Only added to his lustre among Party Members and in the National Poll he is now level pegging withjoe biden. So what will it take for the anti trump republicans to turn this around . The first Republican Debate is in milwaukee later this month. Is there any candidate that could pose a late, and determined challenge . I look at the field and dont see it, but theres a growing degree within the trump camp that they have this in the back that bag. They believe the events of yesterday have pretty much sealed it. Tim . Pretty much sealed it. Tim . Know, i wouldnt bet pretty much sealed it. Tim . Know, i wouldnt bet against pretty much sealed it. Tim . Know, i wouldnt bet against either pretty much sealed it. Tim . Know, i wouldnt bet against either trump. Pretty much sealed it. Tim . Know, i| wouldnt bet against either trump or biden getting their nominations, and i cant really think of a higher Risk Domination by either of the two parties then the ones they are currently pursuing. You just rehearsed all the reasons why trump couldnt be such a high risk candidate, hell be completely engrossed in legal cases. And we know that hes quite good at talking about himself at the best of times, will be he persuasive if hes talking about his legal cases . And on the other side, we have an increase legally and obviously frail president. If i was a democrat i would be very worried that frankly, joe biden is only one fall away from calamity, frankly, and god for bid that resolves in serious impairment for him. But both parties could have another option there was a debate announced yesterday that the governor of california, gavin newsom, and that democrat a democrat, and the governor of florida, ron desantis, will have a debate together on fox news two politicians in the peak of their lives, acceptable to the mainstream traditions of both of their parties. They could be the candidates for their parties, and it seems such a shame that the worlds most important country, most important democracy in the world is still obsessed with these two men who really dont represent the best of their parties or traditions. I really dont represent the best of their parties or traditions. Their parties or traditions. I know we are 18 months their parties or traditions. I know we are 18 months away their parties or traditions. I know we are 18 months away from their parties or traditions. I know we are 18 months away from the | we are 18 months away from the election, but theres not long to change the dynamics of this at least on the republican side. We have debate, then the caucus, the new hampshire. Do you see a candidate where other candidates pulling at 12 think where other candidates pulling at 1 2 think they have to coalesce i 2 think they have to coalesce around one person to take on trump . Donald trump has won this thing, he sounded up. Donald trump has won this thing, he sounded up, and the only question is, how sounded up, and the only question is, how much more of a Chip Away Effort is, how much more of a Chip Away Effort can is, how much more of a Chip Away Effort can these republican candidates make to delegitimize him for the candidates make to delegitimize him for the modern middle of the country that is for the modern middle of the country that is really up for grabs and will be a determining factor in this election be a determining factor in this election. Moderate middle. Iwant to go election. Moderate middle. Iwant to go back election. Moderate middle. Iwant to go back to election. Moderate middle. Iwant to go back to Kevin Mccarthy and what to go back to Kevin Mccarthy and what he to go back to Kevin Mccarthy and what he was doing he wasnt. Hillary what he was doing he wasnt. Hillary clinton never incited an insurrection against donald trump, she conceded the day after she lost. The same she conceded the day after she lost. The same thing for al gore to george bush the same thing for al gore to george bush thats the same thing for al gore to george bush. Thats not what donald trump did. Bush. Thats not what donald trump the so bush. Thats not what donald trump the so what bush. Thats not what donald trump did. So what we see now is that the republican did. So what we see now is that the Republican Base is not only coalescing around trump, but it is scared coalescing around trump, but it is scared to coalescing around trump, but it is scared to death out of all republican politicians, they are running republican politicians, they are running for their lives because kevin running for their lives because Kevin Mccarthy now should know better Kevin Mccarthy now should know better Kevin Mccarthy now should know better he was in the capitol when it was better he was in the capitol when it was being better he was in the capitol when it was being attacked, and hes now essentially it was being attacked, and hes now essentially giving the Permission Slip to essentially giving the Permission Slip to donald trump to continue to lie slip to donald trump to continue to tie attout slip to donald trump to continue to lie about the 2020 election. And one other lie about the 2020 election. And one other thing lie about the 2020 election. And one other thing on gavin newsom and ron desantis. Other thing on gavin newsom and ron desantis. I other thing on gavin newsom and ron desantis, i think you have a wipe away desantis, i think you have a wipe away roh desantis, i think you have a wipe away ron desantis, ron desantis is failing away ron desantis, ron desantis is failing against donald trump but gavin failing against donald trump but gavin newsom strongly supportsjoe Biden Gavin Newsom strongly Supportsjoe Biden to gavin newsom strongly Supportsjoe Biden to be the nominee. Gavin newsom strongly supports joe biden to be the nominee. Interesting ou said biden to be the nominee. Interesting you said the biden to be the nominee. Interesting you said the republicans biden to be the nominee. Interesting you said the republicans in biden to be the nominee. Interesting you said the republicans in the you said the republicans in the house are fighting for their lives, we have adam lanza on the programme last night and said the stakes for donald trump could not be higher, it is the white house or the jailhouse. I kind of agreement disagree with that. I think i kind of agreement disagree with that. Ithink if i kind of agreement disagree with that. I think if ron desantis i agree withjoe, hes not running a Brilliant Campaign but if it was ron desantis orjoe biden, ron desantis would win easily because ron desantis is supported by most republicans and he would be a vibrant, young candidate who is transformed florida into one of the Fastest Growing states in america, and hed be against a frail, failing incumbent democrat. And i think someone else has said, these are not my words, but donald trump can lose the presidency he can win it, but he can definitely will lose it, whereas i think Ron Desantiss chances of beating joe biden are incredibly high. And if ron desantis says hell pardon trump because, rightfully or wrongfully, these are trumped up charges, he wont better do it because he is not capable of self denial. In a way, that would be trumps best course, to allow someone like desantis to come through. Someone like desantis to come throu~h. , v someone like desantis to come throu~h. H , someone like desantis to come throu~h. � ,. , someone like desantis to come throuuh. � ,. , through. Thats missing two things, likability and through. Thats missing two things, likability and charisma, through. Thats missing two things, likability and charisma, therefore i likability and charisma, therefore ron desantis will get the nomination. Your back id be happy to try nomination. Your back id be happy to try if nomination. Your back id be happy to try if i nomination. Your back id be happy to try if i was nomination. Your back id be happy to try if i was a republican. I to try if i was a republican. Thinkjoel to try if i was a republican. I thinkjoel might be right, its certainly something people have picked up on. Well pick up on why joe biden might be in danger later the programming as i knowjoe wants to discuss the economy, but well come to that. The Surface Ocean temperature around the florida keys last week soared to 38 celsius. The temperatures were measured by a series of buoy located in the waters off manatee bay, in the Everglades National park. That level of heat is about the same temperature as a hot tub. Normally around this time of year it would be aroud 23 31 celsius. And today we got another record, the global average for the oceans, is higher than its ever been 21 celsius in august, which is unusual. If you look at this chart, it shows the average Ocean Temperatures since 1979. The red line, this years data. The grey lines show previous years. And you will see it is an upward curve it is getting ever warmer, but those previous peaks were in march, at the end of the summer in the southern hemishphere. And the experts say they are worried. The oceans are vital to help regulate our climate, and the evaporation you have the more moisture you have in the air, which can turbo charge some of the worlds Weather Patterns. My colleague in dc, carl nasman, joins me now. Carl was a Climate Change presenter at another network and hes gone the extra mile for us, because can i say thats the best backdrop ive seen tonight. A crazy painting that looks like dried up mud flaps, with reads in it, and a threatening dark sky. Its fantastic tell me, why is a warming sea particularly dangerous for a state like florida . It couldnt be any more atmospheric where im in the us to talk about these record temperatures. Let me put this into perspective because its difficult to understand the North Atlantic is where we seeing a lot of this warming. The water around the uk and ireland is about 45 c around the uk and ireland is about 11 5 c above normal, which may not seem like a lot but imagine the amount of energy it takes to raise the entire Atlantic Ocean by even a fraction of a degree. Thats what we are talking about here, these extreme temperatures. Hot tub temperatures around the florida keys, but scientists are very worried about the fate of the coral reefs there, calling this their broadest and most worrying Bleaching Eventin broadest and most worrying Bleaching Event in the history of the state. We are already seeing corals die off, which play an important part in wildlife but also there to help protect us against storm surges. Oceans are critically important in the fight against Global Warming as well, they are a very effective carbon sink, they soak up that extra c02 that carbon sink, they soak up that extra co2 that humans released by burning fossil fuels, co2 that humans released by burning fossilfuels, in fact co2 that humans released by burning fossil fuels, in fact 90 of the extra heat that humans because it goes straight into the ocean. The problem is warmer water, warmer oceans are not effective in soaking up oceans are not effective in soaking up co2 and heat. It becomes a dreaded Feedback Loop that scientists are warning about. Br; dreaded Feedback Loop that scientists are warning about. By the olitics of scientists are warning about. By the politics of this. Scientists are warning about. By the politics of this, if scientists are warning about. By the politics of this, if we scientists are warning about. By the politics of this, if we have scientists are warning about. By the politics of this, if we have more politics of this, if we have more moisture in the air, it supercharges weather systems. Moisture in the air, it supercharges weathersystems. If moisture in the air, it supercharges weather systems. If the Hurricane Seasonis weather systems. If the Hurricane Season is supercharged, itll blow florida wait, weve already seen some record hurricanes in recent years, theres been a super green algae because of the warm temperatures yet the governor is a republican, and the republicans dont have a record on fighting Climate Change. I dont have a record on fighting Climate Change. Climate change. I think its difficult to Climate Change. I think its difficult to explain Climate Change. I think its difficult to explain to Climate Change. I think its i difficult to explain to people Climate Change. I think its difficult to explain to people that arent here in the usjust difficult to explain to people that arent here in the us just how partisan and political Climate Change action is here. Ron desantis was asked recently in iowa about floridas preparedness for flooding and extreme storms and hurricanes, and extreme storms and hurricanes, and he said, the state is prepared, we deal with us all the time, but the reality is and what Scientists Say is its already hitting florida. You see these Daytime Flooding Events where there is no rain, but in miami the sea rises rising so high that there is flooding in the streets. The ron desantis and other leaders in the Republican Party have been fighting against Climate Change, legislation, the senate has been deadlocked on this kind of legislation, joe biden, a democrat, has passed the Inflation Reduction Act which pumped a record amount of money towards green technology, towards solar panels and wind energy trying to make the electric grid here in the United States more green. With the problem is that for any kind of widespread and sweeping demonstration, dutch legislation, you need republicans and democrats to Work Together and they arent doing that. To Work Together and they arent doinu that. To Work Together and they arent doing that to Work Together and they arent doinu that. ,. , i. ,. Doing that. Tim, how do you square on that doing that. Tim, how do you square on that all doing that. Tim, how do you square on that all that doing that. Tim, how do you square on that all that and doing that. Tim, how do you square on that all that and the doing that. Tim, how do you square on that all that and the records i on that all that and the records being broken in recent weeks, and the terrible implications we are being told of whats happening, with Signing Hundreds of new contracts for oil and gas . Signing hundreds of new contracts for oiland gas . How Signing Hundreds of new contracts for oil and gas . How does that square with the urgency people are calling for . Square with the urgency people are callin for . ~ calling for . Well, even with net zero targets. Calling for . Well, even with net zero targets, within calling for . Well, even with net zero targets, within those calling for . Well, even with net zero targets, within those net l calling for . Well, even with net. Zero targets, within those net zero targets, zero targets, within those net zero targets, there is still an expectation that countries like britain, expectation that countries like britain, although they would also have invested much more in renewable capacities. Have invested much more in renewable capacities, will still be using oil and gas capacities, will still be using oil and gas to capacities, will still be using oil and gas to some extent. So i think what and gas to some extent. So i think what rishi and gas to some extent. So i think what rishi sunak is arguing is that if we are what rishi sunak is arguing is that if we are still to use some oil and gas, if we are still to use some oil and gas, lets if we are still to use some oil and gas, lets ensure that some of that is domestically produced, rather than is domestically produced, rather than importing it from saudi arabia or russia, than importing it from saudi arabia or russia, or other debt spotted regimes or russia, or other debt spotted regimes which could at any moment turn off regimes which could at any moment turn off the regimes which could at any moment turn off the tap or reduce the quantity of production and therefore increase quantity of production and therefore increase the price. So i dont think its either increase the price. So i dont think its either or increase the price. So i dont think its either or increase the price. So i dont think its either or do we invest in renewables its either or do we invest in renewables or oil and gas . We will need renewables or oil and gas . We will need some renewables or oil and gas . We will need some capacity, there are some products need some capacity, there are some products including iron and steel which products including iron and steel which the products including iron and steel which the worlds economy will still need, which the worlds economy will still need. That which the worlds economy will still need, that we still will need to burn need, that we still