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it's estimated that could cost more than $5 billion. one of the buildings which was destroyed was the grace baptist church. our correspondent sophie long is in hawaii and spoke to some of the congregation. the fire left more than a city devastated, and charred black buildings behind. questions hover above the emptiness. how can you rebuild from this? what will exist here in the future? a now churchless congregation gathers at a coffee shop to share their pain. one of the police officers sent me pictures. it used to be my house. i wept, but weeping is not a lack of faith. thank god that he gave us tears. # amazing grace...# there are so many questions that remain without answers. why did one survive to sit in a makeshift church when their neighbour didn't? what will become of their community so crippled by a loss that's still being counted? i don't think it will ever be the same. i hope it will be better. that's my prayer. and i believe that, i think one day, you know, it can be an even better lahaina than it was hopefully, that is what i hope at least, yeah. how do they explain to those too young to understand what their parents can't comprehend? children live in the moment most when they're young. i so you may have to explain it more than once with them. _ but all you can do isjust be straightforward, tell 'em i the fire took the house. the terrible thing is that it's going to be hard - because the next fire, i you know, the next time they hear fire, that fear is going to come back. i we actually had one lady beating on our window, "save me, save me." these people may have lost their homes but they have not lost their hope. we are going to build ourselves up, shake ourselves up, keep shake ourselves off, keep going forward, we are not broken. that place might be for now but it won't stay that way. and even the elderly with other places they could go will stay and rebuild. family on the mainland are trying to get me to move back, - and my son told my daughter, he said, "you don't get it. - dad is going to die there. i because that's his home." it's our home. - but we'll come back. we'll survive, we'll get through this. . they'll tell their children that there has been mass death and destruction, but out of it came heroes and hope. sophie long, bbc news, maui. live now to dr douglas kelley — from the uk centre for ecology and hydrology — and who was the lead analyst for a un report last year, predicting a global increase in wildfire activity. welcome to the programme. we will talk about hawaii are specifically in a moment but if we could talk about that report first of all, you talked about this huge increase in the number of extreme fires. some of the number of extreme fires. some of the figures, up 30% by 2050 and then by the end of the century up 50%, talk us through what it is down to. we talk about climate change a lot but it isn'tjust that, is it? climate change does play a large role in that and some of the big heat we have had recently wouldn't have been possible without climate change and these are the things that dry out the conditions that promote wildfires and make them more intense but loud use plays a role as well, particularly in places where you have natural vegetation which might hold in more water which creates dumb and prevents wild fires spreading. when you start degrading them, chopping down forests, deforestation, that will also promote wildfire because the vegetation dries out, the trees dry out and we have more fires as a result so it's a mixture of the two, climate change and land change which causes wildfires. the climate change and land change which causes wildfires.— causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is obviously _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is obviously so - the landscapes is obviously so important. in terms of what can be done more generally to prevent these fires, i don'tjust mean smaller fires, i don'tjust mean smaller fire breaks or whatever, but what needs to be done more generally to stop this sort of thing happening in areas where perhaps they haven't been vulnerable to wildfires previously?— been vulnerable to wildfires reviousl ? ., , ., previously? there are some small thins previously? there are some small things that _ previously? there are some small things that can — previously? there are some small things that can be _ previously? there are some small things that can be done. - previously? there are some small things that can be done. when - previously? there are some small things that can be done. when we previously? there are some small - things that can be done. when we are looking at some of these ecosystems that have been changed, looking at restoration which might help manage these fires, replanting with native or well—managed species, or restoring wetlands which might prevent some of these fires from spreading. but really we have also got to live with the fact these wildfires are going to become more prevalent so although there are things we can do to help reduce them, we are going to get more of them. so it is about planning around that, fire management plans beforehand, planning evacuation routes and helping communities rebuild after fires have occurred. i rebuild after fires have occurred. i talked about areas where you wouldn't quite expect it being vulnerable now. you talk about the arctic being vulnerable to fires in your report. arctic being vulnerable to fires in your report-— arctic being vulnerable to fires in our re ort. , . ., , your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the arctic - your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the arctic in - some wildfires in the arctic in recent years. the problem with these places as they release a lot of carbon as well so that an excess about climate change which might also lead to more wildfires in the future. in the arctic in particular, the arctic is where temperatures rise much faster than the rest of the world so that is where wildfires become bigger because things can dry out there faster because of these temperature rises which promote wildfires. irate temperature rises which promote wildfires. ~ ., ~ temperature rises which promote wildfires. ~ . ,, ., ., ., wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a - wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a bit - wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a bit of - now, and i want to play a bit of what the governor from hawaii josh green has been saying. he talked about how extreme the wind was in the situation and perhaps it is a unique set of circumstances. let's listen to what he had to say, this is the governor. fire travelled one mile every minute, resulting in this tragedy. with those kind of winds and i,000—degree temperatures, ultimately all the pictures that you will see will be easy to understand because that level of destruction in a fire hurricane is something new to us, in this age of global warming, it was the ultimate reason that so many people perished. so he said that the fire travelled at a mile a minute. so he said that the fire travelled ata mile a minute. it so he said that the fire travelled at a mile a minute. it is extraordinary how fast it spread, isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there? the isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there?— isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there? the wind has obviously made _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire is _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire is much - obviously made the fire is much worse and make them travel fast and that's part of the reason why it was so hard to plan for and why it was so hard to plan for and why it was so hard to manage. but it's the dry conditions initially which got the fire is going to start with. so the winds blew the fires that were a curtain because of the extra dry conditions, so it was both together, the dry conditions and hurricane would have made this fire so devastating.— would have made this fire so devastating. would have made this fire so devastatina . ., devastating. even though the extreme situation was — devastating. even though the extreme situation was so _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad it _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad it wouldn't - situation was so bad it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the conditions that were there already and climate change? it conditions that were there already and climate change?— conditions that were there already and climate change? it was the dry conditions and _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the winds _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the winds that - conditions and the winds that carried them.— conditions and the winds that carried them. ., ,, , ., ., ., carried them. thank you for 'oining us, carried them. thank you for 'oining docked — carried them. thank you for 'oining us, docked douglasfi carried them. thank you for 'oining us, docked douglas kelley. _ let's turn to india where landslides and flash floods have killed at least 49 people in the northern indian state of himachal pradesh. some of the deaths were in a temple destroyed in the state capital, shimla. rescuers are trying to free those still trapped under the debris. days of torrential downpours have washed away vehicles, demolished buildings and destroyed bridges. local officials have warned the population to stay at home with more heavy rainfall expected. we will have more on that later in the programme is to stay with us on bbc news. to the political crisis in west africa now. the military group which seized power in niger last month says it plans to prosecute the ousted president mohamed barzoum — for high treason — and for undermining the security of the country. president bazoum has been held in the basement of his palace since the military staged a coup about three weeks ago — toppling the democratically elected government. in a statement — an army spokesman said the authorities had been gathering evidence against him — and — his "local and foreign accomplices". i should point out, however, that no evidence was provided. translation: in any event, the government of niger hasi to date gathered the necessary evidence to prosecute the ousted president and his local and foreign accomplices before the national and international authorities for high treason and undermining the internal and external security of niger, following his exchanges with the nationals and foreign heads of state and the heads of international organisations. well, what evidence might the coup leaders have? and what should we make of their statement about "foreign accomplices" ? we asked our correspondent — nkechi ogbonna. the army spokesperson colonel abdramane had said they had been gathering evidence against the deposed leader and what they claimed were his local and foreign accomplices, although no evidence was provided to support these claims. but the junta says president bazoum and his accomplices could also be prosecuted for undermining the security of niger and its neighbours, including nigeria. this comes a few days after the military appointed minister had said that — general tchiani specifically said he was upset about how ecowas, the regional bloc, had gone about the negotiations and the sanctions imposed against them without giving them a listening ear. but he was open to negotiations and diplomatic talks with the regional bloc, also general tchiani had hinted last saturday that the coup was very intentional and it was done to stave off an imminent threat to the people of niger and its neighbours. that, as well, no evidence was provided to support this claim of an imminent threat, but we would wait to see as events unfold follwing the ecowas meeting that is happening monday to help to quell the political crisis. also the african union's peace and security council are meeting monday to also look for new interventions for the crisis in niger. we willjust wait to see how all those meetings will unfold and the resolutions that would come from this. if we remember just last week ecowas had said it was having a military intervention. it had activated and deployed military intervention on niger, should all political and diplomatic options fail at the table. but this new action by the militaryjunta in niger could also impede whatever these negotiations may have been, or the result that they would have provided. and just to add that in niger we are hearing reports of over 50 people who were arrested sunday afternoon. these were anti—coup protesters who were protesting for the reinstatement and release of course of president mohamed bazoum who is still being held by the militaryjunta in the presidential palace since he was ousted last month. the militaryjunta had earlier banned all forms of protest but had encouraged, permissions were given to those who were pro—coup supporters in the different rallies and protests we have seen that have happened in the last couple of days and weeks since the coup happened. these 5a people are currently being held and we have not received any further news on what the charges would be. but we will just wait to see how events unfold in niger. in nkechi ogbonna reporting there. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. police say two men who were stabbed in south london last night were the victims of a homophobic attack. a man in his 20s and another in his 30s were stabbed outside a nightclub in clapham. they have since been discharged from hospital. no arrests have been made. a five—year—old girl has suffered "significant" facial injuries after being attacked by a dog outside a corner shop. the attack happened in norton, stockton—on—tees, on saturday. cleveland police said the child was taken to hospital for treatment and a dog has been seized. the dogs owner remained at the scene after the attack. scotland's biggest teaching union says new recruits are leaving the profession because they aren't being offered secure jobs. the eis is urging the scottish government to increase councilfunding to pay for more permanentjobs. the scottish government says it's taking "strong action" to protect teacher numbers. you're live with bbc news. from driverless cars to sd printing — artificial intelligence has been transforming how we live. but could ai — one day — be capable of reading our minds? lara lewington has been investigating the potential risks — and benefits — of the ai revolution for the bbc�*s panorama. hi, lara. hi, good to meet you. thank you for having us. come on in. thanks very much. neuroscientist alexander huth has spent a decade trying to understand how the brain works. if we want to build intelligent machines, maybe we want to make things that act more like human brains. so that's kind of what got me into neuroscience. this year, his team had a breakthrough. using ai technology that can understand language, they've built a computer that can read minds. we scan people's brains with an fmri scanner while theyjust listen to stories. so we track how their brains respond while they're listening to hours and hours of stories. the team has trained the al on their own brains. as they listen to stories inside the scanner, the computer watches what happens. what sort of brain activity are you looking for? we're looking for brain activity that's related to specific ideas or specific words that appear in the stories. so, for example, whenever you hear somebody talk about parking a car, there are certain patterns of activity in the brain that will be present that reliably correspond to that kind of idea. and we're trying to build up that mapping from this very large dataset. the computer looks for patterns in the vast amounts of data from the scanner. with enough training, it can translate brain activity into words. so the lead scientist is listening to a story for us. the war of the worlds. the martians in the pit had turned the heat ray on. a deep, throbbing sound, a silver pencil of light... ..and a narrow ribbon of bracken and grass and trees and houses stretching as far as the eye could see was scorched. and this is the text that the ai created from the brain scan. in the decoded version, which misses a lot of things, but it gets some of the good stuff, fired the bullets out of the clip he had on him as he ran. and then i heard a huge crack as a large piece of concrete hit my forehead and then a giant ball of fire. the general idea of "big noise, got hurt" is there in both of them. yeah. and then also the idea that something was on fire, the scorched versus a giant ball of fire, it captured all those things, but clearly not exactly the right words. so far, it's only analysed the brains of a handful of volunteers who've all spent 16 hours being scanned. but they hope it'll unlock the secrets of how our minds work. we are really pushing on, and what a lot of our effort in the lab goes toward is using this to actually understand the brain better. that's our scientific goal. in the end, we want to know, how does the brain work? how do our brains process language? how do we understand ideas? how do we think? sounds great, but what happens if it ends up in the wrong hands? some people are scared or think that the thought police is coming. i think it's a fair reaction to this to say, like, this is scary, i don't want this to happen. that was kind of our reaction too, like, the first thing that we thought when we got this working was like, this is fantastic, it's working. and then like, oh my god, this is working. are the thought police coming? not yet. none of the current technologies that we have would be effective at actually policing people's thoughts. and lara joins us now. what do you think about this? how reasonable is it to expect that this will get there someday? it looked to be rudimentary at the moment, didn't it? , , ., ., , be rudimentary at the moment, didn't it? , ,,, it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting _ it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab _ it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab experiment, i it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab experiment, a l it? yes, it is a really impressive - and exciting lab experiment, a proof of concept, but where is this going? but right now you have to have your brain scanned for 16 hours in an mri machine, and each individual needs their brain scanning because all of our brains work differently. they tried it on the end because my brain had been scanned it came up with nonsense and i promise i wasn't thinking of nonsense! the other thing is to actually do the mind reading you have to be in the mri reading you have to be in the mr! scanner so any kind of real—world scenario, be it a worrying one like you are in the street and somebody is just reading your you are in the street and somebody isjust reading your mind, or this possibly being used for medical purposes, for people that are struggling to speak for whatever reason which could be an amazing use for it, far away. these ideas are not things that are close. we would need to reach the point of some sort of wearable brain tracking device. they exist but they don't exist to the level of resolution that you would need to be able to replicate and mri scan. i would need to be able to replicate and mri scan-— and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the ve fact and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that h and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that people _ and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that people are _ and mri scan. i suppose just the very fact that people are trying l and mri scan. i suppose just the | very fact that people are trying to do this now will be unnerving to some people watching this right now, won't it? at}! some people watching this right now, won't it? .., , some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we _ some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we have - some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we have these i won't it? of course. we have these concerns every _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we talk - won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we talk about | concerns every time we talk about al. , ,., concerns every time we talk about al. , , ., , ., , ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and — ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very - ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very easy - ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very easy to l unnerving and it is very easy to jump unnerving and it is very easy to jump to scary, fearful scenarios but the reality is this can't do anything scary right now. it's an interesting experiment in terms of what it can do and the scientist does hope it will be useful in a medical sense in the long term. but the programme that this feature is in, the panorama that it features income is very much about looking at what the existential risk means, what the existential risk means, what are the real risks out there and what are the real risks right now. i think people naturallyjump ahead to this future idea, even some sort of sci—fi scenario that will not happen of robots coming to life and taking over, when in fact there are real risks from al, there are important things that we should be considering even now in terms of bias and disinformation. or you set an end goalfor an ai bias and disinformation. or you set an end goalfor an a! system and unlike a human who knows what to avoid on the way to that it will just try and reach its goal with no consideration for anything else. so there are a lot of things to think about. there are a lot of positives and also a lot of negatives in terms of ai. but should we be worried about the thought police and our minds being read right now? i don't think so. ., ~ minds being read right now? i don't think so. ., ,, i. ., ., think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington- — think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and _ think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if _ think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you - think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you are - think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you are in i think so. 0k, thank you, lara i lewington. and if you are in the think so. 0k, thank you, lara - lewington. and if you are in the uk you can watch the panorama programme. beyond human: artificial intelligence and us on bbc iplayer. we just have some news coming in from the uk government, raf typhoon jets were launched to intercept two long—range maritime patrol bombers this morning north of the shetland islands. they also say a voyager tanker was dispatched to provide air refuelling capability to extend the operational range of the typhoons. these raf typhoon jets were launched from raf lossiemouth in scotland it is one of the two uk quick reaction alert stations. there is a press release they sent out about this talking about how they transited north of the shetland islands within nato's northern air policing area. that is when these raf typhoon jets were launched. we will get more on that when we get it. but for the moment let's turn to poland where two russians accused of disseminating propaganda on behalf of the wagner mercenary group have been arrested and charged with espionage. just to remind you — the wagner group is a private military organisation led by yevgeny prigozhin. thousands of wagner mercenaries travelled to belarus — which borders poland — after the group's failed mutiny in june. straight to warsaw. adam easton is there. what more can you tell us about this? ~ . . ., ., ., , this? according to the polish security services _ this? according to the polish security services these - this? according to the polish security services these two l this? according to the polish i security services these two men this? according to the polish - security services these two men were arrested on friday after they pasted around 300 leaflets in public places in the city of krehl in the southern part of poland and also the capital warsaw which was promoting —— crack of. the wagner mercenary group and also providing a link to a recruitment website for the group. the polish security services say the men were being paid by moscow for those activities. ——krakow. up to $5,000 was mentioned. and as you say these men have been arrested and they have had charges of espionage which could mean if they were found guilty they would face up to ten years in prison. the polish security services so this is another example of what they call a hybrid attack against notjust poland but also nato and the eu. they said these men have been doing similar activities in berlin and paris in the past. the aim of this activity is to increase the sense of threat in nato. poland in particular, which is on the eastern flank of nato, of course. just briefly, poland is worried about wagner, isn't it? we have seen thousands of wagner troops in belarus and some of their training facilities are near the polish border. poland is very concerned, isn't it? it border. poland is very concerned, isn't it? , ., ~ isn't it? it is, and i think there has been _ isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a — isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a heightened - isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a heightened sense l isn't it? it is, and i think there. has been a heightened sense of insecurity in the polish society obviously since russia's invasion of ukraine and the massive wave of refugees from ukraine into poland. certainly the relocation of the wagner group is because the government to be particularly sensitive to their activities. they have said they were going to send an additional 10,000 troops to the border. they have talked about potentially closing the border, as has lithuania, and this is also in parallel of course with poland's upcoming parliamentary elections. it is promoting itself as the guarantor of polish security.— of polish security. thank you for that update. _ of polish security. thank you for that update, adam _ of polish security. thank you for that update, adam easton - of polish security. thank you for that update, adam easton in - of polish security. thank you for- that update, adam easton in warsaw. stay with us on bbc news. after half past we will hear about how one of the mums of the beatles was not impressed by the screaming fans at their concerts. stay with us. hello. hello. for some of us it has been a soggy start to the new working week with low pressure in charge of our weather. and this frontal system which has become quite slow moving across parts of northern england and north wales generating some very heavy bursts of rain. through the rest of the day it is north wales but perhaps more especially northern england and into the far south of scotland where we will see the wettest of the weather. there could well be enough rain to cause localised transport disruption, maybe a bit of flooding. quite windy across southern and eastern parts. sunshine and showers away from our main rain bands and temperatures generally in the low to mid 20s. as we head through tonight that rain will linger for a time across parts of eastern scotland and north—east england. i think much of it will pull away by the end of the night. one or two showers out west but the majority will be dry and clear, and not a cold night, 11—15 degrees. tomorrow the last vestiges of that rain will tend to clear from eastern scotland and north—east england and then it is a sunshine and showers day. some of the showers could be on the heavy side, but there will be some decent dry gaps in between and some spells of sunshine. temperature wise, we are looking at 19 degrees in aberdeen, 23 in norwich and in london. as we move out of tuesday and into wednesday, we start to see this quite weak area of high pressure building its way in. that will settle things down to some extent. underneath that high we could see some dense fog patches to start, particularly around western parts of england, wales and northern ireland. some of that fog taking a little while to clear, but it should do quite readily through the morning. then some sunny spells, a chance of one or two showers, but signs of something perhaps a bit warmer developing down towards the south—east. it looks like we will see some warmer weather later in the week. it is going to be quite a warm week generally across much of continental europe, and as we move through thursday and on into the start of friday we will start to develop a south easterly breeze, bringing some of that warmer air our way. butjust how warm it gets depends on the progress of this frontal system swinging in from the atlantic because that is going to bring cloud and some heavy rain northwards and eastwards. before that arrives, it looks like temperatures will, for some, get up into the middle 20s celsius but some very wet weather swinging its way eastward through friday and into the start of the weekend. this is bbc news, the headlines: the death toll in hawaii's devastating wildfires rises to 96. hundreds of people are still missing. the majority of health service cancer waiting time targets in england are expected to be scrapped. niger's coup leaders say they'll prosecute the toppled president for high treason. and how screaming beatles fans disgusted george harrison's mum. one of her letters revealing all goes under the hammer. sport, and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's will perry. chelsea have agreed a deal to sign brighton midfielder moises caicedo for a british record fee of £115 million. liverpool agreed a dealfour million shy of that figure for the 21—year—old on friday, but caicedo favoured chelsea, and they have finally succeeded with a bid after having a number of offers knocked back by brighton. caicedo will become chelsea's eighth signing of the summer. neymar�*s leaving paris saint—germain to join saudi pro—league club al—hilal. the fee is understood to be around 90 million euros plus add—ons. the transfer is subject to the brazilian completing a medical and all the necessary paperwork. it comes after it became clear neymar was not part of new coach luis enrique's plans for the new season.

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it's estimated that could cost more than $5 billion. one of the buildings which was destroyed was the grace baptist church. our correspondent sophie long is in hawaii and spoke to some of the congregation. the fire left more than a city devastated, and charred black buildings behind. questions hover above the emptiness. how can you rebuild from this? what will exist here in the future? a now churchless congregation gathers at a coffee shop to share their pain. one of the police officers sent me pictures. it used to be my house. i wept, but weeping is not a lack of faith. thank god that he gave us tears. # amazing grace...# there are so many questions that remain without answers. why did one survive to sit in a makeshift church when their neighbour didn't? what will become of their community so crippled by a loss that's still being counted? i don't think it will ever be the same. i hope it will be better. that's my prayer. and i believe that, i think one day, you know, it can be an even better lahaina than it was hopefully, that is what i hope at least, yeah. how do they explain to those too young to understand what their parents can't comprehend? children live in the moment most when they're young. i so you may have to explain it more than once with them. _ but all you can do isjust be straightforward, tell 'em i the fire took the house. the terrible thing is that it's going to be hard - because the next fire, i you know, the next time they hear fire, that fear is going to come back. i we actually had one lady beating on our window, "save me, save me." these people may have lost their homes but they have not lost their hope. we are going to build ourselves up, shake ourselves up, keep shake ourselves off, keep going forward, we are not broken. that place might be for now but it won't stay that way. and even the elderly with other places they could go will stay and rebuild. family on the mainland are trying to get me to move back, - and my son told my daughter, he said, "you don't get it. - dad is going to die there. i because that's his home." it's our home. - but we'll come back. we'll survive, we'll get through this. . they'll tell their children that there has been mass death and destruction, but out of it came heroes and hope. sophie long, bbc news, maui. live now to dr douglas kelley — from the uk centre for ecology and hydrology — and who was the lead analyst for a un report last year, predicting a global increase in wildfire activity. welcome to the programme. we will talk about hawaii are specifically in a moment but if we could talk about that report first of all, you talked about this huge increase in the number of extreme fires. some of the number of extreme fires. some of the figures, up 30% by 2050 and then by the end of the century up 50%, talk us through what it is down to. we talk about climate change a lot but it isn'tjust that, is it? climate change does play a large role in that and some of the big heat we have had recently wouldn't have been possible without climate change and these are the things that dry out the conditions that promote wildfires and make them more intense but loud use plays a role as well, particularly in places where you have natural vegetation which might hold in more water which creates dumb and prevents wild fires spreading. when you start degrading them, chopping down forests, deforestation, that will also promote wildfire because the vegetation dries out, the trees dry out and we have more fires as a result so it's a mixture of the two, climate change and land change which causes wildfires. the climate change and land change which causes wildfires.— causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is obviously _ causes wildfires. the way we manage the landscapes is obviously so - the landscapes is obviously so important. in terms of what can be done more generally to prevent these fires, i don'tjust mean smaller fires, i don'tjust mean smaller fire breaks or whatever, but what needs to be done more generally to stop this sort of thing happening in areas where perhaps they haven't been vulnerable to wildfires previously?— been vulnerable to wildfires reviousl ? ., , ., previously? there are some small thins previously? there are some small things that _ previously? there are some small things that can — previously? there are some small things that can be _ previously? there are some small things that can be done. - previously? there are some small things that can be done. when - previously? there are some small things that can be done. when we previously? there are some small - things that can be done. when we are looking at some of these ecosystems that have been changed, looking at restoration which might help manage these fires, replanting with native or well—managed species, or restoring wetlands which might prevent some of these fires from spreading. but really we have also got to live with the fact these wildfires are going to become more prevalent so although there are things we can do to help reduce them, we are going to get more of them. so it is about planning around that, fire management plans beforehand, planning evacuation routes and helping communities rebuild after fires have occurred. i rebuild after fires have occurred. i talked about areas where you wouldn't quite expect it being vulnerable now. you talk about the arctic being vulnerable to fires in your report. arctic being vulnerable to fires in your report-— arctic being vulnerable to fires in our re ort. , . ., , your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the _ your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the arctic - your report. yes and we have seen some wildfires in the arctic in - some wildfires in the arctic in recent years. the problem with these places as they release a lot of carbon as well so that an excess about climate change which might also lead to more wildfires in the future. in the arctic in particular, the arctic is where temperatures rise much faster than the rest of the world so that is where wildfires become bigger because things can dry out there faster because of these temperature rises which promote wildfires. irate temperature rises which promote wildfires. ~ ., ~ temperature rises which promote wildfires. ~ . ,, ., ., ., wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play _ wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a - wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a bit - wildfires. we will talk about hawaii now, and i want to play a bit of - now, and i want to play a bit of what the governor from hawaii josh green has been saying. he talked about how extreme the wind was in the situation and perhaps it is a unique set of circumstances. let's listen to what he had to say, this is the governor. fire travelled one mile every minute, resulting in this tragedy. with those kind of winds and i,000—degree temperatures, ultimately all the pictures that you will see will be easy to understand because that level of destruction in a fire hurricane is something new to us, in this age of global warming, it was the ultimate reason that so many people perished. so he said that the fire travelled at a mile a minute. so he said that the fire travelled ata mile a minute. it so he said that the fire travelled at a mile a minute. it is extraordinary how fast it spread, isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there? the isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there?— isn't it? what is your assessment of what happened there? the wind has obviously made _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire is _ what happened there? the wind has obviously made the fire is much - obviously made the fire is much worse and make them travel fast and that's part of the reason why it was so hard to plan for and why it was so hard to plan for and why it was so hard to manage. but it's the dry conditions initially which got the fire is going to start with. so the winds blew the fires that were a curtain because of the extra dry conditions, so it was both together, the dry conditions and hurricane would have made this fire so devastating.— would have made this fire so devastating. would have made this fire so devastatina . ., devastating. even though the extreme situation was — devastating. even though the extreme situation was so _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad it _ devastating. even though the extreme situation was so bad it wouldn't - situation was so bad it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the conditions that were there already and climate change? it conditions that were there already and climate change?— conditions that were there already and climate change? it was the dry conditions and _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the winds _ and climate change? it was the dry conditions and the winds that - conditions and the winds that carried them.— conditions and the winds that carried them. ., ,, , ., ., ., carried them. thank you for 'oining us, carried them. thank you for 'oining docked — carried them. thank you for 'oining us, docked douglasfi carried them. thank you for 'oining us, docked douglas kelley. _ let's turn to india where landslides and flash floods have killed at least 49 people in the northern indian state of himachal pradesh. some of the deaths were in a temple destroyed in the state capital, shimla. rescuers are trying to free those still trapped under the debris. days of torrential downpours have washed away vehicles, demolished buildings and destroyed bridges. local officials have warned the population to stay at home with more heavy rainfall expected. we will have more on that later in the programme is to stay with us on bbc news. to the political crisis in west africa now. the military group which seized power in niger last month says it plans to prosecute the ousted president mohamed barzoum — for high treason — and for undermining the security of the country. president bazoum has been held in the basement of his palace since the military staged a coup about three weeks ago — toppling the democratically elected government. in a statement — an army spokesman said the authorities had been gathering evidence against him — and — his "local and foreign accomplices". i should point out, however, that no evidence was provided. translation: in any event, the government of niger hasi to date gathered the necessary evidence to prosecute the ousted president and his local and foreign accomplices before the national and international authorities for high treason and undermining the internal and external security of niger, following his exchanges with the nationals and foreign heads of state and the heads of international organisations. well, what evidence might the coup leaders have? and what should we make of their statement about "foreign accomplices" ? we asked our correspondent — nkechi ogbonna. the army spokesperson colonel abdramane had said they had been gathering evidence against the deposed leader and what they claimed were his local and foreign accomplices, although no evidence was provided to support these claims. but the junta says president bazoum and his accomplices could also be prosecuted for undermining the security of niger and its neighbours, including nigeria. this comes a few days after the military appointed minister had said that — general tchiani specifically said he was upset about how ecowas, the regional bloc, had gone about the negotiations and the sanctions imposed against them without giving them a listening ear. but he was open to negotiations and diplomatic talks with the regional bloc, also general tchiani had hinted last saturday that the coup was very intentional and it was done to stave off an imminent threat to the people of niger and its neighbours. that, as well, no evidence was provided to support this claim of an imminent threat, but we would wait to see as events unfold follwing the ecowas meeting that is happening monday to help to quell the political crisis. also the african union's peace and security council are meeting monday to also look for new interventions for the crisis in niger. we willjust wait to see how all those meetings will unfold and the resolutions that would come from this. if we remember just last week ecowas had said it was having a military intervention. it had activated and deployed military intervention on niger, should all political and diplomatic options fail at the table. but this new action by the militaryjunta in niger could also impede whatever these negotiations may have been, or the result that they would have provided. and just to add that in niger we are hearing reports of over 50 people who were arrested sunday afternoon. these were anti—coup protesters who were protesting for the reinstatement and release of course of president mohamed bazoum who is still being held by the militaryjunta in the presidential palace since he was ousted last month. the militaryjunta had earlier banned all forms of protest but had encouraged, permissions were given to those who were pro—coup supporters in the different rallies and protests we have seen that have happened in the last couple of days and weeks since the coup happened. these 5a people are currently being held and we have not received any further news on what the charges would be. but we will just wait to see how events unfold in niger. in nkechi ogbonna reporting there. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. police say two men who were stabbed in south london last night were the victims of a homophobic attack. a man in his 20s and another in his 30s were stabbed outside a nightclub in clapham. they have since been discharged from hospital. no arrests have been made. a five—year—old girl has suffered "significant" facial injuries after being attacked by a dog outside a corner shop. the attack happened in norton, stockton—on—tees, on saturday. cleveland police said the child was taken to hospital for treatment and a dog has been seized. the dogs owner remained at the scene after the attack. scotland's biggest teaching union says new recruits are leaving the profession because they aren't being offered secure jobs. the eis is urging the scottish government to increase councilfunding to pay for more permanentjobs. the scottish government says it's taking "strong action" to protect teacher numbers. you're live with bbc news. from driverless cars to sd printing — artificial intelligence has been transforming how we live. but could ai — one day — be capable of reading our minds? lara lewington has been investigating the potential risks — and benefits — of the ai revolution for the bbc�*s panorama. hi, lara. hi, good to meet you. thank you for having us. come on in. thanks very much. neuroscientist alexander huth has spent a decade trying to understand how the brain works. if we want to build intelligent machines, maybe we want to make things that act more like human brains. so that's kind of what got me into neuroscience. this year, his team had a breakthrough. using ai technology that can understand language, they've built a computer that can read minds. we scan people's brains with an fmri scanner while theyjust listen to stories. so we track how their brains respond while they're listening to hours and hours of stories. the team has trained the al on their own brains. as they listen to stories inside the scanner, the computer watches what happens. what sort of brain activity are you looking for? we're looking for brain activity that's related to specific ideas or specific words that appear in the stories. so, for example, whenever you hear somebody talk about parking a car, there are certain patterns of activity in the brain that will be present that reliably correspond to that kind of idea. and we're trying to build up that mapping from this very large dataset. the computer looks for patterns in the vast amounts of data from the scanner. with enough training, it can translate brain activity into words. so the lead scientist is listening to a story for us. the war of the worlds. the martians in the pit had turned the heat ray on. a deep, throbbing sound, a silver pencil of light... ..and a narrow ribbon of bracken and grass and trees and houses stretching as far as the eye could see was scorched. and this is the text that the ai created from the brain scan. in the decoded version, which misses a lot of things, but it gets some of the good stuff, fired the bullets out of the clip he had on him as he ran. and then i heard a huge crack as a large piece of concrete hit my forehead and then a giant ball of fire. the general idea of "big noise, got hurt" is there in both of them. yeah. and then also the idea that something was on fire, the scorched versus a giant ball of fire, it captured all those things, but clearly not exactly the right words. so far, it's only analysed the brains of a handful of volunteers who've all spent 16 hours being scanned. but they hope it'll unlock the secrets of how our minds work. we are really pushing on, and what a lot of our effort in the lab goes toward is using this to actually understand the brain better. that's our scientific goal. in the end, we want to know, how does the brain work? how do our brains process language? how do we understand ideas? how do we think? sounds great, but what happens if it ends up in the wrong hands? some people are scared or think that the thought police is coming. i think it's a fair reaction to this to say, like, this is scary, i don't want this to happen. that was kind of our reaction too, like, the first thing that we thought when we got this working was like, this is fantastic, it's working. and then like, oh my god, this is working. are the thought police coming? not yet. none of the current technologies that we have would be effective at actually policing people's thoughts. and lara joins us now. what do you think about this? how reasonable is it to expect that this will get there someday? it looked to be rudimentary at the moment, didn't it? , , ., ., , be rudimentary at the moment, didn't it? , ,,, it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting _ it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab _ it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab experiment, i it? yes, it is a really impressive and exciting lab experiment, a l it? yes, it is a really impressive - and exciting lab experiment, a proof of concept, but where is this going? but right now you have to have your brain scanned for 16 hours in an mri machine, and each individual needs their brain scanning because all of our brains work differently. they tried it on the end because my brain had been scanned it came up with nonsense and i promise i wasn't thinking of nonsense! the other thing is to actually do the mind reading you have to be in the mri reading you have to be in the mr! scanner so any kind of real—world scenario, be it a worrying one like you are in the street and somebody is just reading your you are in the street and somebody isjust reading your mind, or this possibly being used for medical purposes, for people that are struggling to speak for whatever reason which could be an amazing use for it, far away. these ideas are not things that are close. we would need to reach the point of some sort of wearable brain tracking device. they exist but they don't exist to the level of resolution that you would need to be able to replicate and mri scan. i would need to be able to replicate and mri scan-— and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the ve fact and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that h and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that people _ and mri scan. i suppose 'ust the very fact that people are _ and mri scan. i suppose just the very fact that people are trying l and mri scan. i suppose just the | very fact that people are trying to do this now will be unnerving to some people watching this right now, won't it? at}! some people watching this right now, won't it? .., , some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we _ some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we have - some people watching this right now, won't it?_ we have these i won't it? of course. we have these concerns every _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we _ won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we talk - won't it? of course. we have these concerns every time we talk about | concerns every time we talk about al. , ,., concerns every time we talk about al. , , ., , ., , ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and — ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is _ ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very - ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very easy - ai. yes, some people will find it unnerving and it is very easy to l unnerving and it is very easy to jump unnerving and it is very easy to jump to scary, fearful scenarios but the reality is this can't do anything scary right now. it's an interesting experiment in terms of what it can do and the scientist does hope it will be useful in a medical sense in the long term. but the programme that this feature is in, the panorama that it features income is very much about looking at what the existential risk means, what the existential risk means, what are the real risks out there and what are the real risks right now. i think people naturallyjump ahead to this future idea, even some sort of sci—fi scenario that will not happen of robots coming to life and taking over, when in fact there are real risks from al, there are important things that we should be considering even now in terms of bias and disinformation. or you set an end goalfor an ai bias and disinformation. or you set an end goalfor an a! system and unlike a human who knows what to avoid on the way to that it will just try and reach its goal with no consideration for anything else. so there are a lot of things to think about. there are a lot of positives and also a lot of negatives in terms of ai. but should we be worried about the thought police and our minds being read right now? i don't think so. ., ~ minds being read right now? i don't think so. ., ,, i. ., ., think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington- — think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and _ think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if _ think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you - think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you are - think so. 0k, thank you, lara lewington. and if you are in i think so. 0k, thank you, lara i lewington. and if you are in the think so. 0k, thank you, lara - lewington. and if you are in the uk you can watch the panorama programme. beyond human: artificial intelligence and us on bbc iplayer. we just have some news coming in from the uk government, raf typhoon jets were launched to intercept two long—range maritime patrol bombers this morning north of the shetland islands. they also say a voyager tanker was dispatched to provide air refuelling capability to extend the operational range of the typhoons. these raf typhoon jets were launched from raf lossiemouth in scotland it is one of the two uk quick reaction alert stations. there is a press release they sent out about this talking about how they transited north of the shetland islands within nato's northern air policing area. that is when these raf typhoon jets were launched. we will get more on that when we get it. but for the moment let's turn to poland where two russians accused of disseminating propaganda on behalf of the wagner mercenary group have been arrested and charged with espionage. just to remind you — the wagner group is a private military organisation led by yevgeny prigozhin. thousands of wagner mercenaries travelled to belarus — which borders poland — after the group's failed mutiny in june. straight to warsaw. adam easton is there. what more can you tell us about this? ~ . . ., ., ., , this? according to the polish security services _ this? according to the polish security services these - this? according to the polish security services these two l this? according to the polish i security services these two men this? according to the polish - security services these two men were arrested on friday after they pasted around 300 leaflets in public places in the city of krehl in the southern part of poland and also the capital warsaw which was promoting —— crack of. the wagner mercenary group and also providing a link to a recruitment website for the group. the polish security services say the men were being paid by moscow for those activities. ——krakow. up to $5,000 was mentioned. and as you say these men have been arrested and they have had charges of espionage which could mean if they were found guilty they would face up to ten years in prison. the polish security services so this is another example of what they call a hybrid attack against notjust poland but also nato and the eu. they said these men have been doing similar activities in berlin and paris in the past. the aim of this activity is to increase the sense of threat in nato. poland in particular, which is on the eastern flank of nato, of course. just briefly, poland is worried about wagner, isn't it? we have seen thousands of wagner troops in belarus and some of their training facilities are near the polish border. poland is very concerned, isn't it? it border. poland is very concerned, isn't it? , ., ~ isn't it? it is, and i think there has been _ isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a — isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a heightened - isn't it? it is, and i think there has been a heightened sense l isn't it? it is, and i think there. has been a heightened sense of insecurity in the polish society obviously since russia's invasion of ukraine and the massive wave of refugees from ukraine into poland. certainly the relocation of the wagner group is because the government to be particularly sensitive to their activities. they have said they were going to send an additional 10,000 troops to the border. they have talked about potentially closing the border, as has lithuania, and this is also in parallel of course with poland's upcoming parliamentary elections. it is promoting itself as the guarantor of polish security.— of polish security. thank you for that update. _ of polish security. thank you for that update, adam _ of polish security. thank you for that update, adam easton - of polish security. thank you for that update, adam easton in - of polish security. thank you for- that update, adam easton in warsaw. stay with us on bbc news. after half past we will hear about how one of the mums of the beatles was not impressed by the screaming fans at their concerts. stay with us. hello. hello. for some of us it has been a soggy start to the new working week with low pressure in charge of our weather. and this frontal system which has become quite slow moving across parts of northern england and north wales generating some very heavy bursts of rain. through the rest of the day it is north wales but perhaps more especially northern england and into the far south of scotland where we will see the wettest of the weather. there could well be enough rain to cause localised transport disruption, maybe a bit of flooding. quite windy across southern and eastern parts. sunshine and showers away from our main rain bands and temperatures generally in the low to mid 20s. as we head through tonight that rain will linger for a time across parts of eastern scotland and north—east england. i think much of it will pull away by the end of the night. one or two showers out west but the majority will be dry and clear, and not a cold night, 11—15 degrees. tomorrow the last vestiges of that rain will tend to clear from eastern scotland and north—east england and then it is a sunshine and showers day. some of the showers could be on the heavy side, but there will be some decent dry gaps in between and some spells of sunshine. temperature wise, we are looking at 19 degrees in aberdeen, 23 in norwich and in london. as we move out of tuesday and into wednesday, we start to see this quite weak area of high pressure building its way in. that will settle things down to some extent. underneath that high we could see some dense fog patches to start, particularly around western parts of england, wales and northern ireland. some of that fog taking a little while to clear, but it should do quite readily through the morning. then some sunny spells, a chance of one or two showers, but signs of something perhaps a bit warmer developing down towards the south—east. it looks like we will see some warmer weather later in the week. it is going to be quite a warm week generally across much of continental europe, and as we move through thursday and on into the start of friday we will start to develop a south easterly breeze, bringing some of that warmer air our way. butjust how warm it gets depends on the progress of this frontal system swinging in from the atlantic because that is going to bring cloud and some heavy rain northwards and eastwards. before that arrives, it looks like temperatures will, for some, get up into the middle 20s celsius but some very wet weather swinging its way eastward through friday and into the start of the weekend. this is bbc news, the headlines: the death toll in hawaii's devastating wildfires rises to 96. hundreds of people are still missing. the majority of health service cancer waiting time targets in england are expected to be scrapped. niger's coup leaders say they'll prosecute the toppled president for high treason. and how screaming beatles fans disgusted george harrison's mum. one of her letters revealing all goes under the hammer. sport, and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's will perry. chelsea have agreed a deal to sign brighton midfielder moises caicedo for a british record fee of £115 million. liverpool agreed a dealfour million shy of that figure for the 21—year—old on friday, but caicedo favoured chelsea, and they have finally succeeded with a bid after having a number of offers knocked back by brighton. caicedo will become chelsea's eighth signing of the summer. neymar�*s leaving paris saint—germain to join saudi pro—league club al—hilal. the fee is understood to be around 90 million euros plus add—ons. the transfer is subject to the brazilian completing a medical and all the necessary paperwork. it comes after it became clear neymar was not part of new coach luis enrique's plans for the new season.

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