Former President Trump was then read his rights he entered a not guilty plea. The next hearing set for the morning of august 28th. These are the four charges donald trump is facing in this case. Conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against the rights of citizens. The indictment also mentioned six Co Conspirators, who have not been charged. Mr trump has now left washington on his private plane. Before boarding, he made a brief statement. This is a very sad day for america. And it was also very sad driving through washington, dc and seeing the filth and the decay and all of the broken buildings and walls and the graffiti. This is not the place that i left. Its a very sad thing to see it. When you look at whats happening, this is a persecution of a political opponent. This was never supposed to happen in america. This is the persecution of the person thats leading by very, very substantial numbers in the republican primary, and leading biden by a lot. So if you cant beat him, you persecute him or you prosecute him. We cant let this happen in america. Thank you very much. Live to outside the courthouse now, with carl nasman. You have been there at the courthouse or a day. Walk us through what you have seen unfolding. Through what you have seen unfolding through what you have seen unfoldinu. ~. Unfolding. All day. We are onl a unfolding. All day. We are only a few unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred feet unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred feet from the Capitol Building where the events of january sixth took place. The courthouse behind me has actually seen dozens of january sixth cases, various defendants having trials there, so this is certainly a symbolic location for todays arraignment. Former President Donald Trump arriving and entering a plea of not guilty to those four criminal charges stemming from his alleged attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election and the events leading up to the insurrection on january sixth. According to reporters who were in the courthouse, donald trump himself was calm and fairly quiet during these proceedings, as he heard the charges read out loud and he entered his plea. He had his three lawyers there with him, the special Counseljack Smith was also in the courtroom, Satjust A Row behind the former president. It was a quick hearing, only about 30 minutes. And then the former president was on his way back to the airport, hes already back home in newjersey. This is a very symbolic day, a former president facing criminal charges in the nations capital. This is the third arraignment now for donald trump, and these events, these sequences of timings and procedures that we see happening are beginning to almost feel normal. This is not the first time we have seen this take place, and certainly not the first time donald trump has gone through an arraignment. Has gone through an arraiunment. ,. ,. , arraignment. Thanks a lot for that. Live now to tim heaphy, who served as the top investigator for the special House Committee that scrutinised the january 6th riots. You are very familiar with the charges laid out in this indictment, leading the investigation into january sixth. How strong a case does jack smith make in the indictment in your opinion . The indictment indictment in your opinion . Tue indictment reads indictment in your opinion . Tte indictment reads very much like the select committees report, and much of the information contained in the indictment was presented at the select Committee Hearings last summer. We reached a point, based on that evidence, of making criminal referrals, specifically the same two criminal statutes, two of the three that jack smith has used to charge. The case has only got stronger since then Special Counsel have some tools that we didnt have. He can immediately push through Privilege Assertions and get a judge to rule on them, he has used that to get Vice President pence, some additional testimony from him and others, so the case has got stronger since we concluded our work, and we had already concluded there was evidence of criminal conduct. T concluded there was evidence of criminal conduct. Criminal conduct. I want to talk about criminal conduct. I want to talk about the criminal conduct. I want to talk about the defence, i criminal conduct. I want to l talk about the defence, one criminal conduct. I want to talk about the defence, one of the arguments on the Trump Legal Team will be that the president , former president was acting on advice that he sought on his lawyers, that essentially he was receiving legal counsel. Will that stand up legal counsel. Will that stand up in court . T legal counsel. Will that stand un in court . Legal counsel. Will that stand up in court . Up in court . I think the special up in court . I think the Special Counsel up in court . I think the Special Counsel has up in court . I think the i Special Counsel has tried already very hard to anticipate and rebut that defence. Its simply not reasonable to rely on baseless advice, particularly when so many others are telling you one thing, you cantjust shop around for somebody to tell you the other thing and say, oh, i believe him because he told me it was true. So i think the indictment suggests trump was told repeatedly that there was no evidence of systemic voter fraud, and the Vice President did not have the authority to unilaterally reject electors. Even though some others told him there was voter fraud, and that the Vice President did have that authority, that was unreasonable advice because it wasnt based on fact or law. So i dont think that advice will stand up very well when this case comes up. T stand up very well when this case comes up. Stand up very well when this case comes up. I want to ask ou case comes up. I want to ask you this, case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, do case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, do you | you this, conversely, do you think there is the potential that some of trumps former lawyers could end up providing more information to the prosecutors . We have got six Co Conspirators who havent been. They have been mentioned but they havent been charged. Mentioned but they havent been charued. ,. , , charged. Yes, absolutely. The name of the charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in any charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in any kind| charged. Yes, absolutely. The l Name Of The Game in any kind of conspiracy investigation or prosecution is to get information from people inside the conspiracy. All six of those Co Conspirators, who are not named but fairly obvious who they are, the lawyers that provided the president the bad advice. They have personal exposure which creates a very strong incentive on them essentially to cut a deal, to provide information, treat full information to the Special Counsel in exchange for immunity or leniency if they plead guilty. I would not be surprised if those discussions are already under way and it leads to additional evidence for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, because for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, because the indictment is 45 pages long. Your report was over 800 pages. Ultimately, do you think that suggests there is something jack smith is holding back . 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In light of everything we have seen today, where do you think this leaves the 2024 election . I dont know. I am a lawyer, an investigator, not a political prognosticator. All i know is the fact a very serious, the evidence is very strong. Hopefully that is going to make a huge difference when people go to the polls in 2024. Go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us attorney go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us attorney who go to the polls in 2024. Tim, l former us attorney who served as the top investigator for the special House Committee that scrutinised the january sixth riots, thank you so much will be in with us on bbc news. Thanks for having me. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Bbc news, bringing you different stories from across the uk. People believe that just because people believe thatjust because you are from a bad background, youre not going to achieve much. But i believe this project is helping. Tm achieve much. 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For more stories, go to the bbc news | stories, go to the bbc news website. Youre live with bbc news. In the courtroom earlier, former President Donald Trump was told not to communicate about the facts of the case by the judge. About the facts of the case by thejudge. She won him about the facts of the case by the judge. She won him failure to comply would result in an Arrest Warrant and Contempt Of Court charges. She warned him. Prosecutors said the hearing would benefit from a speedy trial. I spoke to California Democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren, who sat on the congressional committe that investigated the Riots Onjanuary 6th about her thoughts concerning former President Donald Trumps third arraignment. I want to begin by getting your reaction to what youve seen today. Reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ,. , reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ~. , reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ~. , � , today. Well, you know, its alwa s today. Well, you know, its always a today. 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Of course we know he never actually sat down with the january sixth committee, but what kind of information do you Thinkjack Smith is now in possession of, because of those notes . Well, i would think because of those notes . Well, i would think substantial would think substantial information. For example, one of the things he recited in the indictment was the ex president trying to talk p into slowing the votes out. He said, you are too honest. Vice president pence into throwing out the votes. That tells me trump was dishonest and was failing in getting his Vice President to join him in that dishonesty. There was a lot of interaction between their then president and his Vice President , where the then president was trying to bully t