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britain must, britain can, britain will get its future back. thank. britain must, britain can, britain. will get its future back. thank you, conference~ — will get its future back. thank you, conference-— sir keir starmer giving his keynote speech at the labour conference which is being held in liverpool. our correspondent is there and was listening in. do you get the sense that he answered the question, why labour? . , . , . labour? ultimately, that is a . uestion labour? ultimately, that is a question for _ labour? ultimately, that is a question for voters. - labour? ultimately, that is a question for voters. but - labour? ultimately, that is a question for voters. but i - labour? ultimately, that is a question for voters. but i do | labour? ultimately, that is a - question for voters. but i do think that was a real attempt by sir keir starmer to sketch out more of the optimistic reasons for voting for the labour party. strikingly he was talking directly to the country when he said there was a need to heal, when he said people were looking at the labour party and that he thought it would take ambition and bravery to deliver the decade of national renewal that he is pledging. the key part of that speech, the bit that labour hopes will resonate with the electorate, was the whole section where he talked about trying to start rebuilding houses in the uk. he talked about building 1,000,000 and a half houses over the next parliament, that 300,000 or so a year. that has been part of labour plasma pitch to the electorate at the next election. finding parts of the next election. finding parts of the green belt that can be reclassified and making it easier to build there. taking on what he called the blockers and fighting the blockers. the bit i found really interesting about housing in particular was when he said he was prepared to have that fight. we have talked a lot about house—building over the past two years, the conservatives have had big pledges on it as well, but the question has always been as there a political leader who can take on those fights and he is trying to persuade voters that he is the man to do that. also i thought really interesting that he flagged up and said something the shadow chancellor said yesterday which is that labour wants to fight this election on the issue of the economy. traditionally an issue where a lot of people thought the conservatives had a bit of the front foot but labour now thinks after everything that's happened with the economy that it can take that fight to the government and say we are the party offering more of a plan for economic growth. but ultimately what that speech was supposed to do is three things. it was supposed to persuade voters that sir keir starmer was serious about power. that he could reassure them that he could be prime minister. it was supposed to persuade them that the tide was turning, that this was a moment in british politics where they could be a real change. and it was him to be starting, not setting out the whole manifesto, but starting to sketch out what would be at the heart of his offer to the electorate in the next general election. . ~ electorate in the next general election. . ,, , ., electorate in the next general election. . ,, g , electorate in the next general election. . g , , election. thank you. just stay they afford us a — election. thank you. just stay they afford us a bit _ election. thank you. just stay they afford us a bit longer _ election. thank you. just stay they afford us a bit longer because - election. thank you. just stay they afford us a bit longer because we i afford us a bit longer because we are going to play you back an incident that took place as a sir keir starmer walked up onto the stage. it was disrupted, we had a demonstrator from stage. it was disrupted, we had a demonstratorfrom people stage. it was disrupted, we had a demonstrator from people demand democracy who climbed onto the stage and then through some glitter over sir keir starmer. let's play that back very quickly. thank you, conference. thank you conference~ — thank you, conference. thank you conference-— thank you, conference. thank you conference. . . conference. true democracy a citizen led. conference. true democracy a citizen led- politics — conference. true democracy a citizen led. politics need _ conference. true democracy a citizen led. politics need an _ conference. true democracy a citizen led. politics need an update! - conference. true democracy a citizen led. politics need an update! we - led. politics need an update! we demand — led. politics need an update! we demand a — led. politics need an update! we demand a peoples house! we demand a peoples _ demand a peoples house! we demand a peoples house! we are in crisis! that was the demonstrator from people demand democracy. what sort of reaction did that receive? it’s a of reaction did that receive? it's a re of reaction did that receive? it's a pretty dramatic — of reaction did that receive? it's a pretty dramatic security _ of reaction did that receive? it's a pretty dramatic security failure. that _ pretty dramatic security failure. that sort — pretty dramatic security failure. that sort of thing is not supposed to happen — that sort of thing is not supposed to happen. it's not unprecedented because _ to happen. it's not unprecedented because i— to happen. it's not unprecedented because i was here in 2017 when a protester— because i was here in 2017 when a protester handed theresa may ap 45 when she _ protester handed theresa may ap 45 when she was delivering his speech at the _ when she was delivering his speech at the conservative conference. but that should — at the conservative conference. but that should not happen. that is a pretty— that should not happen. that is a pretty serious breach of security at the labour— pretty serious breach of security at the labour conference. i do think that sir— the labour conference. i do think that sir keir starmer moved on prettv— that sir keir starmer moved on pretty quickly and used that quip which _ pretty quickly and used that quip which wasn't in the clip where he said this — which wasn't in the clip where he said this is — which wasn't in the clip where he said this is the question i have been _ said this is the question i have been trying to answer, do we want to been trying to answer, do we want to be a party— been trying to answer, do we want to be a party of— been trying to answer, do we want to be a party of protest or a party of power? _ be a party of protest or a party of power? he— be a party of protest or a party of power? he moved on from it pretty quickly. _ power? he moved on from it pretty quickly, although slightly awkward for him _ quickly, although slightly awkward for him that he had to deliver that speech— for him that he had to deliver that speech covered in some of that letter — speech covered in some of that letter its— speech covered in some of that letter. it's a pretty serious security— letter. it's a pretty serious security failure. he letter. it's a pretty serious security failure. letter. it's a pretty serious securi failure. ., . ., security failure. he touched on some ke oints security failure. he touched on some key points but _ security failure. he touched on some key points but he _ security failure. he touched on some key points but he feels _ security failure. he touched on some key points but he feels it _ security failure. he touched on some key points but he feels it is - security failure. he touched on some key points but he feels it is labour . key points but he feels it is labour who will be able to heal the country and also rebuild it. remind us what he said on that.— he said on that. labour's key argument. — he said on that. labour's key argument, the _ he said on that. labour's key argument, the thread - he said on that. labour's key argument, the thread that i he said on that. labour's key l argument, the thread that was running through that speech was that significant parts of the country are not working properly. the conservatives he argues are responsible for that. and labour are the only ones who can offer the real change that is needed to move the country forward. he talked at length about house—building, that was the key new thing in that speech he wanted to say, we are prepared to build new towns and take on vested interests to build 1.5 million new homes over the course of the next few years. that is the big pitch that he is making to the electorate. what i think he was also trying to do was trying to show a bit of passion and a bit of fight, to say here is who i am, here is what i care about and here is the upbringing i've had and here is what i think it's really important to the country and here is howl i think it's really important to the country and here is how i plan to deliver on the changes i am promising. we are not standing here this afternoon with a full prospectus from the labour party. they will be some people come away from that speech and go, i want to hear more from keir starmer. the labour party would say there are still year to go until the general election. but the crucial thing that sir keir starmer wanted to do was to say we are ahead in the polls but what's the positive case i am trying to make for the labour party in power? it's up to voters to decide whether he's done that but i suspect his argument will be that he's put on the table the things he really cares about, the thread that's going to take labour through the next year orso to take labour through the next year or so in the run—up to a general election, and it's going to be about some of the problems the country is faced with the pandemic, economic challenges, that it's prepared labour to rebuild.— labour to rebuild. there was prolonged — labour to rebuild. there was prolonged applause - labour to rebuild. there was prolonged applause when i labour to rebuild. there was j prolonged applause when sir labour to rebuild. there was - prolonged applause when sir keir starmer made his comments on anti—semitism and israel. starmer made his comments on anti-semitism and israel.- starmer made his comments on anti-semitism and israel. apart from bein: a anti-semitism and israel. apart from being a reaction _ anti-semitism and israel. apart from being a reaction to _ anti-semitism and israel. apart from being a reaction to what _ anti-semitism and israel. apart from being a reaction to what happened i anti-semitism and israel. apart from being a reaction to what happened in| being a reaction to what happened in israel over the last few days, it a very deliberate stance sir keir starmer has taken. to say the labour party has changed under my leadership. it very different to the party thatjeremy corbyn led. when they were all those questions about whether the party was taking anti—semitism seriously. i want to bring in a guest, pullover, the general secretary the tuc. can i just ask first and foremost, do you think you got enough of a vision from sir keir starmer? was that the prospectus you are looking for? absolutely and more importantly working — absolutely and more importantly working class people will see the passion — working class people will see the passion he brought that speech today but also _ passion he brought that speech today but also a _ passion he brought that speech today but also a very clear vision to make the world _ but also a very clear vision to make the world of— but also a very clear vision to make the world of work better for a proper— the world of work better for a proper industrial strategy, to rebuild — proper industrial strategy, to rebuild this country. a proper industrial strategy, to rebuild this country.- proper industrial strategy, to rebuild this country. a big part of that speech _ rebuild this country. a big part of that speech was _ rebuild this country. a big part of that speech was house-building i rebuild this country. a big part of i that speech was house-building and that speech was house—building and talking about 1.5 million new homes. a lot of people who might be thinking i've had a lot of pledges on house—building over the last two years. why is this more believable than what we've heard already? whether it's house—building, his prospectus will come of it is about setting _ prospectus will come of it is about setting out genuine ambitions for the british people and the country. he has— the british people and the country. he has tapped into this sense that over the _ he has tapped into this sense that over the last 13 years there as and aspect— over the last 13 years there as and aspect of— over the last 13 years there as and aspect of our public realm or our economy— aspect of our public realm or our economy that is better now than it was 13— economy that is better now than it was 13 years ago. people are crying out for— was 13 years ago. people are crying out for change and what you heard articulated — out for change and what you heard articulated today was he had heard that message and is going to deliver on it _ that message and is going to deliver on it. . . that message and is going to deliver on it. , . . ., , . on it. this general election is a battle for _ on it. this general election is a battle for change. _ on it. this general election is a battle for change. rishi - on it. this general election is a battle for change. rishi sunakl on it. this general election is a - battle for change. rishi sunak says he is the candidate of change and the man who can change the economy. that's not believable. i don't believe — that's not believable. i don't believe the british public will buy that for— believe the british public will buy that for one moment. we had 13 years and if— that for one moment. we had 13 years and if the _ that for one moment. we had 13 years and if the tories were going to turn around _ and if the tories were going to turn around our— and if the tories were going to turn around our economy and build 1.5 million _ around our economy and build 1.5 million new— around our economy and build 1.5 million new homes they would have done it— million new homes they would have done it by— million new homes they would have done it by now. the change has got to come _ done it by now. the change has got to come and — done it by now. the change has got to come and for me a general election— to come and for me a general election cannot come soon enough. you have _ election cannot come soon enough. you have a — election cannot come soon enough. you have a leader of the tuc which is the umbrella body of unions in the uk. some union leaders think sir keir starmer isn't being bold enough needs to go further. do you think he will be bowled over the next year? every union leader in the country will be _ every union leader in the country will be agreed on one point, we need a labour— will be agreed on one point, we need a labour government. of course she's ambitious _ a labour government. of course she's ambitious for— a labour government. of course she's ambitious for him and is that's right — ambitious for him and is that's right and _ ambitious for him and is that's right. and i think his speech today was ambitious for people. talking about— was ambitious for people. talking about smashing classes and talking about— about smashing classes and talking about building those new homes and prosperity— about building those new homes and prosperity in every part of the country — prosperity in every part of the country. after 13 years of falling standards — country. after 13 years of falling standards the british public need that change. standards the british public need that change-— that change. there was also a messa . e that change. there was also a message at — that change. there was also a message at the _ that change. there was also a message at the end _ that change. there was also a message at the end of - that change. there was also a message at the end of the - that change. there was also a - message at the end of the speech that seems to me a bit of message about being optimistic after the rutherglen by—election but what is your sense, are you preparing for a labour government next year? it labour government next year? it takes a 97 style swing to get one seat _ takes a 97 style swing to get one seat bo — takes a 97 style swing to get one seat. , ., ~' takes a 97 style swing to get one seat. ,, ~' 3 takes a 97 style swing to get one seat. i. ,, �*, ., takes a 97 style swing to get one seat. ,, ~ �*, ., ., seat. do you think it's going to ha--en? seat. do you think it's going to happen? l _ seat. do you think it's going to happen? i think _ seat. do you think it's going to happen? i think it's _ seat. do you think it's going to happen? i think it's possible i seat. do you think it's going to i happen? i think it's possible and i think the message _ happen? i think it's possible and i think the message you _ happen? i think it's possible and i think the message you can - happen? i think it's possible and i think the message you can take . happen? i think it's possible and i i think the message you can take from that by—election in scotland is when you talk— that by—election in scotland is when you talk about that new deal for workers — you talk about that new deal for workers and a ban on zero—hours contracts— workers and a ban on zero—hours contracts and i think you will see a labour— contracts and i think you will see a labour government in 2024 and it can't _ labour government in 2024 and it can't come — labour government in 2024 and it can't come sooner. —— soon enough. t hank— can't come sooner. —— soon enough. thank you — can't come sooner. —— soon enough. thank you for— can't come sooner. —— soon enough. thank you for talking to us. as you can see, people are piling out after that speech and it's getting rather busyin that speech and it's getting rather busy in liverpool. but the big question i think is going to be asked after sir keir starmer�*s speech is what is the vision look like an everyday terms? the 1.5 million houses that have been promised as a big deal to people who want to buy a house for rent but backin want to buy a house for rent but back in 2019 we were talking about the conservatives also offering that vision of 1.5 million new houses in the second part of the 20 20s. so there is that question about deliverability. the argument labour make and i've heard it for the past two weeks but crystallised by sir keir starmer there is that they are prepared to take on the fight and make the changes that would need to happen to deliver those homes by changing some planning rules like for example reclassifying some of the green belt in england to make sure that more houses can be built. that again sounds good but one of the questions that is always asked is when people turn up and say i don't want that tower block year, are you going to overrule them or tell them it has to happen? let's try and figure out some of those details with someone from the shadow cabinet. i have yvette cooper with me, the shadow home secretary. let me, the shadow home secretary. let me ask you specifically about house—building. 1.5 million new homes overfive years. house—building. 1.5 million new homes over five years. it sounds familiar and something the conservatives have been promising. what in concrete terms are you prepared to do that is different to make it happen? you prepared to do that is different to make it happen?— prepared to do that is different to make it happen? you had a brilliant seech make it happen? you had a brilliant speech from — make it happen? you had a brilliant speech from sir— make it happen? you had a brilliant speech from sir keir— make it happen? you had a brilliant speech from sir keir starmer- make it happen? you had a brilliant speech from sir keir starmer which | speech from sir keir starmer which was a _ speech from sir keir starmer which was a vision — speech from sir keir starmer which was a vision of national renewal after— was a vision of national renewal after the — was a vision of national renewal after the chaos we've had and it does _ after the chaos we've had and it does mean building homes for first—time buyers and he's talked about— first—time buyers and he's talked about is— first—time buyers and he's talked about is having new towns across the country _ about is having new towns across the country an _ about is having new towns across the country. an approach which works with local— country. an approach which works with local councils and local community so you get that local support — community so you get that local su ort. . . community so you get that local su ort. . , ., community so you get that local su--ort. . , .,. . support. that is to challenge the conservatives _ support. that is to challenge the conservatives have _ support. that is to challenge the conservatives have had - support. that is to challenge the conservatives have had in - conservatives have had in government.— conservatives have had in covernment. �* f government. but they've never actually done _ government. but they've never actually done it. _ government. but they've never actually done it. all _ government. but they've never actually done it. all the - actually done it. all the conservatives have done is talk. it's conservatives have done is talk. it's all— conservatives have done is talk. it's alljust — conservatives have done is talk. it's alljust been talk of the rhetoric— it's alljust been talk of the rhetoric and actually you've got to have _ rhetoric and actually you've got to have a _ rhetoric and actually you've got to have a proper approach. it's what the last— have a proper approach. it's what the last labour government did after the last labour government did after the second world war to have that plan and _ the second world war to have that plan and vision to make sure that you can _ plan and vision to make sure that you can get — plan and vision to make sure that you can get the homes first—time buyers— you can get the homes first—time buyers need. we did start to discuss some _ buyers need. we did start to discuss some of— buyers need. we did start to discuss some of these ideas before the end of the _ some of these ideas before the end of the last— some of these ideas before the end of the last labour government and then we _ of the last labour government and then we had the 2010 election and then we had the 2010 election and the conservatives cancelled it all. but they— the conservatives cancelled it all. but they were communities at that time that— but they were communities at that time that were talking about looking at these _ time that were talking about looking at these sorts of ideas because i think— at these sorts of ideas because i think people want to know that their kids can _ think people want to know that their kids can get homes of their own rather— kids can get homes of their own rather than still being sofa surfing and living — rather than still being sofa surfing and living with them. it's about the future _ and living with them. it's about the future and — and living with them. it's about the future and it's notjust about housing, _ future and it's notjust about housing, it's about getting our economy— housing, it's about getting our economy growing and getting in modern — economy growing and getting in modern energy system and a proper industrial— modern energy system and a proper industrial policy and the green industries of the future and renewing our public services. one of the most fascinating _ renewing our public services. one of the most fascinating things - renewing our public services. one of the most fascinating things in - renewing our public services. one of the most fascinating things in this i the most fascinating things in this conference has been rachel reeves and sir keir starmer saying you think you can win the battle on the economy. something that traditionally has been safer footing for the conservatives. what has changed which means you can win that fight? changed which means you can win that fiuht? ~ �* . changed which means you can win that fiuht? �* . changed which means you can win that fi.ht?. . . ;~_ . , changed which means you can win that fiuht? �* . . changed which means you can win that fight? we've had 13 years of wink urowth 13 fight? we've had 13 years of wink growth 13 years _ fight? we've had 13 years of wink growth 13 years where _ fight? we've had 13 years of wink growth 13 years where people i fight? we've had 13 years of wink i growth 13 years where people have seen the _ growth 13 years where people have seen the cost of living go up in their— seen the cost of living go up in their standard of living get worse, wages _ their standard of living get worse, wages fall. people are getting left behind _ wages fall. people are getting left behind. that is the impact the conservative have had. it wasn't 'ust conservative have had. it wasn't just that — conservative have had. it wasn't just that disastrous mini budget with a _ just that disastrous mini budget with a crashed the economy. labour will stand _ with a crashed the economy. labour will stand up for working people and -et will stand up for working people and get that— will stand up for working people and get that stability back. rishi will stand up for working people and get that stability back.— get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying _ get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying l _ get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying i came _ get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying i came in _ get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying i came in at - get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying i came in at the i get that stability back. rishi sunak is also saying i came in at the liz i is also saying i came in at the liz truss and fix things and we're starting to inflation down. he has been art starting to inflation down. he has been part of _ starting to inflation down. he has been part of 13 — starting to inflation down. he has been part of 13 years _ starting to inflation down. he has been part of 13 years of— starting to inflation down. he has been part of 13 years of a - been part of 13 years of a conservative government and do you feel better _ conservative government and do you feel better off than you were 13 years _ feel better off than you were 13 years ago? most people don't. it feels _ years ago? most people don't. it feels like — years ago? most people don't. it feels like things are broken, it feels — feels like things are broken, it feels like _ feels like things are broken, it feels like everything is going backwards. they have caused huge damage~ _ backwards. they have caused huge damage. we've had five conservative prime _ damage. we've had five conservative prime minister is in seven years. it's prime minister is in seven years. it's been — prime minister is in seven years. it's been chaos. what we have seen today— it's been chaos. what we have seen today as _ it's been chaos. what we have seen today as proper plans instead of a sticking _ today as proper plans instead of a sticking plaster we keep getting from _ sticking plaster we keep getting from the tories. you sticking plaster we keep getting from the tories.— sticking plaster we keep getting from the tories. ., . ,, . ., from the tories. you are the shadow home secretary. _ from the tories. you are the shadow home secretary, what _ from the tories. you are the shadow home secretary, what on _ from the tories. you are the shadow home secretary, what on earth i home secretary, what on earth happened at the start? it home secretary, what on earth happened at the start?- home secretary, what on earth happened at the start? it 'ust shows that ou happened at the start? it 'ust shows that you can-t * happened at the start? it 'ust shows that you can't bother i happened at the start? it 'ust shows that you can't bother sir i happened at the start? itjust shows that you can't bother sir keir - that you can't bother sir keir starmer— that you can't bother sir keir starmer with things like that. he not starmer with things like that. got right starmer with things like that. he: got right up to the leader of the opposition. it’s got right up to the leader of the opposition-— got right up to the leader of the opposition. it's about power not rotest. opposition. it's about power not protest- that — opposition. it's about power not protest. that is _ opposition. it's about power not protest. that is what _ opposition. it's about power not protest. that is what sir - opposition. it's about power not protest. that is what sir keir i protest. that is what sir keir starmer— protest. that is what sir keir starmer was talking about. he kept going _ starmer was talking about. he kept going and _ starmer was talking about. he kept going and made this amazing speech. but it— going and made this amazing speech. but it is— going and made this amazing speech. but it is a _ going and made this amazing speech. but it is a pretty serious security issue. . . �* but it is a pretty serious security issue. . , �* ., , but it is a pretty serious security issue. �* . , , ., , but it is a pretty serious security issue. �* . , , . issue. there wasn't any protest that was auoin issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to — issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to buy — issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to buy them. _ issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to buy them. you - issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to buy them. you are i issue. there wasn't any protest that was going to buy them. you are a i was going to buy them. you are a re was going to buy them. you are a pretty cautious — was going to buy them. you are a pretty cautious politician - was going to buy them. you are a pretty cautious politician by i was going to buy them. you are a| pretty cautious politician by nature but there is a lot of confident people here, at the right to be confident? taste people here, at the right to be confident?— people here, at the right to be confident? ~ ,, ., , . ' confident? we know we maybe have 12 months to go — confident? we know we maybe have 12 months to go until _ confident? we know we maybe have 12 months to go until an _ confident? we know we maybe have 12 months to go until an election - confident? we know we maybe have 12 months to go until an election or- months to go until an election or shorter— months to go until an election or shorter than that. we have to work for every— shorter than that. we have to work for every single vote. that is what labour _ for every single vote. that is what labour will — for every single vote. that is what labour will always do. we have 13 years _ labour will always do. we have 13 years of— labour will always do. we have 13 years of the conservatives, imagine the damage they would do with another— the damage they would do with another five years and the chaos of the weak _ another five years and the chaos of the weak growth, the running down of crucial— the weak growth, the running down of crucial public services and our nhs and policing. when things go wrong, nobody— and policing. when things go wrong, nobody comes a nothing is done. we have to _ nobody comes a nothing is done. we have to restore people because my confidence — have to restore people because my confidence and to allow —— turnaround the cost of living crisis~ — turnaround the cost of living crisis. but we have to work hard for every _ crisis. but we have to work hard for every single — crisis. but we have to work hard for every single vote. | crisis. but we have to work hard for every single vote.— every single vote. i got the sense that case. — every single vote. i got the sense that case, thought _ every single vote. i got the sense that case, thought some - every single vote. i got the sense that case, thought some people i every single vote. i got the sense i that case, thought some people were getting carried away with themselves. i was in rutherglen last week when un by—election and we had people from the labour party in scotland saying we are going to win a majority in scotland. his sir keir starmer worried that people might get complacent? the starmer worried that people might get complacent?— starmer worried that people might aet comlacent? i. . , get complacent? the thing you always hear from him — get complacent? the thing you always hear from him whenever _ get complacent? the thing you always hear from him whenever he _ get complacent? the thing you always hear from him whenever he talks i get complacent? the thing you always hear from him whenever he talks to i hear from him whenever he talks to the shadow— hear from him whenever he talks to the shadow cabinet or party members, it's always _ the shadow cabinet or party members, it's always about no complacency. you have — it's always about no complacency. you have to — it's always about no complacency. you have to earn every vote. you have — you have to earn every vote. you have to _ you have to earn every vote. you have to work — you have to earn every vote. you have to work hard in politics. you have _ have to work hard in politics. you have to _ have to work hard in politics. you have to make sure this is about service — have to make sure this is about service and _ have to make sure this is about service and serving the country and building _ service and serving the country and building a _ service and serving the country and building a better country. some of the things— building a better country. some of the things he was saying were powerful— the things he was saying were powerful about taking the burdens of people so _ powerful about taking the burdens of people so that people can get on with their— people so that people can get on with their lives and don't feel the government is dragging them down. but if— government is dragging them down. but if you _ government is dragging them down. but if you want to prove that you have _ but if you want to prove that you have to — but if you want to prove that you have to earn that and you have to work _ have to earn that and you have to work hard — have to earn that and you have to work hard so i think with sir keir starmer— work hard so i think with sir keir starmer you will see him working hard _ starmer you will see him working hard every— starmer you will see him working hard every single step of the way to make _ hard every single step of the way to make those arguments to the country. one of— make those arguments to the country. one of the _ make those arguments to the country. one of the arguments we've heard from some people is that sir keir starmer needs to be a bit bolder. i know that really frustrates labour strategists because they say people don't want balde offerings just now, they want stability. but do you think what he has delivered over the past hour is enough to excite the public and stop people thinking maybe we will give labour a try by default to actually be enthusiastic? i think people want security back because — i think people want security back because everybody has felt so insecure — because everybody has felt so insecure as a result of what's been happening — insecure as a result of what's been happening in recent years and they want to— happening in recent years and they want to be — happening in recent years and they want to be able to build a better future — want to be able to build a better future. what he's talking about is giving _ future. what he's talking about is giving britain its future back and that is— giving britain its future back and that is an — giving britain its future back and that is an optimistic vision and what _ that is an optimistic vision and what can— that is an optimistic vision and what can be better for our kids on the way— what can be better for our kids on the way in — what can be better for our kids on the way in which we can improve education. — the way in which we can improve education, the newjobs of the future — education, the newjobs of the future in — education, the newjobs of the future in green industries of the future _ future in green industries of the future of— future in green industries of the future of a — future in green industries of the future of a new towns we are talking about, _ future of a new towns we are talking about, so _ future of a new towns we are talking about, so many different things that are about _ about, so many different things that are about that strong growth and strong _ are about that strong growth and strong optimistic future and then as part of— strong optimistic future and then as part of that — strong optimistic future and then as part of that being able to restore those _ part of that being able to restore those services like the nhs, policing, _ those services like the nhs, policing, the things all of us depend _ policing, the things all of us depend on. policing, the things all of us depend om— policing, the things all of us deend on. . ,, . ., depend on. thank you so much for talkin: to depend on. thank you so much for talking to us- _ depend on. thank you so much for talking to us. that _ depend on. thank you so much for talking to us. that is _ depend on. thank you so much for talking to us. that is yvette - talking to us. that is yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary. you can feel the optimism here, you can almost feel a sense that the labour party thinks the tide is turning as sir keir starmer said in his speech and we got the broad prospectus from the labour leader about what he thinks he can sell to an electorate over the next year or so in the run up to a general election. house—building at the heart of it and that idea of rebuilding the country a lot more broadly will be his pitch to voters. the big question now is, what do they think of it?— they think of it? thank you very much indeed. _ they think of it? thank you very much indeed. sir— they think of it? thank you very much indeed. sir keir— they think of it? thank you very much indeed. sir keir starmeri they think of it? thank you very i much indeed. sir keir starmer having just finished his keynote speech at the conference in liverpool. let's remind you of how he wound up that speech a short time ago. truth? remind you of how he wound up that speech a short time ago. why labour? because we shall— speech a short time ago. why labour? because we shall save _ speech a short time ago. why labour? because we shall save your— speech a short time ago. why labour? because we shall save your interest, l because we shall save your interest, why labour? — because we shall save your interest, why labour? before _ because we shall save your interest, why labour? before we _ because we shall save your interest, why labour? before we will - because we shall save your interest, why labour? before we will grow- why labour? before we will grow every _ why labour? before we will grow every corner _ why labour? before we will grow every corner of _ why labour? before we will grow every corner of our— why labour? before we will grow every corner of our country. i why labour? before we will grow every corner of our country. why| every corner of our country. why labour? — every corner of our country. why labour? because _ every corner of our country. why labour? because we _ every corner of our country. why labour? because we have - every corner of our country. why labour? because we have a i every corner of our country. why labour? because we have a plan every corner of our country. why. labour? because we have a plan to take back— labour? because we have a plan to take back our— labour? because we have a plan to take back our streets, _ labour? because we have a plan to take back our streets, switch - labour? because we have a plan to take back our streets, switch on i take back our streets, switch on great _ take back our streets, switch on great british— take back our streets, switch on great british energy, _ take back our streets, switch on great british energy, get - take back our streets, switch on great british energy, get the i take back our streets, switch on i great british energy, get the nhs back on— great british energy, get the nhs back on its— great british energy, get the nhs back on its feet, _ great british energy, get the nhs back on its feet, tear— great british energy, get the nhs back on its feet, tear down - great british energy, get the nhs back on its feet, tear down the i back on its feet, tear down the barriers — back on its feet, tear down the barriers to— back on its feet, tear down the barriers to opportunity- back on its feet, tear down the barriers to opportunity and i back on its feet, tear down the barriers to opportunity and getj barriers to opportunity and get britain — barriers to opportunity and get britain building _ barriers to opportunity and get britain building again. - barriers to opportunity and get britain building again. a - barriers to opportunity and get britain building again. a plan i barriers to opportunity and get i britain building again. a plan for the briton — britain building again. a plan for the briton built— britain building again. a plan for the briton built to _ britain building again. a plan for the briton built to last, - britain building again. a plan for the briton built to last, a - britain building again. a plan for the briton built to last, a plan. britain building again. a plan forj the briton built to last, a plan to heal— the briton built to last, a plan to heal the — the briton built to last, a plan to heal the wounds, _ the briton built to last, a plan to heal the wounds, a _ the briton built to last, a plan to heal the wounds, a plan - the briton built to last, a plan to heal the wounds, a plan to- the briton built to last, a plan to heal the wounds, a plan to turni the briton built to last, a plan to i heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page _ heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and _ heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say— heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in— heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in a— heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in a cry— heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in a cry of— heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in a cry of defiance i heal the wounds, a plan to turn the page and say in a cry of defiance to| page and say in a cry of defiance to all those _ page and say in a cry of defiance to all those who — page and say in a cry of defiance to all those who now _ page and say in a cry of defiance to all those who now write _ page and say in a cry of defiance to all those who now write our- page and say in a cry of defiance to| all those who now write our country off, britain— all those who now write our country off, britain must, _ all those who now write our country off, britain must, britain— all those who now write our country off, britain must, britain can, i off, britain must, britain can, britain — off, britain must, britain can, britain will _ off, britain must, britain can, britain will get _ off, britain must, britain can, britain will get its _ off, britain must, britain can, britain will get its future i off, britain must, britain can, | britain will get its future back. thank — britain will get its future back. thank you. _ britain will get its future back. thank you, conference. - applause. sir keir starmer giving his keynote speech at the labour conference which is being held in liverpool. he started off with a little bit of drama. you can see some of the glitter on his shirt, a demonstrator actually climbed onto the stage and through that glitter over him. there was a slight delay to the speech. the demonstrator we understand and the group taking responsibility for that i called people demand democracy. that demonstrator was bundled out of the conference hall. there is video circulating on social media of him being put into a police than. nick ardley has been at the conference for the study. obviously you have seen the delegates coming out and walking behind you in the hallway, did you get a sense of how that speech was received? i hallway, did you get a sense of how that speech was received?- that speech was received? i think it went down well _ that speech was received? i think it went down well is _ that speech was received? i think it went down well is the _ that speech was received? i think it went down well is the short - that speech was received? i think it| went down well is the short answer. may be unsurprising given it some of sir keir starmer�*s loyal supporters who have turned out to watch him. it's fascinating how quickly this party started to change. jeremy corbyn used to get an amazing reception, an almost unprecedented reception. sir keir starmer now gets a similar reception. he really does have a huge amount of support in this party and i think in part that's because of the optimism labour might be heading for power miles ahead in the polls, winning big by—elections. you heard the sense of cautious optimism from sir keir starmer saying he tide was turning but they still had to fight for every vote. we heard it from yvette cooper there as well. i want to talk to another person was in the whole, the former labour mp tracey raymond. a big part of that pitch is devolving powers to people like you in the local maize in england. do you know what powers you are going to get? it you know what powers you are going to net? . . ~ you know what powers you are going to net? , , ,, . to get? it seems like we are definitely — to get? it seems like we are definitely going _ to get? it seems like we are definitely going to _ to get? it seems like we are definitely going to get i to get? it seems like we are definitely going to get our . to get? it seems like we are - definitely going to get our future back _ definitely going to get our future back it — definitely going to get our future back it was _ definitely going to get our future back it was a _ definitely going to get our future back. it was a very— definitely going to get our future back. it was a very uplifting - definitely going to get our future . back. it was a very uplifting speech and certainly— back. it was a very uplifting speech and certainly the _ back. it was a very uplifting speech and certainly the section _ back. it was a very uplifting speech and certainly the section about - and certainly the section about widening — and certainly the section about widening powers— and certainly the section about widening powers and _ and certainly the section about widening powers and working i and certainly the section about - widening powers and working closely with a _ widening powers and working closely with a labour— widening powers and working closely with a labour government _ widening powers and working closely with a labour government was - with a labour government was incredibly— with a labour government was incredibly welcome. _ with a labour government was incredibly welcome. i've - with a labour government was incredibly welcome. i've beenl with a labour government was . incredibly welcome. i've been on with a labour government was - incredibly welcome. i've been on the 'ob a incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple — incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple of— incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple of years _ incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple of years and _ incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple of years and i _ incredibly welcome. i've been on the job a couple of years and i know- job a couple of years and i know exactly — job a couple of years and i know exactly what _ job a couple of years and i know exactly what more _ job a couple of years and i know exactly what more i— job a couple of years and i know exactly what more i could - job a couple of years and i know exactly what more i could do. job a couple of years and i know. exactly what more i could do with those _ exactly what more i could do with those wider— exactly what more i could do with those wider powers _ exactly what more i could do with those wider powers and _ exactly what more i could do with those wider powers and that - exactly what more i could do with - those wider powers and that surround housing _ those wider powers and that surround housing and _ those wider powers and that surround housing and transport _ those wider powers and that surround housing and transport and _ those wider powers and that surround housing and transport and skills - those wider powers and that surround housing and transport and skills in - housing and transport and skills in particuian — housing and transport and skills in particuian hire _ housing and transport and skills in articular. �* , ., ., ., . particular. are you going to get all the thins particular. are you going to get all the things you _ particular. are you going to get all the things you want? _ particular. are you going to get all the things you want? has - particular. are you going to get all the things you want? has he - particular. are you going to get all the things you want? has he told l particular. are you going to get all. the things you want? has he told you any specifics? the things you want? has he told you any specifics?— any specifics? powers over housing for example. _ any specifics? powers over housing for example. we — any specifics? powers over housing for example, we can _ any specifics? powers over housing for example, we can have - any specifics? powers over housing for example, we can have more - for example, we can have more strategic— for example, we can have more strategic planning _ for example, we can have more strategic planning powers - for example, we can have more strategic planning powers we i for example, we can have more. strategic planning powers we can work— strategic planning powers we can work and — strategic planning powers we can work and have _ strategic planning powers we can work and have a _ strategic planning powers we can work and have a wider— strategic planning powers we can work and have a wider vision - strategic planning powers we can work and have a wider vision fori strategic planning powers we can i work and have a wider vision for our region— work and have a wider vision for our region and — work and have a wider vision for our region and decide _ work and have a wider vision for our region and decide where _ work and have a wider vision for our region and decide where housing. work and have a wider vision for our. region and decide where housing goes and where _ region and decide where housing goes and where is _ region and decide where housing goes and where is good _ region and decide where housing goes and where is good strategically- region and decide where housing goes and where is good strategically for- and where is good strategically for businesses — and where is good strategically for businesses. and _ and where is good strategically for businesses. and transport - and where is good strategically for businesses. and transport is - and where is good strategically for. businesses. and transport is another really— businesses. and transport is another really important _ businesses. and transport is another really important level— businesses. and transport is another really important level of— businesses. and transport is another really important level of ownership l really important level of ownership i really important level of ownership i would _ really important level of ownership iwoutd say~ — really important level of ownership i would say-— really important level of ownership iwouldsa .�* y�* . i would say. andy burnham was saying about transport. _ i would say. andy burnham was saying about transport. one _ i would say. andy burnham was saying about transport. one of— i would say. andy burnham was saying about transport. one of the _ i would say. andy burnham was saying about transport. one of the big - about transport. one of the big questions with housing is, what you do if it's not popular locally? as the mayor of west yorkshire are you prepared to turn around to people and say we need it and i'm going to overrule you. for and say we need it and i'm going to overrule you-— overrule you. for all those families that are in — overrule you. for all those families that are in bed-and-breakfast - overrule you. for all those families that are in bed-and-breakfast we | that are in bed—and—breakfast we absolutely— that are in bed—and—breakfast we absolutely need _ that are in bed—and—breakfast we absolutely need to _ that are in bed—and—breakfast we absolutely need to deliver - that are in bed—and—breakfast wei absolutely need to deliver council housing — absolutely need to deliver council housing i— absolutely need to deliver council housing i grew— absolutely need to deliver council housing i grew up— absolutely need to deliver council housing. i grew up in— absolutely need to deliver council housing. i grew up in council- housing. i grew up in council housing _ housing. i grew up in council housing and _ housing. i grew up in council housing and i— housing. i grew up in council housing and i know- housing. i grew up in council housing and i know exactly i housing. i grew up in council- housing and i know exactly what it gives _ housing and i know exactly what it gives you. — housing and i know exactly what it gives you. that _ housing and i know exactly what it gives you, that security _ housing and i know exactly what it gives you, that security and - housing and i know exactly what it gives you, that security and being| gives you, that security and being able to— gives you, that security and being able to say— gives you, that security and being able to say to _ gives you, that security and being able to say to me _ gives you, that security and being able to say to me as _ gives you, that security and being able to say to me as we _ gives you, that security and being able to say to me as we will - gives you, that security and being . able to say to me as we will support you to _ able to say to me as we will support you to build — able to say to me as we will support you to build council— able to say to me as we will support you to build council housing - able to say to me as we will support you to build council housing for- you to build council housing for your— you to build council housing for your population _ you to build council housing for your population. there - you to build council housing for your population. there are - you to build council housing for- your population. there are thousands of people _ your population. there are thousands of peopie on— your population. there are thousands of people on waiting _ your population. there are thousands of people on waiting lists. _ your population. there are thousands of people on waiting lists. they- of people on waiting lists. they need _ of people on waiting lists. they need a — of people on waiting lists. they need a good _ of people on waiting lists. they need a good start— of people on waiting lists. they need a good start in— of people on waiting lists. they need a good start in life. - of people on waiting lists. they need a good start in life.- of people on waiting lists. they need a good start in life. thank you for coming — need a good start in life. thank you for coming to _ need a good start in life. thank you for coming to talk— need a good start in life. thank you for coming to talk to _ need a good start in life. thank you for coming to talk to us. _ need a good start in life. thank you for coming to talk to us. there - need a good start in life. thank you for coming to talk to us. there is i for coming to talk to us. there is going to be a lot of people mulling over the speech in the next few hours, trying to figure out the specifics and any policy questions. lots more across the bbc over the afternoon. it lots more across the bbc over the afternoon. , ., ., . ., lots more across the bbc over the afternoon-— afternoon. if you do want to get ourself afternoon. if you do want to get yourself up _ afternoon. if you do want to get yourself up to — afternoon. if you do want to get yourself up to speed _ afternoon. if you do want to get yourself up to speed with - afternoon. if you do want to get yourself up to speed with what. afternoon. if you do want to get - yourself up to speed with what took place in liverpool today, there is a lot of content you can find online at the bbc news website, including some from our very own nick eardley. you can find out what he had to say about the building of those new homes. the plan is to build 1.5 million new homes, that was his pledge on house—building. he could come not against planning permission and the use of the the grey belt but and the use of the the grey belt but a lot on the website and just to update you, a man has been arrested over the glitter incident at the beginning of his speech. you are watching bbc 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