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to releases the hostages. 199 are being held, including two british teenagers whose mother was killed nine days ago. on the panel tonight, the former british ambassador to the us, lord kim darroch, who once served as the uk's national security adviser, and from washington, formerfederal prosecutorjoe moreno. good evening. the sirens sounded tonight in tel aviv while the us secretary of state was meeting at a military base with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his war cabinet. in spite of ten days of bombardment in gaza, hamas is still able to fire rockets into israel, which tonight sent mr blinken and the prime minister scurrying into a shelter. nonetheless, the punishment for hamas is unreleting. more so for the innocent palestinians who are trapped in gaza. the united nations says israel's siege is causing a deepening humanitarian crisis, which could come to a head in the next 2a hours as the hospitals run out of fuel to power the generators. the destruction in some parts of the strip is total. these are pictures from the jabalia refugee camp, once home to 120,000 people. it was one of the world's most densely populated neighbourhoods, now in ruins, and those who stayed are clinging on. we will not leave, we can't. even if they destroy our homes, where will be go with a family of five or six? meanwhile, the half a million palestinians who the un says did head south are without food and limited water. foreign nationals were hoping to cross into egypt today but the border remains closed. the us says it's working hard to convince the egyptians to open the crossings, so far without success. contrary to earlier reports on other networks, the un agency in gaza, unrwa, say no fuel has crossed into gaza today. in fact, the areas close to the rafah crossing are coming under attack. these are medics excavating bodies under the rubble after one of the recent israeli air strikes. from southern israel, our international editor, jeremy bowen, sent this report. another war — of words — has started over who is responsible for the suffering of palestinian civilians in gaza. israel is dropping the bombs. it says blame hamas for killing and kidnapping and, says israel, hiding behind civilians. gazans crowded into un schools after israel told them to move south towards the egyptian border. they are supposed to be protected by the laws of war. america has felt it necessary to deliver repeated reminders of that to israel, along with military aid. this grandmother blames israel, then speaks of tragedy, hunger, death, fear, horror and destruction. in rafah, at the closed border with egypt, palestinians with foreign passports are hoping to get out, to escape the pressure israel has imposed on civilians, despite its legal obligations. you cannot ask people to move out of harm's way without assisting them to do it, to go to places of their choice where they want to be safe and where the humanitarian aid that they need to make that journey safely. and right now the movement that has happened has not had those provisions. antony blinken, us secretary of state, returned to israel after a rapid tour of america's arab allies. the us is giving israel all the military aid it wants. but it is trying to stop the war spreading. injerusalem in the parliament, benjamin netanyahu, israel's prime minister, delivered another warning. he told iran and its lebanese ally hezbollah not to test israel. ehud 0lmert, prime minister when israel last fought hezbollah, in 2006, was scathing about mr netanyahu for mishandling relations with the palestinians, for weakening the rivals of hamas, and said israel should have two objectives. one is to fight hamas. the other is to recognise the palestinian authority and try and uplift the palestinian authority and start negotiating with them and say, there is a horizon of peace after war. in israel, there is unity about fighting hamas. the argument is about why hamas could break through israel's defences, and how to deliver israelis and palestinians from another generation of bloodshed. jeremy bowen, bbc news, southern israel. that is the point i have seen families on all sides of the conflict those murdered in israel last week and those of the hostages who i cannot imagine what they are going through and i million people in gaza that are on the brink of the people i'm thinking about tonight, really, are the doctors in the hospitals. the health professionals who have taken an oath to do no harm and they are in an impossible situation because there are about to run out of fuel and they are caring for critically ill patients who will die without that life support. it is an impossible situation. it life support. it is an impossible situation. , �* , life support. it is an impossible situation. , �*, . life support. it is an impossible situation. , �* , . . , situation. it is. it's an appalling situation. it is. it's an appalling situation on _ situation. it is. it's an appalling situation on many _ situation. it is. it's an appalling situation on many levels. - situation. it is. it's an appalling situation on many levels. and | situation. it is. it's an appalling situation on many levels. and i | situation on many levels. and i think the israelis were in a strange position on what to do with the civilian population in gaza when they decided to, their leadership, to launch a ground operation. i think the thing, if i were to criticise what were going on or pin pinpoint would be the cutting off of energy supplies and water and medical supplies to the hospitals and to be civilians in gaza city. i know they have all been asked to leave, it is impossible to evacuate hospitals due to your patience and i wonder if that really had to be done because it is adding, as you say, immeasurable suffering there. you can understand, what the israelis are trying to do. they are trying to squeeze and squeeze such that they can force hamas to at least make a humanitarian gesture and release the women, children, elderly hostages in the tunnels at the moment in exchange for humanitarian aid, that seems to be the tactic. it exchange for humanitarian aid, that seems to be the tactic.— seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on — seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on deaf _ seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on deaf ears, _ seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on deaf ears, noble - seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on deaf ears, noble may . seems to be the tactic. it seems it will fall on deaf ears, noble may itj will fall on deaf ears, noble may it be. will fall on deaf ears, noble may it be it_ will fall on deaf ears, noble may it be it is_ will fall on deaf ears, noble may it be it is a — will fall on deaf ears, noble may it be. it is a western concept, terrorist _ be. it is a western concept, terrorist groups not get that and in fact their— terrorist groups not get that and in fact their use of terror is expressly contrary to the idea of war crimes — expressly contrary to the idea of war crimes or atrocities so i think they— war crimes or atrocities so i think they may— war crimes or atrocities so i think they may shrug at an offer like that because _ they may shrug at an offer like that because they want suffering and they want the _ because they want suffering and they want the public spectacle which is the suffering which they will say is at the _ the suffering which they will say is at the hands of israel because they think— at the hands of israel because they think it _ at the hands of israel because they think it feeds their cause. sol hope — think it feeds their cause. sol hope these efforts work, but i'm scepticat — hope these efforts work, but i'm sce tical. ~ , ., hope these efforts work, but i'm scetical. ~ i. hope these efforts work, but i'm scetical. ~ . , sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor. _ sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor, joe, _ sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor, joe, i _ sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor, joe, i know- sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor, joe, i know you - sceptical. when you look at this as a prosecutor, joe, i know you not. sceptical. when you look at this as i a prosecutor, joe, i know you not an a prosecutor, joe, i know you not an expert on international law, but do you think israel is walking close to the line? clearly hamas don't care one way or another but is israel, as a state operator in this, walking close to the line? i a state operator in this, walking close to the line?— a state operator in this, walking close to the line? i understand that eo - le close to the line? i understand that peeple keep _ close to the line? i understand that peeple keep saying _ close to the line? i understand that people keep saying that _ close to the line? i understand that people keep saying that israel - close to the line? i understand that people keep saying that israel has l people keep saying that israel has to act— people keep saying that israel has to act proportionally and that is a phrase _ to act proportionally and that is a phrase that is commonly used when isreet— phrase that is commonly used when israel comes under attack and it has to respond. — israel comes under attack and it has to respond, but it cannot be held to a standard — to respond, but it cannot be held to a standard of zero civilian casualties. it's awful, but unrealistic. the standard is to minimise _ unrealistic. the standard is to minimise the civilian casualties as necessary— minimise the civilian casualties as necessary to obtain an achievable military— necessary to obtain an achievable military objective. so urban combat is awful. _ military objective. so urban combat is awful, there will be civilian casualties if this incursion continues as it appears it will. the responsibility of israel is to minimise casualties, but it will not be a minimise casualties, but it will not he a net _ minimise casualties, but it will not be a net sum of zero, it cannot happen— be a net sum of zero, it cannot happen that way. we be a net sum of zero, it cannot happen that way.— be a net sum of zero, it cannot happen that way. we will talk plenty more on situation _ happen that way. we will talk plenty more on situation in _ happen that way. we will talk plenty more on situation in gaza. _ around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. further school strikes are due to take place in scotland after a union voted to reject the latest pay offer for support staff. unison, the union that represents administrators, catering assistants and janitors, said a rolling programme of strikes in schools and nurseries will take place in the coming weeks — with dates announced within days. parliament's behaviour watchdog has recommended that conservative mp peter bone be suspended for six weeks for bullying and sexual misconduct. it follows a complaint made by a former member of staff, over behaviour which allegedly happened more than 10 years ago. the suspension will have to be voted on by the house of commons to be approved. justice secretary, alex chalk is due to set more foreign prisoners are to be deported to their home countries under plans to tackle overcrowding injails. justice secretary, alex chalk is due to set out plans in the commons today for reducing the prison population in england and wales. figures show thatjails are approaching full capacity — with the number of inmates at an all—time high. this is bbc news. president biden has cancelled all his appointments this week, as he concentrates on the national security issues at hand. he has been invited by prime minister netanyahu to visit israel but there are some complex political and security issues to work through. the if he goes, then his trip could be interpreted as support for netanyahu's military choices, but face to face he might have a better chance of influencing events on the ground. biden and netanyahu, are uncomfortable allies in the best of times, in the past week they have joined forces but for years they have been at odds over the path forward in the middle east. and more recently over netenyahu's political decisions. last night the president gave a long interview to 60 minutes in which he outlined some of this thoughts. we're saying we're going to do everything in our power to find those who are still alive and set them free. everything in our power. and i'm not going to go into the detail of that. but there's we're working like hell on that. why do you feel so strongly about speaking to these families personally on zoom? because i think they have to know that the president of the united states of america cares deeply about what's happened. deeply. we have to communicate to the world this is critical. this is not even human behavior. it's pure barbarism. and we're going to do everything in our power to get them home if we can find them. israel is going after a group of people who engage in barbarism that is as consequential as the holocaust. and so i think israel has to respond. they have to go after hamas. now, hamas is a bunch of cowards. they're hiding behind the civilians. they put their their headquarters where civilians are and buildings and the like. but to the extent that they can separate out and avoid conflict, the israelis are going to do everything in their power to avoid the killing of innocent civilians. what is your message to hezbollah and its backer, around? --iran don't. don't, don't, don't, don't come across the border. don't escalate this war. that's right. is iran behind the gaza war? i don't want to get into classified information, but to be very blunt with you, there is no clear evidence of that at this point. no evidence that iran is behind any of this. correct. now, iran constantly supports hamas. and hezbollah. but in terms of where they did, they have foreknowledge that they helped plan the attack. there's no evidence of that at this point. hamas and the extreme elements of hamas don't represent all the palestinian people. and i think that it would be a mistake to for israel to occupy gaza again, but to going in and taking out the extremist... the hezbollah of north, but hamas down south is a necessary requirement. professor stephen biddle a member of the arnold a. saltzman institute of war and peace studies. us presidents really trouble at the outset of conflict would you think is in the mind of president biden and will be the value in going? i think establishing us support for an ally that was attacked unjustly, thatis ally that was attacked unjustly, that is important for israelis, important for americans. that is important for israelis, important foramericans. secondly, i important for americans. secondly, i think important foramericans. secondly, i think he is trying to determine intervention from other parties in the region that showing that the united states is committed and if the united states is committed the costs of the intervention of iran if the us was on its side line sol think it is trying to send a variety of different messages to different actors. he of different messages to different actors. ., . actors. he told them there at the end that he _ actors. he told them there at the end that he is _ actors. he told them there at the end that he is not _ actors. he told them there at the end that he is not in _ actors. he told them there at the end that he is not in the - actors. he told them there at the end that he is not in the favour . actors. he told them there at the| end that he is not in the favour of the us occupying gaza, which i understand the focus right now and the strategic objective is to dismantle hamas, that is the imperative, but, once you are in there and you cannot do it without encircling gaza city, what do you do after? do you think there is enough strategic thought being given to that? i strategic thought being given to that? ., , , , �* , strategic thought being given to that? .,, , , �*, ., that? i hope there is, but it's not an easy question _ that? i hope there is, but it's not an easy question to _ that? i hope there is, but it's not an easy question to answer. - that? i hope there is, but it's not an easy question to answer. the| an easy question to answer. the famous question on, tell me how this ends does not have an obvious answer here. you can topple hamas, if israel is willing to pay the price to do that in civilian casualties, what comes after is a much harder problem than getting rid of hamas. there is a lot of talk about the palestinian authority being instituted as the new government in gaza, but the legitimacy, if they do it, will be problematic. if they write in gaza on the back of israeli tanks, if not at all clear that they will command the loyalty of gazan posits the needs if that does not happen the viability of that government is negligible. there has also been talk of different gulf arab states collaborating to provide governments in gaza and other outside parties, there are a variety of ideas being batted around, i suspect an israeli government as well as elsewhere. none of them look like simple slam dunk solutions. if it is easy to identify problems in the shortcoming and difficulties in all that but it's easy to identify problems and shortcomings in doing nothing with leaving hamas in power after the october seven, there is an array of bot options. of finding the least bad among them is the central challenge of the israeli government. i've seen interviews today with officers, is really officers on the northern border bristling for a fight and they understand that up to the horrors perpetrated last week, the horrors perpetrated last week, the united states has experienced of what happens when the blood is boiling when they need to think back to 9/11 and what transpired after ants the war in iraq. is there a danger in your mind as a study of war that the israelis, in their rush for vengeance, war that the israelis, in their rush forvengeance, make war that the israelis, in their rush for vengeance, make a strategic error? ~ , ,., , for vengeance, make a strategic error? ~ , ,, . . error? absolutely. strategic errors in this kind — error? absolutely. strategic errors in this kind are _ error? absolutely. strategic errors in this kind are very _ error? absolutely. strategic errors in this kind are very common. - error? absolutely. strategic errors in this kind are very common. in . in this kind are very common. in this sort of conflict it is a lot easier to get in then it is to get out. again, it is easy for me, for us it is easy to say, boy this is hard to employ the options look bad, but all the options look bad. among the options that look bad is doing nothing. so the time to solve problems like this is way before the crisis. once you are in a crisis, once hamas is than something like what they did on october the 7th, your range of choice chokes out to a collection of bad choices. the thing to do is act way before this. the clever policy advice that we can give israel is to get in a time machine and go back 16 years ago and treat gaza differently, that's not very helpful to the israelis right now. they are in a pickle and getting out will not be easy. david is right there there are no _ not be easy. david is right there there are no good _ not be easy. david is right there there are no good options - not be easy. david is right there i there are no good options here. if you were to go back in the time machine you would still find prime minister netanyahu at the helm and his critics would say he has never really had a strategy to deal with gaza and now we are where we are. and what do you think is the and games that the general may be looking for? == games that the general may be looking for?— games that the general may be lookin: for? . . . ., , looking for? -- and again. it has 'ust looking for? -- and again. it has just been — looking for? -- and again. it has just been said. _ looking for? -- and again. it has just been said. this _ looking for? -- and again. it has just been said. this is _ looking for? -- and again. it has just been said. this is an - just been said. this is an impossible war. netanyahu has been the prime _ impossible war. netanyahu has been the prime minister of israel for 16 years— the prime minister of israel for 16 years and — the prime minister of israel for 16 years and i— the prime minister of israel for 16 years and i think his policy, although— years and i think his policy, although has tended to be one of continuance to the palestinians in repeated — continuance to the palestinians in repeated assurances to the israeli people _ repeated assurances to the israeli people with he is security and the luy people with he is security and the guy that — people with he is security and the guy that will look after them and what _ guy that will look after them and what has — guy that will look after them and what has happened in the last ten days has— what has happened in the last ten days has blown a hole in that. so i think— days has blown a hole in that. so i think netanyahu's own clinical future — think netanyahu's own clinical future is — think netanyahu's own clinical future is now under question —— political — future is now under question —— political. but if you had a time machine — political. but if you had a time machine i_ political. but if you had a time machine i would go back to the time of the _ machine i would go back to the time of the clinton negotiations when i think— of the clinton negotiations when i think there were a massive missed opportunity to open up a deal in the future _ opportunity to open up a deal in the future to— opportunity to open up a deal in the future to have an settlement with israel _ future to have an settlement with israel but — future to have an settlement with israel but you cannot go back. and you face _ israel but you cannot go back. and you face a — israel but you cannot go back. and you face a classic problem now, while _ you face a classic problem now, while the — you face a classic problem now, while the military strategy we have seen many times and other theatres in other— seen many times and other theatres in other contexts, the military strategy— in other contexts, the military strategy and i'm sure they will destroy— strategy and i'm sure they will destroy a _ strategy and i'm sure they will destroy a lot of hamas control centres. — destroy a lot of hamas control centres, arms dumps and the like in gaza city— centres, arms dumps and the like in gaza city lrut— centres, arms dumps and the like in gaza city but the real vacuum for the political strategy for the aftermath. and there is not a good options _ aftermath. and there is not a good options out — aftermath. and there is not a good options out there. all of them are massively— options out there. all of them are massively problematic in all of them will he _ massively problematic in all of them will he very— massively problematic in all of them will be very difficult to work and all of— will be very difficult to work and all of the — will be very difficult to work and all of the are going to be need a huge _ all of the are going to be need a huge amount of diplomacy and goodwill— huge amount of diplomacy and goodwill to get going so i'm afraid have no— goodwill to get going so i'm afraid have no answers.— have no answers. there is a lot of sabre rattling _ have no answers. there is a lot of sabre rattling going _ have no answers. there is a lot of sabre rattling going on _ have no answers. there is a lot of sabre rattling going on at - sabre rattling going on at the moment, among the various militant groups and of course from toronto, here something that would worry people. the last few minutes the foreign minister in iran has told state television that a preemptive action could be expected in the coming hours. the leaders of the resistance will not allow the zionist regime to take any action in gaza, all options are open and we cannot be indifferent to the war crimes committed against the people of gaza. it is a really difficult problem for the president here. he's been trying to thread a needle, giving enough support to israel to respond to hamas without spreading the war further and of course, there are plenty of people on the right in the us who would want fairly firm action taken against iran. so if you preemptive action was to come, wear are b then? i preemptive action was to come, wear are b then?— are b then? i think there are a lot of --eole are b then? i think there are a lot of people who _ are b then? i think there are a lot of people who feel— are b then? i think there are a lot of people who feel we _ are b then? i think there are a lot of people who feel we are - are b then? i think there are a lot of people who feel we are about | are b then? i think there are a lotl of people who feel we are about to enter— of people who feel we are about to enter the _ of people who feel we are about to enter the next— of people who feel we are about to enter the next cold _ of people who feel we are about to enter the next cold war. _ of people who feel we are about to enter the next cold war. whetherl of people who feel we are about to i enter the next cold war. whether you have russia, — enter the next cold war. whether you have russia, china, _ enter the next cold war. whether you have russia, china, iran— enter the next cold war. whether you have russia, china, iran and - have russia, china, iran and possibly— have russia, china, iran and possibly north _ have russia, china, iran and possibly north korea - have russia, china, iran and possibly north korea allied i have russia, china, iran and - possibly north korea allied against the west — possibly north korea allied against the west so — possibly north korea allied against the west so i _ possibly north korea allied against the west. so i think— possibly north korea allied against the west. so i think we _ possibly north korea allied against the west. so i think we are - possibly north korea allied against the west. so i think we are close . possibly north korea allied against| the west. so i think we are close to a point _ the west. so i think we are close to a point of— the west. so i think we are close to a point of triggering _ the west. so i think we are close to a point of triggering a _ the west. so i think we are close to a point of triggering a multi - the west. so i think we are close to a point of triggering a multi nationi a point of triggering a multi nation conflict~ _ a point of triggering a multi nation conflict. israel— a point of triggering a multi nation conflict. israel is _ a point of triggering a multi nation conflict. israel is in— a point of triggering a multi nation conflict. israel is in a _ a point of triggering a multi nation conflict. israel is in a impossible . conflict. israel is in a impossible position — conflict. israel is in a impossible position it— conflict. israel is in a impossible position it is _ conflict. israel is in a impossible position. it is a _ conflict. israel is in a impossible position. it is a country- conflict. israel is in a impossible position. it is a country of - conflict. israel is in a impossible position. it is a country of 9 - position. it is a country of 9 million _ position. it is a country of 9 million people _ position. it is a country of 9 million people surrounded i position. it is a country of 9. million people surrounded by position. it is a country of 9 - million people surrounded by half a million _ million people surrounded by half a million people _ million people surrounded by half a million people who _ million people surrounded by half a million people who want _ million people surrounded by half a million people who want to - million people surrounded by half a million people who want to see - million people who want to see israel— million people who want to see israel destroyed. _ million people who want to see israel destroyed. so _ million people who want to see israel destroyed. so i - million people who want to see israel destroyed. so i get - million people who want to see israel destroyed. so i get it. it| million people who want to see i israel destroyed. so i get it. it is a very. _ israel destroyed. so i get it. it is a very. very— israel destroyed. so i get it. it is a very, very difficult _ israel destroyed. so i get it. it is a very, very difficult position. . a very, very difficult position. from — a very, very difficult position. from our— a very, very difficult position. from our site, _ a very, very difficult position. from our site, president - a very, very difficult position. i from our site, president biden a very, very difficult position. - from our site, president biden has said many— from our site, president biden has said many of— from our site, president biden has said many of the _ from our site, president biden has said many of the right _ from our site, president biden has said many of the right things, - from our site, president biden has said many of the right things, he . said many of the right things, he does _ said many of the right things, he does have — said many of the right things, he does have to _ said many of the right things, he does have to take _ said many of the right things, he does have to take responsibilityl does have to take responsibility thatjust — does have to take responsibility thatjust a — does have to take responsibility that just a month _ does have to take responsibility that just a month ago, - does have to take responsibility that just a month ago, he - does have to take responsibility i thatjust a month ago, he released thatjust a month ago, he released that $6— thatjust a month ago, he released that $6 billion _ thatjust a month ago, he released that $6 billion to _ thatjust a month ago, he released that $6 billion to iran _ thatjust a month ago, he released that $6 billion to iran and - thatjust a month ago, he released that $6 billion to iran and his- that $6 billion to iran and his frightfully— that $6 billion to iran and his frightfully getting _ that $6 billion to iran and his frightfully getting a - that $6 billion to iran and his frightfully getting a lot - that $6 billion to iran and his frightfully getting a lot of- frightfully getting a lot of criticism _ frightfully getting a lot of criticism here. _ frightfully getting a lot of criticism here. so - frightfully getting a lot of. criticism here. so obviously frightfully getting a lot of- criticism here. so obviously the carrot _ criticism here. so obviously the carrot approach— criticism here. so obviously the carrot approach is _ criticism here. so obviously the carrot approach is not - criticism here. so obviously the carrot approach is not working, | carrot approach is not working, hopefully— carrot approach is not working, hopefully we _ carrot approach is not working, hopefully we do _ carrot approach is not working, hopefully we do not _ carrot approach is not working, hopefully we do not get - carrot approach is not working, hopefully we do not get too - carrot approach is not working, . hopefully we do not get too much into the _ hopefully we do not get too much into the stick— hopefully we do not get too much into the stick approach _ hopefully we do not get too much . into the stick approach because that seems _ into the stick approach because that seems where — into the stick approach because that seems where we _ into the stick approach because that seems where we are _ into the stick approach because that seems where we are headed. - into the stick approach because that seems where we are headed. you. into the stick approach because that seems where we are headed. you have to take with — seems where we are headed. you have to take with the — seems where we are headed. you have to take with the iranian _ seems where we are headed. you have to take with the iranian say with - seems where we are headed. you have to take with the iranian say with a - to take with the iranian say with a pinch of salt was earlier the day the secretary of defence was saying that the proxies work independently from the capital in iran and take there decisions but here he says, expect preemptive action in the coming hours would you make of what iran is doing in the background? let's hope that it is posturing for deterrent purposes and not a declaration of war. iran entering into this conflict would be a catastrophe for everyone involved including iran. the widening of this work is in no 1's interest. government officials say thing for a variety of reasons in president biden has talked about as a variety of different audiences, variety of different messages but let's hope this message is being sent for reasons other than issuing commands to either hezbollah or to the iranian public guard. you to either hezbollah or to the iranian public guard. you have to sa that iranian public guard. you have to say that in _ iranian public guard. you have to say that in actual _ iranian public guard. you have to say that in actual fact, _ iranian public guard. you have to say that in actual fact, if - iranian public guard. you have to say that in actual fact, if you - iranian public guard. you have to| say that in actual fact, if you look in recent history, they have not seemed inclined to take on the us. if you think about the assassination of their general when donald trump was in power, that probably would have been the moment. and they backed away from it. do you think there is a lot of posturing here and maybe they would prefer the proxies to do their bidding? thea;r maybe they would prefer the proxies to do their bidding?— to do their bidding? they clearly would before _ to do their bidding? they clearly would before the _ to do their bidding? they clearly would before the proxies - to do their bidding? they clearly would before the proxies to - to do their bidding? they clearly would before the proxies to do i to do their bidding? they clearly - would before the proxies to do their bidding. at the moment i'm not entirely sure they want the proxies fighting. they are not suicidal. if they wanted a war they could get one whenever. the fact that we have not had one suggests that they do not think this is in their interest. hezbollah could have crossed the border en masse a week ago. they have not. all of these actors have started doing as their populations, especially from the west bank and elsewhere are enraged by what israelis are doing and they went action. and that puts pressure on hezbollah, the palestinian authority in the west bank and the iranians do something or another to response public rage of the israelis. if they wanted a big war they could have gotten it by now and my guess is that they don't and they are trained to triangulate, to do enough to take the wind out of the sails of public opposition to express towards israel, not enough to get themselves dragged into regional consultation that could be the ruin of them. and so they are trained to walk this tight rope and i hope they do not fall off of it. but tight rope and i hope they do not fall off of it-_ fall off of it. but to get your thoughts — fall off of it. but to get your thoughts this _ fall off of it. but to get your thoughts this evening - fall off of it. but to get your thoughts this evening and l fall off of it. but to get your - thoughts this evening and thank you forjoining us on the programme. an update on the situation in brussels. that shooting tonight that has left at least two people dead. the belgian — sweden euro qualifier under way in the city has now been suspended and it's understood the victims were both swedish and the report saying the attack happened at 7pm local time deep in central brussels but the gunman still seems to be at large. we have seen on social media video with someone speaking in arabic claiming that he's done in the name of god. and the federal prosecutor is treating it as, quote, a terror related incident. so the gunmen still at large, the game between belgium and sweden postponed and everyone instructed to stay inside the stadium. we will try and get an update. stay with us. hello. monday brought us a fairly crisp autumn day with some sunshine, be it a little bit hazy, but it's going to be all change. next day or so, still largely dry with sunny spells and some frost around. but midweek onwards, a real change to increasingly windy weather with some heavy rain as well. and that's all courtesy of our second named storm of the season, storm babet, which has formed close to the canary islands. it's pushing its way now — you can see on the satellite image — towards the bay of biscay. and as we head through the middle of the week, this low pressure system merging with another one from the atlantic is going to bring increasingly wet and windy weather, especially across parts of scotland. but we're all going to be seeing some heavy rain widely between about 30—50 millimetres, but it's this zone across central and eastern scotland, you can see on the rainfall accumulation map here, we could see between 150—200 millimetres of rain from wednesday to saturday, enough to cause some flooding issues, there'll also be strong winds and big waves, too. now for the rest of the evening and overnight, then, most of us looking dry, perhaps a few showers close to lincolnshire, norfolk as well. clearer skies across the northern half of the uk where we'll see a frost again. but further south, not as cold as last night because we've got more cloud around and slightly milder air too. a bit of rain tuesday morning for the likes of cornwall, devon pushing into pembrokeshire as well. most other areas looking dry. plenty of sunshine for scotland, northern and eastern england after any morning mist clears away. sunny spells for belfast, i think 1a celsius here. but that rain will push across northern ireland. through into the evening hours and overnight into wednesday, wet weather sweeps up across central parts of scotland, and more showers start to arrive from the south. it'll be a milder night, so temperatures certainly frost free, between about 8—15 celsius, i think, first thing wednesday. so, yes, some mild air with us, but you can see the proximity of the isobars. that means the winds are starting to pick up, and the rain is starting to arrive as well. so wednesday then initially a bit of rain for scotland, looks like we'll see more rain into parts of southern england. some of this potentially heavy, could be thundery, and the winds are rotating around that area of low pressure. so gusts widely between about 35—a5mph on wednesday. it'll be a bit milder compared to monday and tuesday, so highs between about 10 celsius in the north, still chilly there, to about 17 celsius towards the south. and then it's thursday into friday that we see the persistent, at times heavy rain and the strong winds, which are likely to cause some disruption. bye— bye. last hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. breaking news, two people killed in belgium tonight to swedish national shot dead in the capital. the swedish football qualifier has been postponed and people told to remain in the stadium. the federal prosecutor is treating it as a terror —related incident. brute prosecutor is treating it as a terror -related incident. we will net ou terror -related incident. we will get you an _ terror -related incident. we will get you an update _ terror -related incident. we will get you an update on _ terror -related incident. we will get you an update on that - terror -related incident. we will| get you an update on that story, terror -related incident. we will- get you an update on that story, we are trying to contact our correspondent who is talking to the federal prosecutor. president biden says the dysfuntion we have seen in the house of representatives this past few week is putting american interests at risk. kevin mccarthy was ousted as house speaker nearly two weeks ago and still the republicans are no nearerfinding a replacement. the chair of the house justice committeejim jordan is in the box seat and says he has won the support of several key skeptics this weekend ahead of a planned vote on the floor on tuesday. but he can only afford to lose four votes, and the word is he is still a long way short of the 217 votes he will need.

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