candidate katie loudon, who came second. that's a swing from snp to labourof snp to labour of slightly more than 20%. the scottish labour leader says that the results show that scottish politics has fundamentally changed. this comes after the removal of snp mp margaret ferrier who was removed after breaking coronavirus rules. michael shanks, scottish labour party, 17,831. this was a stunning victory widely forecast but not with a win and a swing as big as this. it's time for change. that change can't come fast enough but one thing is now clear, there is no part of this country where labour can't win. winning hamilton and rutherglen west doubles the number of seats labour has in scotland from one to two. small numbers but the party has big ambitions ahead. it's an extraordinary win and i think this is a seismic night here in scotland and a historic one and i think scottish politics has fundamentally changed and i think people in rutherglen and hamilton west have sent a very clear message that they are sick of too tired, incompetent and failing governments and they are desperate for a fresh start. they are desperate for change in the vehicle for that change is and the vehicle for that change is now scottish labour. the snp was already facing challenges heading into this vote but this, the first by—election loss that them in 16 years in power is another blow. i recognise that this is a big challenge. and we need to come together— challenge. and we need to come together to right the wrongs of the last few_ together to right the wrongs of the last few months. turnout was low but this win was so emphatic that those crunching the numbers say if repeated across scotland in the next general election labour could win as many as 42 seats with the snp down to six. by—elections will often exaggerate the swing against the government. but, still, it's the direction of travel that you cannot ignore in this by—election and i suspect that if this kind of swing was to be replicated across scotland as a whole, you'd be talking about the labour party being the dominant party quite clearly across the north of the border, once again. keir starmer says winning this seat is a milestone on labour's road back to power. he will be hoping that this victory gives his party momentum to seize more scottish constituencies and with the election looming, perhaps also the keys to number 10. we are expecting sir keir starmer to speak to us today along with the winner, michael shanks.- speak to us today along with the winner, michael shanks. wright the labour had dominated _ winner, michael shanks. wright the labour had dominated the - winner, michael shanks. wright the labour had dominated the polls - winner, michael shanks. wright the labour had dominated the polls for| labour had dominated the polls for more than a decade, holding 41 seats in 2015 but that same year it was reduced to just one seat after a landslide victory after the snp won. and after that election labour have held that single seat. but that win sees the party's margin double tattoo but it's the scale of the margin that has generated the most interest. there was a swing of more than 20% for labour and this could be important in tightly contested general election. we can go live now to our political correspondent in rutherglen. nick, talk us through. it looks busy where you are. lots going on. what is happening? well, we are expecting the labour leader to arrive in the constituency pretty soon for a victory rally and i think it's a sign ofjust how important labour think this result is, that they are packing this rally out with top people from the party. look, over the last few months, labour's optimism about scotland is growing exponentially. i remember talking to people, we could get 10—15 seats could be winnable in scotland, then that went from 20—211 and i've been chatting to people in the hq this morning who say that it's possible 28 seats could come into play in scotland and if you think about the numbers in scotland we were talking about, as of this morning, we have two seats in scotland, that's a really big deal and it's well beyond scotland pass back borders because it could be absolutely crucial for a general election. we know that sir keir starmer is feeling optimistic about its prospects, if they can win 20-25 about its prospects, if they can win 20—25 or even 30 seats in scotland that will make the prospect of winning a majority a lot more feasible. be under no illusions, this is a big moment in scottish and uk politics. the question is going to be how big and how much momentum do labour have now? you to be how big and how much momentum do labour have now?— do labour have now? you said, all e es on do labour have now? you said, all eyes on that _ do labour have now? you said, all eyes on that area _ do labour have now? you said, all eyes on that area at _ do labour have now? you said, all eyes on that area at the _ do labour have now? you said, all eyes on that area at the moment, | eyes on that area at the moment, politically. how much of a surprise would you say it is that labour took this seat? mat would you say it is that labour took this seat? ., . ., ., , , , ., this seat? not much of a surprise at all is the honest _ this seat? not much of a surprise at all is the honest answer _ this seat? not much of a surprise at all is the honest answer to - this seat? not much of a surprise at all is the honest answer to that. - all is the honest answer to that. when i've been sitting down over the past few months with labour personnel they were pretty confident here. the question wasn't really whether labour were going to win this seat, they did when it in 2017 byjeremy corbyn but it's the extent of it, such a comfortable majority, that's what's really exciting people in the labour party this morning. they think this could be a launch pad, a big change moment in scottish politics. i've been in scottish politics. i've been in scottish politics for a decade and it's been pretty volatile since 2010. remember, labour used to rule the roost here in scotland but that changed after the referendum which saw labour voters turning to the snp, first past the post seats, but the question is what would break that? is there anything labour or the conservatives to do to tackle snp dominance, it feels even more so this morning like scottish politics could be at a bit of a crossroads. nothing is inevitable and the snp supporter still out there but there's a lot of people in scotland who still back independent and who could be tempted to vote snp at a general election. it changes over time. but having this followed the scottish labour party for a while, i've never seen a more enthusiastic group of people this morning. as you are saying, by—elections can bring exaggerated results on the ups and downs of voters and how they are feeling but let's take a look at the snp now. how do you think they are feeling? this was hamza yousef�*s first test since taking over as leader. how do you think they are feeling? i think they will be feeling very deflated right now. this constituency was run by margaret ferrier, she was sacked in the recall competition because she broke the law travelling between london and glasgow knowing that she had coronavirus. that followed the snp about on the doorstep. it's been a big news story, the arrest of nicola sturgeon, the arrest of her husband although both were released without charge. that has hit the snp. scottish elections are pretty complicated because there is a bit of a mixture of things that go into the mix. yes, there is views on the westminster government but also views on the scottish government at holyrood, views on independence, brexit as well but i think the snp this morning will be doing a lot of soul searching. the words being used by stephen flynn this morning was that the party needs to reflect quickly on what's just happened and it will be really interesting to hear what those reflections are over the next few weeks and months. i think chatting to some people from the snp last night, they felt that their vote wasn't turning out, partly because it wasn't infused and partly because it wasn't infused and partly because it wasn't infused and partly because the weather here was absolutely terrible. they feel they can get their vote out in the way they did in 2019, in the general election. thank you, nick, for your thoughts. we are keeping an eye on that stage there because we are expecting sir keir starmer to deliver a speech there. we are expecting that in the next few minutes and we will be bringing that to you, live. nick was saying how the snp were feeling. let's get some live reactions from some snp mps. sir david lyndon, mp for glasgow east. we have heard what nick thinks but how are you feeling, david? quite tired, being the honest answer, having spent most of the night broadcasting. a massive congratulations to michael shanks on his win in rutherglen and hamilton west. but, there is no getting away from the fact that this has been a challenging result for the snp. the backdrop to this campaign was at best sub optimal in terms of all of theissues best sub optimal in terms of all of the issues that you've outlined and it's the reason that we do need to be careful of transposing a by—election towards a general election but we take this on the chin, we will reflect on this and try to rebuild in the way that we rebuilt in 2017 when we lost that seat and regained it two years later. ~ , ., ,, ~' seat and regained it two years later. ~ , ., ~' . later. why do you think you failed and hamza _ later. why do you think you failed and hamza yousef_ later. why do you think you failed and hamza yousef failed - later. why do you think you failed and hamza yousef failed the - later. why do you think you failed and hamza yousef failed the test| and hamza yousef failed the test too? by and hamza yousef failed the test too? �* ., ., ., , �* ., too? a lot of voters didn't vote yesterday _ too? a lot of voters didn't vote yesterday and _ too? a lot of voters didn't vote yesterday and a _ too? a lot of voters didn't vote yesterday and a lot _ too? a lot of voters didn't vote yesterday and a lot of - too? a lot of voters didn't vote | yesterday and a lot of people... too? a lot of voters didn't vote - yesterday and a lot of people... you think it's down _ yesterday and a lot of people... you think it's down to people not voting or to a number of other things? i think there's a couple of things there, firstly, the fact that six out of ten voters did not vote. it was clear to me that the snp vote was clear to me that the snp vote was not coming out. we have to reflect on what more we need to do to motivate people to get out and vote. independence is still polling at 50% with the smb being the main vehicle to independence and there is an opportunity there for us and so that's something we need to look at. something not within our control was the total collapse of the conservative vote to delete that that then went to labour. you would have to put the issue to sir keir starmer about why the conservative voters feel so comfortable swinging to a labour government that is moving ever more towards the right. do you think it's something a party needs to reflect on and change when we look at drug deaths, the nhs waiting times? they have risen while you've been in power. do you think you've been in power. do you think you need to change your sales rather than those external factors? let’s than those external factors? let's take those — than those external factors? let's take those issues _ than those external factors? let's take those issues in _ than those external factors? let's take those issues in turn, - than those external factors? let�*s take those issues in turn, firstly we absolutely have work to do, we've had to move forward to safe consumption rooms in the last few weeks and that is a ready proof that you cannot criminalise people. secondly, waiting times, we still have the best waiting times of all nhs sections but in terms of snp buzz record in government, it's one i'm proud of. it's not a reflection of this campaign. i think in terms of this campaign. i think in terms of analysis of what went wrong for the snp was that our message did not land. we did not get a vote out. that's not a new thing. we have been there in 2017 and it's up to us to reflect on that process and turn things around and what we can do in a party conference next week is but a party conference next week is but a very strong message forward, with independence at its heart. we know it's polling at 50%, this cost of living crisis that crippling people is... �* , ., living crisis that crippling people is... but when you look at what voters want. — is... but when you look at what voters want, a _ is... but when you look at what voters want, a lot _ is... but when you look at what voters want, a lot vote - is... but when you look at what voters want, a lot vote on - is... but when you look at what i voters want, a lot vote on similar topics, really across the country, when you look at health, education and trust in a party and your party has faced some turbulent times, ongoing investigations into finances. can people trust your party? do you think that could have had a big impact?— had a big impact? well, look, i think the had a big impact? well, look, i thinkthe first— had a big impact? well, look, i think the first minister- think the first minister acknowledged that with this campaign as a backdrop, this is the worst you could imagine going into a by—election. that's something we've got to take on the chain, but in terms of trust, we've been in government for 16 years and in subsequent elections been voted for and given the overwhelming trust and i believe that people vote snp is because we have a vision for a fairer scotland, a wealthy out scotland which will come to independence and one thing i'm struck by over the course over the years, about labour talking about a fresh start and change and i find it rather difficult to see what that is in a labour party has the same position when it comes to bedroom tax, brexit, all sorts of policies where you could not get a cigarette paper between labour and conservative. yes, it's a by—election result which is disappointing for us but we will take it on the chamber as we hurtled towards the general election, i think we will come back stronger than ever and given what happened in 2017 2019i would than ever and given what happened in 2017 20191 would be confident and being assured of taking the seat back but we need to work to get that back. ., ~ back but we need to work to get that back. . ,, , ., back but we need to work to get that back. . ,, i. _, . ,, ,, back. thank you coming back, sir david lyndon. — back. thank you coming back, sir david lyndon, joining _ back. thank you coming back, sir david lyndon, joining us. - back. thank you coming back, sir david lyndon, joining us. let's i david lyndon, joining us. let's introduce out political pollster. joe, thank you for coming on. what are you taking away from this result? ~ , ., ~' , result? well the first thing to keep in mind and _ result? well the first thing to keep in mind and this _ result? well the first thing to keep in mind and this is _ result? well the first thing to keep in mind and this is really _ result? well the first thing to keepj in mind and this is really important is that— in mind and this is really important is that as _ in mind and this is really important is that as has been mentioned by many— is that as has been mentioned by many of— is that as has been mentioned by many of the guest this morning, by—elections are very unusual in many, _ by—elections are very unusual in many, many different ways and you have to _ many, many different ways and you have to be — many, many different ways and you have to be extremely careful taking too much _ have to be extremely careful taking too much of the national picture, whether— too much of the national picture, whether that's the picture across scotland — whether that's the picture across scotland or indeed across the whole of the _ scotland or indeed across the whole of the uk, _ scotland or indeed across the whole of the uk, based on what's are very unusuai— of the uk, based on what's are very unusual circumstances. as was previously _ unusual circumstances. as was previously mentioned, you could argue _ previously mentioned, you could argue this — previously mentioned, you could argue this was the worst case scenario— argue this was the worst case scenario for the snp to defend a seat but — scenario for the snp to defend a seat but having said all of that, politics — seat but having said all of that, politics is — seat but having said all of that, politics is so much about momentum and there _ politics is so much about momentum and there is— politics is so much about momentum and there is no doubt that this result— and there is no doubt that this result of— and there is no doubt that this result of magnitude provides enormous momentum for scottish labour, _ enormous momentum for scottish labour, nationally and sir keir starmer— labour, nationally and sir keir starmer going into the labour conference this week weekend. the key question is that we do not know what's _ key question is that we do not know what's happening with the snp voters who voted _ what's happening with the snp voters who voted yes at the indy referendum. are they staying with late, _ referendum. are they staying with late, sorry — referendum. are they staying with late, sorry snp. 0rare referendum. are they staying with late, sorry snp. or are they moving to labour— late, sorry snp. or are they moving to labour because that will determine the direction of travel, come _ determine the direction of travel, come the — determine the direction of travel, come the general election but unfortunately we don't know the answer — unfortunately we don't know the answer to — unfortunately we don't know the answer to that question, based on these _ answer to that question, based on these results. | answer to that question, based on these results.— these results. i think there are a lot of unanswered _ these results. i think there are a lot of unanswered questions - these results. i think there are a | lot of unanswered questions right now and a few surprised faces we've seen during the coverage. just while you are talking, i want to remind you are talking, i want to remind you that we are covering the snp by—election in scotland and you can see more of this on our live page, on our bbc live page, we have analysis and live reporting from our correspondence in scotland and around the country, giving their thoughts on what happened in rutherglen and just on the right of your screen, you will see live pictures in rutherglen and we are expecting sir keir starmer to be speaking there, alongside michael shanks, the new labour mp for rutherglen and hamilton west. let's bring you back in now. we are looking at these figures and labour getting very excited about it. you were just saying then that... how sensitive should labour be about this and how much could they really read into this? is this and how much could they really read into this?— read into this? is this 'ust a one—om fl read into this? is this 'ust a one-off? the t read into this? is this 'ust a one-off? the pointh read into this? is thisjust a one-off? the point is, - read into this? is thisjust a one-off? the point is, we l read into this? is thisjust a - one-off? the point is, we don't know. one-off? the point is, we don't know we _ one-off? the point is, we don't know. we don't _ one-off? the point is, we don't know. we don't know— one-off? the point is, we don't know. we don't know is - one-off? the point is, we don't know. we don't know is what i know. we don't know is what happening to the snp voters who voted _ happening to the snp voters who voted yes. the key number for viewers — voted yes. the key number for viewers to— voted yes. the key number for viewers to remember is that hundred and 26. _ viewers to remember is that hundred and 26, that's the number of seats that it's _ and 26, that's the number of seats that it's estimated labour will need to gain _ that it's estimated labour will need to gain at _ that it's estimated labour will need to gain at the next election to get a majority — to gain at the next election to get a majority. scotland could potentially play an enormous role in that search — potentially play an enormous role in that search for a majority, for labour~ — that search for a majority, for labour~ 0n— that search for a majority, for labour. 0n the basis of this result, but you _ labour. 0n the basis of this result, but you have — labour. 0n the basis of this result, but you have to be very careful reading — but you have to be very careful reading too much into this, on the basis _ reading too much into this, on the basis of— reading too much into this, on the basis of this — reading too much into this, on the basis of this result, labour could expect— basis of this result, labour could exgect up— basis of this result, labour could expect up to 40 games in scotland atone, _ expect up to 40 games in scotland alone, that — expect up to 40 games in scotland alone, that would take them a long way towards that 126 that they need to make _ way towards that 126 that they need to make the task for labour nationally easier, but you could argue _ nationally easier, but you could argue that this is the best case scenario — argue that this is the best case scenario. they may be only gained 20, that— scenario. they may be only gained 20, that still needs more than 100 to be _ 20, that still needs more than 100 to be gained across the ukjust to -et to be gained across the ukjust to get over— to be gained across the ukjust to get over the line for a majority. by historicai— get over the line for a majority. by historical standards, the challenge facing _ historical standards, the challenge facing labour remains high but with results _ facing labour remains high but with results like — facing labour remains high but with results like this and indeed other by—elections we've seen in england, it points _ by—elections we've seen in england, it points to— by—elections we've seen in england, it points to the fact that it could be done — it points to the fact that it could be done. �* , it points to the fact that it could be done. 3 ., ~ it points to the fact that it could be done. �*, ., ,, ., ., be done. let's take a look at the scottish conservatives _ be done. let's take a look at the scottish conservatives as - be done. let's take a look at the scottish conservatives as well. l be done. let's take a look at the l scottish conservatives as well. we know they ended up losing their deposit because the vote was so low. could you talk us through that and what happened there? lltrul’eiiii could you talk us through that and what happened there?— what happened there? well this is one of the really _ what happened there? well this is one of the really interesting - one of the really interesting questions, because the conservatives are on— questions, because the conservatives are on 15% _ questions, because the conservatives are on 15% in — questions, because the conservatives are on 15% in the last election and they fail— are on 15% in the last election and they fail right away, losing their deposit — they fail right away, losing their deposit. the snp are presenting that that it's _ deposit. the snp are presenting that that it's not sm voters moving to labour, — that it's not sm voters moving to labour, its — that it's not sm voters moving to labour, its conservative boats moving — labour, its conservative boats moving to _ labour, its conservative boats moving to labour. —— snp votes. this is because _ moving to labour. —— snp votes. this is because snp supporters are staying — is because snp supporters are staying at home and will come out a general— staying at home and will come out a general election, where as conservative voters have switched to labour _ conservative voters have switched to labour which is driving their popularity. but ultimately, we don't know _ popularity. but ultimately, we don't know it's _ popularity. but ultimately, we don't know. it's proper combination of all of these _ know. it's proper combination of all of these things but the degree to which _ of these things but the degree to which one — of these things but the degree to which one it is is not knowable because — which one it is is not knowable because we don't have the data. there _ because we don't have the data. there is— because we don't have the data. there is a — because we don't have the data. there is a lot of speculation here as we try and look into these figures. where you shocked when you heard how much of a swing labour had? ~ ., , �* heard how much of a swing labour had? �* had? well, i wasn't say i was shocked but _ had? well, i wasn't say i was shocked but it _ had? well, i wasn't say i was shocked but it was _ had? well, i wasn't say i was shocked but it was more - had? well, i wasn't say i was - shocked but it was more surprising and shocking, i would put it that way _ and shocking, i would put it that way the — and shocking, i would put it that way. the thing about scotland is that relatively speaking there's not much _ that relatively speaking there's not much in _ that relatively speaking there's not much in the way of published polling that takes— much in the way of published polling that takes place, compared to the nation _ that takes place, compared to the nation as— that takes place, compared to the nation as a — that takes place, compared to the nation as a whole where we have numbers — nation as a whole where we have numbers of— nation as a whole where we have numbers of polls from different pollsters every week. we didn't really _ pollsters every week. we didn't really have any hard evidence of how this was— really have any hard evidence of how this was playing out on the ground. most— this was playing out on the ground. most politicians say that they don't look at _ most politicians say that they don't look at the polls but they can't exactly — look at the polls but they can't exactly say that they don't look at by—election results, that doesn't go down _ by—election results, that doesn't go down well— by—election results, that doesn't go down well so this is the first proper— down well so this is the first proper challenge that hamza yousef has faced _ proper challenge that hamza yousef has faced as snp leader. this is the first data _ has faced as snp leader. this is the first data point to see how things are going. — first data point to see how things are going, before this a swing of around _ are going, before this a swing of around 10% would have been seen as the minimum that labour would would want to— the minimum that labour would would want to come away with and think it was a _ want to come away with and think it was a good — want to come away with and think it was a good day at the office and they've — was a good day at the office and they've exceeded that by some distance — they've exceeded that by some distance. so the fact they won is not a _ distance. so the fact they won is not a surprise but the fact that they— not a surprise but the fact that they won — not a surprise but the fact that they won by this margin was surprising. they won by this margin was surprising-— they won by this margin was surrisinu. �* . , ., ,, , surprising. and finally, talk us throu . h surprising. and finally, talk us through it _ surprising. and finally, talk us through it why _ surprising. and finally, talk us through it why this _ surprising. and finally, talk us through it why this matters i surprising. and finally, talk us through it why this matters to | surprising. and finally, talk us . through it why this matters to the uk as a whole, especially as there are lots of conferences for all parties going on, looking ahead to the general election next year. this matters because there has to be a general— matters because there has to be a general election byjanuary in 2024 although— general election byjanuary in 2024 although i— general election byjanuary in 2024 although i don't think they will wait that— although i don't think they will wait that long so we can assume it will be _ wait that long so we can assume it will be may— wait that long so we can assume it will be may autumn next year which means— will be may autumn next year which means that — will be may autumn next year which means that labour who are doing very well in _ means that labour who are doing very well in the _ means that labour who are doing very well in the polls at the moment and have been— well in the polls at the moment and have been doing consistently well we want to— have been doing consistently well we want to translate that strong poll performance into gains, actual gains in individual— performance into gains, actual gains in individual seats and as i say, it's estimated that need 120 games in the _ it's estimated that need 120 games in the next — it's estimated that need 120 games in the next election. that's a very large _ in the next election. that's a very large number, historically speaking, and only— large number, historically speaking, and only tony blair has reached that by one _ and only tony blair has reached that by one seat — and only tony blair has reached that by one seat. so if labour can do very— by one seat. so if labour can do very well— by one seat. so if labour can do very well in— by one seat. so if labour can do very well in scotland, if they had one of— very well in scotland, if they had one of the — very well in scotland, if they had one of the 59 seats —— they only have _ one of the 59 seats —— they only have one — one of the 59 seats —— they only have one of _ one of the 59 seats —— they only have one of the 59 seats, but if they— have one of the 59 seats, but if they can — have one of the 59 seats, but if they can gain seats then it will make — they can gain seats then it will make things easier nationally which means— make things easier nationally which means the — make things easier nationally which means the possibility of a labour majority — means the possibility of a labour majority is — means the possibility of a labour majority is greater.— means the possibility of a labour majority is greater. thank you, joe, for “oininr majority is greater. thank you, joe, forjoining us— majority is greater. thank you, joe, forjoining us here _ majority is greater. thank you, joe, forjoining us here on _ majority is greater. thank you, joe, forjoining us here on bbc- majority is greater. thank you, joe, forjoining us here on bbc news. i forjoining us here on bbc news. let's bring injason allardyce, former editor of the sunday times. jason, i'd like to get your reaction to what happened overnight. what jason, i'd like to get your reaction to what happened overnight. what a difference a day _ to what happened overnight. what a difference a day makes. _ to what happened overnight. what a difference a day makes. there i to what happened overnight. what a difference a day makes. there was l to what happened overnight. what a j difference a day makes. there was a lot of excitement yesterday in snp circles because hamza yousef was invited onto the cover of a special time magazine. not a huge surprise that the margin is on the upper ends of what labour had theirs to hope. i think this is the result of a perfect storm. i think s&p had internal —— snp had internal difficulties with the loss of their popular leader nicola sturgeon. and then obviously the loss of the snp mp who lost her seat ultimately by breaking coronavirus rules. but the snp is also benefiting from a lot of tactical voting, snp is also benefiting from a lot of tacticalvoting, but snp is also benefiting from a lot of tactical voting, but now we are seeing a lot of conservative voters coming towards the party that is most likely to keep the snp at bay because scottish independence is still a huge fear for so because scottish independence is still a huge fearfor so many people here in scotland, with the population more or less divided 50-50. a lot of population more or less divided 50—50. a lot of different forces at play making a perfect storm against the snp. . ., ,., _, ., the snp. jason, while you are talkin: , the snp. jason, while you are talking. we — the snp. jason, while you are talking, we are _ the snp. jason, while you are talking, we are also _ the snp. jason, while you are | talking, we are also reminding the snp. jason, while you are i talking, we are also reminding our audience that we are looking at this stage, waiting for the new rutherglen mp michael shanks and also the labour leader sir keir starmer who will be arriving here to give a speech. there's a number of people clapping which means they may be heading to the stage. we will bring you that as soon as we know that when they are taking to the stage. jason, do you think there is a concern that labour will be reading too much into this. of course, a by—election and they only have two seats. they've doubled the number of seats but it's only from one to two. i number of seats but it's only from one to two-— one to two. i think you are absolutely _ one to two. i think you are absolutely right. _ one to two. i think you are absolutely right. when i one to two. i think you are | absolutely right. when you one to two. i think you are i absolutely right. when you look one to two. i think you are - absolutely right. when you look at the vote share, it's very impressive, it's helpfulfor where impressive, it's helpful for where the impressive, it's helpfulfor where the party stands because it's been much more neck and neck with the snp in recent months. so i think circumstances combine to bring about that result. i think i would imagine talking to strategists within the party that labour are possibly looking at winning more like 20 seats, in scotland in the next general election. i wouldn't read too much into the vote share. it is a big step forward and will really help sir keir starmer on his way to the road to downing street but in the road to downing street but in the past, labour have counted on getting 50 seats or more. 20 will be a big help but it's still a big mountain to climb.- a big help but it's still a big mountain to climb. jason, we will t to mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come _ mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come back _ mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come back to _ mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come back to you _ mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come back to you but i mountain to climb. jason, we will try to come back to you but we i mountain to climb. jason, we will. try to come back to you but we can see that sir keir starmer has taken to the stage so we will cross live now to rutherglen to listen to some of those speeches and introductions. jackie and i are going to tell you about— jackie and i are going to tell you about the — jackie and i are going to tell you about the campaign in numbers, aren't— about the campaign in numbers, aren't we — about the campaign in numbers, aren't we, jackie? we about the campaign in numbers, aren't we, jackie?— about the campaign in numbers, aren't we, jackie? we are, indeed. 30 parliamentary _ aren't we, jackie? we are, indeed. 30 parliamentary days _ aren't we, jackie? we are, indeed. 30 parliamentary days suspended. | 30 parliamentary days suspended. 1400 volunteers. applause 90,000 people i've spoken to. leaflets delivered. applause you'll know the answer to this one. zero—hours contracts. social media impressions? hundreds of thousands. votes _ impressions? hundreds of thousands. votes cast. _ impressions? hundreds of thousands. votes cast, 30,477. labour votes, 17,000... _ votes cast, 30,477. labour votes, 17,000... againjackie, labourvotes drowned out by applause i have to say, not just a i have to say, notjust a swing, a play _ i have to say, notjust a swing, a play park — i have to say, not 'ust a swing, a play park.— play park. number of pro'ected seats? 42 i play park. number of pro'ected seats? 42 according i play park. number of pro'ected seats? 42 according to i play park. number of projected l seats? 42 according to professor john curtice _ seats? 42 according to professor john curtice but _ seats? 42 according to professor john curtice but we _ seats? 42 according to professor john curtice but we are - seats? 42 according to professor john curtice but we are not i john curtice but we are not complacent. john curtice but we are not complacent-— john curtice but we are not comlacent. . . .. ., 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