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their president luiz ruby alice is present at that meeting after he kissed jenni hermoso on the lips, she says she did not consent to it. this was after spain's women it won the world cup. translation: that was him on friday saying he is not quitting, on saturday things escalated, ., not quitting, on saturday things escalated, . , , , escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on — escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, _ escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, 11 _ escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, 11 members l escalated, with fifa suspending him| and also on saturday, 11 members of the coaching staff of the spain women's football team quit. now the spanish federation have announced that an internal investigation into sexual violence has been launched and also, just the last couple of hours, a spanish news agency says that the mother of luis rubiales has started a hunger strike over the witch—hunt her son is suffering. we go live to guy hedgecoe, in madrid. we are expecting this meeting the next few hours? the we are expecting this meeting the next few hours?— next few hours? the federation is auoin to next few hours? the federation is going to meet _ next few hours? the federation is going to meet later— next few hours? the federation is going to meet later this _ next few hours? the federation is| going to meet later this afternoon, an extraordinary urgent meeting that called it to specifically discuss this crisis. mr ruby alice himself will not take part in that because he has been suspended by fifa. the regional football heads from around the country are going to take part. that meeting is expected to give us an attire regard it the federation's position on this matter, given that last friday, when mr ruby alice refused to resign, he appeared to have quite a bit support still within the federation but things have changed so much since then that it looks as if that support could be disappearing. so we might find out more about that later today. i am outside the national sports tribunal, which is an independent body which the government has asked to take disciplinary action against mr ruby alice. they are meeting right now to discuss whether to take disciplinary action against him and the first action might be to suspend him. �* , ., ., ., ., him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of this _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of this throughout spain? it’s wider reaction of this throughout sain? �* , . wider reaction of this throughout sain? �*, .,. ,, wider reaction of this throughout sain? ,, . wider reaction of this throughout sain? �*, w ,, . ., spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond _ spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the — spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football _ spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football world - spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football world or. spain? it's a crisis which has gone i way beyond the football world or the sports world. you mention the coaching staff of the world cup winning squad, they have resigned in protest at mr rubiales's behaviour. the world cup squad themselves, a total of around 18 female professional players are boycotting the national team saying they won't represent their country until mr rubiales has gone. there are also being a male team is protesting as well, giving displays of support for itjenni hermoso, the player at the centre of the storm. government and a certain colour for his centre of the storm. government and a certain colourfor his resignation in a broader spanish society come the social level, there seems to be a lot of support out there forjenni hermoso at the moment.- a lot of support out there forjenni hermoso at the moment. thank you, 'ust few hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before that _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before that meeting i just few hours before that meeting gets under way. in england and wales, police forces say they've committed to pursuing all reasonable lines of inquiry in an effort to solve more crimes. the government says it wants to make it clear there is no such thing as a minor crime, with a clampdown focussing on offences like car theft and shoplifting. our home editor mark easton reports. smart doorbells, dashcams, mobile phones and the power of google mean more crime victims believe they've obtained good evidence to identify the culprit. but there's been rising frustration that officers are not going after offenders of lower level crime such as shoplifting, vandalism and theft. now the home office says it's got agreement from police chiefs that they will pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry if a perpetrator could be apprehended. since 2015, forces have had to say how many of the offences they record result in someone being charged. back then it was 16%, but now it's just under 6%. political pressure to improve that number is coming from all sides. i think the key is in the use of the word reasonable. now, what's reasonable for one force won't necessarily be reasonable for another, given the types of crime that they're investigating. and it's absolutely right that police will always base it on threat, harm and risk. but certainly in my own force and otherforces, i do think that there are times when we should be investigating further and it's absolutely reasonable and the public and the government are right to expect us to do so. but police chiefs point out there are reasons for the fall in detections. although overall crime is at historically low levels, improved recording of offences means their caseload is rising and more of the crimes being reported are complex offences to investigate, notably rape and abuse cases. on the one hand, this does sound like a no brainer. anybody who's had their car stolen or their phone stolen wants the police to pursue every line of inquiry. at the same time, we also know that, for example, rape and sexual assault, the prosecution and conviction rate for those are incredibly low. we have a tsunami of male sexual violence towards women and girls as it is. if the police are being told you've just got to put even more resources into tackling, say, carand phone crime, that means there's going to be less time and less focus on those really serious violent offences that quite rightly the public are concerned about. so what does reasonable mean? that's the question which lies behind today's announcement. some officers might ask if it would be reasonable to downgrade a complex sexual abuse case to pursue more shoplifters. france is to ban students from wearing a type of muslim dress, called an abaya, in state—run schools from the beginning of september. there have been months of debate over whether the loose—fitting, full—length robe should be allowed in schools, where the wearing of headscarves is already banned. the abaya covers the whole body except the head and can be worn with a head covering such as the hijab or the niqab. the french education minister gabriel attal gave a press conference earlier today where he discussed the ban and called for unity. translation: we know that our school is constantly being tested. _ in recent months, there's been an considerable increase in attacks on secularism. particularly with the wearing of religious dress, such as abayas or camis, which have appeared or taken root in certain schools. the firmness of the response in schools is being put to the test by these new phenomena none. in the face of occasional blows, attacks and attempts at destabilisation, we must and will stand united. standing together means being clear. the abaya has no place in our schools, and neither do religious symbols. let's talk to our reporter yasmin khatun dewan yasmin. what can we expect the response to this to be? at we what can we expect the response to this to be? a— this to be? at we have already seen from equalities _ this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups _ this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups and - this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups and activists| from equalities groups and activists that have raised concerns for quality reasons and women's rights as with previous an ounce on the hijab and burkini bands we saw protests notjust in france to cash in major cities around the world. a few years ago there were a number of protests in london, berlin. we are likely to see more of that. but in regards to even with the process and with concerns raised by these groups, none of this has so far changed the position of the french authorities in importing that such bans and penalties. we have also heard about the domino effect, this is something raised by various human rights groups that say measures such as these can lead to a domino effect for the women and girls involved. so, women and girls might end up leaving at state schools in the situation are going to private school or delaying certain measures to take on certain types of work. so leaving an institution where they are not able to dress in accordance with their faith and their wishes. and also interesting the specific instance of the first month to see how it might be enforced, because of how it might be enforced, because of how indistinguishable the abaya can be. it could be a maxi dress picked up be. it could be a maxi dress picked up from any high street anywhere in the world but one with religious purpose. the world but one with religious --urose. . ~' , ., the world but one with religious --urose. w , ., , ., , purpose. take us through the history ofthe purpose. take us through the history of the bands. — purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a new - purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a new issue i of the bands, this isn't a new issue in france. ., , ., , in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, h in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a t in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a ban _ in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a ban in h in france. no, the first hijab ban came in 2004, a ban in schools, j in france. no, the first hijab ban - came in 2004, a ban in schools, and this abaya ban follows the hijab in niqab bands, on full face covering bans that are been a place for more than a decade now, and also the burkini band. the burkini swimwear which was made to fulfil motegi requirements and many muslim women and many women not of the muslim faith did take it or not seeing it as a more comfortable way of dressing but there is a burkini ban in place a cache that was taken to the high court last year and is still in place and we knew that the french football federation also have a band in place for their players where they cannot wear a hijab and has discussion over that affect the olympics coming up. this is a long—running conversation in france and we will wait to see how this particular one is in force because with the hijab, it is the most elevated aspect of islamic attire, the one that is instantly recognisable, the one that everyone though is the name of, hijab, and thatis though is the name of, hijab, and that is because of bands at been in place in some cities and it is so familiar, you sit in magazines and commonplace, it is spoken about commonly. where the abaya is something very new, people don't really know what it abaya is and you see that in the weight that it's actually warned because of the world, it is worn in different ways. in turkey, it might be worn as a long coat, and other cities more of a flowing item and other places it may be a maxi dress, so it is quite indistinguishable and will be interesting to see how it's implemented and how you get to decide what i abaya actually is when it's simply a long fitting loose garment. it's simply a long fitting loose carment. ., ~' , ., some breaking news into the newsroom, the national air traffic services have confirmed that they are experiencing technical issues hand of applied traffic flow restrictions to maintain safety. what does that mean? air traffic control services are experiencing technical issues which potentially could lead to some flights being delayed. a brief statement from them saying engineers are working to find out and fix the fault. we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause and they didn't provide further information about the cause or the timescale. but we are expecting potential therefore for disruption as a result of that. that breaking news, of the national air traffic services have confirmed they are experiencing technical issues. this comes after a statement released by an airline, loganair, saying there had been a network—wide failure of uk air traffic control set computer systems this morning and this particular airline saying their hope to be able to operate most intro scotland flights on the basis of local coordination and with minimum disruption. if you are flying with us today, check our website. that is presumably advice across the board if you are about to fly today, do check with the airline websites. as we get more updates on that, will bring them to you. in libya, the foreign minister has been suspended for meeting israel's foreign minister. they met in an informal meeting. libya doesn't recognise israel and backs the palestinian cause. after details of this meeting came out, there were protests in libya. we are joined by tom bateman. just tell us about this meeting. this is one meeting and two very different stories. it took place last week in rome. of the israeli foreign minister was there as was the libyan foreign minister. what we don't knows about what was agreed about how this would be publicised, because what happened on sunday night was that the israelis announced the meeting had taken place and called it historic, a first step towards relations between the two countries. israel of the previous years has had four normalisation agreements were four different arab country so it is all being placed in that context. within hours ours was protests broke out in tripoli, in libya, and then the libyan prime minister saying is that the foreign minister was being suspended because he said the meeting was unplanned, a chance encounter but in their view at shouldn't have taken place. the libyans are saying the meeting with the israelis took place under the coordination of italy's prime minister but they said it was nothing agreed plans about this and it put out a pretty stern statement saying there would not be normalisation and it was actually illegal under libyan law with israel. you have as far as the israelis are concerned, the opposition think this is a complete box that should never have been announced and that effectively, the israeli government has taken what the opposition have called an amateur is an irresponsible approach to very sensitive diplomatic meetings. to very sensitive diplomatic meetings-— to very sensitive diplomatic meetinus. , , , ., , meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail— meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around _ meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around this _ meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around this meeting l so much detail around this meeting was released in the first place? the israelis was released in the first place? the israelis say — was released in the first place? the israelis say all _ was released in the first place? tue: israelis say all that was released in the first place? tte: israelis say all that had was released in the first place? tt2 israelis say all that had been agreed with the libyan authorities and the fact that the meeting took place would be publicised. the wording was then from the israeli foreign ministry which describe it in this very historic sense. i think the point is, decent two strategic countries in the middle east, israel has long reported to have unofficial relations with libya, going back to the days of moamer gaddafi, but continuing its current period, where you have very bloody division across libya, un—backed government in tripoli in the west but in the east, a rival administration backed by some gulf powers but not others. israel has long had contacts with greece nation's, it is those, going back to when mossad, its intelligence agency, has kept up formal and quite relations with lots of individuals within different arab powers but the point is they don't talk about it. this meeting obviously took place and there were differences whether or not it was going to be publicised or it may just be the fact that as far as the libyans are concerned, once it was known about and protest were taking place in libya against it, they had to in effect discern it. this place in libya against it, they had to in effect discern it.— to in effect discern it. this will be slightly _ to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair— to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair because - to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair because as l to in effect discern it. this will. be slightly unfair because as you have been talking, a line from reuters which i should stress the bbc have not independently verified as yet, you were talking about the suspension of the foreign minister and writers have reported that the libyan prime minister has sacked the foreign minister over at this meeting. that is according to a libyan government source. ijust wanted your reaction because it is just in the last few minutes, as we have been talking about the suspension, it now appears that suspension, it now appears that suspension is a sacking of. t suspension, it now appears that suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to be _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to be expected | that was probably to be expected because we knew the libyan prime minister said there would be what they called an administrative investigation. we also had at the same time unconfirmed reports from libyan media that she had left the country and flown to istanbul. that was quickly being denied by internal security within libya, saying she was actually banned from travelling. certainly do language around the way this was being expressed around the treatment of the foreign minister was pretty harsh. verse reports of now a sacking, i think possibly the logical conclusion to all of that. thank you so much. as i mention, we will work on that latest line that there from reuters, that downgrading or grating depending on your perspective of a suspension to a sacking. thank you for that for now. back to the uk, the breaking news of these problems common comic technical issues as to where they are being described, at the national air traffic service. they have confirmed they are experiencing technical issues and have applied " traffic flow restrictions" to maintain safety. so we are going to try and expand on exactly what that means, presumably it means delays to flights if you are off—line right now. in a brief statement is, the said engineers are working to find and fix the fault and we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. plenty of travellers who have been inconvenienced will not be too big. as to the source of the disruption, we don't know, they did not provide any information about the timescale or how this will impact flights and go on for and did not give any reasonable cause either, other than this technical issues, which is the quite. but the national air traffic services absolutely vital to keeping planes in the air and flowing around the country, as they should. so, any technical issues can pretty detrimental to the normal operations of airports and aeroplanes in the uk. the independent travel writer simon coulter is standing by for us and i think we can cross to him now. what do we know so far? we have just lost simon called her. i do not want to say that the technical issues here but will try him straightaway. simon, technical issues with air traffic control and with our line as well but will keep going. just tell us what we know? the well but will keep going. just tell us what we know?— well but will keep going. just tell us what we know? the national air traffic service _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all the _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all the systems | traffic service run all the systems across uk airspace. it appears that their entire system, the digital air traffic control system, has failed. they are getting a aircraft down safely but they are drastically reducing the flow rate, the rate at which aircraft can land football. bearin which aircraft can land football. bear in mind that london heathrow is the busiest airport in the world and london gatwick is the busiest single runway airport in the world. this is one of the busiest days of the year, hundreds of thousands of people coming back from various parts of the world to get to, after their holidays in the mediterranean and beyond, and unfortunately, we are seeing the system failure. there is no certainty about when it is going to be fixed. this is extremely concerning, of course. planes are being held on the ground at various european departure points. there is no clarity about when they might be able to get in and land rugby and departure is also being held from uk airports. given the overstretch in the system even at the best of times, i'm afraid this looks to me as if it is aces going to severe delays and disruption, certainly for the rest of the day, even if the problem is fixed in the next few minutes. but my understanding is that the national air traffic service does not put at this stage what caused the problem or how to fix it, and that is extremely concerning. i need to stress there is no danger to anybody, aircraft will either be landing where they are supposed to with a reduced flow rate or they will be diverted to other airports, rate or they will be diverted to otherairports, quite rate or they will be diverted to other airports, quite possibly in continental europe, places like paris and amsterdam, but with everything working at full tilt, i'm afraid we are at a stage where no—one quite know is how the rest of the day is going to look. i fear there will be a lot of people waking up there will be a lot of people waking up tomorrow morning with the do not want to be because their flights have been severely delayed or indeed cancelled and i fear that the cancellations will be the starting around about now in all the operations rooms trying to figure out what they are going to be doing. simon, you said this is total digital system failure, how unusual is that? we digital system failure, how unusual is that? ~ , , digital system failure, how unusual isthat? ~ , , ., ,, digital system failure, how unusual is that? ~ , , ., , , ., is that? we see this happening at ma be is that? we see this happening at maybe every _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten years, i is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten years, it | is that? we see this happening at. maybe every five or ten years, it is extremely rare. there are of course a back up systems upon back up systems which are designed to make sure that there are fail—safe that you shouldn't have a shutdown like this. already, the speculation online that this is happening because of some kind of pact, i have no evidence of that, it may simply be one of those systems vary as we have seen another points of aviation, in particular people will be reminded of british airways it failures. at the moment, the airlines are not responsible for this, they are having to deal with the consequences and that could cost them millions of pounds because they are responsible for looking after passengers whatever the cause of the long delay or cancellation with meals and hotel rooms if necessary. ijust meals and hotel rooms if necessary. i just hope, meals and hotel rooms if necessary. ijust hope, like everybody else, that it gets fixed. if you are meanwhile watching this at an airport or you have a flight but later on, hope for the best but be prepared for delay and disruption. a let's go back to the issue you are talking about the flow rate because thatis talking about the flow rate because that is crucial here. if you are currently in the air, or due to take off from somewhere else, there could be delays and then the diversions. and what about for people who are waiting or about to fly off, why would first like to be potentially cancelled? tt would first like to be potentially cancelled? , ., ., ., ., cancelled? if you have a general aerospace _ cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems _ cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems failure - cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems failure than l cancelled? if you have a general. aerospace systems failure than the last thing you want to do is to add to the problem. to departing flights are being held on the ground both in european places of origin and indeed in the uk because effectively, you want to have as few aircraft as possible to deal with. the flow rate coming in is something that has long been established worth every minute orso been established worth every minute or so coming into heathrow, it's very, very difficult and complex game or three—dimensional chess, basically. even at the best of times, there is very, very little resilience in the system simply because heathrow is full, gatwick is full and bank holiday monday, that is when everybody is wanting to be flying and unfortunately, at this rate, it looks as though there will be many people who will not reach their destination. let me stress again that there is no danger, no—one will be put at risk because of this. i dare say hundreds of thousands of people could find they are extremely inconvenienced. thank ou for are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again the _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again the safety because people we want in, if there is no risk to safety, if this digital air traffic control system has failed and flights are in the air and due to come into land, how are they being located in? how is it working for those people planting aeroplanes right now is the system is down? , ., , ., is down? there will be many more exert is down? there will be many more expert people _ is down? there will be many more expert people than _ is down? there will be many more expert people than me! _ is down? there will be many more expert people than me! but - is down? there will be many more expert people than me! but my i expert people than me! but my understanding is you simply go to the reliable old analogue systems and those aircraft will be in touch with controllers, many of them who are in the region of the airport anyway with a tea timer controllers and they will be organised to land rugby and the planes are coming in. —— with the tower controllers. but it cannot happen at the same boat but rate as normal. you can see that delays built up very quickly and unfortunately, even across the rest of europe at the moment, air traffic control is at full stretch so once you get a little bit of disruption into the system, itjust reverberates right across europe and that will have many knock—on effects and if planes are diverted, pilots, plains, of passengers at a position, very difficult to recover that with any speed. very difficult to recover that with any speed-— very difficult to recover that with an seed. ,, ., ., ., i. any speed. simon, great to get your exertise any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come _ any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come _ any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come thank - any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come thank you - any speed. simon, great to get your| expertise come come thank you very much. simon mentioning there it is the flow rate that is the absolutely crucial factor here. that slows down, that is when we get to be delays and cancellations. let's cross to our newsroom now, you had that familiar website behind you can become at times like this. you that familiar website behind you can become at times like this.— become at times like this. you have been talking — become at times like this. you have been talking about _ become at times like this. you have been talking about that _ become at times like this. you have been talking about that right - become at times like this. you have been talking about that right that i been talking about that right that planes can land rugby. a friend of mine is much better involved in the aviation industry than i am and he reckons that normally they can land every 30 seconds and it might be 1.5 minutes now that we are talking about. this is flight writer 24, these yellow planes are all the planes around the united kingdom and i will assume in in on london because that is where most of the planes you would expect are heading for heathrow. the planes are coming in and you can see there is a mass of them there over heathrow airport as i zoom in. the planes landing here and then they go and find somewhere to park so that the passengers can get off. this is where you can see them landing but they are going to be landing as we heard at a lot slower rate and you are also not going to see so many taking of. that is why we have people on the ground waiting, these flights are probably ones waiting to take off on issues at because air traffic control may be using a manual system, they are going to be prioritising those flights that are coming in to land rugby rather than flights that are taking off. so all their efforts will be going on taking in these plain. we have seen this one land rugby here but at the moment there is nothing coming into land rugby straightaway. you can see the mass of planes we have here around heathrow and there will be across all of the country are all these planes building up is to try to land rugby. as we see can see there are probably planes in areas around the country, here if we zoom in on stansted, again, you can see those

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their president luiz ruby alice is present at that meeting after he kissed jenni hermoso on the lips, she says she did not consent to it. this was after spain's women it won the world cup. translation: that was him on friday saying he is not quitting, on saturday things escalated, ., not quitting, on saturday things escalated, . , , , escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on — escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, _ escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, 11 _ escalated, with fifa suspending him and also on saturday, 11 members l escalated, with fifa suspending him| and also on saturday, 11 members of the coaching staff of the spain women's football team quit. now the spanish federation have announced that an internal investigation into sexual violence has been launched and also, just the last couple of hours, a spanish news agency says that the mother of luis rubiales has started a hunger strike over the witch—hunt her son is suffering. we go live to guy hedgecoe, in madrid. we are expecting this meeting the next few hours? the we are expecting this meeting the next few hours?— next few hours? the federation is auoin to next few hours? the federation is going to meet _ next few hours? the federation is going to meet later— next few hours? the federation is going to meet later this _ next few hours? the federation is| going to meet later this afternoon, an extraordinary urgent meeting that called it to specifically discuss this crisis. mr ruby alice himself will not take part in that because he has been suspended by fifa. the regional football heads from around the country are going to take part. that meeting is expected to give us an attire regard it the federation's position on this matter, given that last friday, when mr ruby alice refused to resign, he appeared to have quite a bit support still within the federation but things have changed so much since then that it looks as if that support could be disappearing. so we might find out more about that later today. i am outside the national sports tribunal, which is an independent body which the government has asked to take disciplinary action against mr ruby alice. they are meeting right now to discuss whether to take disciplinary action against him and the first action might be to suspend him. �* , ., ., ., ., him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of this _ him. and give us a flavour to the wider reaction of this throughout spain? it’s wider reaction of this throughout sain? �* , . wider reaction of this throughout sain? �*, .,. ,, wider reaction of this throughout sain? ,, . wider reaction of this throughout sain? �*, w ,, . ., spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond _ spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the — spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football _ spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football world - spain? it's a crisis which has gone way beyond the football world or. spain? it's a crisis which has gone i way beyond the football world or the sports world. you mention the coaching staff of the world cup winning squad, they have resigned in protest at mr rubiales's behaviour. the world cup squad themselves, a total of around 18 female professional players are boycotting the national team saying they won't represent their country until mr rubiales has gone. there are also being a male team is protesting as well, giving displays of support for itjenni hermoso, the player at the centre of the storm. government and a certain colour for his centre of the storm. government and a certain colourfor his resignation in a broader spanish society come the social level, there seems to be a lot of support out there forjenni hermoso at the moment.- a lot of support out there forjenni hermoso at the moment. thank you, 'ust few hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before that _ hermoso at the moment. thank you, just few hours before that meeting i just few hours before that meeting gets under way. in england and wales, police forces say they've committed to pursuing all reasonable lines of inquiry in an effort to solve more crimes. the government says it wants to make it clear there is no such thing as a minor crime, with a clampdown focussing on offences like car theft and shoplifting. our home editor mark easton reports. smart doorbells, dashcams, mobile phones and the power of google mean more crime victims believe they've obtained good evidence to identify the culprit. but there's been rising frustration that officers are not going after offenders of lower level crime such as shoplifting, vandalism and theft. now the home office says it's got agreement from police chiefs that they will pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry if a perpetrator could be apprehended. since 2015, forces have had to say how many of the offences they record result in someone being charged. back then it was 16%, but now it's just under 6%. political pressure to improve that number is coming from all sides. i think the key is in the use of the word reasonable. now, what's reasonable for one force won't necessarily be reasonable for another, given the types of crime that they're investigating. and it's absolutely right that police will always base it on threat, harm and risk. but certainly in my own force and otherforces, i do think that there are times when we should be investigating further and it's absolutely reasonable and the public and the government are right to expect us to do so. but police chiefs point out there are reasons for the fall in detections. although overall crime is at historically low levels, improved recording of offences means their caseload is rising and more of the crimes being reported are complex offences to investigate, notably rape and abuse cases. on the one hand, this does sound like a no brainer. anybody who's had their car stolen or their phone stolen wants the police to pursue every line of inquiry. at the same time, we also know that, for example, rape and sexual assault, the prosecution and conviction rate for those are incredibly low. we have a tsunami of male sexual violence towards women and girls as it is. if the police are being told you've just got to put even more resources into tackling, say, carand phone crime, that means there's going to be less time and less focus on those really serious violent offences that quite rightly the public are concerned about. so what does reasonable mean? that's the question which lies behind today's announcement. some officers might ask if it would be reasonable to downgrade a complex sexual abuse case to pursue more shoplifters. france is to ban students from wearing a type of muslim dress, called an abaya, in state—run schools from the beginning of september. there have been months of debate over whether the loose—fitting, full—length robe should be allowed in schools, where the wearing of headscarves is already banned. the abaya covers the whole body except the head and can be worn with a head covering such as the hijab or the niqab. the french education minister gabriel attal gave a press conference earlier today where he discussed the ban and called for unity. translation: we know that our school is constantly being tested. _ in recent months, there's been an considerable increase in attacks on secularism. particularly with the wearing of religious dress, such as abayas or camis, which have appeared or taken root in certain schools. the firmness of the response in schools is being put to the test by these new phenomena none. in the face of occasional blows, attacks and attempts at destabilisation, we must and will stand united. standing together means being clear. the abaya has no place in our schools, and neither do religious symbols. let's talk to our reporter yasmin khatun dewan yasmin. what can we expect the response to this to be? at we what can we expect the response to this to be? a— this to be? at we have already seen from equalities _ this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups _ this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups and - this to be? at we have already seen from equalities groups and activists| from equalities groups and activists that have raised concerns for quality reasons and women's rights as with previous an ounce on the hijab and burkini bands we saw protests notjust in france to cash in major cities around the world. a few years ago there were a number of protests in london, berlin. we are likely to see more of that. but in regards to even with the process and with concerns raised by these groups, none of this has so far changed the position of the french authorities in importing that such bans and penalties. we have also heard about the domino effect, this is something raised by various human rights groups that say measures such as these can lead to a domino effect for the women and girls involved. so, women and girls might end up leaving at state schools in the situation are going to private school or delaying certain measures to take on certain types of work. so leaving an institution where they are not able to dress in accordance with their faith and their wishes. and also interesting the specific instance of the first month to see how it might be enforced, because of how it might be enforced, because of how indistinguishable the abaya can be. it could be a maxi dress picked up be. it could be a maxi dress picked up from any high street anywhere in the world but one with religious purpose. the world but one with religious --urose. . ~' , ., the world but one with religious --urose. w , ., , ., , purpose. take us through the history ofthe purpose. take us through the history of the bands. — purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a _ purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a new - purpose. take us through the history of the bands, this isn't a new issue i of the bands, this isn't a new issue in france. ., , ., , in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, h in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a t in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a ban _ in france. no, the first hi'ab ban came in 2004, a ban in h in france. no, the first hijab ban came in 2004, a ban in schools, j in france. no, the first hijab ban - came in 2004, a ban in schools, and this abaya ban follows the hijab in niqab bands, on full face covering bans that are been a place for more than a decade now, and also the burkini band. the burkini swimwear which was made to fulfil motegi requirements and many muslim women and many women not of the muslim faith did take it or not seeing it as a more comfortable way of dressing but there is a burkini ban in place a cache that was taken to the high court last year and is still in place and we knew that the french football federation also have a band in place for their players where they cannot wear a hijab and has discussion over that affect the olympics coming up. this is a long—running conversation in france and we will wait to see how this particular one is in force because with the hijab, it is the most elevated aspect of islamic attire, the one that is instantly recognisable, the one that everyone though is the name of, hijab, and thatis though is the name of, hijab, and that is because of bands at been in place in some cities and it is so familiar, you sit in magazines and commonplace, it is spoken about commonly. where the abaya is something very new, people don't really know what it abaya is and you see that in the weight that it's actually warned because of the world, it is worn in different ways. in turkey, it might be worn as a long coat, and other cities more of a flowing item and other places it may be a maxi dress, so it is quite indistinguishable and will be interesting to see how it's implemented and how you get to decide what i abaya actually is when it's simply a long fitting loose garment. it's simply a long fitting loose carment. ., ~' , ., some breaking news into the newsroom, the national air traffic services have confirmed that they are experiencing technical issues hand of applied traffic flow restrictions to maintain safety. what does that mean? air traffic control services are experiencing technical issues which potentially could lead to some flights being delayed. a brief statement from them saying engineers are working to find out and fix the fault. we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause and they didn't provide further information about the cause or the timescale. but we are expecting potential therefore for disruption as a result of that. that breaking news, of the national air traffic services have confirmed they are experiencing technical issues. this comes after a statement released by an airline, loganair, saying there had been a network—wide failure of uk air traffic control set computer systems this morning and this particular airline saying their hope to be able to operate most intro scotland flights on the basis of local coordination and with minimum disruption. if you are flying with us today, check our website. that is presumably advice across the board if you are about to fly today, do check with the airline websites. as we get more updates on that, will bring them to you. in libya, the foreign minister has been suspended for meeting israel's foreign minister. they met in an informal meeting. libya doesn't recognise israel and backs the palestinian cause. after details of this meeting came out, there were protests in libya. we are joined by tom bateman. just tell us about this meeting. this is one meeting and two very different stories. it took place last week in rome. of the israeli foreign minister was there as was the libyan foreign minister. what we don't knows about what was agreed about how this would be publicised, because what happened on sunday night was that the israelis announced the meeting had taken place and called it historic, a first step towards relations between the two countries. israel of the previous years has had four normalisation agreements were four different arab country so it is all being placed in that context. within hours ours was protests broke out in tripoli, in libya, and then the libyan prime minister saying is that the foreign minister was being suspended because he said the meeting was unplanned, a chance encounter but in their view at shouldn't have taken place. the libyans are saying the meeting with the israelis took place under the coordination of italy's prime minister but they said it was nothing agreed plans about this and it put out a pretty stern statement saying there would not be normalisation and it was actually illegal under libyan law with israel. you have as far as the israelis are concerned, the opposition think this is a complete box that should never have been announced and that effectively, the israeli government has taken what the opposition have called an amateur is an irresponsible approach to very sensitive diplomatic meetings. to very sensitive diplomatic meetings-— to very sensitive diplomatic meetinus. , , , ., , meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail— meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around _ meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around this _ meetings. give us a sense about why so much detail around this meeting l so much detail around this meeting was released in the first place? the israelis was released in the first place? the israelis say — was released in the first place? the israelis say all _ was released in the first place? tue: israelis say all that was released in the first place? tte: israelis say all that had was released in the first place? tt2 israelis say all that had been agreed with the libyan authorities and the fact that the meeting took place would be publicised. the wording was then from the israeli foreign ministry which describe it in this very historic sense. i think the point is, decent two strategic countries in the middle east, israel has long reported to have unofficial relations with libya, going back to the days of moamer gaddafi, but continuing its current period, where you have very bloody division across libya, un—backed government in tripoli in the west but in the east, a rival administration backed by some gulf powers but not others. israel has long had contacts with greece nation's, it is those, going back to when mossad, its intelligence agency, has kept up formal and quite relations with lots of individuals within different arab powers but the point is they don't talk about it. this meeting obviously took place and there were differences whether or not it was going to be publicised or it may just be the fact that as far as the libyans are concerned, once it was known about and protest were taking place in libya against it, they had to in effect discern it. this place in libya against it, they had to in effect discern it.— to in effect discern it. this will be slightly _ to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair— to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair because - to in effect discern it. this will be slightly unfair because as l to in effect discern it. this will. be slightly unfair because as you have been talking, a line from reuters which i should stress the bbc have not independently verified as yet, you were talking about the suspension of the foreign minister and writers have reported that the libyan prime minister has sacked the foreign minister over at this meeting. that is according to a libyan government source. ijust wanted your reaction because it is just in the last few minutes, as we have been talking about the suspension, it now appears that suspension, it now appears that suspension is a sacking of. t suspension, it now appears that suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to be _ suspension is a sacking of. i think that was probably to be expected | that was probably to be expected because we knew the libyan prime minister said there would be what they called an administrative investigation. we also had at the same time unconfirmed reports from libyan media that she had left the country and flown to istanbul. that was quickly being denied by internal security within libya, saying she was actually banned from travelling. certainly do language around the way this was being expressed around the treatment of the foreign minister was pretty harsh. verse reports of now a sacking, i think possibly the logical conclusion to all of that. thank you so much. as i mention, we will work on that latest line that there from reuters, that downgrading or grating depending on your perspective of a suspension to a sacking. thank you for that for now. back to the uk, the breaking news of these problems common comic technical issues as to where they are being described, at the national air traffic service. they have confirmed they are experiencing technical issues and have applied " traffic flow restrictions" to maintain safety. so we are going to try and expand on exactly what that means, presumably it means delays to flights if you are off—line right now. in a brief statement is, the said engineers are working to find and fix the fault and we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. plenty of travellers who have been inconvenienced will not be too big. as to the source of the disruption, we don't know, they did not provide any information about the timescale or how this will impact flights and go on for and did not give any reasonable cause either, other than this technical issues, which is the quite. but the national air traffic services absolutely vital to keeping planes in the air and flowing around the country, as they should. so, any technical issues can pretty detrimental to the normal operations of airports and aeroplanes in the uk. the independent travel writer simon coulter is standing by for us and i think we can cross to him now. what do we know so far? we have just lost simon called her. i do not want to say that the technical issues here but will try him straightaway. simon, technical issues with air traffic control and with our line as well but will keep going. just tell us what we know? the well but will keep going. just tell us what we know?— well but will keep going. just tell us what we know? the national air traffic service _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all the _ us what we know? the national air traffic service run all the systems | traffic service run all the systems across uk airspace. it appears that their entire system, the digital air traffic control system, has failed. they are getting a aircraft down safely but they are drastically reducing the flow rate, the rate at which aircraft can land football. bearin which aircraft can land football. bear in mind that london heathrow is the busiest airport in the world and london gatwick is the busiest single runway airport in the world. this is one of the busiest days of the year, hundreds of thousands of people coming back from various parts of the world to get to, after their holidays in the mediterranean and beyond, and unfortunately, we are seeing the system failure. there is no certainty about when it is going to be fixed. this is extremely concerning, of course. planes are being held on the ground at various european departure points. there is no clarity about when they might be able to get in and land rugby and departure is also being held from uk airports. given the overstretch in the system even at the best of times, i'm afraid this looks to me as if it is aces going to severe delays and disruption, certainly for the rest of the day, even if the problem is fixed in the next few minutes. but my understanding is that the national air traffic service does not put at this stage what caused the problem or how to fix it, and that is extremely concerning. i need to stress there is no danger to anybody, aircraft will either be landing where they are supposed to with a reduced flow rate or they will be diverted to other airports, rate or they will be diverted to otherairports, quite rate or they will be diverted to other airports, quite possibly in continental europe, places like paris and amsterdam, but with everything working at full tilt, i'm afraid we are at a stage where no—one quite know is how the rest of the day is going to look. i fear there will be a lot of people waking up there will be a lot of people waking up tomorrow morning with the do not want to be because their flights have been severely delayed or indeed cancelled and i fear that the cancellations will be the starting around about now in all the operations rooms trying to figure out what they are going to be doing. simon, you said this is total digital system failure, how unusual is that? we digital system failure, how unusual is that? ~ , , digital system failure, how unusual isthat? ~ , , ., ,, digital system failure, how unusual is that? ~ , , ., , , ., is that? we see this happening at ma be is that? we see this happening at maybe every _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten _ is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten years, i is that? we see this happening at maybe every five or ten years, it | is that? we see this happening at. maybe every five or ten years, it is extremely rare. there are of course a back up systems upon back up systems which are designed to make sure that there are fail—safe that you shouldn't have a shutdown like this. already, the speculation online that this is happening because of some kind of pact, i have no evidence of that, it may simply be one of those systems vary as we have seen another points of aviation, in particular people will be reminded of british airways it failures. at the moment, the airlines are not responsible for this, they are having to deal with the consequences and that could cost them millions of pounds because they are responsible for looking after passengers whatever the cause of the long delay or cancellation with meals and hotel rooms if necessary. ijust meals and hotel rooms if necessary. i just hope, meals and hotel rooms if necessary. ijust hope, like everybody else, that it gets fixed. if you are meanwhile watching this at an airport or you have a flight but later on, hope for the best but be prepared for delay and disruption. a let's go back to the issue you are talking about the flow rate because thatis talking about the flow rate because that is crucial here. if you are currently in the air, or due to take off from somewhere else, there could be delays and then the diversions. and what about for people who are waiting or about to fly off, why would first like to be potentially cancelled? tt would first like to be potentially cancelled? , ., ., ., ., cancelled? if you have a general aerospace _ cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems _ cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems failure - cancelled? if you have a general aerospace systems failure than l cancelled? if you have a general. aerospace systems failure than the last thing you want to do is to add to the problem. to departing flights are being held on the ground both in european places of origin and indeed in the uk because effectively, you want to have as few aircraft as possible to deal with. the flow rate coming in is something that has long been established worth every minute orso been established worth every minute or so coming into heathrow, it's very, very difficult and complex game or three—dimensional chess, basically. even at the best of times, there is very, very little resilience in the system simply because heathrow is full, gatwick is full and bank holiday monday, that is when everybody is wanting to be flying and unfortunately, at this rate, it looks as though there will be many people who will not reach their destination. let me stress again that there is no danger, no—one will be put at risk because of this. i dare say hundreds of thousands of people could find they are extremely inconvenienced. thank ou for are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again the _ are extremely inconvenienced. thank you for stressing again the safety because people we want in, if there is no risk to safety, if this digital air traffic control system has failed and flights are in the air and due to come into land, how are they being located in? how is it working for those people planting aeroplanes right now is the system is down? , ., , ., is down? there will be many more exert is down? there will be many more expert people _ is down? there will be many more expert people than _ is down? there will be many more expert people than me! _ is down? there will be many more expert people than me! but - is down? there will be many more expert people than me! but my i expert people than me! but my understanding is you simply go to the reliable old analogue systems and those aircraft will be in touch with controllers, many of them who are in the region of the airport anyway with a tea timer controllers and they will be organised to land rugby and the planes are coming in. —— with the tower controllers. but it cannot happen at the same boat but rate as normal. you can see that delays built up very quickly and unfortunately, even across the rest of europe at the moment, air traffic control is at full stretch so once you get a little bit of disruption into the system, itjust reverberates right across europe and that will have many knock—on effects and if planes are diverted, pilots, plains, of passengers at a position, very difficult to recover that with any speed. very difficult to recover that with any speed-— very difficult to recover that with an seed. ,, ., ., ., i. any speed. simon, great to get your exertise any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come _ any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come _ any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come thank - any speed. simon, great to get your expertise come come thank you - any speed. simon, great to get your| expertise come come thank you very much. simon mentioning there it is the flow rate that is the absolutely crucial factor here. that slows down, that is when we get to be delays and cancellations. let's cross to our newsroom now, you had that familiar website behind you can become at times like this. you that familiar website behind you can become at times like this.— become at times like this. you have been talking — become at times like this. you have been talking about _ become at times like this. you have been talking about that _ become at times like this. you have been talking about that right - become at times like this. you have been talking about that right that i been talking about that right that planes can land rugby. a friend of mine is much better involved in the aviation industry than i am and he reckons that normally they can land every 30 seconds and it might be 1.5 minutes now that we are talking about. this is flight writer 24, these yellow planes are all the planes around the united kingdom and i will assume in in on london because that is where most of the planes you would expect are heading for heathrow. the planes are coming in and you can see there is a mass of them there over heathrow airport as i zoom in. the planes landing here and then they go and find somewhere to park so that the passengers can get off. this is where you can see them landing but they are going to be landing as we heard at a lot slower rate and you are also not going to see so many taking of. that is why we have people on the ground waiting, these flights are probably ones waiting to take off on issues at because air traffic control may be using a manual system, they are going to be prioritising those flights that are coming in to land rugby rather than flights that are taking off. so all their efforts will be going on taking in these plain. we have seen this one land rugby here but at the moment there is nothing coming into land rugby straightaway. you can see the mass of planes we have here around heathrow and there will be across all of the country are all these planes building up is to try to land rugby. as we see can see there are probably planes in areas around the country, here if we zoom in on stansted, again, you can see those

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