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Local Authorities Say 80 of the Coastal Community is gone. From above, you can see even more of the broad stretch of destruction. Homes, businesses, cars have been destroyed. These pictures were about to show you will put all of that into perspective. These are before and after pictures from lahaina. At least 270 buildings entire neighbourhoods have been reduced to ash. The town was home to about 12,000 people. Lets Hearfrom One Man who made it to safety, but lost everything. I lose my home, all my papers too, everything. Thats only i can. I only have my wife, my son, and my car, i dont have time for the rest of my stuff. My passport or ids, anything. Fires like the one you see here consumed roads and exit points. Flames moved with such speed, that some tourists were forced to jump into the sea nearby and were left to tread water or cling to sea walls for long periods of time. Theyve been talking about their experience. The ocean almost sucked my kids away a few times. But yeah, here we are. We stuck together, we held on, thats, we are not going to die this way, no. But we are here, we are alive. The fires were at their most intense along the western coast of maui. But other areas have been affected. Authorities say the blaze around lahaina, is now about 80 contained. The pulehu fire, in the middle of the island, has been 70 contained. Officials are also keeping across a third fire, in upcountry maui. There are fires too on neigbouring big island. The governor of hawaii josh green has toured lahaina. He posted this update from what was the towns main road. Its extraordinary, it is tragically gone. We know that many people are suffering, the Fatality Numbers will climb somewhat today. Well have those numbers today. Everyone, love your neighbours, support them. Because this is devastating for my way. We probably have well over 1000 buildings that have been destroyed, many many hundreds of families have been displaced. In a matter of hours, us President Joe Biden approved the request for emergency support. In a statement, we also heard a little earlier from Vice President kamala harris. She was asked whether she or the president would visit maui heres her reply. We want to, obviously with most of these kinds of situations, do whatever is the best interest of the folks on the ground, we dont want to distract them from resources that need to go into the victims of this tragedy and of course the First Responders have to be able to focus on that issue and not worry about focusing on us. Thousands of locals have been forced to leave their homes. Queues of cars like these formed at the six Emergency Shelters set up across maui. At this location the war memorial you can see Air Mattresses have been donated. This was another Shelter Set Up it appears to be in a school hall. Locals have described losing their phone service, and being left without power. What you see here is a makeshift notice board, displaying offers of help and pleas for missing loved ones. A number of celebrities have homes on maui island, among them oprah winfrey. Shes been meeting residents, and helping with the relief effort. Its a little overwhelming you know. Its. But i, i am really so pleased to have so many people, you know, supporting, peoplejust bringing what they can. So i came earlierjust to see what people needed. And then went shopping because often, you know, you make donations of clothes or whatever, and its unbelievable to me. As we mentioned, the Island Of Maui is a popular tourist destination. Lahaina alone attracts two million visitors each year. More than 14,000 travellers moved to the local airport for evacuation. Many have been left to camp out in the terminal as they wait for a flight out. Some airlines have reduced the cost of flights, to help evacuees. One traveller described the scene he witnessed as he made his way to the airport. We left and we drove through. It looks like a war zone out there, really looks like somebody came along and just bombed the whole town. Its completely devastated, its burned down to the ground. It was. He sighs. We dont know what exactly sparked these particular fires. But lets look at what contributed to their spread and severity. Fires need three ingredients fuel like vegetation a spark, and winds to drive flames. Hawaiis been experiencing abnormally dry conditions. 14 of the state is in severe or moderate drought. Strong winds from hurricane dora, which passed the coast on tuesday, also helped fan flames. Maui itself was already under a Red Flag Alert high temperatures, low humidity and winds causing concerns about fire danger. Heres how one expert explained it. These conditions all lined up with sort of a classic fire weather situation. Itjust so happened that there was a technician during the high wind event, allowing a very fast spreading fire to burn into the community towards the coast. Haw community towards the coast. How Im Ortant Community towards the coast. How important warning community towards the coast. How important Warning Systems are for people and events like this, and he reports that in that one there were no alerts to the scissors sends for the flames. Citizens. No alerts to the scissors sends for the flames. Citizens. The flames. Citizens. What we know is that the flames. Citizens. What we know is that the the flames. Citizens. What we know is that the practice the flames. Citizens. What we know is that the practice in the flames. Citizens. What we know is that the practice in the i know is that the practice in the past and the early Warning Systems have been in place, some people responded. When it comes to preparedness and readiness with early Warning Systems. We work in many countries all over the world frequently hit by cyclones and hurricanes, floods and also sometimes wildfires. What we have learned is that talking about preparedness is one thing, the government being prepared and. What we are saying is government being prepared is one thing, and the Community Whether they are ready and prepared to something else. find prepared to something else. And whats the difference, whats the difference between governments and Community Preparedness . The difference between governments and Community Preparedness . Community preparedness . The most imortant Community Preparedness . The most important element Community Preparedness . The most important element is Community Preparedness . The most important element is everyone Community Preparedness . The most important element is everyone has l Community Preparedness . The most important element is everyone has a role to play when disaster is about to strike. It is absolutely important to have that mindset that safety comes first and press the warnings and and follow the instructions is equally important. We know it works very well in some places in some places it not so much. You can still have an Early Warning but that warning may not reach some Rural Communities and becomes more difficult. And so that is what, and our work for example, the programme by the public and the process, public in the past have been working with childrens in different parts of the world to prepare them for earthquakes, for hurricanes, and what we have learned is we can prepare them young and when they are young you ever one disaster, it will have an impact and how we saved lives and how we move people to safe places. So how we saved lives and how we move people to safe places. People to safe places. So talk to me a little bit about people to safe places. So talk to me a little bit about one can people to safe places. So talk to me a little bit about one can implementi a little bit about one can implement these kinds of measures so that next time Something Like this happens there is that element of being prepared whether its governmental or community. Its prepared whether its governmental or community or community. Its still a debate whether you or community. Its still a debate whether you can or community. Its still a debate whether you can stop or community. Its still a debate whether you can stop a or community. Its still a debate whether you can stop a storm i or community. Its still a debate i whether you can stop a storm from happening, cycling from happening, or avert forest fires. We can stop a disaster from or avert forest fires. We can stop a disasterfrom becoming or avert forest fires. We can stop a disaster from becoming a or avert forest fires. We can stop a disasterfrom becoming a crisis because we can save more lives through early Warning Systems. So what we have done is to understand what we have done is to understand what are the vulnerabilities in locations where people. For example it could be an area where floods are frequent if you look at we are getting for the floods, in the caribbean we are into the hurricane season. So the first thing is specific vulnerabilities and hazards. Preparing the communities and actually helping them to understand what would Early Warning look like and the other places we move them to safety it is important to recognise that people are children, and sometimes girls have a priority because they dont want such places to become locations where they get abused. So there are many factors we need to consider. That was Doctor Mooney Krishnan talking to me about whats happening in hawaii. As always you can go to the website if you want more information about the latest coming from the Island Of Maui and indeed other areas around hawaii. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. A scottish fugitive extradited from brazil has beenjailed for almost ten years for Serious Organised Crime and firearms offences. James white, originally from glasgow, pleaded guilty to money laundering, importing millions of pounds of drugs and possessing guns and explosives. He led one of scotlands most prolific organised crime groups. The 46 year old had been arrested in brazil, injune 2020 and was sent back to scotland last august. A Police Officer says he has made the devastating decision to leave Northern Ireland after accidental breaches of internal data revealed the identities of officers and staff. The Police Service of Northern Ireland mistakenly shared details about 10,000 of its employees on tuesday. Details of a second data breach from july then emerged. The officer said the data breach was the straw broke the camels back. The comedian, actor and former family fortunes presenter, les dennis is the 15th and final Celebrity Contestant to be announced for this years strictly come dancing. He willjoin others including former Tennis Player and broadcaster annabel croft, rip off youre live with bbc news. Being temporarily removed, thats because traces of Legionella Bacteria have been found in the barge � s water supply. Legionella can lead to a type of pneumonia called legionnaires disease. The government � s use of the barge has been controversial, mike easton now explains. The 39 migrants who were moved onto the barge in a blaze of publicity this week, are being quietly disembarked after Dangerous Levels of the beck purity were found in the vessel � s water system. Its only days since the Home Office Minister guaranteed the barge was safe. I absolutely assure you that this is a Safe Facility. In absolutely assure you that this is a Safe Facility Safe Facility. In a statement the Home Office Safe facility. In a statement the Home Office Said we we re we were told that health, safety, security and fire checks had all been carried out. To add to the government � s problems, the small boat migrants detected yesterday were 755 the highest daily total this year. It pushes the 2023 total two 5826 this year. It pushes the 2023 total two 5826 15,826. The this year. It pushes the 2023 total two 5826 15,826. The overall two 5826 15,826. The overall number since the home office started counting Channel Crossings in 2018 has now topped more than 100,000. 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Week was supposed to hanging their heads in shame. Tiiiiii week was supposed to show hanging their heads in shame. Week was supposed to show up ministers getting to grips with migration and asylum, instead a barge in Portland Harbour loaded with immigrants. Mark easton bbc news. First of all your reaction to this latest twist in surrounding the bb stockholm. ,. , stockholm. Entirely predictable outcome from this. Stockholm. Entirely predictable outcome from this. Has stockholm. Entirely predictable i outcome from this. Has already stockholm. Entirely predictable outcome from this. Has already been worn from the nhs, health england, significant disease risk. Using this barge to place people. I think it was almost inevitable that we would see something, not this quickly, but it really shows how the government has forced this route far too fast. They tried to make it a pr stunt for this week. Its ended up backfiring on them and potentially putting lives at risk. 50 on them and potentially putting lives at risk. Lives at risk. So what would you su est lives at risk. So what would you suggest as lives at risk. So what would you suggest as a lives at risk. So what would you suggest as a good lives at risk. So what would you suggest as a Good Alternative i lives at risk. So what would you i suggest as a Good Alternative that saves taxpayers money, because that is ultimately what the government is trying to do here. Is ultimately what the government is trying to do here trying to do here. Earlier this week the Minister Trying to do here. Earlier this week the minister of trying to do here. Earlier this week the minister of immigration trying to do here. Earlier this week the minister of immigration has. The minister of immigration has admitted that the government has deliberately almost deliberately allowed the backlog to increase. We still people still crossing despite delayed, so what they should be doing is processing those applications faster, which is a lot cheaper in the long run than priding accommodation for the people. There are many thousands accommodation for the people. There are many thousands of accommodation for the people. There are many thousands of migrants in this country that, here right now. We previously had local Community Supports schemes that worked with higher numbers of Asylum Seekers providing support within communities, providing accommodation with the community. We can bring those back, theyve been de financed effectively. They were much more effectively. They were much more effective and were a lot more humane, so we could bring those back which is a great way actually to bring up communities as well, it invests in communities for the cost of living crisis, so its a win win for everyone. Of living crisis, so its a winwin for everyone of living crisis, so its a winwin for everyone. 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Turf specific people, they need to first of all be making very sure theyve got Proper Health checks and are monitored carefully for any medical symptoms that come through. Theyve been placed in this position for a few days now so there is a serious risk as far as im aware. But they also have to do is make sure they are supported, proper accommodation, and get the support and protection they need. They cantjust be put back onto this barge. And this group in particular cant be put back onto the barge because imagine the fear and terror that they are going to face, havingjust and terror that they are going to face, having just been through this. Having their lives potentially put at risk. � ,. , having their lives potentially put at risk. � ~. ,. , at risk. And you know, ultimately, its a hugely at risk. And you know, ultimately, its a hugely political at risk. And you know, ultimately, its a hugely political issue at risk. And you know, ultimately, its a hugely political issue isnt i its a hugely political issue isnt it, in terms of what to do about Asylum Seekers in this country. Do you think that the answer lies particularly in the labour party what they want to do . I particularly in the labour party what they want to do . Particularly in the labour party what they want to do . I think both labour and what they want to do . I think both labour and conservative what they want to do . I think both labour and conservative are what they want to do . I think both labour and conservative are folks l labour and conservative are folks that think too much on exclusion. The uk ranks about 18th per head of population, for the number of Asylum Seekers that we take. Weve seen higher numbers as well previously, these are not by any means the higher numbers that weve seen. Protesting those applications processing allows applications faster. Have an Acceptance Rate of above 90 for asylum claims, afghans, syrians, humans. Rather than look at how many we can exclude, we process it faster because it actually takes more time to exclude people as well. Which then reduces costs and the burden on then reduces costs and the burden on the taxpayer for accommodation. fiifi the taxpayer for accommodation. 0k, daniel, its been good to talk to you and i think you for coming on and answering our questions this evening. While the main route is known as the Central Mediterranean route for the North African Cut Truths Like Tunisia and libya to italy. Give us more details on these figures. Itruiith more details on these figures. With these figures more details on these figures. With these figures show more details on these figures. Tn these figures show essentially as many more migrants have reached europe then this time last year. The number of people caught making irregular Border Crossings into the eu have never been this high since 2016. Now according to front text, many people are coming from guinea, from egypt and from the ivory coast, often fleeing persecution and war. What we have seen miriam is dangerous new trend of people using very small and very bad quality metal bolts and those boats often break during the journey and its very easy for them to capsize, and thatis very easy for them to capsize, and that is exactly what happened a couple of days ago when a boat carrying 45 people capsized because of a wave, and as a consequence 41 people died. But what front text is saying saying, in libya and tunisia there is fierce competition among, fierce competition between criminal groups and that means that people smugglers are offering much lower prices who people who want to make the journey. The Doctors Union is calling for a 35 pay rise, the government is offering 6 plus a lump sum which would take the increase to around 9 overall. Silence in this operating theatre today, like many others. At this leaving hospital trust, much of their planned surgery has been postponed because of the strike. Hi. Can i ask you. Elsewhere in the hospital, natalia, who is a matron, checks and patients, with anne, a consultant, helping with cover on the strike day. I have theatres that were cancelled today, that patients that were operated on yesterday were seen straightaway this morning. They are doing well. Although we have had to cancel a lot of our planned care, our a e is operating as normal. The trust boss says getting consultants to do extra shift isnt straightforward, and he is worried about the months ahead. This has been the most difficult strike to cover so far, and i think if we see this going on further, it will become more difficult to find the cover, and i think if we get into the real busyness of went with our emergency pathways, we could have a problem. No ifs, no buts with picket lines outside hospitals in england, the prospect of talks to resolve the dispute looks remote. But a 9 on average pay award, doesnt that show there is some mileage for you to sit down with the government . It is yet another real terms pay cut. It is not the start, in fact, it is a continuation of their policy to erode doctors pay and conditions. They did not rule out escalated action. The consultants and ourselves have been talking about and contemplating the idea ofjoint action, both simultaneous, but also on adjacent days. Ministers, though, say their pay offer is final. Of course, i stand ready to have discussions withJunior Doctors in terms of other issues about their working conditions, but in terms of pay, we made a fair and final offer, we have accepted in full the recommendations of the independent pay review body process, and that is why the bma should now call off their strikes. Margaret needed a new battery for her pacemaker. She had an appointment cancelled because of a previous strike, and because of ongoing action, she felt she had to go private. I have some sympathy, yes. But i dont really approve of it. But if they think thats the only thing they can do, and i mean, i wouldnt want to be a Junior Doctor and work the hours they do work. Junior doctors demonstrated outside downing street today, and with a ballot on further strikes and consultants planning more walk outs, this pay row is far from over. Hugh pym, bbc news. Heres one for those of you who love space exploration. Russia has launched its First Mission to the surface of the moon in nearly half a century. Have a look at this. The Unmanned Mission is called luna 25 and it lifted off from thr vos tochny cosmodrome in russias far east. The aim is to reach the moons south pole, which is believed to hold deposits of water. The Russian Mission is racing against india, which sent up its own lander last month that is already orbiting the moon. Russias space chief told Interfax The Lander is expected to touch down on 21 august a couple of days before indias spacecraft. Here, motorists on the a40 Dual Carriageway were surprised on thursday evening when a plane suddenly descended right into the middle of the road. The small aircraft is suspected to have suffered engine failure, prompting the pilot to make an an emergency landing. Amazingly, there were no collisions and no one was injured. Youre watching bbc news, im back in a minute, dont go anywhere. Hello. We had our brief spell of warmth in the last couple of days, and now that the weekend is here, of course, its turning a little cooler and more unsettled. But dont get me wrong, its not going to be awful. There will certainly be some fine weather around, some lengthy spells of sunshine, but quite a few showers around as well, brought by this area of low pressure just to the north west of us right now. And this is how its going to barrel across the uk during the course of the weekend, and the closer you are to the centre of this low pressure, the more frequent the showers will be. So, through the course of this evening and overnight, showers, quite frequent ones spreading into Northern Ireland by the morning, western scotland, perhaps the irish sea, wales, maybe the south, too, whereas many central and eastern parts of the uk should wake up to a bright, if not sunny, weather saturday morning with temperatures around 15 16 degrees. So a pleasant start to the day. And heres saturday itself quite brisk winds around western coasts with these Atlantic Winds and a mixture of sunshine and showers. Some of them could be heavy, could be a crack of thunder, most lengthy spells of sunshine, i think, in the south. And this pattern will continue into sunday as well. So, again, the closer are to the centre of the low, the more frequent the showers will be and generally out towards the west, too. So london, norwich, hull probably faring best with fine weather, some spots could actually get away with a completely dry weekend. Now, lets have a look at monday. The low pressures still with us, but it is fizzling away. Still have a Weather Front here, so that does mean that across east anglia and the southeast for a time on monday, it could be in the morning or lasting into the afternoon. Difficult to say, but some cloud and rain certainly in the forecast. Showers could break out also across scotland, but many areas towards the west actually fine weather to start the week. Now, lets talk about the jet stream. Its still over us. Its been over us more or less all summer and at leastjuly into august. So this is where it will roughly be through the week, deflecting any heat coming our way from the south eastwards. But it could come close to the south later next week, so temperatures could rise. In fact, there is a hint if you keep checking the apps, youll notice that as you go beyond wednesday, thursday into friday, the temperatures keep rising and the weather turns a little bit drier and brighter. Bye bye. This is bbc news. The worst wildfires hawaii has ever seen more than people have been killed on the island valley. Joe bidens son hunter is to be investigated with digital powers. A Norwegian Mountaineer denies accusations that her team climbed over an injured guide during a bid to break a world record. Lets return to our top story. At least 55 people are now known to have been killed by wildfires in hawaii, with thousands more still unaccounted for. Hawaii is no stranger to wildfires, but those of the past few days are being called some of the worst in its history. The bbc� s Azadeh Moshiri explains whats causing them. Wildfires used to be uncommon in hawaii. They were largely caused by Lightning Strikes or volcanic eruptions. But in recent decades, Human Activity has made the more common and extreme. We dont know what caused these wildfires. We