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when the humble wordsmith finds the gears and circuits have grasped the ineffable spirit of the tale with a keener hand than their own? we'll be joined by the author who discovered her name was being taken in vain when fake books generated by ai were selling on amazon. good evening. the government plan to focus attention this week on their efforts to reduce illegal migration, particularly what they regard as success reducing small boat crossings, has threatened to have been blown off course by, well, for one, the deputy chairman of the conservative party, lee anderson, who claimed that the government had failed to tackle illegal immigration. now, the prime ministerfaces more trouble from within, with cabinet ministers, perhaps as many as eight, calling for a uk departure from the european convention on human rights to be put front and centre of the next election if the supreme court rules that migrant deportation flights to rwanda are indeed illegal. and robertjenrick, the immigration minister, who had chastised the above lee anderson, has himself this week contributed to some confusion over exactly where the government stands on where to house migrants. we always house people in decent, legally compliant accommodation, but it's not right that people can pick and choose and expect to be put up in four—star hotels, and that's the change that we are bringing about. the problem for the immigration minister is that the government has contracted some four—star hotels for exactly that purpose. the transformation of one, the stradey park hotel in the suburbs of llanelli in south wales, from wedding destination and spa into what will become a hostel for more than 200 migrants has sparked furious protests amongst locals, many of whom believe it will hit the economy in the town. here's yasminara. a steel town in south—west wales with a famous rugby club and now in the news for very different reasons. residents are angry at a plan to house hundreds of asylum seekers at a four—star spa hotel in the village of furnace, on the edge of llanelli. they've sacked 100 people who two months ago were buying a house, buying a car, planning holidays. i know one who was planning a wedding. he's absolutely devastated. you know, it was... they had good jobs there. they weren't poorly paid and they thought it was forever. this is the only four—star hotel in the area for miles around. people have come from miles around. we had somebody from belgium turning up about a week ago. they'd booked a hotel room here and dinner and nobody had informed them that the hotel was shut. it's absolutely crazy. the decision to turn the stradey park spa hotel into an asylum hostel came as a shock to locals, especially as all 96 staff were told they would lose theirjobs. it has caused real anger within the town. a lot of criticism has been directed at the home office and some at the asylum seekers. the welsh people and the british people do not want this. we can't take it as a country. it needs to stop. they need to stop the boats coming over. they need to get off their backsides and sort out all the immigration problems. they've caused this problem, the home office, and instead of dealing with it, they're shoving them off further and further away from london. there's no plan with the home office at all. they don't seem to be thinking further ahead than paying these companies massive amount of money to put them in hotels. a public meeting involving the town's mp and other local politicians was attended by 400 people and an action group was formed. robert lloyd is one of its leading members. stradey park hotel was a real asset to llanelli and to carmarthenshire as a whole, because this is an area where we're trying to actually increase our tourism potential and tourism economy. it served everybody from the local racecourse to the rugby club to tourists in and out every day, golfers and so on. it was a real profit—making business. the protest outside the hotel's narrow access road led to a court case from the hotel owners seeking an injunction against the protesters, and the furnace action group started their own investigation into the contracts, including looking at clear springs, who are the contractors for the home office and responsible for finding accommodation for asylum seekers. it's staggering, to be honest with you, because clear springs ready homes hold a ten—year contract for providing asylum seeker accommodation in wales and that is worth in excess of £340 million over a ten—year period, and now, of course, they're taking a hotel which was running at occupancy rate about 70%, and now they'll have more than 100% occupancy all day because they're going to put 241 asylum seekers in 76 rooms, so sometimes three or four people on bunk beds in individual rooms. so basically, it's times three in terms of hotel accommodation and they're going to lose their staff costs, of course, as well. the business model — could you see this being repeated? we know of hotels that have been approached further west in tenby, pembroke dock, milford haven, and they've been approached to do similar schemes. so this isn't just a flat problem. ——this isn'tjust a llanelli problem. this is going to be a problem for the rest of wales as well. and quite honestly, i'm disgusted with the home office losing theirjobs and a business central to the community. the local labour mp says that the companies have ignored her request to discuss the situation, even when she travelled to london and essex, where the investment fund who own the hotel are based. clearly they must have made a calculation that they're going to make more money than in this very successful business that they had here already. now, that's a disgrace, because that's money that you and i, as taxpayers, are paying and the home office is clearly paying over the odds because it is so incompetent. it's incompetent in the fact that it's having to look for more hotel space because it hasn't got the backlog of asylum seekers down. it's clearly incompetent in the way that it's going about the process. it's completely ignored local politicians, the welsh government, the local county council, and as for the community, they feel totally, totally disenfranchised by the home office. campaigners have told us that much of the features that make the hotel a luxury spa have been taken out and that bunk beds have been brought in. they fear the stradey park will never be returned to its function as a hotel for paying guests and a source of local employment. the rooms will have been stripped out. from what i gather, even simple things like hairdryers and so on have gone. lots of kitchen equipment and so on. i hear this argument sometimes when people say, oh, it's all right, the asylum seekers, they're going to be in a four—star hotel. i mean, there's nothing further from the truth, unfortunately. they're going to be on bunk beds, sometimes four to a room. they're going to be sharing a toilet. the home office's urgent requirement for tens of thousands of beds to accommodate those seeking asylum is, of course, a massive issue. but with the loss of 96 jobs and a popular local business, it has left people in llanelli wondering whether there isn't a better way to meet the government's needs. yasminara there. in a statement, clear springs, the contractor employed by the government to find housing for asylum seekers, told us... "the home office and clearsprings ready homes acknowledge there are strong concerns from the local community over the use of the hotel. we will continue to work closely with local partners on the phased movement of asylum seekers into the hotel. all asylum seekers accommodated in stradey park have been security screened, with their identities recorded prior to arrival at the hotel." the home office told us... "the number of people arriving in the uk who require accommodation has reached record levels and has put our asylum system under incredible strain. the home office is committed to making every effort to reduce hotel use and limit the burden on the taxpayer." newsnight also contacted the hotel owners, stirling woodrow, for comment, but they didn't respond. we're joined now to discuss this by henry hill, deputy editor of conservative home, by the former government advisor charlie rowley and down the line by steve smith, the chief executive of care for calais. thank of care for calais. you all forjoining us. first of thank you all forjoining us. first of all, henry, they form a of migration week. the home office line is the use of hotels is not acceptable. the immigration minister concurred there earlier, saying a—star hotels were out of the question. sojust how a—star hotels were out of the question. so just how much of a failure as this? it question. so just how much of a failure as this?— failure as this? it is comprehensive. - failure as this? it isj comprehensive. we failure as this? it is - comprehensive. we heard failure as this? it is _ comprehensive. we heard them failure as this? it 3 comprehensive. we heard them say they need to find alternative accommodation. they need to build alternative accommodation. 0ne accommodation. they need to build alternative accommodation. one of this scrambling for hotels and barges on military bases and the rest of it is a consequence of the failure to build a purpose—built asylum estate. the home of the failure to build a purpose—built asylum estate. the home office could have done these with this years ago. it would have been secure at micro nightingale hospitals will put up very quickly, and you could have kit homes, but they need to find land. you need to find land, and mps don't want it in their constituency. the failure to do that means we are now paying these eye watering sums and ending up with lots of little detention centres in the hearts of communities.— communities. what do you think number 10 _ communities. what do you think number 10 will— communities. what do you think number 10 will say _ communities. what do you think number 10 will say about - communities. what do you think number 10 will say about the . communities. what do you think i number 10 will say about the optics of all this? it number 10 will say about the optics of all this? , . ' number 10 will say about the optics of all this? , . , , �* of all this? it is awful, isn't it came? why _ of all this? it is awful, isn't it came? why have _ of all this? it is awful, isn't it came? why have small - of all this? it is awful, isn't it came? why have small boats of all this? it is awful, isn't it. came? why have small boats we of all this? it is awful, isn't it - came? why have small boats we have so little to show for it, but when you have all these terrible stories coming in... you have all these terrible stories coming inm— coming in... there has been a shooting _ coming in... there has been a shooting in — coming in... there has been a shooting in the _ coming in... there has been a shooting in the foot, - coming in... there has been a shooting in the foot, robert i coming in... there has been a l shooting in the foot, robert jan shooting in the foot, robert jan rick saying no a—star hotels, lee anderson saying immigration policy is failing. —— robertjenrick. yes, and we passed the 100,000 mark, so it is comprehensively... it is like a mirror image, how not to do a media week. 100,000 migrants and record small boats began in 2018. since those records, they didn't all come in small boats, but according to government figures, is there any indication that the government's hardened stance is deterring would—be migrants? we hardened stance is deterring would-be migrants?- hardened stance is deterring would-be migrants? hardened stance is deterring would-be miarants? ~ , , ., would-be migrants? we see loads of as lum would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers _ would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers day _ would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers day in, _ would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers day in, day - would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers day in, day out, - would-be migrants? we see loads of asylum seekers day in, day out, of l asylum seekers day in, day out, of course, _ asylum seekers day in, day out, of course, because we were giving humanitarian aid across hundreds of hotels _ humanitarian aid across hundreds of hotels to— humanitarian aid across hundreds of hotels to thousands of asylum seekers — hotels to thousands of asylum seekers day in and day out. for people — seekers day in and day out. for people who have been through the worsl— people who have been through the worst experiences of their lives, kidnap, — worst experiences of their lives, kidnap, torture, rape, violence, war, _ kidnap, torture, rape, violence, war, persecution, something like whether— war, persecution, something like whether or— war, persecution, something like whether or not they go into a barge or a 4-star— whether or not they go into a barge or a 4—star hotel or a two star hotel. — or a 4—star hotel or a two star hotel, that's not going to make any difference — hotel, that's not going to make any difference. what they are doing is trying _ difference. what they are doing is trying to— difference. what they are doing is trying to find safety. they are trying — trying to find safety. they are trying to _ trying to find safety. they are trying to re—establish their lives. they— trying to re—establish their lives. they want— trying to re—establish their lives. they want to get back to being with their families, to working, to contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair. — contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair. to _ contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair, to say, _ contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair, to say, not _ contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair, to say, not all - contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair, to say, not all are - contributing to a society. i mean, to be fair, to say, not all are in i to be fair, to say, not all are in the same position as that. there will be migrants who will be returned. but coming to you, charlie rowley, how important is it the government gets a grip of this, given that this is, as it were small boats week? hugely important, because as you say, it— hugely important, because as you say, it is— hugely important, because as you say, it is one _ hugely important, because as you say. it is one of— hugely important, because as you say, it is one of the _ hugely important, because as you say, it is one of the prime - say, it is one of the prime minister's _ say, it is one of the prime minister's top _ say, it is one of the prime minister's top five - say, it is one of the prime . minister's top five priorities. say, it is one of the prime - minister's top five priorities. it is the — minister's top five priorities. it is the fifth _ minister's top five priorities. it is the fifth one. _ minister's top five priorities. it is the fifth one. stop _ minister's top five priorities. it is the fifth one. stop the - minister's top five priorities. iti is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting — is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting waiting _ is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting waiting lists _ is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting waiting lists in - is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting waiting lists in the - is the fifth one. stop the boats, cutting waiting lists in the nhs.j cutting waiting lists in the nhs. and we — cutting waiting lists in the nhs. and we are _ cutting waiting lists in the nhs. and we are seeing _ cutting waiting lists in the nhs. and we are seeing this- cutting waiting lists in the nhs. and we are seeing this is- cutting waiting lists in the nhs. - and we are seeing this is something that has— and we are seeing this is something that has been— that has been failed for years. successive _ that has been failed for years. successive governments - that has been failed for years. successive governments and i that has been failed for years. - successive governments and home secretaries — successive governments and home secretaries have _ successive governments and home secretaries have not— successive governments and home secretaries have not been- successive governments and home secretaries have not been able... l secretaries have not been able... no, we _ secretaries have not been able... no, we are — secretaries have not been able... no, we are talking _ secretaries have not been able... no, we are talking about- secretaries have not been able... no, we are talking about quite i secretaries have not been able... no, we are talking about quite ai no, we are talking about quite a long period in government this time round, since 2010. and the problem has only grown. we have seen— and the problem has only grown. we have seen more _ and the problem has only grown. we have seen more people _ and the problem has only grown. we have seen more people cross- and the problem has only grown. we have seen more people cross the - have seen more people cross the channel— have seen more people cross the channel illegally, _ have seen more people cross the channel illegally, more _ have seen more people cross the channel illegally, more people i have seen more people cross the - channel illegally, more people make that illegal— channel illegally, more people make that illegal crossing, _ channel illegally, more people make that illegal crossing, and _ channel illegally, more people make that illegal crossing, and it- channel illegally, more people make that illegal crossing, and it is- that illegal crossing, and it is having — that illegal crossing, and it is having an _ that illegal crossing, and it is having an impact, _ that illegal crossing, and it is having an impact, whether. that illegal crossing, and it is having an impact, whether inj having an impact, whether in portland _ having an impact, whether in portland in— having an impact, whether in portland in dorset— having an impact, whether in portland in dorset or- having an impact, whether in| portland in dorset or whether having an impact, whether in. portland in dorset or whether in wales, — portland in dorset or whether in wales, we — portland in dorset or whether in wales, we are _ portland in dorset or whether in wales, we are seeing _ portland in dorset or whether in i wales, we are seeing communities facing _ wales, we are seeing communities facing the — wales, we are seeing communities facing the burden— wales, we are seeing communities facing the burden of— wales, we are seeing communities facing the burden of having - wales, we are seeing communities facing the burden of having to - wales, we are seeing communities facing the burden of having to dealj facing the burden of having to deal with numbers _ facing the burden of having to deal with numbers of— facing the burden of having to deal with numbers of people _ facing the burden of having to deal with numbers of people coming. facing the burden of having to deal. with numbers of people coming into this country— with numbers of people coming into this country illegally, _ with numbers of people coming into this country illegally, which - with numbers of people coming into this country illegally, which is- with numbers of people coming into this country illegally, which is the l this country illegally, which is the first point, — this country illegally, which is the first point, and _ this country illegally, which is the first point, and so— this country illegally, which is the first point, and so you _ this country illegally, which is the first point, and so you have - this country illegally, which is the first point, and so you have to - this country illegally, which is the i first point, and so you have to make sure you _ first point, and so you have to make sure you have — first point, and so you have to make sure you have a _ first point, and so you have to make sure you have a system _ first point, and so you have to make sure you have a system in _ first point, and so you have to make sure you have a system in place - sure you have a system in place where _ sure you have a system in place where you — sure you have a system in place where you process _ sure you have a system in place where you process those, - sure you have a system in place where you process those, as . sure you have a system in place i where you process those, as steve was just _ where you process those, as steve was just saying. _ where you process those, as steve was just saying, that _ where you process those, as steve wasjust saying, that have - where you process those, as steve wasjust saying, that have an- wasjust saying, that have an absolute _ wasjust saying, that have an absolute genuine _ wasjust saying, that have an absolute genuine need - wasjust saying, that have an absolute genuine need to- wasjust saying, that have an. absolute genuine need to come wasjust saying, that have an- absolute genuine need to come here for asylum _ absolute genuine need to come here for asylum and — absolute genuine need to come here for asylum and those _ absolute genuine need to come here for asylum and those that _ absolute genuine need to come here for asylum and those that are - absolute genuine need to come herel for asylum and those that are coming into the _ for asylum and those that are coming into the country— for asylum and those that are coming into the country illegally, _ for asylum and those that are coming into the country illegally, he - for asylum and those that are coming into the country illegally, he are - into the country illegally, he are economic— into the country illegally, he are economic migrants, _ into the country illegally, he are economic migrants, who - into the country illegally, he are economic migrants, who should| into the country illegally, he are . economic migrants, who should be deported _ economic migrants, who should be deported to— economic migrants, who should be deported to rwanda. _ deported to rwanda. and _ deported to rwanda. and what _ deported to rwanda. and what the - deported to rwanda. and what the local. deported to rwanda. - and what the local leader of deported to rwanda. _ and what the local leader of the protesters were saying there is that there may be a a—star hotel now, but when the migrants going to be, it will not feel like one, and this is not the only one. —— in the migrants go into it. if it is not suitable, and they face such hostility from the local community, is it a good idea just to pause now and say, look, this can't happen? what the government has done is, for the first— what the government has done is, for the first time, — what the government has done is, for the first time, try _ what the government has done is, for the first time, try to _ what the government has done is, for the first time, try to tackle _ what the government has done is, for the first time, try to tackle the - the first time, try to tackle the situation, _ the first time, try to tackle the situation, so— the first time, try to tackle the situation, so it— the first time, try to tackle the situation, so it is— the first time, try to tackle the situation, so it is not— the first time, try to tackle the situation, so it is not right - the first time, try to tackle the situation, so it is not right and| situation, so it is not right and not sustainable _ situation, so it is not right and not sustainable to _ situation, so it is not right and not sustainable to have - situation, so it is not right and| not sustainable to have people housed — not sustainable to have people housed in _ not sustainable to have people housed in hotels, _ not sustainable to have people housed in hotels, whether- not sustainable to have people housed in hotels, whether in. housed in hotels, whether in llanelli — housed in hotels, whether in llanelli or— housed in hotels, whether in llanelli or portland - housed in hotels, whether in llanelli or portland or- housed in hotels, whether in. llanelli or portland or anywhere else across _ llanelli or portland or anywhere else across the _ llanelli or portland or anywhere else across the country. - llanelli or portland or anywhere else across the country. so - llanelli or portland or anywhere else across the country. so that llanelli or portland or anywhere . else across the country. so that is something — else across the country. so that is something we _ else across the country. so that is something we currently— else across the country. so that is something we currently have - else across the country. so that is something we currently have to i else across the country. so that is . something we currently have to deal with _ something we currently have to deal with you _ something we currently have to deal with you have — something we currently have to deal with. you have to _ something we currently have to deal with. you have to process— something we currently have to deal with. you have to process those - with. you have to process those people. — with. you have to process those people. beat— with. you have to process those people, beat that _ with. you have to process those people, beat that back- with. you have to process those people, beat that back like - with. you have to process those people, beat that back like a . with. you have to process those i people, beat that back like a man have _ people, beat that back like a man have schemes _ people, beat that back like a man have schemes and _ people, beat that back like a man have schemes and plays - people, beat that back like a man have schemes and plays like - people, beat that back like a man have schemes and plays like a - people, beat that back like a man - have schemes and plays like a wonder to deport— have schemes and plays like a wonder to deport people — have schemes and plays like a wonder to deport people and _ have schemes and plays like a wonder to deport people and ultimately - to deport people and ultimately bring _ to deport people and ultimately bring the — to deport people and ultimately bring the numbers— to deport people and ultimately bring the numbers of— to deport people and ultimately bring the numbers of people . to deport people and ultimately - bring the numbers of people coming into this _ bring the numbers of people coming into this country _ bring the numbers of people coming into this country down. _ into this country down. coming _ into this country down. coming back— into this country down. coming back to - into this country down. coming back to you - into this country down. coming back to you on| into this country down. - coming back to you on that point about hostility, not from all local residents, let's be quite clear, but people who have perfectly legitimate concerns, what would the impact of that be, the danger of that, if you have a danger of a flashpoint in a small community?— have a danger of a flashpoint in a small community? there are often flash oints small community? there are often flashpoints in _ small community? there are often flashpoints in small— small community? there are often flashpoints in small communities. | flashpoints in small communities. we saw— flashpoints in small communities. we saw flashpoints in knowsley near liverpool— we saw flashpoints in knowsley near liverpool in — we saw flashpoints in knowsley near liverpool in a few months back. but there _ liverpool in a few months back. but there is _ liverpool in a few months back. but there is a _ liverpool in a few months back. but there is a demonisation of asylum seekers— there is a demonisation of asylum seekers at— there is a demonisation of asylum seekers at the moment, even calling them _ seekers at the moment, even calling them illegal migrants, whereas most of them _ them illegal migrants, whereas most of them are actually... welcome a 75% is— of them are actually... welcome a 75% is the — of them are actually... welcome a 75% is the average of those having their asylum claims approved to get fullm _ full... to- full... to be fair, fuu... - to be fair, we fuu... — to be fair, we have a lot of albanians here who, to all intents and purposes, don't have a good reason to be here. i think that is a common myth, certainly. — i think that is a common myth, certainly, but in the first three months — certainly, but in the first three months of— certainly, but in the first three months of this year, albanians made up months of this year, albanians made up only— months of this year, albanians made up only i%_ months of this year, albanians made up only 1% of those coming through. that's_ up only 1% of those coming through. that's come — up only 1% of those coming through. that's come onto the other position here, with a possible cabinet decision that they were revolt if the supreme court decides that, yes, rewind and deportation flights are illegal, and there is talk of cabinet ministers saying one of the planks of the election will have to be the removal from the european convention. it's not likely, for a couple of reasons. one, ithink it's not likely, for a couple of reasons. one, i think of the government expects to win the appeal to the supreme court on the rwanda policy. the ruling by the supreme court was on technical grounds, and the grounds that the scheme is legal but they were worried about rwanda, so rwanda can presumably come into compliance. it may be that the government goes into the election on it, but i expect this to be an issue that comes up in opposition. this will be a real problem, squaring the need of having an effective border policy with the fact that in so many ways, the echr commitments make them very difficult. share ways, the echr commitments make them ve difficult. �* , ., , ways, the echr commitments make them ve difficult. �* , . , ., very difficult. are they angry at, as it were. _ very difficult. are they angry at, as it were, they _ very difficult. are they angry at, as it were, they might _ very difficult. are they angry at, as it were, they might see - very difficult. are they angry at, as it were, they might see the l as it were, they might see the rwanda blockade, or are they angry a perceived government incompetence over this? it perceived government incompetence overthis? it is perceived government incompetence overthis? , , ., perceived government incompetence overthis? , ., over this? it is very hard to disentangle _ over this? it is very hard to disentangle them. - over this? it is very hard to disentangle them. there i over this? it is very hard to disentangle them. there isj over this? it is very hard to - disentangle them. there is anger at thejudges and the disentangle them. there is anger at the judges and the sense that the government can't govern even when it is trying, and that things get jammed up, but ultimately, this is not about the courts. the courts did not about the courts. the courts did not stop the home office building a proper detention estate. that was the home office. the courts did not lead to understaffing of the home office processing facilities, that was the home office and government's decision. it seems to be that you are in agreement about detention estate? yes, i think you need the facilities to make _ yes, i think you need the facilities to make sure _ yes, i think you need the facilities to make sure you _ yes, i think you need the facilities to make sure you are _ yes, i think you need the facilities to make sure you are housing... l to make sure you are housing... let to make sure you are housing... let me — to make sure you are housing... let me ask— to make sure you are housing... let me ask you _ to make sure you are housing... let me ask you that, _ to make sure you are housing... let me ask you that, steve. - to make sure you are housing... let me ask you that, steve. is l to make sure you are housing... l let me ask you that, steve. is the best way of dealing with this to build reasonably sized detention estates with facilities, with schools, a doctor's surgery, with a community hub? is that what has to be done, as if this was almost like what ymon had to be done incredibly quickly? i don't see how that helps any of it, i don't see how that helps any of it. quite — i don't see how that helps any of it, quite frankly. if 75% of those coming — it, quite frankly. if 75% of those coming to — it, quite frankly. if 75% of those coming to a deemed proper refugees and granted asylum status, you want them _ and granted asylum status, you want them to— and granted asylum status, you want them to integrate into the community as quickly— them to integrate into the community as quickly as possible to start working _ working. but the point is that this working. — but the point is that this process as we see is incredibly slow, so would it be better to have that than what is happening just now? how quick do you think it would be to build _ how quick do you think it would be to build that sort of estate? in any case: _ to build that sort of estate? in any case, it— to build that sort of estate? in any case, it becomes virtually a concentration camp. i think it's an absolutely— concentration camp. i think it's an absolutely appalling idea. the thing to do is— absolutely appalling idea. the thing to do is to _ absolutely appalling idea. the thing to do is to speed up the asylum process— to do is to speed up the asylum process so— to do is to speed up the asylum process so there is not a backlog of 100,000 _ process so there is not a backlog of 100,000 people in the system. what _ 100,000 people in the system. what about that, if it becomes like a concentration camp in iraq would people be allowed to come and go as they please?— they please? probably not. i think they please? probably not. | think that _ they please? probably not. i think that is _ they please? probably not. i think that is a _ they please? probably not. i think that is a bit - they please? probably not. i think that is a bit strong, | they please? probably not. l i think that is a bit strong, if they please? probably not. - i think that is a bit strong, if you asked _ i think that is a bit strong, if you asked me. — i think that is a bit strong, if you asked me, because— i think that is a bit strong, if you asked me, because as _ i think that is a bit strong, if you asked me, because as you - i think that is a bit strong, if you asked me, because as you said, | i think that is a bit strong, if you i asked me, because as you said, we built the _ asked me, because as you said, we built the nightingale _ asked me, because as you said, we built the nightingale hospitals - built the nightingale hospitals quickly— built the nightingale hospitals quickly to— built the nightingale hospitals quickly to make _ built the nightingale hospitals quickly to make sure - built the nightingale hospitals quickly to make sure we - built the nightingale hospitals quickly to make sure we had l built the nightingale hospitals . quickly to make sure we had the medical— quickly to make sure we had the medical facilities— quickly to make sure we had the medical facilities we _ quickly to make sure we had the medical facilities we needed - quickly to make sure we had the medical facilities we needed to. medical facilities we needed to tackle — medical facilities we needed to tackle covid. _ medical facilities we needed to tackle covid. i— medical facilities we needed to tackle covid. i think— medical facilities we needed to tackle covid. i think what - medical facilities we needed to i tackle covid. i think what people want _ tackle covid. i think what people want in — tackle covid. i think what people want in this— tackle covid. i think what people want in this country— tackle covid. i think what people want in this country is _ tackle covid. i think what people want in this country is just - want in this country isjust fairness _ want in this country isjust fairness. that's _ want in this country isjust fairness. that's all- want in this country isjust fairness. that's all it - want in this country isjust fairness. that's all it is. l want in this country is just - fairness. that's all it is. people will integrate _ fairness. that's all it is. people will integrate and _ fairness. that's all it is. people will integrate and communitiesj fairness. that's all it is. people - will integrate and communities will welcome _ will integrate and communities will welcome jen — will integrate and communities will welcome jen were _ will integrate and communities will welcome jen were genuine - will integrate and communities will welcome jen were genuine asyluml welcome jen were genuine asylum seekers— welcome jen were genuine asylum seekers and — welcome jen were genuine asylum seekers and migrants _ welcome jen were genuine asylum seekers and migrants coming - welcome jen were genuine asylum seekers and migrants coming into| seekers and migrants coming into this country. _ seekers and migrants coming into this country, fleeing _ seekers and migrants coming into this country, fleeing terror- seekers and migrants coming into this country, fleeing terror and i this country, fleeing terror and conflict — this country, fleeing terror and conflict. that _ this country, fleeing terror and conflict. that is _ this country, fleeing terror and conflict. that is part— this country, fleeing terror and conflict. that is part of- this country, fleeing terror and conflict. that is part of our- this country, fleeing terror andi conflict. that is part of our dna this country, fleeing terror and - conflict. that is part of our dna as a british— conflict. that is part of our dna as a british society. _ conflict. that is part of our dna as a british society. but _ conflict. that is part of our dna as a british society. but people - conflict. that is part of our dna as a british society. but people don't| a british society. but people don't want, _ a british society. but people don't want. and — a british society. but people don't want. and i— a british society. but people don't want, and i think— a british society. but people don't want, and i think the _ a british society. but people don't want, and i think the reason- a british society. but people don't . want, and i think the reason albania is such— want, and i think the reason albania is such an _ want, and i think the reason albania is such an issue, _ want, and i think the reason albania is such an issue, is— want, and i think the reason albania is such an issue, is we _ want, and i think the reason albania is such an issue, is we have - want, and i think the reason albania is such an issue, is we have an- is such an issue, is we have an agreement— is such an issue, is we have an agreement with _ is such an issue, is we have an agreement with albania - is such an issue, is we have an agreement with albania to - is such an issue, is we have an. agreement with albania to deport people _ agreement with albania to deport people back— agreement with albania to deport people back to— agreement with albania to deport people back to albania _ agreement with albania to deport people back to albania who - agreement with albania to deport - people back to albania who shouldn't be here _ people back to albania who shouldn't be here in_ people back to albania who shouldn't be here in the— people back to albania who shouldn't be here in the first _ people back to albania who shouldn't be here in the first place _ people back to albania who shouldn't be here in the first place because - be here in the first place because they are — be here in the first place because they are economic— be here in the first place because they are economic migrants, - be here in the first place because they are economic migrants, not| they are economic migrants, not asylum _ they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers _ they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers. but— they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers. but we - they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers. but we need i they are economic migrants, not asylum seekers. but we need to| they are economic migrants, not- asylum seekers. but we need to make sure the _ asylum seekers. but we need to make sure the system — asylum seekers. but we need to make sure the system is— asylum seekers. but we need to make sure the system is fair. _ sure the system is fair. one _ sure the system is fair. one final— sure the system is fair. one final point - sure the system is fair. one final point on - sure the system is fair. one final point on thisl sure the system is fair. i one final point on this in sure the system is fair. - one final point on this in relation to the coming election in the next year and a bit. this is going to be, unless sorted out, presumably... i'm not saying labour will necessarily have any better a position, we don't know what their policy will be, but it will definitely be up there? absolutely. labourwill definitely be up there? absolutely. labour will run into the same problem, but the government should bite the bullet. it is absurd to quality concentration camp or whatever. we have to how's these people somewhere, and a solution where we clear the backlog by rubber—stamping applications is not acceptable to the british public, so it might as well be secure, hygienic, properly built with proper facilities, otherwise you are scattering them around the country. the consensus is beneath the asylum system in place and we need to check people. that means they need somewhere to live and we should build it. thank you all very much indeed. relations between the us and china are recalibrated perhaps more than any other two powers. injune, the us secretary, antony blinken, made a visit to beijing, which had been delayed by the spy balloon row, and met president xi to reopen lines of communication at the highest level. that was quickly followed by president biden calling xi a dictator. now, following the news that the us president, concerned about national security risks, has signed an executive order which authorises the restriction of us investments in three key chinese sectors — semiconductors, quantum technologies and ai — the uk government is considering similar moves. so how should we characterise the west's relationship with china? here's david. when president bill clinton was trying to improve relations with china at the start of the new millennium, his weapon of choice was trade. china would export goods, and in return, they wouldn't be able to resist importing democracy. getting into a rules—based system and promoting economic competition will both enhance the march of liberty and law and human rights. 23 years on from that, and no—one thinks the west has successfully exported liberty and human rights to china. in fact, quite the reverse. there's a widespread fear in washington that through trade and membership of global institutions, china has managed to become more of a threat to western interests and liberty and has in fact exported its own brand of autocracy to the rest of the world. i think the great failing of the west was globalisation on the internet in a way that didn't promote the values of the west, but actually is being now subverted to to promote is being now subverted to promote the values of totalitarianism. in an attempt to further restrict china's access to new technologies that will shape the coming decades, president biden has signed an executive order. us firms would need approval to invest in china, in semiconductors and microelectronics, artificial intelligence and quantum computing. the united states is increasingly concerned about chinese military capabilities, which have advanced very rapidly in recent years. the goal is to protect a very narrow set of advanced technologies that are critical for us national security, to prevent china from developing or accessing sensitive technologies that could be used to threaten the united states and its allies. the biden administration's stance on china is supposed to be nuanced, strong and resolute, where necessary, but friendly and cooperative where possible. all the while trying to limit us reliance on chinese supply lines. we do not see conflict with china or a new cold war. we're not trying to contain china. and in fact, the united states continues to have a comprehensive trade and investment relationship with china, as do most of our allies and partners. we are, however, resolutely for de—risking and diversifying, not decoupling our national security adviser, jake sullivan. our national security adviser, jake sullivan, he has drawn this analogy to describing the policy as one of small gardens and high fences. and many people continue to say, well, we have to wait to see how small the gardens really will be, how high the fences will be. and there could well be unintended consequences with costs to businesses and to the global economy greater than expected. but a high degree of protection for small but vital areas of the us economy may not be enough in the current american political climate. i absolutely do think it's going to be a 2024 election issue. it's actually, though, not a left versus right problem or a republican versus democrat problem. it is ultimately the ruling establishment in the united states that's going to be put on trial and it's going to be put on trial by the american people, the working class, small business owners, they're tired, they're fed up. they realise that this relationship has not benefited them. globalisation and the internet and this fulsome relationship with china has actually made their lives less, less beneficial. they've had less economic opportunity. and so i think you're going to start to see that come even more into play than it already has. earlier this year, the detection of chinese spy balloons over america caused outrage and demands for a resolute response. whoa. these investment controls are a beginning, but probably not an end. i'm nowjoined with gabriel wildau, a senior vice president at global business advisory firm teneo, where he supports clients investing in chinese markets. i'm also joined by emily kilcrease, a former director for international trade, investment and development at the national security council and current senior fellow at cnas. thank you both very much forjoining us. first of all, gabriel, what happened when the president issued the executive order? what was the business reaction? in the executive order? what was the business reaction?— the executive order? what was the business reaction? in many ways, i think the business _ business reaction? in many ways, i think the business community - business reaction? in many ways, i | think the business community made business reaction? in many ways, i i think the business community made a sigh of relief because the executive order the white has issued was far less restrictive and far narrower than some earlier proposals that had been discussed along similar lines, so, as your corresponded mention, it'sjust a so, as your corresponded mention, it's just a handful of these advanced sectors that will be affected. but the concern is that this isn't the end, and while we are offering criticisms from more hawkish members of congress that this order doesn't go far enough, so there is a chance this could broaden out to cover other sectors where the link to national security is more tenuous. there are legitimate questions even in these three sectors where, in semiconductors, most use of civilian there are some military uses, but there are some lawmakers in washington who want to extent these investment restrictions to cover biotech and clean energy and potentially many other sectors. let's talk about semiconductors. there is a water shortage. if the us doesn't invest, are there others willing to step in?— doesn't invest, are there others willing to step in? well, what we have seen _ willing to step in? well, what we have seen over _ willing to step in? well, what we have seen over the _ willing to step in? well, what we have seen over the last - willing to step in? well, what we have seen over the last couple i willing to step in? well, what wej have seen over the last couple of years is the us, europe and alongside asian companies that have been subsidising some semi production for many years, south korea and taiwan, so we are at the potential glut of semiconductor production and china will continue be a major player in the industry at the low and mid end. it's really the advanced end of the semiconductor value chain where these export controls and restrictions are going to bite and prevent china from advancing. emily kilcrease, will this be a loss of face for china or have they factored this in? this be a loss of face for china or. have they factored this in? clearly china has had _ have they factored this in? clearly china has had quite _ have they factored this in? clearly china has had quite some - have they factored this in? clearly china has had quite some time . have they factored this in? clearly china has had quite some time to| china has had quite some time to know— china has had quite some time to know this — china has had quite some time to know this was coming. it's been in the works— know this was coming. it's been in the works for over two years and we understand — the works for over two years and we understand it's been a topic of discussion— understand it's been a topic of discussion in some high—level bilateral— discussion in some high—level bilateral dialogues, so they're not going _ bilateral dialogues, so they're not going to _ bilateral dialogues, so they're not going to be spread, either by the existence — going to be spread, either by the existence of the executive order or its spread — existence of the executive order or its spread. they are going to watch to see _ its spread. they are going to watch to see what — its spread. they are going to watch to see what happens next they have been retaliating against some recent us actions — been retaliating against some recent us actions. they are not going to like these — us actions. they are not going to like these restrictions, particularly in the context of a slowing — particularly in the context of a slowing economy and other challenges in their— slowing economy and other challenges in their domestic market right now, tickly— in their domestic market right now, tickly if— in their domestic market right now, tickly if this — in their domestic market right now, tickly if this is the foot of additional us restrictions or the first of— additional us restrictions or the first of the countries implementing similar— first of the countries implementing similar types of investment controls _ similar types of investment controls. it is something china is going _ controls. it is something china is going to — controls. it is something china is going to be — controls. it is something china is going to be worried about and something they are going to push back against. and it may have implication for taiwan. gn back against. and it may have implication for taiwan. on this business of — implication for taiwan. on this business of the _ implication for taiwan. on this business of the way _ implication for taiwan. on this business of the way china - implication for taiwan. on this| business of the way china does business, how much of this is to do with the way that china business is structured? , , with the way that china business is structured?— structured? this is absolutely a reaction to _ structured? this is absolutely a reaction to the _ structured? this is absolutely a reaction to the challenges - structured? this is absolutely a reaction to the challenges that l reaction to the challenges that united — reaction to the challenges that united states has the china export as well, _ united states has the china export as well, the export cross are in response — as well, the export cross are in response to long—standing concerns that the _ response to long—standing concerns that the us and its partners have had our— that the us and its partners have had our about nuclear fusion in china, — had our about nuclear fusion in china, lack— had our about nuclear fusion in china, lack of distinction between the military and commercial spheres. they want— the military and commercial spheres. they want to maintain a trading rush with china _ they want to maintain a trading rush with china but they have been clear that national surety interests comfort _ that national surety interests comfort and if we can't safely maintain _ comfort and if we can't safely maintain those ties, the comfort that that — maintain those ties, the comfort that that sort of technology and investment, quote, isn't fuelling china— investment, quote, isn't fuelling china military, that there is going to be _ china military, that there is going to be some — china military, that there is going to be some kind of targeted relation and restriction to make sure we are meeting _ and restriction to make sure we are meeting our— and restriction to make sure we are meeting our national security interests. �* , meeting our national security interests-— interests. the british cabinet blocked china, _ interests. the british cabinet blocked china, the _ interests. the british cabinet i blocked china, the construction interests. the british cabinet - blocked china, the construction of british power stations in 2021. also, huawei, the 5g networks in 2020 the trip if china feels it's been frozen out, do you think there will be a reaction? i been frozen out, do you think there will be a reaction?— will be a reaction? i think the rima will be a reaction? i think the primary reaction _ will be a reaction? i think the primary reaction we - will be a reaction? i think the primary reaction we can - will be a reaction? i think the i primary reaction we can expect will be a reaction? i think the - primary reaction we can expect from beijing, and its already ongoing, is an effort to reduce their reliance on technology and foreign expertise and, based on the recognition that there is an economic containment strategy under way, and i don't think beijing is much hope that they can, i mean, perhaps at the margin they can achieve a rollback here and there, but fundamentally this policy is not going to change, so beijing but will remain response is going to be to try and upgrade their own technological capabilities so they can advance economically and probably militarily as well without the help of foreign technology. in terms of retaliation, my view is that we are unlikely to see major retaliation. there's a rapprochement under way between the us and china, as your correspondent mentioned, visits by high—level officials was that i think beijing wants keep that going to we have an apec summit coming up in november and they don't want to derail that factual rapprochement. 50 want to derail that factual rapprochement.— want to derail that factual rapprochement. want to derail that factual raurochement. ., , �* rapprochement. so it doesn't feel like the beginnings _ rapprochement. so it doesn't feel like the beginnings of _ rapprochement. so it doesn't feel like the beginnings of an - rapprochement. so it doesn't feel| like the beginnings of an economic cold war? i like the beginnings of an economic cold war? ~ , , cold war? i think it is, but the cold war? i think it is, but the cold war? i think it is, but the cold war is — cold war? i think it is, but the cold war is taking _ cold war? i think it is, but the cold war is taking the - cold war? i think it is, but the cold war is taking the form i cold war? i think it is, but the | cold war is taking the form also cold war? i think it is, but the - cold war is taking the form also of china trying to increase its self—sufficiency, its indigenous innovation capabilities, its ability to produce advanced semiconductors and ai applications without the help of western technology, recognising that the wet takes a very dim view of china's motives and therefore these restrictions on technology transfer are only going to increase. when was the last time there was a stable business relationship between the us and china?— the us and china? clearly, the relationship — the us and china? clearly, the relationship has _ the us and china? clearly, the relationship has been - the us and china? clearly, the relationship has been under i the us and china? clearly, the . relationship has been under strain years— relationship has been under strain years now — relationship has been under strain years now. we had the difficulty in engaging _ years now. we had the difficulty in engaging with china during the crowd: ., ., 4' engaging with china during the crowd: ., ., ~ , ., , ., crowd: looked imperious, there have been long-standing _ crowd: looked imperious, there have been long-standing concerns - crowd: looked imperious, there have been long-standing concerns that - crowd: looked imperious, there have been long-standing concerns that the | been long—standing concerns that the trump _ been long—standing concerns that the trump admission tried to address around _ trump admission tried to address around technology of strip back to obama. _ around technology of strip back to obama, there were initiative to try and deal— obama, there were initiative to try and deal with some of the structural concerns— and deal with some of the structural concerns the us and other sat with china _ concerns the us and other sat with china but— concerns the us and other sat with china but economic structure of stop these _ china but economic structure of stop these consent have only increased over time — these consent have only increased over time step these consent have only increased overtime step i these consent have only increased over time step i think what's been changing — over time step i think what's been changing in — over time step i think what's been changing in recent there is increasing pessimism that we are ready— increasing pessimism that we are really going to be able to change chinds— really going to be able to change china's behaviour so, were in this moment— china's behaviour so, were in this moment where governments are ultimately rethinking the economic relationship and best strategies for engaging with china on economic issues, _ engaging with china on economic issues, when we are having talks now we are _ issues, when we are having talks now we are not— issues, when we are having talks now we are not necessarily talking about increased _ we are not necessarily talking about increased market access, increased integration. — increased market access, increased integration, we are really talking about— integration, we are really talking about stability in the relationship, trying _ about stability in the relationship, trying to— about stability in the relationship, trying to get more predictability into the — trying to get more predictability into the relationship and getting some _ into the relationship and getting some clarity around where these new lines are _ some clarity around where these new lines are going to be for when the governments are going to come in and pose national security restrictions at the _ pose national security restrictions at the end — pose national security restrictions at the end of the day, that's what companies — at the end of the day, that's what companies need to know, they need to know what— companies need to know, they need to know what isn't and is allowed and what _ know what isn't and is allowed and what their— know what isn't and is allowed and what their risk is.— "how do i love thee? let me count the ways." could elizabeth barrett browning's words be repurposed for the ai era? "how and who writes these words, and are the ways endless?" the american authorjane friedman was alerted to the fact that there were books carrying her name for sale on amazon that were not penned by her, but generated by ai. jane friedman called it a "gross violation", but at first had a struggle to have them removed, as the online shopping service pushed back on the basis that she hadn't trademarked her name. in a moment, the realjane friedman, but first, we asked one of our producers to frame the basic questions in the form of a short essay. can a machine write a story that's as good as a human? can it write a story in the style of an author so that people can't tell the difference? what does good even mean? creative writing is supposed to be about a human experience. if it's written by a machine, does it become fake, even if it's really good? well, we willjust pause it there. can we make this script more punter—friendly? we asked ai creative writing tool sudowrite to pick up the narrative in the style ofjr tolkien. if it is written by a mechanisation, could it still be considered legitimate, even if its quality surpasses that of a mortal writer? what if an artist was presented with two edits for his labour, one provided by man and one by machine? could it be possible that the author finds the machination's suggestions more apt than those offered their own species, such that they would come to believe the mechanism was capable of producing artistry in its own right? what should we make of this possibility? that was sudowrite, but let's go even more flowery. we asked chatgpt to pick up the story with what can only be described as tolkien plus. should the automaton's counsel be more captivating? should its phrasings be more poetic? should the ink it suggests flow more smoothly on the canvas of parchment? what then, when the humble wordsmith finds the gears and circuits have grasped the ineffable spirit of the tale with a keener hand than their own? when the brush wielded by the hand of creation has been, in essence, augmented by another�*s hand, albeit one cast of metal? that was the author chatgpt. the authorjane friedman, here spoken about unauthorised books being written in her name, is with us now, as is the british writer tracy buchanan. jane, how did it feel to be appropriated? i had to reactions. the first was of a writer whose name had been violated. but i also write and report on the publishing industry, so it frankly fascinated me that we have now reached this point where someone is generating entire books, knowing that they are going to try and pass it off as an established author. i going to try and pass it off as an established author.— going to try and pass it off as an established author. i should also sa ou established author. i should also say you are _ established author. i should also say you are the _ established author. i should also say you are the former— established author. i should also say you are the former president established author. i should also - say you are the former president and a very big publishing house, harper collins. but let me ask you how you felt about the words being used. did you recognise any of yourself in the construction of the sentences? what didn't look like to you? —— what did it look like to you? didn't look like to you? -- what did it look like to you?— it look like to you? mostly it was bloviatin: it look like to you? mostly it was bloviating nonsense. _ it look like to you? mostly it was bloviating nonsense. it - it look like to you? mostly it was bloviating nonsense. it was - it look like to you? mostly it was bloviating nonsense. it was very| bloviating nonsense. it was very generic. it did not get into anything of substance. but you could tell that they were trying very hard to create something that would be worthwhile. tracey buchanan, authors such as jonathan franzen, philip pullman, have written a letter to ai companies to stop using their work without credit, and the next stage would be that we would have a book byjonathan franzen but not by him. yes, and we are seeing a lot of that happening — yes, and we are seeing a lot of that happening, as with the example with jane. f. jane. i think as an jane. — i think as an author, there is jahe~ — i think as an author, there is that concerh — i think as an author, there is that concerh i— i think as an author, there is that concerh i am _ i think as an author, there is that concern. i am a i think as an author, there is that concern. lam a member i think as an author, there is that concern. i am a member of the capture — concern. i am a member of the capture authors group, full published authors, and there is a lot of— published authors, and there is a lot of concern with this happening, with plagiarism and copyright issues — with plagiarism and copyright issues i_ with plagiarism and copyright issues. i know the likes of chatgpt, they say— issues. i know the likes of chatgpt, they say their learning models, they use freely— they say their learning models, they use freely available information that is— use freely available information that is already on the internet, so that is already on the internet, so that can _ that is already on the internet, so that can include excerpts from our work, _ that can include excerpts from our work. there — that can include excerpts from our work, there is a possibility it could — work, there is a possibility it could scrape piracy websites. so there _ could scrape piracy websites. so there is— could scrape piracy websites. so there is definitely lots of concerns about _ there is definitely lots of concerns about that, duplicating author voices. — about that, duplicating author voices, and many authors are talking about— voices, and many authors are talking about that, _ voices, and many authors are talking about that, but there is also a flip side as— about that, but there is also a flip side as well, because there are a lot of— side as well, because there are a lot of fantastic ai tools out there that are — lot of fantastic ai tools out there that are helping to track down book piracy— that are helping to track down book piracy and _ that are helping to track down book piracy and helping authors take those _ piracy and helping authors take those books away from websites. but what those books away from websites. what about those books away from websites. iei,ii what about putting your first draft, rather than going into... putting yourfirst rather than going into... putting your first draft into some kind of ai friendly space, and then the first draft is 5000 words too long, and so you find ai will fill at it for you, and so you find ai will fill at it foryou, because and so you find ai will fill at it for you, because it will understand by looking at your work that the impetus for your plots, characters, your ideas, your structure? certainly lots of authors are doing that, but asjane said, sometimes what _ that, but asjane said, sometimes what comes out is a bit flowery, there's— what comes out is a bit flowery, there's lots _ what comes out is a bit flowery, there's lots of words that are repeated. like "tapestry". chatgpt loves _ repeated. like "tapestry". chatgpt loves to— repeated. like "tapestry". chatgpt loves to use — repeated. like "tapestry". chatgpt loves to use the words tapestry and however~ _ loves to use the words tapestry and however. so as an author, i had authors — however. so as an author, i had authors the _ however. so as an author, i had authors the tool and there are authors — authors the tool and there are authors out there who say much of their— authors out there who say much of their work— authors out there who say much of their work has been written by ai. but i _ their work has been written by ai. but i think— their work has been written by ai. but i think what appeals to readers is the _ but i think what appeals to readers is the human element, and there are ways to _ is the human element, and there are ways to use — is the human element, and there are ways to use ai is the human element, and there are ways to use alto help authors other than actually writing our novels. but the — than actually writing our novels. but the truth is, we are getting down that line, and dickens may have been dead for a very long time, but maybe ai will come up, jane friedman, with another dickens book him a i think that's exactly what's going to him a i think that's exactly what's hoin to . , , , him a i think that's exactly what's ”ointo , ., , going to happen. these models will be able to ingest _ going to happen. these models will be able to ingest enough _ going to happen. these models will be able to ingest enough of - going to happen. these models will| be able to ingest enough of author's work to mimic them and come up with their ideas. it is not there yet,