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United nations investigators are on their way to the Ukrainian Village where a Missile Strike killed more than 50 people on thursday, in one of the deadliest single attacks on civilians since russias invasion began. They will gather evidence and testimony, which could be used in any future war crimes trial. Ukraine has accused russia of deliberately targeting a funeral wake in hroza in the North Eastern kharkiv region. Every family there was affected when a missile hit a cafe where mourners had gathered after a funeral. Footage released by kharkiv officials reveals extensive damage after a missile attack. The local prosecutor insists the attack was deliberate. The kremlin says it doesnt target civilians. What is certain is the level of Human Suffering involved. Listen to this witness. A warning, you might find his testimony distressing. Translation i wish i were dead. All my dearest people will be laid here. Our village was very united. What am i going to do now . Close friends, cousins, all were killed. My dearest people will be put to rest here. For more on this, heres our correspondent James Waterhouse, who is on the ground in hroza. As you can see, a memorial has been set up in the middle of the blast zone where this missile hit yesterday. We are in a playground where most of the bodies were recovered. And eerily, the swings and the slide are still standing. And hroza is a tiny settlement. It feels very strange to be stood in such destruction in somewhere so small. You can see vehicles have been caved in by the sheer force of the blast, and such is the power generated, its not immediately obvious what was hit. A lot of the debris has been cleared away to the side. You can see a fridge. You can see air conditioning units, twisted metal, all these Signature Signs of a Missile Strike. And then here you have the building that was directly hit, a cafe shop where a funeral wake was taking place yesterday for a ukrainian soldier. Now, as far as the prosecutor for this area is concerned, it was a deliberate attack by moscow. The use of a ballistic missile, these iskander missiles, which are fairly accurate, reinforces that claim. But for now, you just have a scene like this in a village of 300, and it impacts everyone here. It goes far beyond this scene of devastation where, once again, we see civilian areas, civilians themselves, targeted by russian missiles. And theres debris like this dotted around. And you can tell its from a missile because its heavy. It is dense metal. Its quite a sight for a village so small. That was James Waterhouse their reporting. Almost unimaginable scenes there. Almost unimaginable scenes there. Approximately 400 miles to the south, in the russian controlled port of sevastopol, there are signs that russian grip on occupied crimea, and the black sea itself, may be slipping, following a number of successful attacks on russian ships and naval facilities. Its been reported that russia has moved nearly all of its Black Sea Fleet from sevastopol in crimea. The bbc hasnt independently verified that. Lets explore that idea a little. Lets explore that idea a little. We are joined by Military Expert and retired colonel brendan kearney, who served 31 years with the us marine corps. Hes worked extensively with nato in europe. Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Thank you very much for coming on the programme thank you very much for coming on the programme. Good to be with you. Lets start with the programme. Good to be with you. Lets start with this the programme. Good to be with you. Lets start with this idea the programme. Good to be with you. Lets start with this idea of the programme. Good to be with you. Lets start with this idea of what lets start with this idea of what is happening on occupied crimea, and potential movements of the fleet there. What significance, if any, would that hold . I there. What significance, if any, would that hold . Would that hold . I think its of particular would that hold . I think its of particular significance, would that hold . I think its of| particular significance, because what it shows is that the russians no longer have confidence that they can go ahead and defend the fleet while it is in sevastopol. That is important, because by moving them around the corner of crimea, and off to russia, and potentially off to a port, get to be designated port, to that it takes that fleet and breaks it up, and that is for the benefit of the ukrainians. Itjust shows the russians are having a lack of confidence in their ability to defend both of the fleet and crimea. Interesting. What role has the ukrainian strikes played on that . And also what role has Western Support supporting those strikes played . Imilli support supporting those strikes la ed . ~. , ~ support supporting those strikes. La ed . ~. , ~ support supporting those strikes la ed . Played . Will take the last part first. The western played . Will take the last part first. The Western Support played . Will take the last part first. The Western Support hasj played . Will take the last part first. The Western Support has been critical because it has provided them with the technology in terms of them with the technology in terms of the Cruise Missiles and the anti ship missiles which have been devastating on the russian fleet itself. And of course that tremendous damage that was done to the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleetjust the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet just a couple the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleetjust a couple of the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet just a couple of weeks the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleetjust a couple of weeks ago. The other aspect is that the ukrainians have mixed up the use, or mixed in, the use of commandos. They are using armed drones. They really are using armed drones. They really are attacking the russians at places and at times of their choosing. That just really, from a defensive perspective, is giving the russians one heck of a headache. They are clearly not successful in countering that. I clearly not successful in countering that. , clearly not successful in countering that. ,. That. I have to ask you about the attack on the that. I have to ask you about the attack on the village that. I have to ask you about the attack on the village that that. I have to ask you about the attack on the village that we that. I have to ask you about the l attack on the village that we have just been reporting from. Beyond the devastating loss of life, and the toll that that will take, and the emotional impact, i wonder whether, when you have been reading about it, whether it can tell us about the state of the conflict at all, more broadly . It state of the conflict at all, more broadl . ,. ,. , broadly . It is not an escalation. What it is broadly . It is not an escalation. What it is is broadly . It is not an escalation. What it is is a broadly . It is not an escalation. What it is is a continuation broadly . It is not an escalation. What it is is a continuation of. Broadly . It is not an escalation. I what it is is a continuation of what has been a war on the ukrainian people. It is a war of terror. It is a war on the unarmed and innocent, targeting of civilian targets. And as your reporter says, it appears they were purposely targeting this week for the ukrainian soldier in the small village. It is a crime against humanity. It goes against the law of war. There is no Military Value to be had by this. It is pure terror. The russians seemingly are convinced they can go ahead and terrorise the ukrainian people into some type of subjugation. It has been just the opposite. It increases the will of the ukrainian people to resist and it also supports those western people who are going ahead and saying, this is another. Russias actions are just absolutely abysmal and cannot be supported, so therefore we are going to support ukraine. I therefore we are going to support ukraine. , therefore we are going to support ukraine. ,. , ukraine. I want to bring Our Panelling ukraine. I want to bring Our Panelling and ukraine. I want to bring Our Panelling and their ukraine. I want to bring our. Panelling and their expertise, ukraine. I want to bring Our Panelling and their expertise, lord kim darroch, former uk ambassador to the us and adviser, if i can come to you first. Your reflections on what we have been hearing about. First of all i have we have been hearing about. First of all i have to we have been hearing about. First of all i have to pay we have been hearing about. First of all i have to pay tribute we have been hearing about. First of all i have to pay tribute to we have been hearing about. First of all i have to pay tribute to james all i have to pay tribute to James Waterhouse. His war live reporting has been waterhouse. His war live reporting has been extraordinary and it takes courage has been extraordinary and it takes courage to has been extraordinary and it takes courage to be exposed to the front line. Courage to be exposed to the front line i courage to be exposed to the front line. Iagree, the russians have been line. Iagree, the russians have been targeting civilian areas, towns and villages, throughout this war. There and villages, throughout this war. There is and villages, throughout this war. There is no and villages, throughout this war. There is no question in my mind that this was there is no question in my mind that this was deliberate. It is about trying this was deliberate. It is about trying to this was deliberate. It is about trying to separate the will of the ukrainian trying to separate the will of the ukrainian people to continue to prosecute the war. This is by war crimes prosecute the war. This is by War Crimes Tribunal is getting involved and why crimes tribunal is getting involved and why they are being accused of war crimes and why they are being accused of war crimes. Lets hope that they net, war crimes. Lets hope that they get, that war crimes. Lets hope that they get, that they have to face trial at some get, that they have to face trial at some point get, that they have to face trial at some point on this. The third point, very quickly, some point on this. The third point, very quickly, it is a real breakthrough for the ukrainians to appear breakthrough for the ukrainians to appear to breakthrough for the ukrainians to appear to be driving out the Black Sea Fleet, appear to be driving out the Black Sea Fleet, within the battle for the Black Sea Fleet, within the battle for the black sea sea fleet, within the battle for the black sea. For me, it tells one fascinating story, which is comparatively small, comparatively inexpensive weapons, drones and missiles, inexpensive weapons, drones and missiles, seem to me a factor, a big factor missiles, seem to me a factor, a big factor in missiles, seem to me a factor, a big factor in driving big, expensive bits factor in driving big, expensive hits of factor in driving big, expensive hits of kit. Factor in driving big, expensive bits of kit, frigates and submarines and fighter bits of kit, frigates and submarines and fighter aircraft, away from the front and fighter aircraft, away from the front line and fighter aircraft, away from the front line i and fighter aircraft, away from the front line. Ijust wonder, in the longer front line. Ijust wonder, in the longer term, what message Military Strategists across the world draw from strategists across the world draw from the strategists across the world draw from the way this war is unfolding. 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