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is the public on board with rishi sunak�*s tough migrant policy? and vegan products have been filling the supermarket shelves in recent years — but new data shows the cost of living crisis is turning people back to more affordable meat products. welcome to the programme. we start with the crucial summit on the security of the amazon rainforest. the leaders of eight south american countries that share the amazon, are gathering — the first time in m years there's been a meeting like this. scientists are concerned that, deforestation in the amazon may be approaching an irreversible tipping point. brazil's president — lula da silva — is hoping for a co—ordinated regional approach, to tackle illegal mining and logging — as well as other environmental crimes. scientists say the amazon rainforest is a crucial buffer against climate change — and 60% of it is located in brazil. it acts as a major �*carbon sink�* — absorbing carbon dioxide emissions. president lula has already promised to end deforestation by 2030. rainforest destruction had surged under his predecessor, jair bolsonaro. and it appears some progress is already being made. injuly of this year, 500 square kilometres of rainforest was cleared in brazil — 66% less than injuly of last year. the rainforest is home to 50 million people, including hundreds of indigenous groups, who depend on its unique the meeting is taking place in the city of belem, in brazil's most deforested state para. from there, our south america correspondent katie watson sent this report. virgin forest still exists here in the amazon, but every day the illegal loggers get closer. from up high you can see the damage done, the large patches of land totally cleared. this part of brazil has the highest rate of deforestation in the country. underjair bolsonaro, illegal logging soared. president lula has promised to fix the problem, telling the bbc that this summit would be a game changer. translation: the world needs to look at the meeting - here in belem as a milestone, the most important ever held to discuss the climate issue so it's a great opportunity for us to show the people of the world what we want to do. we have returned to govern brazil to try and make a difference. for those living under the rainforest canopy, like hobson, it's been a difficult few years. translation: you have no idea how much pressure - there was in our community under the bolsonaro government. landowners, circling planes, soya farmers wanting to buy the land to deforest it. but hobson is standing firm. he is growing sustainable crops instead. he's part of a booming carbon credit industry, taking part in sustainable farming projects that sell carbon credits to companies wanting to offset their emissions. but not everyone is convinced. bianca and herfamily, like many in the region, want better services like schools and health centres. but they are suspicious of carbon credit companies offering to help them. translation: it is not that transparent. - we cannot see how it would give us a secure life. we are always on the back foot and fear the consequences. because of the stories we heard, we decided not to sign a contract. how to ensure the future of the amazon and improve the lives of the more than 30,000 people who live here, is the biggest challenge facing the group of leaders in belem. just to get to this part of the amazon, it took 13 hours overnight on a riverboat, and now this smaller boat, to get to the communities here. but if you look on a map, it all looks so close together and itjust goes to show how vast the amazon is, but also how difficult it is to navigate and ultimately, also how difficult it will be for lula to achieve his zero deforestation by 2030. which is why he needs the backing of all of the countries that share the amazon. leaders are expected to offer solutions to illegal logging and mining, moving away from big infrastructure projects and trying to provide basic services to those most in need. money talks, and without offering a better life for those who live in the forest, any discussion of conservation is pointless. katy watson, bbc news in belem. let's bring in mercedes bustamante, an ecologist at the university of brasilia — and bram ebus of the international crisis group and amazon underworld, which investigates criminal networks in the rainforest. sticking with climate. white and you both forjoining us here. how important is it that this summit is taking place in the first place? it's quite important because as you mentioned, it is the first time since 2009 that we have a meeting of the leaders of the region, so in this multilateral coordination is not crucial to find solutions for the huge challenges that we have in the amazon reach and also providing the people there with a better life. also providing the people there with a better life-— a better life. what are the challenges _ a better life. what are the challenges that _ a better life. what are the challenges that use - a better life. what are the challenges that use for . a better life. what are the i challenges that use for see? the main challenges that use for see? tie: main challenges i challenges that use for see? ti9 main challenges i think during these last four years, in the amazon region is an increase in illegal activities, illegal logging, mining, but also we saw the increase knuckle traffic in the region. so this illegal activity is making the contact much more difficult than it was in the past. i contact much more difficult than it was in the past.— was in the past. i can see you noddin: was in the past. i can see you nodding along _ was in the past. i can see you nodding along to _ was in the past. i can see you nodding along to west - was in the past. i can see you i nodding along to west mercedes was in the past. i can see you - nodding along to west mercedes is saying. you obviously have looked into criminal activity in the rain forest region. why do you believe security should be high on the agenda during this summit? what security should be high on the agenda during this summit? what we see as the current _ agenda during this summit? what we see as the current situation _ agenda during this summit? what we see as the current situation where . see as the current situation where the stale — see as the current situation where the state of government has no control— the state of government has no control over their most remote parts of the _ control over their most remote parts of the amazon where we definitely observe _ of the amazon where we definitely observe criminal governance, where armed _ observe criminal governance, where armed groups are crime organisations determine _ armed groups are crime organisations determine who can enter, who will live, _ determine who can enter, who will live, who _ determine who can enter, who will live, who will die, and as crime groups— live, who will die, and as crime groups from brazil and factions from columbia, _ groups from brazil and factions from columbia, despite linguistic and cultural— columbia, despite linguistic and cultural barriers, are able to conduct _ cultural barriers, are able to conduct business together, to cooperate. we ask ourselves the question. — cooperate. we ask ourselves the question, why our government so far unable _ question, why our government so far unable to— question, why our government so far unable to come up with a coherent plan to— unable to come up with a coherent plan to protect the amazon rain forest _ plan to protect the amazon rain forest and — plan to protect the amazon rain forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is _ forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it — forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it that _ forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it that successive i that? why is it that successive governments haven't been able to come up with a plan? we governments haven't been able to come up with a plan?— come up with a plan? we think definitely do _ come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit _ come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit this - come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit this weekj come up with a plan? we think. definitely do summit this week is come up with a plan? we think- definitely do summit this week is a great _ definitely do summit this week is a great step— definitely do summit this week is a great step forward because we know at least _ great step forward because we know at least they are talking now and they need — at least they are talking now and they need to come up with a coherent response _ they need to come up with a coherent response which can be backed by the international community. but we think— international community. but we think it's — international community. but we think it's very important to cooperate with a law enforcement level but — cooperate with a law enforcement level but also regain the trust of the populations living in the amazon who oftentimes have been alienated by repressive state attitudes. but states _ by repressive state attitudes. but states must actually invest in public — states must actually invest in public health, education and help local populations to vocalize their wishes _ local populations to vocalize their wishes for— local populations to vocalize their wishes for the future of the amazon. even katie _ wishes for the future of the amazon. even katie watson, our south american correspondent, in her p said that it would be very difficult to progress with anything without getting the point of view of the indigenous people, of those people who use the area, those who live there. ~ :. who use the area, those who live there. ~ . ~ :, :, :, there. we have in the amazon region not 'ust a there. we have in the amazon region not just a huge _ there. we have in the amazon region notjust a huge biological— notjust a huge biological diversity, but also huge cultural and social diversity. so the participation of amazonian peoples in the design and plan and implementation of all the national plans to curb deforestation is essential. without the precipitation of the people in the region, we will not succeed. so we really need to take into account what are the differences, the cultural differences, the cultural differences, what are the different points of view in the region and trying to barely find a concerted solution for the whole region. horse solution for the whole region. how much damage _ solution for the whole region. how much damage has _ solution for the whole region. how much damage has been done by the years of the balls in our government? and is that damage irreversible? in government? and is that damage irreversible?— government? and is that damage irreversible? , :, ~ :, :, irreversible? in parts of the amazon re . ion, irreversible? in parts of the amazon region. what — irreversible? in parts of the amazon region. what we _ irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are _ irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are seeing - irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are seeing now, - irreversible? in parts of the amazon | region, what we are seeing now, the amazon is a net sink for carbon, but in parts of the amazon forest now, because at the deforestation, climate change, we have a reverse of this sink as a source of carbon in the atmosphere. so the amazon region in some parts of the forest are really very close to that tipping point. this is a global alerts. we need to protect the forest and this demands local action but also global action to stop climate change. interesting you should say global action, because you have written that other countries have a big part to play, really big part in bringing them together in this summit really does help push that forward. i them together in this summit really does help push that forward. i think so. what does help push that forward. i think so- what the _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to - does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to see - does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to see is. so. what the world wants to see is that there — so. what the world wants to see is that there is a collective voice in the amazon and this week's summit could _ the amazon and this week's summit could be _ the amazon and this week's summit could be the right platform for that — could be the right platform for that. also the amazon countries cannot— that. also the amazon countries cannot fix — that. also the amazon countries cannot fix this issue by themselves. for starters. — cannot fix this issue by themselves. for starters, they need international financing. the president of columbia spoke about debts _ president of columbia spoke about debts for— president of columbia spoke about debts for climate action and forest conservation already today because what we _ conservation already today because what we see in the depths of the amazon— what we see in the depths of the amazon is— what we see in the depths of the amazon is that profits are way higher— amazon is that profits are way higher than the state budgets to combat — higher than the state budgets to combat that. so he needs to be coherent— combat that. so he needs to be coherent to help the amazon countries _ coherent to help the amazon countries and it's important to bear in mind _ countries and it's important to bear in mind that — countries and it's important to bear in mind that coming from areas are in mind that coming from areas are in high— in mind that coming from areas are in high demand in other continents, and i_ in high demand in other continents, and i think— in high demand in other continents, and i think that especially the united — and i think that especially the united states and europe, they can be proactive action to actually help clean _ be proactive action to actually help clean up _ be proactive action to actually help clean up the supply chain and work on traceability of these commodities. ~ : , :, commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is — commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a — commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a responsibility, - commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a responsibility, if- that there is a responsibility, if you like, a role to be paid by countries that are using what is taken from the amazon and what companies are selling, commodities, as was put. it’s companies are selling, commodities, aswas ut. h :, :, companies are selling, commodities, as was ut. h :, :, ~ as was put. it's important to think that there is _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no single _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no single nor- as was put. it's important to think that there is no single nor simple | that there is no single nor simple solution for the case, but time matters. it's important also to realise the connections between the first and global supply chains. so in this case, we really need to, as mentioned before, how we can improve traceability and make this more transparent so that people can really decide on what they buy or not depending on the environmental impact that it has in the region. i impact that it has in the region. i completely agree, and i think there are initiatives already which will be discussed today, for example, we heard _ be discussed today, for example, we heard from _ be discussed today, for example, we heard from the president speaking about— heard from the president speaking about amazonian nato, which is definitely— about amazonian nato, which is definitely a comment that insinuates that they— definitely a comment that insinuates that they are all one regional corporation, but they could use that assistance. — corporation, but they could use that assistance, and governments to look at themselves and their own role in amazon— at themselves and their own role in amazon deforestation and financing these _ amazon deforestation and financing these environmental crimes, because what we _ these environmental crimes, because what we see — these environmental crimes, because what we see very often is the lack of political — what we see very often is the lack of political will or capacity, governments and law enforcement teams _ governments and law enforcement teams go — governments and law enforcement teams go after the low hanging fruit. _ teams go after the low hanging fruit, which oftentimes are people living _ fruit, which oftentimes are people living in— fruit, which oftentimes are people living in the amazon which are basically— living in the amazon which are basically absorbed by these economies. these forces have cheap labour— economies. these forces have cheap labour can _ economies. these forces have cheap labour can be easily replaced commandment is necessary now is that law enforcement because after the financiers— law enforcement because after the financiers of deforestation which are living — financiers of deforestation which are living in the capitals of amazon countries _ are living in the capitals of amazon countries or— are living in the capitals of amazon countries or even abroad, so far, they— countries or even abroad, so far, they have — countries or even abroad, so far, they have relatively untouched. interesting. from international crisis group and amazon underwrote, which investigates criminal networks in the rain forest, mercedes from the university of the zodiac and it's a pleasure to have you both on the programme. thank you once again for your time. you may think you stop and thanks for having us. let's turn to the situation in portugal. it's one of the countries that experienced extreme heat and forest fires injuly. and august has seen no let up. fires, like these shown here, are raging in the centre and south of the country and monday saw the hottest temperature of the year — 46a degrees celsius — in santarem, north of the capital lisbon. there is growing concern for locals and tourists in the area. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the uk electoral commission has revealed it's been the subject of a cyber attack. the independent watchdog, says "hostile actors" have been able to access electoral registers and it's warned the public to be "vigilant for unauthorised use or release of their personal data." five people, including a ito—year—old british national, have died in violent protests related to the taxi strike in cape town. this comes after a week—long strike was called by the south african national taxi council. the strike was in response to what the drivers called "heavy—handed tactics" by law enforcement authorities. exa m exam result they in scotland. ——exam result day in scotland. the pass rate for exams in scotland has fallen — but remains higher than before the covid pandemic. more than 144,000 young people across scotland have been receiving their grades for national its and ss, highers and advanced highers. the proportion of pupils awarded an a, b or c at higher has fallen from 78.9% in 2022 to 77.1% this year. you're live with bbc news. a charity representing asylum seekers who were due to be moved onto a barge in dorset is claiming that four more transfers have been cancelled. careltcalais claim it's due to the threat of legal action. the government has denied any cancellations onto the bibby stockholm have taken place. it comes after 15 men spent their first night on on the barge. more are expected to board the bibby stockholm later in the week. joining me now isjoe twyman, cofounder of deltapoll. always good to have you on the programme, because when we talk to we get a good idea of what people are really thinking about government policy and what is happening right now. this has been hugely controversial move by the government, but it has felt the pressure from people in this country to make good on its promise of stopping the boats, so to speak to him of the boats crossing the channel from france. tell me what people have been telling you about what they think about what the government is doing. it’s what they think about what the government is doing.— government is doing. it's an extraordinarily _ government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind - government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind of - government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind of kid i government is doing. it's an - extraordinarily kind of kid subject with many different facets, and as a result, public opinion is rather mixed. it's certainly a mixed picture when you look at the data. when you ask the british public how well the government is doing when it comes to dealing with the issue of small boats, nearly half of people think that they are doing badly, on the around the third of people think they are doing well. but when it comes to specific policies, such as the barge down in dorset or indeed the barge down in dorset or indeed theissue the barge down in dorset or indeed the issue of flights to rwanda, you consistently see at least when the issues are announced that around about half of the people support them and around about a third of people oppose with the rest saying they don't know. that is linked to they don't know. that is linked to the fact that overall, when you look at immigration and asylum as an issue, you find that more than half of people in this country consistently believe that the number of people who come here as immigrants should be reduced. that is a long—standing theme, and although the figures have fallen since bragg set, it remains a strong theme in british public opinion. even then, it's even more complicated than that. if you are talking about people seeking asylum as a result of the war in ukraine, particularly women and children, there is far greater support of that, similarly for highly skilled immigrants or indeed people to fail labour shortages. immigrants or indeed people to fail labourshortages. support immigrants or indeed people to fail labour shortages. support is fair, but at the same time certain groups of asylum—seekers are seen as not as popular, so they tend to have far less support for them coming here. so a very mixed picture. haifa less support for them coming here. so a very mixed picture.— so a very mixed picture. how much su ort is so a very mixed picture. how much support is therefore _ so a very mixed picture. how much support is therefore government i support is therefore government policies like, for example, sending illegal immigrants to rwanda or are putting asylum—seekers on a barge while their application is being processed. tt while their application is being processed-— while their application is being rocessed. , processed. if you ask people 'ust when those fl processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind i processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind ofi processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind of policies h processed. if you ask people just when those kind of policies are l when those kind of policies are announced, about half the people say that they support them around about a third oppose, and the rest say they don't know. that's pretty consistent. it really doesn't depend what the issue is very much because the average person in the street isn't paying too much attention to the detail. but as time goes on in those policies become open to more and more scrutiny, we do often see a narrowing and indeed a change of the position. ultimately, it is worth remembering that this remains a relatively small issue compared to particularly the economy. he asked the british people what are the most important issues facing them in theirfamily, only10% important issues facing them in theirfamily, only 10% of important issues facing them in their family, only 10% of people place immigration and asylum in their top three. that is a long way behind the 67% to pace the cost of living in their top three. it's also behind the nhs and the economy in general. when you ask 0k, what about the most important issue facing the country as a whole, you find that rises to just under a quarter of people saying immigration and asylum. again, still well short of the two thirds to say cost of living. it is true that amongst conservative voters in 2019, that figure does rise to over a third, 37%, but, again that is not enough to get it above fourth place on the list of priorities. so for a small group, it is important, and in some cases very important. those people are more likely to be conservatives. compared to the economy, it is just not in the same league. compared to the economy, it is 'ust not in the same league. interesting, as alwa s, not in the same league. interesting, as always. great _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk to. - not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk to. thank. as always, great to talk to. thank you very much indeed. former president donald trump is holding a rally in windham, new hampshire today. it's his first campaign rally since facing a third criminal indictment last week, when he was charged with four counts for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. the former president continues to lead in the polls among republicans, maintaining a healthy lead over governor ron desantis. during the rally mr trump defended himself and took the opportunity to criticise president biden's relationship with china. and it is a national tragedy that joe biden, cricketjoe, he is more interested in where is the money coming from, to him. he is interested in him. help at all of these things at the 30 corporations end that this come outcome of the money flowing in, everybody getting money, coming infrom money flowing in, everybody getting money, coming in from china. let's speak to dr lauren wright — lecturer in politics and public affairs at princeton university. good to talk to. even listening to a little bit of what former president trump has been saying. the formula pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? tt pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? :, , :, , :, , pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? ,, pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true _ it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true rally - it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true rally speech l it? it really does and this is a l tried-and-true rally speech for it? it really does and this is a - tried-and-true rally speech for him. tried—and—true rally speech for him. the structure is atypical for a term speech, it is sort of rambling and conversational. it is very entertaining with the jabs at chris christie. he said don't bother him, he is busy eating. i won't call him a fat pig, were not allowed to post and he went in on ron desantis, that nickname seems to be sticking around attacking his opponents, and now he is getting into some of the january six and "i really won georgia and it was a perfect phone, the secretary of state." so it has really spanned the full menu if you will if the term strategy. —— ron desanctimonious. term strategy. -- ron desanctimonious. , , , :, desanctimonious. despite all the indictments. _ desanctimonious. despite all the indictments, despite _ desanctimonious. despite all the indictments, despite other - desanctimonious. despite all the | indictments, despite other recent events, nothing has really changed in that strategy. i events, nothing has really changed in that strategy.— in that strategy. i think that is an accurate characterisation - in that strategy. i think that is an accurate characterisation that. accurate characterisation that nothing has changed. polling, national polls of the contenders in 2024 have been remarkably stable since april now across all of these different indictments. trump has beenin different indictments. trump has been in the 505, and he knows that, that's probably why he is skipping the debate later this month, that is a pretty smart strategy, because he is so far ahead. and part of the speech was bragging about those polls, so and how far ahead he is. he sort of taking a victory lap already and transition to attacking biden as if he's already in a general election environment. let’s general election environment. let's talk a little bit — general election environment. let's talk a little bit about _ general election environment. let's talk a little bit about public perception, because what's donald trump is saying to people is one thing, what people are actually hearing is quite another. has that changed because of recent events? 50 changed because of recent events? sr we are still too early from the election for the voters who matter most in the general moderates, people who just instantly pay attention to politics, to really be watching these sorts of events closely. the hard—core supporters and primary voters are many times and primary voters are many times and so each candidate is sort of perfecting their message at this point and frankly, desantis is very far behind, so unless the structural factors changed tremendously not in trump's favour, he is so far sailing through this primary with all the falsehoods that he is spouting and all of the theories about himself. doctor, let's take a look at ron desantis. because we heard he sacked his campaign manager, so he really is struggling. his campaign manager, so he really is struggling-— is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake _ is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake things - is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake things up - is struggling. yes, and that is| smart to shake things up when is struggling. yes, and that is - smart to shake things up when they are not going well, certainly, but some of this, ron desantis doesn't have too much control over. even when he was the darling of the republican party, when he won reelection in a landslide back in november, he was still a good ten points behind trump. so even if he stayed on the straight and narrow there, he would be struggling, but it is very hard to close the gap that he has created, and some of that he has created, and some of thatis that he has created, and some of that is just because trump, as i read about in my most recent book, is a celebrity, he's the former president, he has show business skill set and with a huge stage, again, of ten candidates, 11 candidates, it is very difficult for them to distinguish themselves from one another when trump is on the stage. it is very much a replay of 2016, and it is hard for her, i'm sure, donors and activists to watch it unfold since trump has a pretty bad shot in a national election at least according to current numbers. 0k, doctor learn right from princeton university, always good to talk to. thank you very much. before we go — some lovely pictures to show you — a black bear — blamed for a string of break—ins in california — has been captured after more than a year on the run. the animal — weighing 35 stone — is believed to have forced her way into more than 20 homes in the lake tahoe area, to steal food. the bear — nicknamed hank the tank — will be moved to a new home, 12 hundred miles away, at a sanctuary in colorado. i wonder if they will put them on a diet. back in a few minutes. goodbye. hello there. there have certainly been winners and losers with this tuesday's forecast. an absolutely glorious day. across much of scotland, northern ireland and northern england. there were a few sharp showers in the northeast, but look at the western isles, beautiful from earlier on, slightly different story further south across england and wales in particular. there was quite a lot of low cloud and outbreaks of drizzly rain. it was misty as well through the day, and that is going to continue to drift its way steadily eastwards over the next few hours. the showers fading in scotland. we keep some clearer skies through the night. we keep quite a lot of low clouds down to the southwest. but temperatures will hold up perhaps into the mid—teens by first thing tomorrow morning. the reason being, we're starting to tap into some warmer air now as an area of high pressure is set to build. so this high pressure will move in from the southwest. yes, we've got this week weather front, which will always introduce the risk of more cloud and still some murky conditions to northern ireland, perhaps across west facing coasts of wales, south west england. again, misty, maybe a little bit drizzly from time to time. so further north and east, that's where we'll see the best of the sunshine. but temperatures generally will be a few degrees up on where we've seen them just recently, highs into the low 20s, but some of us could see temperatures into the mid 20s as the mid 70s. we'll tap into some further heat from spain as we move into thursday. thursday looks likely to be the warmest day of the week and the sunniest today quite widely across the country. it's not going to last, but those temperatures, mid 20s, possibly as high as 27 degrees. so that's 80 fahrenheit. but as we move out of thursday into friday, this cold front will start to push in. it's tied into this area of low pressure which is sitting to the far northwest. the winds will strengthen and it will bring outbreaks of rain, some of it heavy as it moves its way across northern england and scotland. it turns quite showery in nature through central and southern parts of england and wales, and ahead of it, if we maintain some early morning sunshine, it'll still be quite warm here, but noticeably fresher behind. and then as we head into the weekend, unfortunately that cooler, fresher showers regime is set to continue, with temperatures back into the low 20s as a daytime maximum. that's it. take care. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. uk retailers are ramping up promotions to win shoppers back, afterjuly�*s wet weather hit business — as shoppers held back from updating their summer wardrobes. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's tolson. hello from the bbc sport centre. colombia are through to the women's world cup quarter—finals for the first time. they beat jamaica 1—0 and will now face england on saturday. catalina usme's goal in the second half in melbourne was enough to set up a clash with the european champions. they become just the second south american nation to ever reach the quarter—finals of the world cup. forjamaica though, their impressive world cup comes to an end. for us, we are coming in with no games. i feel very happy for the players that they could perform at this

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is the public on board with rishi sunak�*s tough migrant policy? and vegan products have been filling the supermarket shelves in recent years — but new data shows the cost of living crisis is turning people back to more affordable meat products. welcome to the programme. we start with the crucial summit on the security of the amazon rainforest. the leaders of eight south american countries that share the amazon, are gathering — the first time in m years there's been a meeting like this. scientists are concerned that, deforestation in the amazon may be approaching an irreversible tipping point. brazil's president — lula da silva — is hoping for a co—ordinated regional approach, to tackle illegal mining and logging — as well as other environmental crimes. scientists say the amazon rainforest is a crucial buffer against climate change — and 60% of it is located in brazil. it acts as a major �*carbon sink�* — absorbing carbon dioxide emissions. president lula has already promised to end deforestation by 2030. rainforest destruction had surged under his predecessor, jair bolsonaro. and it appears some progress is already being made. injuly of this year, 500 square kilometres of rainforest was cleared in brazil — 66% less than injuly of last year. the rainforest is home to 50 million people, including hundreds of indigenous groups, who depend on its unique the meeting is taking place in the city of belem, in brazil's most deforested state para. from there, our south america correspondent katie watson sent this report. virgin forest still exists here in the amazon, but every day the illegal loggers get closer. from up high you can see the damage done, the large patches of land totally cleared. this part of brazil has the highest rate of deforestation in the country. underjair bolsonaro, illegal logging soared. president lula has promised to fix the problem, telling the bbc that this summit would be a game changer. translation: the world needs to look at the meeting - here in belem as a milestone, the most important ever held to discuss the climate issue so it's a great opportunity for us to show the people of the world what we want to do. we have returned to govern brazil to try and make a difference. for those living under the rainforest canopy, like hobson, it's been a difficult few years. translation: you have no idea how much pressure - there was in our community under the bolsonaro government. landowners, circling planes, soya farmers wanting to buy the land to deforest it. but hobson is standing firm. he is growing sustainable crops instead. he's part of a booming carbon credit industry, taking part in sustainable farming projects that sell carbon credits to companies wanting to offset their emissions. but not everyone is convinced. bianca and herfamily, like many in the region, want better services like schools and health centres. but they are suspicious of carbon credit companies offering to help them. translation: it is not that transparent. - we cannot see how it would give us a secure life. we are always on the back foot and fear the consequences. because of the stories we heard, we decided not to sign a contract. how to ensure the future of the amazon and improve the lives of the more than 30,000 people who live here, is the biggest challenge facing the group of leaders in belem. just to get to this part of the amazon, it took 13 hours overnight on a riverboat, and now this smaller boat, to get to the communities here. but if you look on a map, it all looks so close together and itjust goes to show how vast the amazon is, but also how difficult it is to navigate and ultimately, also how difficult it will be for lula to achieve his zero deforestation by 2030. which is why he needs the backing of all of the countries that share the amazon. leaders are expected to offer solutions to illegal logging and mining, moving away from big infrastructure projects and trying to provide basic services to those most in need. money talks, and without offering a better life for those who live in the forest, any discussion of conservation is pointless. katy watson, bbc news in belem. let's bring in mercedes bustamante, an ecologist at the university of brasilia — and bram ebus of the international crisis group and amazon underworld, which investigates criminal networks in the rainforest. sticking with climate. white and you both forjoining us here. how important is it that this summit is taking place in the first place? it's quite important because as you mentioned, it is the first time since 2009 that we have a meeting of the leaders of the region, so in this multilateral coordination is not crucial to find solutions for the huge challenges that we have in the amazon reach and also providing the people there with a better life. also providing the people there with a better life-— a better life. what are the challenges _ a better life. what are the challenges that _ a better life. what are the challenges that use - a better life. what are the challenges that use for . a better life. what are the i challenges that use for see? the main challenges that use for see? tie: main challenges i challenges that use for see? ti9 main challenges i think during these last four years, in the amazon region is an increase in illegal activities, illegal logging, mining, but also we saw the increase knuckle traffic in the region. so this illegal activity is making the contact much more difficult than it was in the past. i contact much more difficult than it was in the past.— was in the past. i can see you noddin: was in the past. i can see you nodding along _ was in the past. i can see you nodding along to _ was in the past. i can see you nodding along to west - was in the past. i can see you i nodding along to west mercedes was in the past. i can see you - nodding along to west mercedes is saying. you obviously have looked into criminal activity in the rain forest region. why do you believe security should be high on the agenda during this summit? what security should be high on the agenda during this summit? what we see as the current _ agenda during this summit? what we see as the current situation _ agenda during this summit? what we see as the current situation where . see as the current situation where the stale — see as the current situation where the state of government has no control— the state of government has no control over their most remote parts of the _ control over their most remote parts of the amazon where we definitely observe _ of the amazon where we definitely observe criminal governance, where armed _ observe criminal governance, where armed groups are crime organisations determine _ armed groups are crime organisations determine who can enter, who will live, _ determine who can enter, who will live, who _ determine who can enter, who will live, who will die, and as crime groups— live, who will die, and as crime groups from brazil and factions from columbia, _ groups from brazil and factions from columbia, despite linguistic and cultural— columbia, despite linguistic and cultural barriers, are able to conduct _ cultural barriers, are able to conduct business together, to cooperate. we ask ourselves the question. — cooperate. we ask ourselves the question, why our government so far unable _ question, why our government so far unable to— question, why our government so far unable to come up with a coherent plan to— unable to come up with a coherent plan to protect the amazon rain forest _ plan to protect the amazon rain forest and — plan to protect the amazon rain forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is _ forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it — forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it that _ forest and its inhabitants? why is that? why is it that successive i that? why is it that successive governments haven't been able to come up with a plan? we governments haven't been able to come up with a plan?— come up with a plan? we think definitely do _ come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit _ come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit this - come up with a plan? we think definitely do summit this weekj come up with a plan? we think. definitely do summit this week is come up with a plan? we think- definitely do summit this week is a great _ definitely do summit this week is a great step— definitely do summit this week is a great step forward because we know at least _ great step forward because we know at least they are talking now and they need — at least they are talking now and they need to come up with a coherent response _ they need to come up with a coherent response which can be backed by the international community. but we think— international community. but we think it's — international community. but we think it's very important to cooperate with a law enforcement level but — cooperate with a law enforcement level but also regain the trust of the populations living in the amazon who oftentimes have been alienated by repressive state attitudes. but states _ by repressive state attitudes. but states must actually invest in public — states must actually invest in public health, education and help local populations to vocalize their wishes _ local populations to vocalize their wishes for— local populations to vocalize their wishes for the future of the amazon. even katie _ wishes for the future of the amazon. even katie watson, our south american correspondent, in her p said that it would be very difficult to progress with anything without getting the point of view of the indigenous people, of those people who use the area, those who live there. ~ :. who use the area, those who live there. ~ . ~ :, :, :, there. we have in the amazon region not 'ust a there. we have in the amazon region not just a huge _ there. we have in the amazon region notjust a huge biological— notjust a huge biological diversity, but also huge cultural and social diversity. so the participation of amazonian peoples in the design and plan and implementation of all the national plans to curb deforestation is essential. without the precipitation of the people in the region, we will not succeed. so we really need to take into account what are the differences, the cultural differences, the cultural differences, what are the different points of view in the region and trying to barely find a concerted solution for the whole region. horse solution for the whole region. how much damage _ solution for the whole region. how much damage has _ solution for the whole region. how much damage has been done by the years of the balls in our government? and is that damage irreversible? in government? and is that damage irreversible?— government? and is that damage irreversible? , :, ~ :, :, irreversible? in parts of the amazon re . ion, irreversible? in parts of the amazon region. what — irreversible? in parts of the amazon region. what we _ irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are _ irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are seeing - irreversible? in parts of the amazon region, what we are seeing now, - irreversible? in parts of the amazon | region, what we are seeing now, the amazon is a net sink for carbon, but in parts of the amazon forest now, because at the deforestation, climate change, we have a reverse of this sink as a source of carbon in the atmosphere. so the amazon region in some parts of the forest are really very close to that tipping point. this is a global alerts. we need to protect the forest and this demands local action but also global action to stop climate change. interesting you should say global action, because you have written that other countries have a big part to play, really big part in bringing them together in this summit really does help push that forward. i them together in this summit really does help push that forward. i think so. what does help push that forward. i think so- what the _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants _ does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to - does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to see - does help push that forward. i think so. what the world wants to see is. so. what the world wants to see is that there — so. what the world wants to see is that there is a collective voice in the amazon and this week's summit could _ the amazon and this week's summit could be _ the amazon and this week's summit could be the right platform for that — could be the right platform for that. also the amazon countries cannot— that. also the amazon countries cannot fix — that. also the amazon countries cannot fix this issue by themselves. for starters. — cannot fix this issue by themselves. for starters, they need international financing. the president of columbia spoke about debts _ president of columbia spoke about debts for— president of columbia spoke about debts for climate action and forest conservation already today because what we _ conservation already today because what we see in the depths of the amazon— what we see in the depths of the amazon is— what we see in the depths of the amazon is that profits are way higher— amazon is that profits are way higher than the state budgets to combat — higher than the state budgets to combat that. so he needs to be coherent— combat that. so he needs to be coherent to help the amazon countries _ coherent to help the amazon countries and it's important to bear in mind _ countries and it's important to bear in mind that — countries and it's important to bear in mind that coming from areas are in mind that coming from areas are in high— in mind that coming from areas are in high demand in other continents, and i_ in high demand in other continents, and i think— in high demand in other continents, and i think that especially the united — and i think that especially the united states and europe, they can be proactive action to actually help clean _ be proactive action to actually help clean up _ be proactive action to actually help clean up the supply chain and work on traceability of these commodities. ~ : , :, commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is — commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a — commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a responsibility, - commodities. mercedes, do you agree that there is a responsibility, if- that there is a responsibility, if you like, a role to be paid by countries that are using what is taken from the amazon and what companies are selling, commodities, as was put. it’s companies are selling, commodities, aswas ut. h :, :, companies are selling, commodities, as was ut. h :, :, ~ as was put. it's important to think that there is _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no single _ as was put. it's important to think that there is no single nor- as was put. it's important to think that there is no single nor simple | that there is no single nor simple solution for the case, but time matters. it's important also to realise the connections between the first and global supply chains. so in this case, we really need to, as mentioned before, how we can improve traceability and make this more transparent so that people can really decide on what they buy or not depending on the environmental impact that it has in the region. i impact that it has in the region. i completely agree, and i think there are initiatives already which will be discussed today, for example, we heard _ be discussed today, for example, we heard from _ be discussed today, for example, we heard from the president speaking about— heard from the president speaking about amazonian nato, which is definitely— about amazonian nato, which is definitely a comment that insinuates that they— definitely a comment that insinuates that they are all one regional corporation, but they could use that assistance. — corporation, but they could use that assistance, and governments to look at themselves and their own role in amazon— at themselves and their own role in amazon deforestation and financing these _ amazon deforestation and financing these environmental crimes, because what we _ these environmental crimes, because what we see — these environmental crimes, because what we see very often is the lack of political — what we see very often is the lack of political will or capacity, governments and law enforcement teams _ governments and law enforcement teams go — governments and law enforcement teams go after the low hanging fruit. _ teams go after the low hanging fruit, which oftentimes are people living _ fruit, which oftentimes are people living in— fruit, which oftentimes are people living in the amazon which are basically— living in the amazon which are basically absorbed by these economies. these forces have cheap labour— economies. these forces have cheap labour can _ economies. these forces have cheap labour can be easily replaced commandment is necessary now is that law enforcement because after the financiers— law enforcement because after the financiers of deforestation which are living — financiers of deforestation which are living in the capitals of amazon countries _ are living in the capitals of amazon countries or— are living in the capitals of amazon countries or even abroad, so far, they— countries or even abroad, so far, they have — countries or even abroad, so far, they have relatively untouched. interesting. from international crisis group and amazon underwrote, which investigates criminal networks in the rain forest, mercedes from the university of the zodiac and it's a pleasure to have you both on the programme. thank you once again for your time. you may think you stop and thanks for having us. let's turn to the situation in portugal. it's one of the countries that experienced extreme heat and forest fires injuly. and august has seen no let up. fires, like these shown here, are raging in the centre and south of the country and monday saw the hottest temperature of the year — 46a degrees celsius — in santarem, north of the capital lisbon. there is growing concern for locals and tourists in the area. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the uk electoral commission has revealed it's been the subject of a cyber attack. the independent watchdog, says "hostile actors" have been able to access electoral registers and it's warned the public to be "vigilant for unauthorised use or release of their personal data." five people, including a ito—year—old british national, have died in violent protests related to the taxi strike in cape town. this comes after a week—long strike was called by the south african national taxi council. the strike was in response to what the drivers called "heavy—handed tactics" by law enforcement authorities. exa m exam result they in scotland. ——exam result day in scotland. the pass rate for exams in scotland has fallen — but remains higher than before the covid pandemic. more than 144,000 young people across scotland have been receiving their grades for national its and ss, highers and advanced highers. the proportion of pupils awarded an a, b or c at higher has fallen from 78.9% in 2022 to 77.1% this year. you're live with bbc news. a charity representing asylum seekers who were due to be moved onto a barge in dorset is claiming that four more transfers have been cancelled. careltcalais claim it's due to the threat of legal action. the government has denied any cancellations onto the bibby stockholm have taken place. it comes after 15 men spent their first night on on the barge. more are expected to board the bibby stockholm later in the week. joining me now isjoe twyman, cofounder of deltapoll. always good to have you on the programme, because when we talk to we get a good idea of what people are really thinking about government policy and what is happening right now. this has been hugely controversial move by the government, but it has felt the pressure from people in this country to make good on its promise of stopping the boats, so to speak to him of the boats crossing the channel from france. tell me what people have been telling you about what they think about what the government is doing. it’s what they think about what the government is doing.— government is doing. it's an extraordinarily _ government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind - government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind of - government is doing. it's an extraordinarily kind of kid i government is doing. it's an - extraordinarily kind of kid subject with many different facets, and as a result, public opinion is rather mixed. it's certainly a mixed picture when you look at the data. when you ask the british public how well the government is doing when it comes to dealing with the issue of small boats, nearly half of people think that they are doing badly, on the around the third of people think they are doing well. but when it comes to specific policies, such as the barge down in dorset or indeed the barge down in dorset or indeed theissue the barge down in dorset or indeed the issue of flights to rwanda, you consistently see at least when the issues are announced that around about half of the people support them and around about a third of people oppose with the rest saying they don't know. that is linked to they don't know. that is linked to the fact that overall, when you look at immigration and asylum as an issue, you find that more than half of people in this country consistently believe that the number of people who come here as immigrants should be reduced. that is a long—standing theme, and although the figures have fallen since bragg set, it remains a strong theme in british public opinion. even then, it's even more complicated than that. if you are talking about people seeking asylum as a result of the war in ukraine, particularly women and children, there is far greater support of that, similarly for highly skilled immigrants or indeed people to fail labour shortages. immigrants or indeed people to fail labourshortages. support immigrants or indeed people to fail labour shortages. support is fair, but at the same time certain groups of asylum—seekers are seen as not as popular, so they tend to have far less support for them coming here. so a very mixed picture. haifa less support for them coming here. so a very mixed picture.— so a very mixed picture. how much su ort is so a very mixed picture. how much support is therefore _ so a very mixed picture. how much support is therefore government i support is therefore government policies like, for example, sending illegal immigrants to rwanda or are putting asylum—seekers on a barge while their application is being processed. tt while their application is being processed-— while their application is being rocessed. , processed. if you ask people 'ust when those fl processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind i processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind ofi processed. if you ask people 'ust when those kind of policies h processed. if you ask people just when those kind of policies are l when those kind of policies are announced, about half the people say that they support them around about a third oppose, and the rest say they don't know. that's pretty consistent. it really doesn't depend what the issue is very much because the average person in the street isn't paying too much attention to the detail. but as time goes on in those policies become open to more and more scrutiny, we do often see a narrowing and indeed a change of the position. ultimately, it is worth remembering that this remains a relatively small issue compared to particularly the economy. he asked the british people what are the most important issues facing them in theirfamily, only10% important issues facing them in theirfamily, only 10% of important issues facing them in their family, only 10% of people place immigration and asylum in their top three. that is a long way behind the 67% to pace the cost of living in their top three. it's also behind the nhs and the economy in general. when you ask 0k, what about the most important issue facing the country as a whole, you find that rises to just under a quarter of people saying immigration and asylum. again, still well short of the two thirds to say cost of living. it is true that amongst conservative voters in 2019, that figure does rise to over a third, 37%, but, again that is not enough to get it above fourth place on the list of priorities. so for a small group, it is important, and in some cases very important. those people are more likely to be conservatives. compared to the economy, it is just not in the same league. compared to the economy, it is 'ust not in the same league. interesting, as alwa s, not in the same league. interesting, as always. great _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk _ not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk to. - not in the same league. interesting, as always, great to talk to. thank. as always, great to talk to. thank you very much indeed. former president donald trump is holding a rally in windham, new hampshire today. it's his first campaign rally since facing a third criminal indictment last week, when he was charged with four counts for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. the former president continues to lead in the polls among republicans, maintaining a healthy lead over governor ron desantis. during the rally mr trump defended himself and took the opportunity to criticise president biden's relationship with china. and it is a national tragedy that joe biden, cricketjoe, he is more interested in where is the money coming from, to him. he is interested in him. help at all of these things at the 30 corporations end that this come outcome of the money flowing in, everybody getting money, coming infrom money flowing in, everybody getting money, coming in from china. let's speak to dr lauren wright — lecturer in politics and public affairs at princeton university. good to talk to. even listening to a little bit of what former president trump has been saying. the formula pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? tt pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? :, , :, , :, , pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? ,, pretty much stays the same, doesn't it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true _ it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true rally - it? it really does and this is a tried-and-true rally speech l it? it really does and this is a l tried-and-true rally speech for it? it really does and this is a - tried-and-true rally speech for him. tried—and—true rally speech for him. the structure is atypical for a term speech, it is sort of rambling and conversational. it is very entertaining with the jabs at chris christie. he said don't bother him, he is busy eating. i won't call him a fat pig, were not allowed to post and he went in on ron desantis, that nickname seems to be sticking around attacking his opponents, and now he is getting into some of the january six and "i really won georgia and it was a perfect phone, the secretary of state." so it has really spanned the full menu if you will if the term strategy. —— ron desanctimonious. term strategy. -- ron desanctimonious. , , , :, desanctimonious. despite all the indictments. _ desanctimonious. despite all the indictments, despite _ desanctimonious. despite all the indictments, despite other - desanctimonious. despite all the | indictments, despite other recent events, nothing has really changed in that strategy. i events, nothing has really changed in that strategy.— in that strategy. i think that is an accurate characterisation - in that strategy. i think that is an accurate characterisation that. accurate characterisation that nothing has changed. polling, national polls of the contenders in 2024 have been remarkably stable since april now across all of these different indictments. trump has beenin different indictments. trump has been in the 505, and he knows that, that's probably why he is skipping the debate later this month, that is a pretty smart strategy, because he is so far ahead. and part of the speech was bragging about those polls, so and how far ahead he is. he sort of taking a victory lap already and transition to attacking biden as if he's already in a general election environment. let’s general election environment. let's talk a little bit — general election environment. let's talk a little bit about _ general election environment. let's talk a little bit about public perception, because what's donald trump is saying to people is one thing, what people are actually hearing is quite another. has that changed because of recent events? 50 changed because of recent events? sr we are still too early from the election for the voters who matter most in the general moderates, people who just instantly pay attention to politics, to really be watching these sorts of events closely. the hard—core supporters and primary voters are many times and primary voters are many times and so each candidate is sort of perfecting their message at this point and frankly, desantis is very far behind, so unless the structural factors changed tremendously not in trump's favour, he is so far sailing through this primary with all the falsehoods that he is spouting and all of the theories about himself. doctor, let's take a look at ron desantis. because we heard he sacked his campaign manager, so he really is struggling. his campaign manager, so he really is struggling-— is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake _ is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake things - is struggling. yes, and that is smart to shake things up - is struggling. yes, and that is| smart to shake things up when is struggling. yes, and that is - smart to shake things up when they are not going well, certainly, but some of this, ron desantis doesn't have too much control over. even when he was the darling of the republican party, when he won reelection in a landslide back in november, he was still a good ten points behind trump. so even if he stayed on the straight and narrow there, he would be struggling, but it is very hard to close the gap that he has created, and some of that he has created, and some of thatis that he has created, and some of that is just because trump, as i read about in my most recent book, is a celebrity, he's the former president, he has show business skill set and with a huge stage, again, of ten candidates, 11 candidates, it is very difficult for them to distinguish themselves from one another when trump is on the stage. it is very much a replay of 2016, and it is hard for her, i'm sure, donors and activists to watch it unfold since trump has a pretty bad shot in a national election at least according to current numbers. 0k, doctor learn right from princeton university, always good to talk to. thank you very much. before we go — some lovely pictures to show you — a black bear — blamed for a string of break—ins in california — has been captured after more than a year on the run. the animal — weighing 35 stone — is believed to have forced her way into more than 20 homes in the lake tahoe area, to steal food. the bear — nicknamed hank the tank — will be moved to a new home, 12 hundred miles away, at a sanctuary in colorado. i wonder if they will put them on a diet. back in a few minutes. goodbye. hello there. there have certainly been winners and losers with this tuesday's forecast. an absolutely glorious day. across much of scotland, northern ireland and northern england. there were a few sharp showers in the northeast, but look at the western isles, beautiful from earlier on, slightly different story further south across england and wales in particular. there was quite a lot of low cloud and outbreaks of drizzly rain. it was misty as well through the day, and that is going to continue to drift its way steadily eastwards over the next few hours. the showers fading in scotland. we keep some clearer skies through the night. we keep quite a lot of low clouds down to the southwest. but temperatures will hold up perhaps into the mid—teens by first thing tomorrow morning. the reason being, we're starting to tap into some warmer air now as an area of high pressure is set to build. so this high pressure will move in from the southwest. yes, we've got this week weather front, which will always introduce the risk of more cloud and still some murky conditions to northern ireland, perhaps across west facing coasts of wales, south west england. again, misty, maybe a little bit drizzly from time to time. so further north and east, that's where we'll see the best of the sunshine. but temperatures generally will be a few degrees up on where we've seen them just recently, highs into the low 20s, but some of us could see temperatures into the mid 20s as the mid 70s. we'll tap into some further heat from spain as we move into thursday. thursday looks likely to be the warmest day of the week and the sunniest today quite widely across the country. it's not going to last, but those temperatures, mid 20s, possibly as high as 27 degrees. so that's 80 fahrenheit. but as we move out of thursday into friday, this cold front will start to push in. it's tied into this area of low pressure which is sitting to the far northwest. the winds will strengthen and it will bring outbreaks of rain, some of it heavy as it moves its way across northern england and scotland. it turns quite showery in nature through central and southern parts of england and wales, and ahead of it, if we maintain some early morning sunshine, it'll still be quite warm here, but noticeably fresher behind. and then as we head into the weekend, unfortunately that cooler, fresher showers regime is set to continue, with temperatures back into the low 20s as a daytime maximum. that's it. take care. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. uk retailers are ramping up promotions to win shoppers back, afterjuly�*s wet weather hit business — as shoppers held back from updating their summer wardrobes. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's tolson. hello from the bbc sport centre. colombia are through to the women's world cup quarter—finals for the first time. they beat jamaica 1—0 and will now face england on saturday. catalina usme's goal in the second half in melbourne was enough to set up a clash with the european champions. they become just the second south american nation to ever reach the quarter—finals of the world cup. forjamaica though, their impressive world cup comes to an end. for us, we are coming in with no games. i feel very happy for the players that they could perform at this

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