _ there? yes, i can't get there now. so where are you? _ there? yes, i can't get there now. so where are you? at _ there? yes, i can't get there now. so where are you? at the - there? yes, i can't get there now. | so where are you? at the moment, there? yes, i can't get there now. - so where are you? at the moment, in fact in a un — so where are you? at the moment, in fact in a un shelter— so where are you? at the moment, in fact in a un shelter at the _ so where are you? at the moment, in fact in a un shelter at the moment. i fact in a un shelter at the moment. writes, and you have been pinned down there for how long? for writes, and you have been pinned down there for how long?- down there for how long? for the ast down there for how long? for the past couple _ down there for how long? for the past couple of — down there for how long? for the past couple of days. _ down there for how long? for the past couple of days. because - down there for how long? for the past couple of days. because it i down there for how long? for the past couple of days. because it isj past couple of days. because it is so lively at the border. yes, obviously we where. .. so lively at the border. yes, obviously we where... and you can't travel, it's unsafe to travel, really, within gaza or in rafah or anywhere because you don't know who will be the next target. so that is the situation. 50 will be the next target. so that is the situation.— the situation. so if there was a cease-fire. _ the situation. so if there was a cease-fire, where _ the situation. so if there was a cease-fire, where would - the situation. so if there was a cease-fire, where would you i the situation. so if there was a i cease-fire, where would you go? cease—fire, where would you go? because obviously your skills are badly needed right now. yes. because obviously your skills are badly needed right now.- because obviously your skills are badly needed right now. yes. i have been in touch _ badly needed right now. yes. i have been in touch with _ badly needed right now. yes. i have been in touch with my _ badly needed right now. yes. i have been in touch with my colleagues, i been in touch with my colleagues, so, at the moment, i am probably i will be going out once it is open. you are going to leave gaza? yes. writes. you are going to leave gaza? yes. writes- 0k- _ you are going to leave gaza? yes. writes. 0k. listen, _ you are going to leave gaza? yes. writes. 0k. listen, doctor, - you are going to leave gaza? yes writes. 0k. listen, doctor, thank writes. ok. listen, doctor, thank you so much for coming on and talking to us about what you know. we are going to focus a little bit on what the un might now. there was, before this incident, reports of at least six people being killed at a school that was run by the united nations palestinian refugee agency in gaza's refugee camp. they said the school was hit during a series of israeli air strikes this afternoon. at least six people were killed this afternoon when a unrwa school was hit at the al maghazi refugee camp in the middle area of the strip. commissioner—general philippe lazzarini said this is outrageous and it again shows the flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians. no place is safe in gaza any more, not even unwra facilities, he warned. that has been proven by the strike on the al—ahli arab baptist hospital. jennifer austen is the director of the un gaza field office. it is good to see you safe and well. what do you know about events this evening in gaza city? well, just from what i've seen on the media, just the rumours what we have seen, the photographs, and it hasjust have seen, the photographs, and it has just been absolutely shocking, and where i am now sitting in rafah neara and where i am now sitting in rafah near a refugee camp as part of a refugee camp at 8000 people in here, these people are displaced. it comes from the north and they have come from the north and they have come from gaza city themselves. as a thousand people here. at night, it is usually raucous, it's loud, people are, you know, running, kids are running around. tonight, there is silence, absolute silence. he can't hear a thing. the people are just an absolute shock about what has happened. it is really, really shocking and... ijust don't know what to say. i have no words. there can't be any — what to say. i have no words. there can't be any confidence, _ what to say. i have no words. there can't be any confidence, can - what to say. i have no words. there can't be any confidence, can there, | can't be any confidence, can there, if a hospital is struck the anyone is safe anywhere, even if they're in a un facility like the one you are in. ~ .. a un facility like the one you are in. . ., ., a un facility like the one you are in. ~ ., ., ,': ., a un facility like the one you are in. ~ .. ., ,': ., ., in. we have had 32 of our installations, _ in. we have had 32 of our installations, our- in. we have had 32 of our installations, our un - in. we have had 32 of our - installations, our un premises that have been de—conflicted with the israeli authorities. they are sacrosanct, they suffered 32 direct and indirect strikes. during this last war, this current or. can you tell us what _ last war, this current or. can you tell us what happened _ last war, this current or. can you tell us what happened at - last war, this current or. can you tell us what happened at the - last war, this current or. can you i tell us what happened at the school today? tell us what happened at the school toda ? ~ ., ., ., , today? well, we heard that it was round today? well, we heard that it was ground strikes _ today? well, we heard that it was ground strikes and _ today? well, we heard that it was ground strikes and it _ today? well, we heard that it was ground strikes and it was - today? well, we heard that it was ground strikes and it was hitting l ground strikes and it was hitting the third floor of the school, which has been serving thousands of idp is living there. it had been de—conflicted, but at in the morning, it was struck and six people have died, thousands, so i cannot thousands, many dozens injured. it'sjust cannot thousands, many dozens injured. it's just really terrible. you know, again, there people that we know. it could be co—workers. we lost a co—worker, co—workers were injured, people have lost sisters, brothers, cousins, friends, family. it's reallyjust brothers, cousins, friends, family. it's really just so brothers, cousins, friends, family. it's reallyjust so devastating. i just want to bring areas near is a statement that we have just had, this isjeremy bowen reporting, he has spoken to someone in the israeli defence force office tonight who says this, "the hospital is a highly sensitive building and is not an ibf target. the idf is investigating the source of the explosion and, as always, is prioritising accuracy and reliability. we urge everyone to proceed with caution when reporting on unverified claims of a terrorist organisation." you will have seen statements like that throughout the last ten days, jennifer, how would you react to that?_ you react to that? well, i think it would be very — you react to that? well, i think it would be very difficult. _ you react to that? well, i think it would be very difficult. i'm - you react to that? well, i think it would be very difficult. i'm not i you react to that? well, i think it| would be very difficult. i'm not an expert of munitions or of air strikes or of anything like that, we would just have to go with what the security says from what our experts say as to the likelihood or not to likelihood of what was the source of that strike. brute likelihood of what was the source of that strike. ~ ., a, ,, ., that strike. we will get to mark on shortly and _ that strike. we will get to mark on shortly and will _ that strike. we will get to mark on shortly and will give _ that strike. we will get to mark on shortly and will give us _ that strike. we will get to mark on shortly and will give us the - that strike. we will get to mark on | shortly and will give us the update, but i know what he is going to say. we have to proceed with caution because hamas puts missiles and endangers people even close to hospitals, and we know that ambulances have been used by hamas and we know that hospitals have been used to store things in the past. so do we have to be a little bit circumspect about what caused this explosion? circumspect about what caused this ex - losion? ~ circumspect about what caused this exlosion? ~ ~ ., , explosion? well, i think in any conflict, either _ explosion? well, i think in any conflict, either side _ explosion? well, i think in any conflict, either side of - explosion? well, i think in any conflict, either side of conflict | conflict, either side of conflict should not be using human shields. it's not acceptable. you know, i mean, we would need to know more, i guess, but that's probably all i can say at this time. i guess, but that's probably all i can say at this time.— say at this time. i want to get an impression _ say at this time. i want to get an impression of — say at this time. i want to get an impression of what _ say at this time. i want to get an impression of what you - say at this time. i want to get an impression of what you have - say at this time. i want to get an impression of what you have and say at this time. i want to get an - impression of what you have and just get into a couple of things that are important. yesterday there were some reports that six tankers had come across at rafah. mark did say today that they were redirected by hamas. have you any information of whether fuel was brought across the egyptian— gaza border yesterday? i just say that yesterday, the un was able to manage to access some fuel that was actually already in gaza on the palestinian side, and that is probably what the sources are talking about that you are referring to there. ~ .. . .. . talking about that you are referring to there. . ., , ., . ., to there. was that field directed to hos - itals to there. was that field directed to hospitals or _ to there. was that field directed to hospitals or was _ to there. was that field directed to hospitals or was it _ to there. was that field directed to hospitals or was it taken _ to there. was that field directed to hospitals or was it taken away - to there. was that field directed to hospitals or was it taken away by i hospitals or was it taken away by hamas? ., ., , ., , hamas? now, that you will is going to be used by _ hamas? now, that you will is going to be used by the _ hamas? now, that you will is going to be used by the un _ hamas? now, that you will is going to be used by the un for— to be used by the un for humanitarian work, to support the un and other act areas, humanitarian actors and gaza. find and other act areas, humanitarian actors and gaza.— and other act areas, humanitarian actors and gaza. and how much fuel do ou actors and gaza. and how much fuel do you have — actors and gaza. and how much fuel do you have left? _ actors and gaza. and how much fuel do you have left? how _ actors and gaza. and how much fuel do you have left? how much - actors and gaza. and how much fuel do you have left? how much water i actors and gaza. and how much fuel. do you have left? how much water do you have left to distribute? weill. you have left to distribute? well, that's a good _ you have left to distribute? well, that's a good question. _ you have left to distribute? well, that's a good question. you - you have left to distribute? -ii that's a good question. you know, it's a moving target every day, but we've got about eight days of fuel left, which means it got about eight days of water left, because fuel makes water to the generators. for food, we are running on commodities, we got around eight days as well of commodities, so it's getting very, very tight. out in the markets, there's really nothing to buy. going out trying to find water in bottles and things like that, there is not much available. pretty much the markets are bare now a. yet much available. pretty much the markets are bare now a. yet there is this a that is — markets are bare now a. yet there is this a that is backed _ markets are bare now a. yet there is this a that is backed up, _ markets are bare now a. yet there is this a that is backed up, so - markets are bare now a. yet there is this a that is backed up, so where i this a that is backed up, so where they are a cease—fire, where the gates open, how quickly could the situation be alleviated?— situation be alleviated? well, it would be alleviated _ situation be alleviated? well, it would be alleviated very - situation be alleviated? well, it| would be alleviated very quickly, good start rolling in the truck start rolling in, and it's needed and it needs to happen, it needs to happen very, very quickly. if doesn't happen within a few days, the city is a powder keg care. people are so desperate. just returning _ people are so desperate. just returning to _ people are so desperate. just returning to the _ people are so desperate. just returning to the hospital tonight and for viewers who are justjoining us, we are talking but an explosion at the al—ahli arab baptist hospital in gaza city. the palestinian health ministry saying that at least 500 people have been killed. there was talk, jennifer of maybe 4000 people being at this hospital. where did that frame up for you given your experience of where you are at the un office? .. experience of where you are at the un office? ., ., �* , , , un office? that wouldn't surprise me at all because — un office? that wouldn't surprise me at all because we _ un office? that wouldn't surprise me at all because we started _ un office? that wouldn't surprise me at all because we started when i un office? that wouldn't surprise me at all because we started when we i at all because we started when we came here about five days ago, the time isjust moving. we have about 25 people on the first day and now we've got a thousand people, so 4000, you know, probably a lot of them, most of them idp taking refuge in a hospital. that is not inconceivable.— in a hospital. that is not inconceivable. ., ., ., . �* �* inconceivable. you are watching bbc news. continuing _ inconceivable. you are watching bbc news. continuing to _ inconceivable. you are watching bbc news. continuing to cover— inconceivable. you are watching bbc news. continuing to cover the i inconceivable. you are watching bbc| news. continuing to cover the events in gaza city this evening. to stay with us. jennifer, thank you very much for being with us this evening. ijust say to you, please do stay safe. they are grateful for your coming up, we know in a precarious situation you are in at the moment, and we really do appreciate your time. thank you for being with us. let me quickly show you these pictures and ramallah, it is very tense there tonight. it's been tense and plenty of arab cities as well, these pictures are being beamed around the arab world tonight with the commentary that this was an israeli air strike, and you can see the sort of reaction they are getting. this is quite close to the presidential palace tonight and we are being informed that the president is returning to ramallah this evening from meetings he has had injordan with thejordanian king. he is due to meet president biden tomorrow, but, of course, this really does change the picture. the white house tonight was saying that president biden will arrive here in the morning. a lot of thought had gone into this trip. the last thing president biden really wants is for the ground incursion to begin while he is injerusalem without any humanitarian aid to going into the gaza strip, but, of course, that depth of 500 people may be well over a thousand people because it is still very early days in the story. that would completely change the picture and it will be really interesting to see what the reaction of the us president is as he sets off from joint base andrews in maryland this evening. he will speak before he gets on the plane, and of course, we will bring you reaction to that as and when he appears. it is at the pictures tonight in ramallah. if it is tense and ramallah. if it is tense and ramallah connect is certainly going to be tense on the northern border between israel and lebanon. so let's speak to andrea, a spokesperson for unit fail. 10,000 peacekeeping troops on the blue line between israel and lebanon. just at the weekends, we had reports of a strike on the headquarters. you are welcome to the programme. what happens in your headquarters on a night like this where we are reporting about such an appalling tragedy in gaza city? does that ramp up the tension where you are? i city? does that ramp up the tension where you are?— where you are? i would say that the last eiuht where you are? i would say that the last eight days. _ where you are? i would say that the last eight days, there has _ where you are? i would say that the last eight days, there has been i where you are? i would say that the last eight days, there has been an i last eight days, there has been an increase in exchange of fire between lebanon and israel. maybe the last three days, there have been an even larger escalation along the line, but also contain along the blue line and also when rocket hit our airport, likely no damages or injuries, but we continue to actively engage with the authorities on the authorities and the idf to de—escalate the situation, record of a can of the situation is still ongoing and the exchange of fire, as i said, has increased, and, isaid, has increased, and, of course, we are doing our utmost to convey messages and get those to both sides since we are the only organisation between the two countries, able to talk to the idf and to the lebanese authorities while the two countries, as you know, they have no communication, no relations and no dialogue. brute know, they have no communication, no relations and no dialogue.— relations and no dialogue. we should be very clear — relations and no dialogue. we should be very clear about _ relations and no dialogue. we should be very clear about what _ relations and no dialogue. we should be very clear about what you're i be very clear about what you're talking back to me talk to the israeli army and also the lebanese army, you don't talk directly to hezbollah. are you seeing any activity in southern lebanon that would suggest to you that hezbollah are preparing to expand this conflict? figs are preparing to expand this conflict? �* . are preparing to expand this conflict? ~ , ., , conflict? as i said, the last few da s conflict? as i said, the last few days have _ conflict? as i said, the last few days have been _ conflict? as i said, the last few days have been very _ conflict? as i said, the last few days have been very tense i conflict? as i said, the last few days have been very tense and| conflict? as i said, the last few- days have been very tense and fluid and also difficult to predict. it also and always in the same areas along the blue line, the conflict has not expanded to other parts of lebanon or outside the area of operations. and through our conversation, of kristin as he mentioned, we have no contact with hezbollah. aggressive attack to the lebanese authorities into the lebanese authorities into the lebanese army, but it feels there is not a real appetite for a larger context, but the real problem is that miscalculation and no one can predict and error, a mistake in these days, especially when there is an exchange of fire, exchange of fire almost on a regular basis during the last eight days stop by to get a view to join us this evening. miscalculation is the word. maybe we are looking at a miscalculation tonight. we will of course try to verify the facts before we attribute blame in any direction. let's speak to our next correspondent. doctor, it's very good of you to join us. can you tell us what you heard and what you saw? what join us. can you tell us what you heard and what you saw? what i've seen is something _ heard and what you saw? what i've seen is something from _ heard and what you saw? what i've seen is something from beyond i heard and what you saw? what i'vej seen is something from beyond the imagination.

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