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also tonight, prigozhin is presumed dead, the wagner mercenaries are marked men, but is the power base around putin secure? or has the blood—letting onlyjust begun? and sealed with a kiss — the president of the spanish fa is under investigation over a series of inappropriate celebrations at the women's world cup. good evening. we will have plenty through the night on donald trump's appearance in georgia, but while we wait for those pictures, we are going to get start tonight with events in russia, where the leadership of the wagner mercenary group has been "decapitated". all ten bodies have now been recovered from the crash site which stretches over a mile, but they haven't been formally identified. one of them we are told is the body of yevgeny prigozhin. the speculation is it is highly likely the russia's fsb intelligence service orchestrated the plane crash, maybe on the direct orders of vladimir putin. but if it was at his direction, you would get no sense of that from the statement he put out a little earlier. the president said prigozhin was a "talented businessman", "someone i have known he said since the 1990s". he sent his condolences to the families of everyone killed and promised to look at whatever the investigators turn up. on the wagner group's telegram channel, threats have been made, and there are some reports security has been increased in rostov on don, the city that briefly seized by the wagner group during its mutiny injune and also in the belgorod region. here is our russia editor steve rosenberg. in a field 60 miles from moscow, the wreckage of a plane, the private jet on which the russian authorities say yevgeny prigozhin was travelling. an investigation is under way into the cause of this crash. was ita bomb, a missile? was it sabotage? the authorities say all ten people on board were killed, but it's mr prigozhin�*s fate that is centre of attention. for years the kremlin�*s mr fix—it, his mercenary group had fought in ukraine. but two months ago, it mutinied. they took over the city of rostov and moved on towards moscow. it was an unprecedented challenge to the kremlin. so is yevgeny prigozhin�*s reported demise in the plane crash president putin's revenge? today, the kremlin leader broke his silence on the crash. he said he'd known mr prigozhin a long time, since the early 1990s. he called him a man with a difficult fate who'd made mistakes, but who was talented. but president putin has previously called the wagner mutiny a stab in the back and betrayal he cannot abide. if the crash was an act of revenge, then what is the message? this is a clear message to elites. you must be loyal or you must express double loyalty, even. and this is a message to ordinary people. look, you can survive this period, but you must be quiet. there is no need in supporting somebody else. only putin is your president, your autocrat, your person to admire. in other words, don't cross the kremlin. the world of russian politics, though, is a murky one. some here suspect a hoax. there's talk of a second wagner plane that landed safely. but outside wagner offices in st petersburg, there's now a shrine. people here are in mourning for a mercenary chief they believe has been killed. steve rosenberg, bbc news. our russia editor steve rosenberg is visiting london and i'm pleased to say he is here with us in the studio. the statement seemed rather abstract and devoid of what had gone on in the last two months. what do you make of it?— you make of it? vladimir putin's statement. _ you make of it? vladimir putin's statement, condolences - you make of it? vladimir putin's statement, condolences and - statement, condolences and complements to yevgeny prigozhin, talented man, talented businessman, someone who would try to achieve things for himself and for the common cause, so lots of compliments. that does not change the fact, i think, that many people if not most people in russia and certainly abroad will conclude or have concluded that the russian authorities were behind what happened to the plane. why is that? well, we know what vladimir putin has said for years now about treachery. he said treachery is the one thing he cannot forgive, and he made it clear two months ago that he viewed the perpetrators of the wagoner mutiny as traders. therefore, and he said there will be punished, the fact they were not punished, the fact they were not punished immediately has nothing to do with this. the plane crash happened to months exactly since the start of the mutiny. therefore many people will suspect that the authorities were behind this. min; people will suspect that the authorities were behind this. why do ou think authorities were behind this. why do you think you — authorities were behind this. why do you think you waited _ authorities were behind this. why do you think you waited two _ authorities were behind this. why do you think you waited two months - authorities were behind this. why do you think you waited two months if. you think you waited two months if indeed he was involved in it? president putin is on the kind of person who acts immediately. he waits. he buys his time. it's the same when he sacked officials, fires officials. does not always happen immediately. he waits. now i'm not same 100% of the authorities did this, right? i have no proof, no evidence. and to an extent, whoever was behind this, whatever was the cause of this plane to crash, i think the kremlin will be quite pleased. people are talking about president putin as the man who may be getting revenge here because it sends a very strong message to anyone else in russia who may be planning some kind of armed insurrection or some coup. this is a message to wagner loyalists. don't cross the kremlin. don't even think about raising arms because it's going to end badly.— going to end badly. there is of course all _ going to end badly. there is of course all sorts _ going to end badly. there is of course all sorts of— going to end badly. there is of course all sorts of regulation l going to end badly. there is of - course all sorts of regulation about why this plane came down, and we just heard from a spokesperson for the pentagon who have been looking at it. have a listen to what he said. ., ., ,, ,, , ., said. our initial assessment is that it's likely yevgeny _ said. our initial assessment is that it's likely yevgeny prigozhin - said. our initial assessment is that it's likely yevgeny prigozhin was i it's likely yevgeny prigozhin was kiiied~ _ it's likely yevgeny prigozhin was killed. we are continuing to assess the situation. we don't have any information to indicate right now the press — information to indicate right now the press reporting stating that there _ the press reporting stating that there was some type of surface—to—air missile that took down _ surface—to—air missile that took down a — surface—to—air missile that took down a plane. we assess that information to be inadequate. again, nothing _ information to be inadequate. again, nothing to— information to be inadequate. again, nothing to indicate, no information to suggest— nothing to indicate, no information to suggest that there was a surface—to—air missile, but beyond that, _ surface—to—air missile, but beyond that, i'm _ surface—to—air missile, but beyond that, i'm reallyjust not going to have _ that, i'm reallyjust not going to have any— that, i'm reallyjust not going to have any further information. | have any further information. sense that have any further information. i sense that will fuel further conspiracy theories. perhaps it does not matter, though. perhaps all it really matters is whether yevgeny prigozhin is alive or dead. i really matters is whether yevgeny prigozhin is alive or dead.- prigozhin is alive or dead. i think ou're prigozhin is alive or dead. i think you're right- _ prigozhin is alive or dead. i think you're right. was _ prigozhin is alive or dead. i think you're right. was it _ prigozhin is alive or dead. i think you're right. was it the - prigozhin is alive or dead. i think you're right. was it the bomb? l prigozhin is alive or dead. i think. you're right. was it the bomb? was his sabotage? was admissible? at the end of the day, if if you say yevgeny prigozhin is dead, then that is the end of the story, absolutely. the questions to ask now are does vladimir putin emerged stronger from this? i suspect that he will emerge stronger because two months ago, there were whispers, people were talking about vladimir putin looking weaker in the fact that yevgeny prigozhin was able to launch this mutiny in which several russian servicemen were killed and yet he was not punished, charges dropped against him. and that made the kremlin leader look weak. two months on, well, we hear about the reported the buys of yevgeny prigozhin. and therefore this message i talked about that the criminal will be sending to opponents, i think that initially makes him stronger. steve, i could talk to _ initially makes him stronger. steve, i could talk to you _ initially makes him stronger. steve, i could talk to you on _ initially makes him stronger. steve, i could talk to you on that _ initially makes him stronger. steve, i could talk to you on that but - i could talk to you on that but you are on holiday and i have to let you resume your holiday but great to see un person, thank you for coming in. polina ivanova is the russia correspondent for the financial times. nice to see you. i know you've been following the story to the course of the day but can you tell me a little bit about the investigation, the location of the bodies and what is being done in moscow to get to the bottom of this?— being done in moscow to get to the bottom of this? well, we know that the lane bottom of this? well, we know that the plane crashed _ bottom of this? well, we know that the plane crashed somewhere - the plane crashed somewhere northwest _ the plane crashed somewhere northwest of _ the plane crashed somewhere northwest of moscow, - the plane crashed somewhere northwest of moscow, in - the plane crashed somewhere northwest of moscow, in a - the plane crashed somewhere - northwest of moscow, in a settlement there heer— northwest of moscow, in a settlement there hear iocet— northwest of moscow, in a settlement there near local village _ northwest of moscow, in a settlement there near local village and _ northwest of moscow, in a settlement there near local village and there - there near local village and there were _ there near local village and there were a _ there near local village and there were a lot — there near local village and there were a lot of— there near local village and there were a lot of eyewitnesses - there near local village and there were a lot of eyewitnesses so - there near local village and there i were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot _ were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot of— were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot of footage _ were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot of footage around _ were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot of footage around it. - were a lot of eyewitnesses so there is a lot of footage around it. we - is a lot of footage around it. we know _ is a lot of footage around it. we know that — is a lot of footage around it. we know that the _ is a lot of footage around it. we know that the russian - is a lot of footage around it. we . know that the russian investigative committee — know that the russian investigative committee has _ know that the russian investigative committee has said _ know that the russian investigative committee has said that _ know that the russian investigative committee has said that it's- committee has said that it's launching _ committee has said that it's launching a _ committee has said that it's launching a criminal- committee has said that it's launching a criminal case i committee has said that it's launching a criminal case toj launching a criminal case to investigate _ launching a criminal case to investigate the _ launching a criminal case to investigate the cause - launching a criminal case to investigate the cause of- launching a criminal case to investigate the cause of the incident _ investigate the cause of the incident and _ investigate the cause of the incident and also _ investigate the cause of the incident and also russia's . investigate the cause of the - incident and also russia's aviation agency— incident and also russia's aviation agency has — incident and also russia's aviation agency has said _ incident and also russia's aviation agency has said that _ incident and also russia's aviation agency has said that it— incident and also russia's aviation agency has said that it is- incident and also russia's aviation agency has said that it is looking i agency has said that it is looking for the _ agency has said that it is looking for the black— agency has said that it is looking for the black box _ agency has said that it is looking for the black box and _ agency has said that it is looking for the black box and is - agency has said that it is looking for the black box and is also - for the black box and is also looking _ for the black box and is also looking into _ for the black box and is also looking into the _ for the black box and is also looking into the causes - for the black box and is also looking into the causes of l for the black box and is also i looking into the causes of the incident _ looking into the causes of the incident so— looking into the causes of the incident. so right _ looking into the causes of the incident. so right now- looking into the causes of the incident. so right now we - looking into the causes of the i incident. so right now we know looking into the causes of the - incident. so right now we know that part of— incident. so right now we know that part of the — incident. so right now we know that part of the plaintiff— incident. so right now we know that part of the plaintiff scattered - incident. so right now we know that part of the plaintiff scattered in - incident. so right now we know that part of the plaintiff scattered in a i part of the plaintiff scattered in a small— part of the plaintiff scattered in a small area, — part of the plaintiff scattered in a small area, apart— part of the plaintiff scattered in a small area, apart from _ part of the plaintiff scattered in a small area, apart from the tail. part of the plaintiff scattered in a i small area, apart from the tail end of the _ small area, apart from the tail end of the plane — small area, apart from the tail end of the plane about _ small area, apart from the tail end of the plane about 3.5 _ small area, apart from the tail end of the plane about 3.5 km - small area, apart from the tail end of the plane about 3.5 km away . of the plane about 3.5 km away somewhere _ of the plane about 3.5 km away somewhere else _ of the plane about 3.5 km away somewhere else so _ of the plane about 3.5 km away somewhere else so everybody. of the plane about 3.5 km awayl somewhere else so everybody is of the plane about 3.5 km away - somewhere else so everybody is still piecing _ somewhere else so everybody is still piecing together— somewhere else so everybody is still piecing together what _ somewhere else so everybody is still piecing together what really- piecing together what really happened _ piecing together what really happened. but— piecing together what really happened. but of— piecing together what really happened. but of course . piecing together what reallyl happened. but of course the piecing together what really- happened. but of course the primary theories _ happened. but of course the primary theories that — happened. but of course the primary theories that are _ happened. but of course the primary theories that are being _ happened. but of course the primary theories that are being discussed - theories that are being discussed are potentially— theories that are being discussed are potentially a _ theories that are being discussed are potentially a bomb _ theories that are being discussed are potentially a bomb on - theories that are being discussed are potentially a bomb on the - theories that are being discussed - are potentially a bomb on the plane, something _ are potentially a bomb on the plane, something in— are potentially a bomb on the plane, something in the _ are potentially a bomb on the plane, something in the undercarriage - are potentially a bomb on the plane, something in the undercarriage of. something in the undercarriage of the plaintiff— something in the undercarriage of the plaintiff and _ something in the undercarriage of the plaintiff and others _ something in the undercarriage of the plaintiff and others have - something in the undercarriage of. the plaintiff and others have spoken about _ the plaintiff and others have spoken about a _ the plaintiff and others have spoken about a surface—to—air_ the plaintiff and others have spoken about a surface—to—air missile. - about a surface—to—air missile. there — about a surface—to—air missile. there are — about a surface—to—air missile. there are different _ about a surface—to—air missile. there are different theories. . about a surface—to—air missile. l there are different theories. you robabl there are different theories. you probably heard — there are different theories. probably heard steve saying there are different theories.” probably heard steve saying that what matters at the end of the day is the fate of yevgeny prigozhin whether he is alive or dead. do you think the russian authorities will produce a body to put an end to the conspiracy that he is still alive? if you're going to put a stake to the heart of your enemy, the best way to do that miserably will be to show the world that he is well and truly dead. i show the world that he is well and trul dead. . ., truly dead. i mean, i think in their e es, truly dead. i mean, i think in their eyes. that— truly dead. i mean, i think in their eyes, that theatricality _ truly dead. i mean, i think in their eyes, that theatricality of - truly dead. i mean, i think in their eyes, that theatricality of the - eyes, that theatricality of the incident — eyes, that theatricality of the incident that— eyes, that theatricality of the incident that we _ eyes, that theatricality of the incident that we saw, - eyes, that theatricality of the incident that we saw, the - eyes, that theatricality of the | incident that we saw, the fact eyes, that theatricality of the - incident that we saw, the fact that this was— incident that we saw, the fact that this was not— incident that we saw, the fact that this was not a _ incident that we saw, the fact that this was not a poisoning _ incident that we saw, the fact that this was not a poisoning or- incident that we saw, the fact that this was not a poisoning or an - this was not a poisoning or an assassination— this was not a poisoning or an assassination in— this was not a poisoning or an assassination in the _ this was not a poisoning or an assassination in the dead - this was not a poisoning or an assassination in the dead of. this was not a poisoning or an - assassination in the dead of night. this was— assassination in the dead of night. this was in— assassination in the dead of night. this was in broad _ assassination in the dead of night. this was in broad daylight, - assassination in the dead of night. this was in broad daylight, a - assassination in the dead of night. | this was in broad daylight, a plane being _ this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken— this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down— this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down out _ this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down out of— this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down out of the - this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down out of the sky, l this was in broad daylight, a plane being taken down out of the sky, i| being taken down out of the sky, i think— being taken down out of the sky, i think with — being taken down out of the sky, i think with the _ being taken down out of the sky, i think with the entire _ being taken down out of the sky, i think with the entire leadership i being taken down out of the sky, i think with the entire leadership of| think with the entire leadership of wagner— think with the entire leadership of wagner on — think with the entire leadership of wagner on board, _ think with the entire leadership of wagner on board, is— think with the entire leadership of wagner on board, is difficult- think with the entire leadership of wagner on board, is difficult for. wagner on board, is difficult for them _ wagner on board, is difficult for them to— wagner on board, is difficult for them to send _ wagner on board, is difficult for them to send a _ wagner on board, is difficult for them to send a stronger- wagner on board, is difficult for. them to send a stronger message wagner on board, is difficult for- them to send a stronger message than that. ., , ., , them to send a stronger message than that. ., , .,, .,, i. them to send a stronger message than that. ., , ., that. plane people as you say who believe this _ that. plane people as you say who believe this further _ that. plane people as you say who believe this further strengthens i believe this further strengthens putin poz my position after a wobbly couple of months, but ulysse online i'm sure the pictures or presumed pictures of president putin driving to the kremlin last night, reports that he might have returned to moscow, these reports that there are tighter security in rostov. do you think we are at the end of this process or could there now be a process or could there now be a process of blood—letting as other wagner figures try to wreak their revenge? i wagner figures try to wreak their revenue? ., wagner figures try to wreak their revenue? ~ ., , .,, ., revenge? i think what this has done it as it a very _ revenge? i think what this has done it as it a very powerful _ revenge? i think what this has done it as it a very powerful message - revenge? i think what this has done j it as it a very powerful message and a signal— it as it a very powerful message and a signal and — it as it a very powerful message and a signal and struck— it as it a very powerful message and a signal and struck quite _ it as it a very powerful message and a signal and struck quite a - it as it a very powerful message and a signal and struck quite a lot- a signal and struck quite a lot of fear into— a signal and struck quite a lot of fear into the _ a signal and struck quite a lot of fear into the hearts _ a signal and struck quite a lot of fear into the hearts of _ a signal and struck quite a lot of fear into the hearts of anybody. a signal and struck quite a lot of. fear into the hearts of anybody who might _ fear into the hearts of anybody who might have — fear into the hearts of anybody who might have continued _ fear into the hearts of anybody who might have continued to _ fear into the hearts of anybody who might have continued to side - might have continued to side with yevgeny— might have continued to side with yevgeny prigozhin _ might have continued to side with yevgeny prigozhin after _ might have continued to side with yevgeny prigozhin after the - might have continued to side with. yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. ithink— yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. i think it's _ yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. i think it's a — yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. i think it's a large _ yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. i think it's a large response - yevgeny prigozhin after the mutiny. i think it's a large response from . i think it's a large response from those _ i think it's a large response from those who— i think it's a large response from those who still— i think it's a large response from those who still supported - i think it's a large response from i those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin — those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin in — those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin in the _ those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin in the past _ those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin in the past two - those who still supported yevgeny prigozhin in the past two months. | those who still supported yevgeny. prigozhin in the past two months. it is much _ prigozhin in the past two months. it is much more — prigozhin in the past two months. it is much more likely— prigozhin in the past two months. it is much more likely to _ prigozhin in the past two months. it is much more likely to create - prigozhin in the past two months. it is much more likely to create a - is much more likely to create a sense — is much more likely to create a sense of— is much more likely to create a sense of perhaps _ is much more likely to create a sense of perhaps jaded - sense of perhaps jaded disillusionment- sense of perhaps jaded disillusionment among| sense of perhaps jaded - disillusionment among those sense of perhaps jaded _ disillusionment among those people who still— disillusionment among those people who still saw— disillusionment among those people who still saw yevgeny— disillusionment among those people who still saw yevgeny prigozhin - disillusionment among those people who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as l disillusionment among those people who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of— who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of speaking _ who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of speaking truth _ who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of speaking truth to _ who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of speaking truth to power, - who still saw yevgeny prigozhin as a kind of speaking truth to power, as. kind of speaking truth to power, as criticising _ kind of speaking truth to power, as criticising leadership _ kind of speaking truth to power, as criticising leadership of _ kind of speaking truth to power, as criticising leadership of the - criticising leadership of the russian _ criticising leadership of the russian only— criticising leadership of the russian only for— criticising leadership of the russian only for their- criticising leadership of the i russian only for their failures. criticising leadership of the - russian only for their failures. but another— russian only for their failures. but another march _ russian only for their failures. but another march on _ russian only for their failures. but another march on moscow, - russian only for their failures. but i another march on moscow, another wave _ another march on moscow, another wave of— another march on moscow, another wave of anger? _ another march on moscow, another wave of anger? more _ another march on moscow, anotherl wave of anger? more blood—letting, more _ wave of anger? more blood—letting, more opposition? _ wave of anger? more blood—letting, more opposition? i— wave of anger? more blood—letting, more opposition? ithink— wave of anger? more blood—letting, more opposition? i think it's- wave of anger? more blood—letting, more opposition? i think it's in- more opposition? i think it's in fact quite — more opposition? i think it's in fact quite unlikely _ more opposition? i think it's in fact quite unlikely consideringl more opposition? i think it's in. fact quite unlikely considering the strength— fact quite unlikely considering the strength of— fact quite unlikely considering the strength of the _ fact quite unlikely considering the strength of the message - fact quite unlikely considering the strength of the message that - fact quite unlikely considering the. strength of the message that putin hasiust_ strength of the message that putin has just sent~ — strength of the message that putin hasjust sent-— strength of the message that putin has just sent. hasjust sent. interesting coming to talk to ou hasjust sent. interesting coming to talk to you tonight, _ hasjust sent. interesting coming to talk to you tonight, thank _ hasjust sent. interesting coming to talk to you tonight, thank you - talk to you tonight, thank you very much. while all this was unfolding today, a court in moscow quietly extended the detention of the wall streetjournal reporter evan gershkovich, who you will remember was arrested on espionage charges at the end of march, charges which are patently false. during a brief hearing, the court ordered that mr gershkovich should remain injail until november 30th, which although not entirely surprising, is enormously depressing for his colleagues, friends and family. his pre—trial detention was scheduled to expire next week. he continues to be held in the notorious lefortovo prison in moscow, and he is facing a sentence of up to 20 years if he's found guilty. paul beckett is the washington bureau chief of the wall streetjournal. hejoins me now. good to see you this evening, paul. not great news today. what has been the reaction from evan's team and those who were speaking to him in moscow? , ., ., , . , ., , moscow? everyone of these decisions are tou . h moscow? everyone of these decisions are tough decisions _ moscow? everyone of these decisions are tough decisions for _ moscow? everyone of these decisions are tough decisions for us _ moscow? everyone of these decisions are tough decisions for us to - moscow? everyone of these decisions are tough decisions for us to take. - are tough decisions for us to take. it's a reminder that he's been there for five months already and now another three months and based on our current record, we expected to be longer than that. and thatjust gets into the trial, in which he said patently false charges but we would assume therefore he would be convicted. so it's part of what's being already too long away, and we are just bracing being already too long away, and we arejust bracing for being already too long away, and we are just bracing for more. that was obviously for evan. he will pass his 32nd birthday in that prison in a few weeks' time. that also is a reminder of how this has gone on far too long. the reminder of how this has gone on far too lonu. ., ., ._ reminder of how this has gone on far too lont. ., ., ._ .,, too long. the hearing today was closed to the _ too long. the hearing today was closed to the public. _ too long. the hearing today was closed to the public. has - too long. the hearing today was | closed to the public. has anyone too long. the hearing today was - closed to the public. has anyone had access to evan in the lefortovo prison and we know how they are treating them? we prison and we know how they are treating them?— prison and we know how they are treatin: them? ~ . ., , , ., treating them? we have lawyers who see him on the _ treating them? we have lawyers who see him on the fairly _ treating them? we have lawyers who see him on the fairly regular- treating them? we have lawyers who see him on the fairly regular basis. i see him on the fairly regular basis. the american ambassador to moscow has been to see him a couple of times, most recently a few weeks ago. the reports back, such as they are, are somewhat heartening under the circumstances. he seems to be in decent shape, he seems to be healthy, he is getting some letters in and out. all under the circumstances of as you say he is and is notoriously awful security services prison in moscow. tats and is notoriously awful security services prison in moscow. as you suggested. _ services prison in moscow. as you suggested, there _ services prison in moscow. as you suggested, there is _ services prison in moscow. as you suggested, there is a _ services prison in moscow. as you suggested, there is a pattern - services prison in moscow. as you suggested, there is a pattern to i suggested, there is a pattern to this. we have seen it many times before, but it has been speculative widely that the russians are looking for an exchange in factjoe the last month that he is seriously pursuing a prisoner exchange and that that process is under way. do you know any more than that? blot process is under way. do you know any more than that?— process is under way. do you know any more than that? not much we can see from the — any more than that? not much we can see from the outside _ any more than that? not much we can see from the outside and _ any more than that? not much we can see from the outside and that's - see from the outside and that's really between the national security council and the russians. i have to say when this has come up before, we see the signs of hope and they are usually pretty quickly —— unfortunately. last time we saw it, the russians said they were actively engaged in a couple of days later, the national security adviserjake sullivan came out and said we are talking, but we don't see any clear path or breakthrough that would resolve this. so we have turned a little harder in that that we see a lot of comments and then we would love to see more action. we lot of comments and then we would love to see more action.— love to see more action. we will continue to _ love to see more action. we will continue to keep _ love to see more action. we will continue to keep covering - love to see more action. we will continue to keep covering it - love to see more action. we will continue to keep covering it of. continue to keep covering it of course and we send our best wishes to his colleagues and his friends and family and i always try mention as well, paul, it is, that there is another american of course it was still in prison and has been for five years and that is paul wheeling who is suffering the same fate. so if you say, we have to prepare ourselves for the possibility that this will drag on what thoughts do you and everybody who knows him. thank you for coming on.— thank you for coming on. really appreciate _ thank you for coming on. really appreciate the _ thank you for coming on. really appreciate the support, - thank you for coming on. really appreciate the support, thank . thank you for coming on. really i appreciate the support, thank you very much. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the backlog of asylum cases in the uk has risen to a new record high, new home office figures show. more than 175,000 people were waiting for a decision on whether they will be granted refugee status at the end ofjune 2023, up 44% from last year. government said it's committed to reducing levels of immigration but labour says ministers need to get a grip. king charles and queen camilla's state visit to france will now take place in september, buckingham palace has announced. they were due to tour paris and bordeaux in march, but the trip was postponed after violent protests broke out in opposition to president macron's retirement age reforms. the palace and france said the visit was an honour for france. a record number of people are saying out loans to cover payments and they have seen a i7% increase in those contacting them for advice. you're live with bbc news. the share price of the chip designer nvidia is soaring. the company reported $13 billion in revenue yesterday for its second quarter of 2023. that is up 88% from the previous quarter, well ahead of the $11 billion that analysts were expecting. sales were more than double those from the same quarter a year ago. nvidia's chips are the specialised processors that are fine—tuned to accelerate the calculations that drive chatgpt and the other generative ai applications. and it only further confirms that we are at the beginning of something really big. if you were to go back in time to the early 1990s, when every company in america realised they needed to be on the internet, the one company that was building the routers firms needed to connect was cisco, who made a fortune. let's speak to of money money and markets at hargreaves. good to see you. i suppose the obvious question is have we all missed the boat? ii'idta�*e is have we all missed the boat? have we missed the _ is have we all missed the boat? have we missed the boat? _ is have we all missed the boat? ihiééi we missed the boat? well they is have we all missed the boat? the: we missed the boat? well they will be the fear that if you did not invest in nvidia shares before they catapulted so high. it'sjoined invest in nvidia shares before they catapulted so high. it's joined the $1 trillion club along with the likes of microsoft, apple and amazon of course. but obviously we don't yet know exactly how this ai is going to fully play out. all eyes are on nvidia right now. you'd enthusiasm around this stock because relief is the first mover in this space and as a dominant position because it chips are used so widely in al applications. but there are rivals. they are certainly not as big right now but there are some questions aboutjust how rapid the growth in nvidia share price valuation has been because we don't yet know whether this frenzy will moderate. it is likely to do so but at the moment what is happening to companies is they are not wanting to miss the bow and they are at ring fencing available budgets and putting as much as they can into potential ai capabilities. they don't want to be left behind. but once we have a bit more of a full understanding about how these new systems can be integrated within companies, you could see demand start to moderate and you could still see some of the men as now dominating more in the future. we all remembervery dominating more in the future. we all remember very clearlyjust what happened in through the supply crunch that was ongoing through the pandemic and sunlight we are all aware of chips because they are in our cars and everything that we use. it is the industry changing as a result of that and is nvidia benefiting from it? it result of that and is nvidia benefiting from it?- result of that and is nvidia benefiting from it? it is certainly benefitin: benefiting from it? it is certainly benefiting from _ benefiting from it? it is certainly benefiting from that, _ benefiting from it? it is certainly benefiting from that, but - benefiting from it? it is certainly benefiting from that, but it - benefiting from it? it is certainly benefiting from that, but it is . benefiting from that, but it is really benefiting from this ai frenzy. look at nvidia's h 100 ship for example, widely used in al applications and demand far outpacing supply so it is currently selling for a double its original price which is certainly accounting for some of that huge surge in revenues that we have seen. and there are exited to be some supply—chain challenges down the road. already we are having problems, for example, in the market in terms of the supply of metal casings for some of these ships, and that's probably why you saw a surge in the share price of other companies listed, for example samsung, because it is seen as potentially being able to get into or in bed with nvidia potentially to try and help solve some of the supply change challenges and found a new business. so we can see how it's really in a length and how this ripple effect of this ai frenzy is helping lift other companies as well, but interestingly some of the most important challenges to semiconductor manufacturing companies, share prices falling back today, and actually nvidia has lost some of the games it had earlier. you convinced me we will wait for the debt. thank you very much indeed, good to talk to you. football's world governing body has opened disciplinary proceedings against the president of the spanish fa today. it's investigating his conduct during the celebrations after the final at the women's world cup. this is the moment after the final whistle just before luis rubiales planted a forced kiss on the lips ofjenny hermoso, one of the players in the spanish team. he also lifted athenea del castillo onto his shoulders in a fireman's lift. hermoso complained about the kiss through the players�* union. separate to the fifa inquiry, the spanish fa has confirmed it will hold its own extraordinary meeting tomorrow to discuss the issue. a complaint has also been filed to the prosecutors office in madrid and the state attorney general�*s office alleging the actions constituted sexual assault. we are hearing from spain tonight that luis rubiales may indeed resign tomorrow. joining me now from brighton is sports reporter isabelle latifa barker. that is the breaking news that he might consider resigning tomorrow and some would say he should given the pressure he is facing. definitely it. thankfully things are moving really quickly on this and i'm here from colleagues in spain, yes, he has had to hand in a resignation letter and would actually step down tomorrow. he would no longer be eligible to run for president again but things were looking bleakfor for president again but things were looking bleak for him anyway. it has been handled in the appropriate manner and he could have been facing up manner and he could have been facing up to a 15 year band so thankfully pressure are not only football stars, but spain's on her ministry saying it was not irritable and the abilityjust saying it was not irritable and the ability just was saying it was not irritable and the abilityjust was not enough and thankfully that pressure has come through and he has had to resign because what i was hearing was up until very recently, he was refusing to budge, to resign, to leave his post. so thankfully things are moving in the right direction at the very least, but it's still not really enough. someone who has huge responsibility has marred the biggest day injenny hermoso's career and the spain women's national team as well. his annual sala is national team as well. his annual salary is over— national team as well. his annual salary is over 600,000 _ national team as well. his annual salary is over 600,000 euros - national team as well. his annual salary is over 600,000 euros so | national team as well. his annual. salary is over 600,000 euros so you see why you might be toughing it out. the apology was interesting because it seemed to claim it was over exuberance and there was no ill intent. what is the spanish fa saying about that?— intent. what is the spanish fa saying about that? thankfully they have taken a _ saying about that? thankfully they have taken a really _ saying about that? thankfully they have taken a really firm _ saying about that? thankfully they have taken a really firm stance - saying about that? thankfully they have taken a really firm stance on | have taken a really firm stance on it and straightaway, they went to jenny hermoso and her union and get a statement from them. obviously they completely follow the right protocol acid of the emergency meeting straightaway so it was all following the right steps. but i think the important thing was to look atjenny hermoso's statement and hear her voice and what i'm hearing was that obviously she was put in a really difficult position. it was maybe in his opinion a joker thing like that but for women and for the everybody else, black and white, it was a boss grabbing an employee and kissing them which is not ok. so important to forjenny hermoso and i think you found it very difficult to come out with the right statement and she obviously has taken the union on board because they are supposed to be partying in ib there right now and celebrating the moment but she is embroiled in a real storm right now. so a difficult one she is obviously having to be advised on that and have a clear statement initially, but if moving in the right direction. we statement initially, but if moving in the right direction.— in the right direction. we will watch what — in the right direction. we will watch what happens - in the right direction. we will l watch what happens tomorrow. in the right direction. we will - watch what happens tomorrow. if you very much to that. let's go to a short break but now a live picture from fulton county, georgia, and thatis from fulton county, georgia, and that is the barrier to the jailhouse house where donald trump will appear later this evening we will talk about that in the rest of the programme tonight. that was about to leave newjersey where his golf club is for atlanta to stay with us. hello there. it's the final week of summer 2023, and it does look as though the season is determined to go out on a rather unsettled note. but that said, it's not always going to be raining. we have low pressure in charge at the minute. in the coming days, it will be producing some downpours which could be heavy and thundery, but not always. there will be sunshine to enjoy as well. so through this evening, we have an area of low pressure still in charge towards the north—west. that's set to bring rain to western areas of scotland and a few spots of rain for northern ireland as well. but elsewhere, for much of england and wales, it's a largely dry picture. and for many of us tonight with clear skies, it is going to be cooler. last night, temperatures stayed for most in and around the low teens, but some spots tonight will dip into the single digits. so a cooler start to tomorrow, but because of those clear skies, a largely dry start first thing. and there should be some good amounts of sunshine to enjoy during the first part of the day as well. northerly winds will develop, keeping it feeling a little bit cooler and fresher towards the north and the west, with some outbreaks of rain here. some scattered showers develop elsewhere through the day, and there is the potential that some of those will be heavy with some thunder and lightning. and towards the south—east, the temperatures start to fall back to normal for the time of year. 21 degrees in london. that's down by about five degrees on today. into saturday, where the low pressure stays with us, those northerly winds keeping it cooler and fresher towards the north and the west with a few spots of rain. as the day gets going, we're going to see scattered showers popping up, and when they do, they could well be very heavy. some thunder and lightning likely to be in the mix as well, but there will be sunshine in between those showers. so it's not always going to be raining through the day on saturday. into sunday, we have another weather system in the atlantic, and that's going to move in slowly. as it does so, bringing a lot of cloud, and there will be a good bit of rain coming into northern ireland. as that system nudges eastwards, it will begin to fizzle out, but bringing a lot of cloud to many other areas of the uk. it's bank holiday monday for many of us, and that does look as though it will be a fairly decent day for many. largely dry, some sunshine coming and going. so, into sunday, a little bit unsettled the further north and west. for monday, there will be a lot of dry weather and some sunshine for quite a few of us. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. coming up, will be live in atlanta, georgia where the authorities coming up, we'll be live in atlanta, georgia where the authorities are awaiting the arrival of the former president. donald trump will surrender in the next few hours to the sherrif at the fulton countyjailhouse, where he will processed for the fourth time in five months. we start with rugby union and another day, another hammer blow for england. anthony watson has been ruled out of the world cup with a calf injury. the british and irish lion with 56 england caps adding to a turbulent build—up for the 2003 champions with the global extravaganza kicking off in just over two weeks. the news comes just 2a hours after bans were confirmed for captain owen farrell and the only specialist number eight in the squad, billy vunipola.

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